Mr Biscuits Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 Ah yes. The 'England Band'..... As welcome to my ears as a vuvuzela. I'm glad I'm not alone in wanting them gone. They used to be great and really added to the atmosphere, now they are just an orchestra version of TWTCB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 Ah yes. The 'England Band'..... As welcome to my ears as a vuvuzela. I'm glad I'm not alone in wanting them gone. They used to be great and really added to the atmosphere, now they are just an orchestra version of TWTCB I actually didn't mind the vuvuzelas as a one-off tournament gimmick, the England band on the other hand... it's like being forced to sit through a school piano recital for a niece you don't even like. Go on, which of your three songs are you going to play this time? The Great Escape, GSTQ or Rule Britannia? Oh, you've learned how to play Achy Breaky Heart (badly out of time and tune) good for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Biscuits Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 I always believed the point of a band was to add to the atmosphere. All I see now is 11 players on the pitch occasionally putting in some nice play, a band not exactly raising hell and a dwindling number of supporters standing there, depressed with what they are seeing (and have paid for) The whole thing needs to stop, have a clear out and start again. It'll never happen though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 23 May, 2016 Author Share Posted 23 May, 2016 the band is hideous. been going for way too many years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkboy Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 Ah yes. The 'England Band'..... As welcome to my ears as a vuvuzela. I'm glad I'm not alone in wanting them gone. They used to be great and really added to the atmosphere, now they are just an orchestra version of TWTCB The Brazilians have samba and batucada, but we have an embarrassing jingoistic dirge. To think of the incredible music that has come out of this country and that's the sh*t we serve up. Ban 'em. On a more controversial note I'd like to change the national anthem too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Biscuits Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 It would be ok if they changed things, kept it a bit fresh. But to hear the same old tune being slaughtered while the team put in yet another lacklustre performance is very dull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Biscuits Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 The Brazilians have samba and batucada, but we have an embarrassing jingoistic dirge. To think of the incredible music that has come out of this country and that's the sh*t we serve up. Ban 'em. On a more controversial note I'd like to change the national anthem too. Actually I would too - to David Bowie's Heros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkboy Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 Actually I would too - to David Bowie's Heros. Now that. Would be brilliant.:thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 The Brazilians have samba and batucada, but we have an embarrassing jingoistic dirge. To think of the incredible music that has come out of this country and that's the sh*t we serve up. Ban 'em. On a more controversial note I'd like to change the national anthem too. I've been banging that drum for years, GSTQ is awful. Both in terms of the tune, which is dull, flat and uninspiring, and the lyrics, which are outdated and out of touch to British society. 'I Vow to Thee My Country' would be my preference, 'Jerusalem' is another good shout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 I'm surprised England fans haven't adapted "Oh when the Saints" somehow. Maybe "Oh when the Lions, go roaring in" or something. Unless they have... My attention to England waned a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkboy Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 I've been banging that drum for years, GSTQ is awful. Both in terms of the tune, which is dull, flat and uninspiring, and the lyrics, which are outdated and out of touch to British society. 'I Vow to Thee My Country' would be my preference, 'Jerusalem' is another good shout. Phew. I've been saying it for years too. I personally have no axe to grind with monarchy or religion but a lot of people do, and they are immediately disconnected from their own anthem. On top of that I feel we should be singing about our country and ourselves. As you say, it's flat and uninspiring. The Scots and Welsh are able to really get emotional and passionate with their anthems, shed a tear in fact. Ours is just, well, sorry your majesty, but it's just meh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 JWP scored from the spot vs Guinea. When will he score from open play is the question... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 Roys first choice will be.... Hart Rose Smalling Cahill Walker Wilshere, Henderson, Milner,Stirling Rooney Sturridge Absolute nonsense, I think you'll see Dier, Kane, Alli and possibly Vardy in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 I always believed the point of a band was to add to the atmosphere. All I see now is 11 players on the pitch occasionally putting in some nice play, a band not exactly raising hell and a dwindling number of supporters standing there, depressed with what they are seeing (and have paid for) The whole thing needs to stop, have a clear out and start again. It'll never happen though. I think the dwindling number of supporters has a lot to do with the f-ing ridiculous kick off times we now have. I remember going to a few games at 3pm on a Saturday which also gave people outside London the chance to go up and make a day of it. Now it's all mid-week or in the evening meaning you have to book time off work and/or a hotel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Biscuits Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 Yep, the Gerrard thing was ridiculous. His influence came largely from energy and power, covering every bit of the pitch. His weakness was always positional discipline and why when in a midfield 2 his teams were often overrun. He was nothing like Pirlo and never had the tools to do it. Yet if you say these things people think you're saying they're rubbish and get defensive. Same with Rooney now. He's a good striker, just not as good right now as Kane, Vardy or Sturridge. In the no 10 role we have Alli playing very well and surely Barkley close behind him. Rooney should have been dropped after South Africa along with the rest of the so called 'golden generation'. They had their chance and it was never going to happen. It really grates on me that he's got that record because he does not deserve it (Just feels like he got an award for attendance) He used to be great and still shows flashes of brilliance but that's long gone now. There are other, young hungry strikers coming up and they need fame time at international level. All Rooney is doing is denying them that game time. Even if he dropped to midfield he'd just be doing the same to a midfielder. And yes my option of him will not change even if he scores the winning goal for us in the final of the Euro's. His time is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 Rooney should have been dropped after South Africa along with the rest of the so called 'golden generation'. They had their chance and it was never going to happen. It really grates on me that he's got that record because he does not deserve it (Just feels like he got an award for attendance) He used to be great and still shows flashes of brilliance but that's long gone now. There are other, young hungry strikers coming up and they need fame time at international level. All Rooney is doing is denying them that game time. Even if he dropped to midfield he'd just be doing the same to a midfielder. And yes my option of him will not change even if he scores the winning goal for us in the final of the Euro's. His time is done. Only if the final happens to be against Estonia, San Marino or Luxembourg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sea Saint Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 JWP scored from the spot vs Guinea. When will he score from open play is the question... I just got back from the game actually. JWP put in a great performance, controlled the midfield. Notable mention to Jack Stephens too who had a great game at right back. Targett also played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBizzier69 Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 Only if the final happens to be against Estonia, San Marino or Luxembourg. Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 JWP scored from the spot vs Guinea. When will he score from open play is the question... Looking forward to that moment as FF says he will give him a piggy-back as a celebration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSteve Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 I just got back from the game actually. JWP put in a great performance, controlled the midfield. Notable mention to Jack Stephens too who had a great game at right back. Targett also played. According to the BBC sport website he was subbed after 40 mins..had a great half then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 24 May, 2016 Share Posted 24 May, 2016 JWP scored from the spot vs Guinea. When will he score from open play is the question... He did against Germany in a 3-2 victory if I rightly recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sea Saint Posted 24 May, 2016 Share Posted 24 May, 2016 According to the BBC sport website he was subbed after 40 mins..had a great half then? Yep, came off at half time, these matches are 80 minutes. We were 4-1 by then with another two games coming up over the next 4 days. Rested would be my assumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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