Jimmy_D Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 The talks are about whether they can talk. That means agreeing compensation and I just get a feeling Saints may set it stupidly high. Where did the £3m come from? Probably Everton, bring what they'd expect to pay. After all, Everton have done nothing but brag about how much money they've got, and how much they can pay Ron, so how about we suggest a bit more? £10m? Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk There will be a point where it would be cheaper for Koeman to buy out his own contract though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Not really worried about Koeman leaving. I personally wouldnt mind getting in Eddie Howe on a long term deal maybe he would embrace our youth options more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintoaks Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 I'm thinking of getting a new st George flag for next seasons euro tour, any ideas on the wording ? "Sfc Forever in transition" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Not really worried about Koeman leaving. I personally wouldnt mind getting in Eddie Howe on a long term deal maybe he would embrace our youth options more... If they're not good enough, then there's not much point in embracing them. We've been there before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Adam Blackmore @bigadamsport 36s37 seconds ago Koeman was happy with new contract offer from #saintsfc & key players signed new deals, 5yr plan agreed - then he got a new agent #nuffsaid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 I hope that if Koeman does turn them down, we go over to their forum and gloat en mass. I was wrong to say we were being out of order to that Everton fan yesterday... F()ck it, it'll be funny flicking the bird to the blue bin dippers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Adam Blackmore @bigadamsport 5m5 minutes ago #saintsfc & Everton are in talks over Koeman - fact - next up will be the 'official' request for permission to speak to him #EFC Adam Blackmore @bigadamsport 3m3 minutes ago Koeman was happy with new contract offer from #saintsfc & key players signed new deals, 5yr plan agreed - then he got a new agent #nuffsaid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 1 season. Don't bring it over two seasons. We lost 2 players last year, that was it. 1 freak pre-season, don't make it into more than it was. Toby, Morgan and Clyne were just as big losses. We lost Paul Mitchell too. That's a lot and now Koeman. Wanyama and mane for sure too. You were the one that was messaging me saying things were gonna be awful after Cortese you have changed ur tune. This is a massive nightmare for club. Don't dress it up as nothing big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 If they're not good enough, then there's not much point in embracing them. We've been there before. This I agree with completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Adam Blackmore @bigadamsport 5m5 minutes ago #saintsfc & Everton are in talks over Koeman - fact - next up will be the 'official' request for permission to speak to him #EFC Adam Blackmore @bigadamsport 3m3 minutes ago Koeman was happy with new contract offer from #saintsfc & key players signed new deals, 5yr plan agreed - then he got a new agent #nuffsaid This agent stuff is ********, he is a grown man not a puppet, he doesn't need an agent to say no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Adam Blackmore @bigadamsport 36s37 seconds ago Koeman was happy with new contract offer from #saintsfc & key players signed new deals, 5yr plan agreed - then he got a new agent #nuffsaid The agent will do what the managers wants him to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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S-Clarke Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Don't preach to me mate. Toby, Morgan and Clyne were just as big losses. We lost Paul Mitchell too. That's a lot and now Koeman. Wanyama and mane for sure too. You were the one that was messaging me saying things were gonna be awful after Cortese you have changed ur tune. This is a massive nightmare for club. Don't dress it up as nothing big. It will be a shame if it happens, but i think we've proven over the last 2 years that we can respond to set backs, we've got a structure in place that will enable us to go again whatever happens. If it happens, it happens. Bring on the new manager and a fantastic opportunity in Europe next year. Toby wasn't our player, cannot include him in any exodus. Of course morgan and Clyne were losses, but it wasn't of the level as the year before - hence that year being a 1 off really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ByTheGolacs Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 I like RK and his bro - For all the success they have had, they seem down to earth, hard working, smart, funny and honest. However the same thing can be said of our current Board of Directors... They have brought success and financial stability to our club I trust they will do right by SFC and all of us, as fans... COYS!!! I love reading this forum, because I love all things Saints, and I know and value all posters who take the time to go to great lengths to explain their personal views and then expand on them frequently (and sometimes contradict themselves in the process). Most fans I know amongst both friends and family, season ticket holders and occasional match go-ers would agree with the above 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 This agent stuff is ********, he is a grown man not a puppet, he doesn't need an agent to say no. Exactly. Still guess it's a necessary coping mechanism for some of the dins on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 There is obviously talks going on. This is not an imaginary scenario dreamed up by fans New agent or not. That makes little difference to what is happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Koeman can leave, his career was saved by Fraser Forster anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 On the plus side this place is actually quite entertaining again for the first time in months. Cheers Ron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 There will be a point where it would be cheaper for Koeman to buy out his own contract though. True. I'm just having a slightly annoyed rant. Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 I'm already more interested in who we get in than worried about the loss of Koeman. He's done very well, I like him, but if he wants out bye bye. Absolutely. We will get someone else in with real qualities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 This agent stuff is ********, he is a grown man not a puppet, he doesn't need an agent to say no. His agent wouldn't be doing his job if he didn't get Ron a chat with Everton.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintoaks Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 It's still Koemans decision tho, and I still don't get why ? ok, the money but we must be offering a bloody good wage, but surely he must take into account his brother, Sammy Lee, Dave Watson, and he must know he's onto a good thing here or is there another agenda ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Has AVB signed yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Jeremy Wilson: Ronald Koeman situation will also develop over the weekend - Everton and Southampton began direct talks for 1st time today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Jeremy Wilson: Ronald Koeman situation will also develop over the weekend - Everton and Southampton began direct talks for 1st time today It's happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 His agent wouldn't be doing his job if he didn't get Ron a chat with Everton.. Funny time to change your agent though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 It's happening. I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Would people have preferred Palace and Stoke to finish 12 or 20 points ahead of us and Everton poaching Hughes or Pardew and we keep Koeman or the situation we have now? Asking for a friend on death row currently making a similar choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Funny time to change your agent though. I honestly believe his talk of us showing ambition etc at the end of the season was just to buy himself some time. He sacked his agent as there was not enough on the table brought out from Everton Now a new agent has got more ££££ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 It's happening. but not as we expected it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/14536031.Koeman_will_have_to_fight_to_leave_Saints_despite_Everton_approach/?ref=twtrec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 It will be a shame if it happens, but i think we've proven over the last 2 years that we can respond to set backs, we've got a structure in place that will enable us to go again whatever happens. If it happens, it happens. Bring on the new manager and a fantastic opportunity in Europe next year. Toby wasn't our player, cannot include him in any exodus. Of course morgan and Clyne were losses, but it wasn't of the level as the year before - hence that year being a 1 off really. Cortese would have sorted the Toby deal out a long time before Spurs came in. We've done well cos we have excellent manager that's why and he's going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Would people have preferred Palace and Stoke to finish 12 or 20 points ahead of us and Everton poaching Hughes or Pardew and we keep Koeman or the situation we have now? Asking for a friend on death row currently making a similar choice. Nope, would just prefer to keep the manager who has led us to record points hauls, record placing, Europe twice and all with a net transfer spend... if that's not too much to ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/14536031.Koeman_will_have_to_fight_to_leave_Saints_despite_Everton_approach/?ref=twtrec Sounds like a club PR Plant - nothing we could have done etc etc. Anyway, let's just get this done so we can get on with the next one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/14536031.Koeman_will_have_to_fight_to_leave_Saints_despite_Everton_approach/?ref=twtrec Another club fed PR piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBizzier69 Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Other than his salary, I think this is a bad move for him. Just can't see how it can work out well, even if he's given the reported £100m plus proceeds of sale for Lukaku, Stones etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Snap, S-Clarke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 B Thought this would be the case. Which does bode well for us moving forward without him: he made statements about being ambitious and Saints needing to match his ambitions; which it would appear we did. At least until something else changed his mind. Perhaps 7m somethings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 That piece in Echo is pathetic PR spin from Saints. At the end of the day saints just bend over and take it with out so much of a fight. Koeman is a **** but **** sake saints grow some balls Sent from my SM-A300FU using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 That piece in Echo is pathetic PR spin from Saints. At the end of the day saints just bend over and take it with out so much of a fight. Koeman is a **** but **** sake saints grow some balls Sent from my SM-A300FU using Tapatalk Yeah, it scream of PR spin - club couldn't do any more, we look great etc etc. But.....what are we supposed to do? are we bending over, or are we being sensible by deciding not to overpay on a manager who isn't 100% committed long term? I think if that's the case and his head was seemingly turned by a club lower down in the league due to $$$, it kinda says something about him more than it does about us - in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Nope, would just prefer to keep the manager who has led us to record points hauls, record placing, Europe twice and all with a net transfer spend... if that's not too much to ask. Enjoy your champagne moment. it's been a long time coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 He quite clearly wasn't happy with the deal on the table, that's why he got a new agent... RK has behaved appallingly in this. I don't expect loyalty from every player and manager and for them to spend their entire careers with us, but I do expect them to behave with some integrity and honesty, and to treat the club with some respect. RK on more than one occasion said he would be our manager next season when asked directly about Everton's interest and yet he's now in advanced talks with them. ****ing poor from him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 That piece in Echo is pathetic PR spin from Saints. At the end of the day saints just bend over and take it with out so much of a fight. Koeman is a **** but **** sake saints grow some balls Sent from my SM-A300FU using Tapatalk he has decided to go and there is nothing we can do to change that. This is totally about saying to Keoman that you need to quit so that we can at least gain a decent pay off. If he has decided that he wants out what can we do? force him to stay and expect him to be 100% commited to our cause? he is chasing the money and has shown his true colours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Enjoy your champagne moment. it's been a long time coming. You don't genuinely believe I'm happy this is happening or that I wish this upon the club, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 That piece in Echo is pathetic PR spin from Saints. At the end of the day saints just bend over and take it with out so much of a fight. Koeman is a **** but **** sake saints grow some balls Sent from my SM-A300FU using Tapatalk In this case what would be 'fight'? Us matching Everton's offer? And we end up employing the sixth highest paid manager in the world..........how does that fit with the very clear ethos of the club, as set out by the person who saved it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 It always amazes me how surprised people are when these people decide to leave. You don't become one of the best defenders in the world by being anything other than ruthlessly ambitious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Kucho Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 That piece in Echo is pathetic PR spin from Saints. At the end of the day saints just bend over and take it with out so much of a fight. Koeman is a **** but **** sake saints grow some balls Sent from my SM-A300FU using Tapatalk Love him or loath him, but at these times we could do with Cortese in charge. He made his mistakes, but its hard to find someone better at the club in negotiating with other clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 I'm not a fan of the board but I just want this done now. I suppose, in the cold light of day, it'll be hard to justify paying a manager several million more than some of the players, deservedly or not. Imagine the contract wrangling that'd create if some of the players kicked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 This could just be more brinkmanship though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 In this case what would be 'fight'? Us matching Everton's offer? And we end up employing the sixth highest paid manager in the world..........how does that fit with the very clear ethos of the club, as set out by the person who saved it? Didn't realise Everton's offer was going to do that. He's good but he isn't that good. Wonder where he will rank in PL manager wages if he does go to Everton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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