doddisalegend Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 I wouldnt call him a liar as such. He did say he doesnt want to be a project manager and be at a club who's ambition is to rebuild every season. After two years of doing that you can understand why he wouldnt want to do it again. If he goes which looks likely (Toby part 2) then I don't blame him for a second. He has done fantastic for us. If he would rather leave a top 6 club for a club in the bottom half then it shows he either buys into their ambition above ours, or he wants a lot of cash. If it is the cash then he can do one. But i think it is the ambition. Our board/owner have got themselves into a pattern of selling every summer. We might not like it but that is the truth. If lower teams start taking them from us then that is when i become worried. We sold two players last summer, none so far this summer. This idea we are a massive selling club is a myth that is becoming fact, in some peoples minds, based on one bad summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 According to Adam Blackmore, Koemans agent indicated that there is an offer on the table from Saints, no offer from Everton. That was 4hours ago though. https://twitter.com/bigadamsport Also reckons that this would be a step backward for him, having to re-build, no European football. I would like to believe him but....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Love the hypocrisy on this board. We moan like f**k at Everton coming in to steal our manager, but it's perfectly acceptable for us to do the same to Bournemouth. Don't see it that way at all. People are in the main ****ed at Ronald who said he would stay but now looks like he might go. Rather than take it out on him, they transfer the hate at Everton who are trying to get him. I doubt there is any real malice towards a club signing a manager. People don't want to be caught calling Ronald a **** as yet in case he stays, it's always better to have the villain as a third party not connected until such time as the scenario happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Love the hypocrisy on this board. We moan like f**k at Everton coming in to steal our manager, but it's perfectly acceptable for us to do the same to Bournemouth. Yeah and if he comes it will only be motivated by being a greedy bastrd. Where's the loyalty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Love the hypocrisy on this board. We moan like f**k at Everton coming in to steal our manager, but it's perfectly acceptable for us to do the same to Bournemouth. No hypocrisy from me I don't want Howe Bournemouth can keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Don't see it that way at all. People are in the main ****ed at Ronald who said he would stay but now looks like he might go. Rather than take it out on him, they transfer the hate at Everton who are trying to get him. I doubt there is any real malice towards a club signing a manager. People don't want to be caught calling Ronald a **** as yet in case he stays, it's always better to have the villain as a third party not connected until such time as the scenario happens. I will always hate Everton. No hate to transfer there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Love the hypocrisy on this board. We moan like f**k at Everton coming in to steal our manager, but it's perfectly acceptable for us to do the same to Bournemouth. It's the way of going about things mate. I posted earlier that if we were to take Howe, it would be on Bournemouth's terms and I wouldn't use the media to pressurise the situation. Everton on the other hand have completely gone about the situation disgustingly, straight out of Mr Levy's book of dealing with transfers... Not to forget the use of press Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 It's the way of going about things mate. I posted earlier that if we were to take Howe, it would be on Bournemouth's terms and I wouldn't use the media to pressurise the situation. Everton on the other hand have completely gone about the situation disgustingly, straight out of Mr Levy's book of dealing with transfers... Not to forget the use of press Point stands that everyone likes poaching and nobody likes being poached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Curbishley is frothing at the mouth as we speak. #imavailable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoPints Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Guy on Facebook posted a photo of him and RK. RK told he is staying and trying to sign 2 dutch players I'm sure thats exactly how Koeman operates. Talking openly about his transfer plans and plans for his own future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Benali Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 We sold two players last summer, none so far this summer. This idea we are a massive selling club is a myth that is becoming fact, in some peoples minds, based on one bad summer. We have sold Morgan, Lallana, Shaw, Chambers, Clyne, Lambert, Cork, Lovren in the past 2 seasons. If Koeman goes do you really think we will be holding on to everybody? Plus has the transfer market opened yet? I thought it was the first of July? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Curbishley is frothing at the mouth as we speak. #imavailable Would prefer George Graham or Bruce Rioch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Love the hypocrisy on this board. We moan like f**k at Everton coming in to steal our manager, but it's perfectly acceptable for us to do the same to Bournemouth. That's like saying it's hypocritical to cheer when we win a match because we're upset when someone wins against us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Surely this cannot be true? I thought it was a done deal Yeah and Batman amongst others is slaggin him off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soggy Bottom Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Link, source, photo etc please. Must have proof it was seen today/yesterday as well. https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPQWXz597QNYXSfOBs96M42zIskKMGHwXjCCwQOSq-ca2YQfxwTZp8jsrn7gvTrtg/photo/AF1QipNCye9zIzGul3CsKLKtJq0w7ofypSvFPRwTTLvu?key=SWZRSTNTcVNPT1dzU0x1SGJWZzE1RTNPdTVMU0x3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 That's like saying it's hypocritical to cheer when we win a match because we're upset when someone wins against us... Or The Chapel Syndrome as it's otherwise known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 F**k, lets just get this done either way and move on. Serious doubts about our ambition and Uncle Les's vision ability to sell the club considering the last 3 summers If we are not careful, what with 6 Europe League games distracting us and f**k knows what collateral damage in the transfer market resulting from this, we could be facing relegation next season. If there were over reactions and OVER REACTIONS this is the best of ther best... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashby Saint Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Would prefer George Graham or Bruce Rioch He is a local lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPQWXz597QNYXSfOBs96M42zIskKMGHwXjCCwQOSq-ca2YQfxwTZp8jsrn7gvTrtg/photo/AF1QipNCye9zIzGul3CsKLKtJq0w7ofypSvFPRwTTLvu?key=SWZRSTNTcVNPT1dzU0x1SGJWZzE1RTNPdTVMU0x3 That picture could be from any time to be honest. If it was from the other day, why the hell does it look like he's wearing a flaming scarf...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPQWXz597QNYXSfOBs96M42zIskKMGHwXjCCwQOSq-ca2YQfxwTZp8jsrn7gvTrtg/photo/AF1QipNCye9zIzGul3CsKLKtJq0w7ofypSvFPRwTTLvu?key=SWZRSTNTcVNPT1dzU0x1SGJWZzE1RTNPdTVMU0x3 Looks like RL is wearing a thick scarf or jumper in that photo....and its June. A ****e June tbf, but still...i'm skeptical! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sainttomski Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Some guy admitted on twitter that the photo is from Dec 2014... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPQWXz597QNYXSfOBs96M42zIskKMGHwXjCCwQOSq-ca2YQfxwTZp8jsrn7gvTrtg/photo/AF1QipNCye9zIzGul3CsKLKtJq0w7ofypSvFPRwTTLvu?key=SWZRSTNTcVNPT1dzU0x1SGJWZzE1RTNPdTVMU0x3 Ta. Doesn't come up when searching on the hashtag on FB so wonder if he has deleted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashby Saint Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 (edited) Looks like RL is wearing a thick scarf or jumper in that photo....and its June. A ****e June tbf, but still...i'm skeptical! He has just come back from the Caribbean to a damp, soggy UK. Oh. Just seen it was taken in Dec 2014. Edited 3 June, 2016 by Ashby Saint Further info in subsequent post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Looks like RL is wearing a thick scarf or jumper in that photo....and its June. A ****e June tbf, but still...i'm skeptical! Can't believe he didn't get him to hold the day's newspaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1576 Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Well he cant be going. I bought a season ticket yesterday and got an email this morning from Ronald himself saying how pleased he was that I'd bought a season ticket and that he and the players will value my support next season so he must be staying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPQWXz597QNYXSfOBs96M42zIskKMGHwXjCCwQOSq-ca2YQfxwTZp8jsrn7gvTrtg/photo/AF1QipNCye9zIzGul3CsKLKtJq0w7ofypSvFPRwTTLvu?key=SWZRSTNTcVNPT1dzU0x1SGJWZzE1RTNPdTVMU0x3 Thanks for that - when was it posted? Today? Just seen Dec 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Well he cant be going. I bought a season ticket yesterday and got an email this morning from Ronald himself saying how pleased he was that I'd bought a season ticket and that he and the players will value my support next season so he must be staying. Maybe why no comment the poor bugger is busy drafting emails. Respect for the effort though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADutchSaint Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Call me crazy but i dont see Koeman going anywhere, he said publicly a lot of times he regretted leaving PSV early for Valencia and that in the future he wouldn't do that again. Now if Barca came along i can see him taking that train cause thats his dream but for Everton? I dont see it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Koeman has already primed us to expect a couple of players leaving. I wonder if Les signed JWP, VVD and FF on big deals in case Koeman left and then wanted to poach them, big sell on clauses I would suspect. How many CL places will be needed next year for all these wealthy owners trying to buy success, they can't all be top 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoPints Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPQWXz597QNYXSfOBs96M42zIskKMGHwXjCCwQOSq-ca2YQfxwTZp8jsrn7gvTrtg/photo/AF1QipNCye9zIzGul3CsKLKtJq0w7ofypSvFPRwTTLvu?key=SWZRSTNTcVNPT1dzU0x1SGJWZzE1RTNPdTVMU0x3 Is that Christmas decorations in the background too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Love the hypocrisy on this board. We moan like f**k at Everton coming in to steal our manager, but it's perfectly acceptable for us to do the same to Bournemouth. That isn't what's happening, so not sure why you're getting wound up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Call me crazy but i dont see Koeman going anywhere, he said publicly a lot of times he regretted leaving PSV early for Valencia and that in the future he wouldn't do that again. Now if Barca came along i can see him taking that train cause thats his dream but for Everton? I dont see it happening. You're crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 He has just come back from the Caribbean to a damp, soggy UK. Oh. Just seen it was taken in Dec 2014. And there's Christmas lights. And no earlobes. NO EARLOBES! How do we know it is even Ron??!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/southampton-fans-view.88841/page-16 If anyone would like a good laugh please read this thread haha some of it is gold. I've never seen such a deluded fanbase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Alex Crook on Talksport about an hour ago saying he is pretty shocked by all of this as Ronald has said numerous times in the last weeks of the season that he would be staying suggested that maybe ronald could be cashing out now as this is good as it gets at saints but does not get why everton as they wont be finishing 6th any time soon Mentioned that Howe is very fondly thought of by Reed should ronald leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Some guy admitted on twitter that the photo is from Dec 2014... The Christmas decorations were a bit of a giveaway to be fair... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Is that Christmas decorations in the background too? The guy admitted the photo was old and it's all bull****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 We have sold Morgan, Lallana, Shaw, Chambers, Clyne, Lambert, Cork, Lovren in the past 2 seasons. If Koeman goes do you really think we will be holding on to everybody? Plus has the transfer market opened yet? I thought it was the first of July? Five of those were in one summer never happened before hasn't happened again. We are no more a selling club than anyone else bar one mad summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Why do people actually post **** like that on facebook? Haven't they got a life to be getting on with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 The Christmas decorations were a bit of a giveaway to be fair... No flies on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Looks like RL is wearing a thick scarf or jumper in that photo....and its June. A ****e June tbf, but still...i'm skeptical! He does say in the write up that it is an old photo, but the meeting DID happen, but because he now works in security he is unable to have his mobile on him during work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 For Koeman the decision to switch Agent is paying off nicely. Probably why he switched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 For Koeman the decision to switch Agent is paying off nicely. Probably why he switched. I think it's why anyone switches agent. See Fonte and Clyne for previous examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 Alex Crook on Talksport about an hour ago saying he is pretty shocked by all of this as Ronald has said numerous times in the last weeks of the season that he would be staying suggested that maybe ronald could be cashing out now as this is good as it gets at saints but does not get why everton as they wont be finishing 6th any time soon Mentioned that Howe is very fondly thought of by Reed should ronald leave I thought it was Hawksbee who said " he won't get Everton higher than 6th " rather than they won't get 6th . Also thought Howe was his suggestion rather than Les' . But to be honest I didn't listen too hard .Once he said that Saints fans will accept him despite his Boscombe connections , contrasting that with Portsmouth connections , I put him in the clueless camp . Howe is a skate and he didn't appear to know that . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 I thought it was Hawksbee who said " he won't get Everton higher than 6th " rather than they won't get 6th . Also thought Howe was his suggestion rather than Les' . But to be honest I didn't listen too hard .Once he said that Saints fans will accept him despite his Boscombe connections , contrasting that with Portsmouth connections , I put him in the clueless camp . Howe is a skate and he didn't appear to know that . JWP is a skate too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 JWP is a skate too But Crook was making the point that he had Bournemouth connections not Skate ones , so supporters would accept him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 But Crook was making the point that he had Bournemouth connections not Skate ones , so supporters would accept him wouldn't you accept him? not as if he is coming directly from pompey in any recent past, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 It seems alpine is saying that if we can't have koeman sign now then he should go. Because he can't handle uncertainty. Personally I'd rather have days or weeks of not knowing then him stay than have him confirmed as everton manager today! Doesnt work like that. We could get days or weeks of not knowing then him leave, and be left f**k-all time to find a replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 I've never even thought that Eddie Howe was a skate - did he play for them then? If I am honest, apart from Redknapp walking back through the door, there isn't any high profile football person I would not want at the club because he is a "skate". David Nugent maybe if he suddenly became a manager. Avram. I'm struggling. Let's not be tinpot about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 3 June, 2016 Share Posted 3 June, 2016 You heard it here first. Ron is staying! (well someone has to be optimistic!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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