Pamplemousse Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 I've got a load of inflatable snakes and I'm going to go down to Staplewood and protest outside. Who's with me??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfp1 Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 "Everton’s interest in appointing Ronald Koeman was considered so unlikely to tempt the Southampton manager that key figures at the club cannot recall there even being a meeting about it. The polite answer being that they would not expect to lose a player to Everton, and certainly not their manager." Can just picture Les in a vest and pants, lying on his living room floor, clutching a bottle and sobbing "we should have had a meeting". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Time for Liebherr to sell,bring in people with enough financial clour to take the Club to the next level. The alternative is stagnation and eventually falling back to pre Cortese/Markus The next level of finance is likely to be with dodgy laundered money. Do you really want to go the way of Portsmouth? Is that the Southampton Way for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themasoon Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 On a positive note, I image players such as Cedric, Reed, JWP, Tadic, and the majority of the youth squad won't be too upset if he leaves. I just hope we keep Sammy Lee and Dave Watson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Can just picture Les in a vest and pants, lying on his living room floor, clutching a bottle and sobbing "we should have had a meeting". The remains of last nights curry staining his vest. The empty metallic container proved a useful substitute for a late night bathroom visit....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Not at all will praise the board for choice. Except you said yesterday Koeman succeeded in spite of the board, so let's assume you'll do the same again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sydneysaint17 Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Everton at home first day of the season please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WealdSaint Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Still wonder why RK is doing this. Everton's 3 best players (Stones, Lukarcu & Berkley) want Champions League football and are highly likely to leave With the amount of money flying around £100M might not bye as much as people think He has picked the Dutch League pretty clean by now I think he will regret changing agent big time As for us, we get the chance early on in the close season to pick a new manager. If we take someone who is out of work then Everton will affectively have paid their first years wages for us. Also, if RK had stayed and not signed a new contract the next season could have been difficult Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Expect Stones and Barkley to stay if the owner is wanting to be ambitious. He can't have said we'll be ambitious then sell 2 of their best players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 It's clear that Koeman does and he likes what he sees. The owner has only been in since March and he's paying massive wages to the new manager, making money available and he's in talks about a new state of the art 55,000 seater stadium on the waterfront. That's real ambition being shown in what is only a few weeks in which he's been the majority shareholder. We simply can't match that or our owners aren't willing to. Reminds me of Portsmouth about 10 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Expect Stones and Barkley to stay if the owner is wanting to be ambitious. He can't have said we'll be ambitious then sell 2 of their best players. Are they their best players both have suffered from being massively over hyped as is the way with young english talent these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarrettIvo Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Yes . Exactly that . Why own a football team in the EPL if all you want to do is avoid debt ? This is why I don't believe the team when they mention ambition and Champions League . I don't believe for a second that the board really want that as they lack the attitude to fund it . Its all ******** to fool the fans Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk Good thing we missed out on CL by all of three points this season. A work of Machiavellian art by the board to provide funds and support to get almost there without actually doing it. They certainly fooled me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 But he hasn't said he would, but he will reading idiot comments like that Yes, I'm absolutely CERTAIN that he has no interest whatsoever, only to come onto this forum, read my comment and then decide to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Stones and Barkley are both on the fringe of the England side. They will want to push on to be regulars. They need European football to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3625078/Everton-set-Ronald-Koeman-new-manager-agreement-Southampton.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 I can't understand Koeman. On one hand, he wants us to demonstrate ambition by not selling our top players every Summer. A fair point that resonates with a lot of supporters beaten down over the past couple of Summers. On the other, he's going to Everton and the first thing he'll do is oversee the sales of Stones and Lukaku. But it really isn't a great job. It's an average one, with a players budget (net spend £40m) the same or maybe marginally bigger than most of the league. It can only be about wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Maybe the new Under Armour training kit is a bit snug fitting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 I wonder if it will have an impact on who leaves now? I remember a few stories of players being unhappy with some of Koeman's methods. I've lost all respect for Koeman now. Hope he fails at Everton. When MP left, he had never indicated he wanted to stay and I know for fact he met up with Levy several weeks before. This is very disappointing from Ronald, but we will move on and go again, we always have. I am aware of the clubs strategy, but Les really needs to keep quiet with Champions League talk and how well contract negotiations have been going. Sent from my D5803 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scally Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Farhad Moshiri Everton's owner, the guys got money but not enough to start throwing it all at a football club. As somebody else eluded to earlier in this thread, this could all end in tears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakkoUK Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Of course it is about wages, unfortunately football is not solely a sport and more so a business. Money talks and most players/managers will follow the higher wages, like any human would. We are greed driven creatures and Koeman owes us nothing, we were merely another job on his stepping stone to more $$$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarrettIvo Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Farhad Moshiri Everton's owner, the guys got money but not enough to start throwing it all at a football club. As somebody else eluded to earlier in this thread, this could all end in tears. That would be pleasing, but we will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 I can't understand Koeman. On one hand, he wants us to demonstrate ambition by not selling our top players every Summer. A fair point that resonates with a lot of supporters beaten down over the past couple of Summers. On the other, he's going to Everton and the first thing he'll do is oversee the sales of Stones and Lukaku. But it really isn't a great job. It's an average one, with a players budget (net spend £40m) the same or maybe marginally bigger than most of the league. It can only be about wages. No. The media claim, at least, is that it's £100m (or €100m) plus the proceeds from sales of Lukaku and Stones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 That would be pleasing, but we will see. Oh how I will laugh if it ends up like Villa or QPR. Or for real comedy value. Portsmouth, but it'd be unlikely they'd fall that far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 He's signing for Everton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 No. The media claim, at least, is that it's £100m (or €100m) plus the proceeds from sales of Lukaku and Stones. Cant see it myself. Their new investor is worth less than Ms Liebherr. Can see this one ending in tears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 How much would sacking Martinez and paying up Koeman's contract be costing Everton? £6m? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Except you said yesterday Koeman succeeded in spite of the board, so let's assume you'll do the same again. One appointment can be lucky two shows they know what their doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Cant see it myself. Their new investor is worth less than Ms Liebherr. Can see this one ending in tears. Although Everton are in a stronger starting position, this deserve the potential to be a P*mpey. Well, perhaps that's a bit too far, but Villa, yes. Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Cant see it myself. Their new investor is worth less than Ms Liebherr. Can see this one ending in tears. But his investor probably isn't. Some even say Kroenke is behind all of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananaman Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 http://www.thesportbible.com/articles/breaking-ronald-koeman-agrees-terms-with-everton-040616 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 No. The media claim, at least, is that it's £100m (or €100m) plus the proceeds from sales of Lukaku and Stones. So he might have a budget of >£150m, but who exactly is he going to buy with that money? The DM article linked to above claims that he will be 'competing for a higher class of player than at Southampton'. Competing alright, but not necessarily signing, that's the key point. They might well have the same funds to throw around as an established CL team, but they sure as sh*t ain't going to be beating them to the signatures of top class players who want to play in the CL. They might well find themselves spending the entire summer trying to make some marquee signings but failing to get a single one, meaning they will have to set their targets a bit lower - in other words, competing for the same type/class of player as us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 A pretty embarrassing move for Koeman stepping down to Everton's level, on the slide for years and only going one way. But at least his bank balance will look a lot healthier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 So he might have a budget of >£150m, but who exactly is he going to buy with that money? The DM article linked to above claims that he will be 'competing for a higher class of player than at Southampton'. Competing alright, but not necessarily signing, that's the key point. They might well have the same funds to throw around as an established CL team, but they sure as sh*t ain't going to be beating them to the signatures of top class players who want to play in the CL. They might well find themselves spending the entire summer trying to make some marquee signings but failing to get a single one, meaning they will have to set their targets a bit lower - in other words, competing for the same type/class of player as us. Their record signing cost them £28m, so it would be hard to argue that they aren't already operating (occasionally) at a much higher level in the transfer market than us. How many years before we spend close to £30m on a transfer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 (edited) Cant see it myself. Their new investor is worth less than Ms Liebherr. Can see this one ending in tears. Who knows but there's a lot of **** spouted about Moshiri on here, depicting him as some fly-by-night Arab investor. (Moshiri was educated and raised in the UK and has been on the footballing scene a long time). Likewise the last thing I'd associate Everton with is recklessness and Bill Kenwright spent 18 months vetting the guy before allowing him on board. But we'll see. Edited 4 June, 2016 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 So he might have a budget of >£150m, but who exactly is he going to buy with that money? The DM article linked to above claims that he will be 'competing for a higher class of player than at Southampton'. Competing alright, but not necessarily signing, that's the key point. They might well have the same funds to throw around as an established CL team, but they sure as sh*t ain't going to be beating them to the signatures of top class players who want to play in the CL. They might well find themselves spending the entire summer trying to make some marquee signings but failing to get a single one, meaning they will have to set their targets a bit lower - in other words, competing for the same type/class of player as us. We need to keep score of the silly bids that go on. Will it be Everton or West Ham who make the biggests cocks of themselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 I can't understand Koeman. On one hand, he wants us to demonstrate ambition by not selling our top players every Summer. A fair point that resonates with a lot of supporters beaten down over the past couple of Summers. On the other, he's going to Everton and the first thing he'll do is oversee the sales of Stones and Lukaku. But it really isn't a great job. It's an average one, with a players budget (net spend £40m) the same or maybe marginally bigger than most of the league. It can only be about wages. There is only one reason for him to go - £££ and that is it. I really thought the man was different than that but so much for integrity eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 If he wants to go/ we let him go so be it that`s how it is We will survive and probably continue to improve. We can all decide who we wish to blame, make it a poll even, but when all said and done we will get told what those in control what us to know, whether that is the actual truth of all events we will never know. Speculate away, slag off your choice of who you wish to blame but it will make zero difference.. At the end of the day we will all still be here wont we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 They should try and ensure an agreement in the compensation deal that he doesn't come back for our players Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 One thing's for sure, it'll be ****ing hilarious watching Everton struggle again next season as we're off on our European tour. Good riddance Ronald, you snake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBizzier69 Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 I would chuckle a fair bit if we sign a top, proven manager and it becomes public knowledge that we're paying him £6m a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarrettIvo Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Their record signing cost them £28m, so it would be hard to argue that they aren't already operating (occasionally) at a much higher level in the transfer market than us. How many years before we spend close to £30m on a transfer? And that signing is almost certainly moving on this summer as well. Not sure they're going to splash those amounts on too many players all at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc1976 Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 If you accept that loyalty is essentially dead, then there's not a great deal we can do in a situation such as this. We have been identified as the number one stepping stone club of English football it seems. And it isn't clear if there's anything we can realistically do about it. What that means in terms of achieving progression in a sustainable way I have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 I hope this move to Everton is a carbon copy of his time at Valencia. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakkoUK Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 We should sign up Erwin Koeman reckon he was the brains and Ronald the mere hand puppet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 I'm actually excited now... We are in a position to attract some of the best managers, I'd love to see who we will get Hope the board do it quick tho along with transfers Unai Emery is the one I am going to dream about... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 I'm actually excited now... We are in a position to attract some of the best managers, I'd love to see who we will get Hope the board do it quick tho along with transfers Unai Emery is the one I am going to dream about... Emery. Behave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 I hope this move to Everton is a carbon copy of his time at Valencia. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Hmm but he won a trophy at Valencia so maybe not that part lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monosaint Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 According to Clubcall only an hour ago, Saints have refused permission for Everton to talk to RK. Don't know what to believe. If that is true then they would only do that if they felt comfortable with RK staying on otherwise it doesn't make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 I'm just waiting until he signs a contract (wherever that maybe)....Then we can judge things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 4 June, 2016 Share Posted 4 June, 2016 Their new owner is clearly a bit mental, I would also guess one of those control freak types who can't accept no for an answer no matter what he has to do or how much it costs. I also think he has bought into media hype and this means that they aren't having a dramatic resurgence anytime soon if they are going to chase after the flavour of the month players like man Utd and Liverpool do and still not be competing on a financial par with either of those two clubs. Buying because a player is popular just won't work anymore not with the revenue in the league and savvy clubs like Saimts, West Ham and Leicester getting the up and coming superstars before the rich club system has broken the players motivation and playing ethic by over inflating their egos. Also if Saints said we have 6M a year to spend on getting a manager and we don't care about paying compensation, we are ready to make our next manager the 6th richest in the world; is there honestly a single Saints fan who hand on heart would choose Ronald Koeman out of all the potential options? That my friends is how mental Evertons new owner is... I reckon a few clubs are gonna make an absolute mint selling average players to this dumbass. Should be fun to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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