del boy Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 From todays Southampton Echo "Saints would have to give Koeman permission to speak with Everton and no formal approach has yet been made.Reports coming out of Everton concur that Koeman has not spoken with the Toffees"
whelk Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 This non-acceptance of managers running down contracts is not viewed same in Europe as manager/coach is less influential overall. We are closer to most to having a similar set up which is why we don't need to panic as it not all built around RK's methods.
trousers Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 Fair enough. Everyone I knew was gutted when Adkins left. Turned out to be the right decision (at least that was on our terms) but with the emotion in football I don't understand that reaction. Obviously its gutted in football terms, not life events etc. Don't get me wrong, I can be as emotionally irrational as the next man (or lady) when it comes to supporting my football team. But that's more about what goes on on the pitch rather than in the boardroom. I support the club, not whoever happens to be the current manager. (That doesn't mean I don't 'support' the current manager when they are here in the narrower sense of the word, before you leap on that statement... ) Yes, of course, who the manager is has an impact on what happens on the field, but managers (and players) will always be transient so I tend not to waste too much emotional energy if/when they leave. I much prefer to save my irrationality for match days
Shroppie Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 Why wouldn't they want him to 'run his contract down'? His 'value' is not like a player who enters his last year. The compensation for Koeman's services is being mentioned as c£2m. So that won't factor in the decision of the board. It will be more a question of whether they feel he will give his all to the club in the final year of his contract and whether any suitable candidates are available. I don't disagree. I think it's commitment they want and to avoid the uncertainty they would have as his contract ended Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk
whelk Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 Don't get me wrong, I can be as emotionally irrational as the next man (or lady) when it comes to supporting my football team. But that's more about what goes on on the pitch rather than in the boardroom. I support the club, not whoever happens to be the current manager. (That doesn't mean I don't 'support' the current manager when they are here in the narrower sense of the word, before you leap on that statement... ) Yes, of course, who the manager is has an impact on what happens on the field, but managers and players will always be transient so I tend not to waste too much emotional energy if/when they leave. I much prefer to save my irrationality for match days Do you share this with your therapist? All seems under control [emoji3]. Most including me are far less rational
whelk Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 Is he dead to us yet? He is getting fatter and more ginger for sure
angelman Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 Fair enough. Everyone I knew was gutted when Adkins left. Turned out to be the right decision (at least that was on our terms) but with the emotion in football I don't understand that reaction. Obviously its gutted in football terms, not life events etc. Right decision?? Really? I thought it a terrible decision, unless you are someone who only focuses on results rather than how you get there. What we did to NA was shoddy, but then I guess all of football is like that. People seem to excuse it because it is football which exists in it's own little bubble which I for one sincerely hopes will burst sooner rather than later.
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 From todays Southampton Echo "Saints would have to give Koeman permission to speak with Everton and no formal approach has yet been made.Reports coming out of Everton concur that Koeman has not spoken with the Toffees" Wouldn't his agent do all the talking?
Winchester Red Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 How can our ITKs know anything? We KNOW from the video interview that we have offered RK a new contract and its with agents and lawyers to thrash out details We THINK Everton have offered him £6-7m / year for no idea how long which will probably be success related It's possible The board have said Extend or go to RK The only person who knows what's going to happen is RK and perhaps he hasn't decided yet
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 Why wouldn't they want him to 'run his contract down'? His 'value' is not like a player who enters his last year. The compensation for Koeman's services is being mentioned as c£2m. So that won't factor in the decision of the board. It will be more a question of whether they feel he will give his all to the club in the final year of his contract and whether any suitable candidates are available. The compensation should be one year of the new salary, not the previous. I make that £7m.
trousers Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 Do you share this with your therapist? All seems under control [emoji3]. Most including me are far less rational Yes, but they only let me out to see my therapist on Tuesdays which, quite frankly, is far too little for my needs.
whelk Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 Reminds me of this: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/southampton-remain-hopeful-signing-toby-alderweireld-despite-tottenham-chelsea-interest-1508657 (Same headline) I am convinced the Daily Express is written by bots pulling headlines and sentences from a comment bank. Wouldn't be surprising that will soon be everywhere.
Shroppie Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 (edited) There isn't a media storm though? Media largely quiet on it which is why people aren't sure if its true. True. Even Sky can't find a "source" to confirm anything. They quote the claim that Ron is on his way for talks, but that's now been dismissed by both clubs as rubbish. The story is that Everton have made such a massive offer he'll obviously take it. So if they say it will be a done deal, it effectively is. So there. Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk Edited 3 June, 2016 by Shroppie
whelk Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 True. Even Sky can't find a "source" to confirm anything. They quote the claim that Ron is on his way for talks, but that's now been dismissed by both clubs as rubbish. The story is that Everton have made such a massive offer he'll obviously take it. So if they say it will be s dine deal, it effectively is. So there. Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk They managed to get that sage Peter Reid to comment on potential appointment. RK's done a terrific job at Southampton apparently.
Winchester Red Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 It says something about how unappealing Everton are as a job that they've got to offer such a crazy amount of money to get someone decent in (maybe)
whelk Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 Yes, but they only let me out to see my therapist on Tuesdays which, quite frankly, is far too little for my needs. On a serious note I wish football didn't fck with my life so much. If I had a therapist I might be able to channel my rage towards Hodgson when we limp out of the Euros. My rational self could understand It is unhelpful and it is not solely his fault. I should picture myself on the beach imagining the gentle sound of waves.
Tommog Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 I agree the rumors seem a little unfounded when all this is based off a pretty unreliable source. But the lack of response from RK or Saints is pretty telling. RK is normally pretty active on Twitter himself. Wouldn't kill them to just come out with a "contract talks still progressing well" etc type comment if this was all nonsense, i know ultimately it is meaningless, but they would look pretty bad if they said it and then he left 2 hours later. They are well aware the media/saints fans are getting themselves worked up over it.
beatlesaint Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 From todays Southampton Echo "Saints would have to give Koeman permission to speak with Everton and no formal approach has yet been made.Reports coming out of Everton concur that Koeman has not spoken with the Toffees" Presumably if he decided he doesnt want to extend his contract here the club will give that permission rather than let him run his contract down, have all the uncertainty and unrest next season then go through all this next summer ?
Suhari Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 How can our ITKs know anything? We KNOW from the video interview that we have offered RK a new contract and its with agents and lawyers to thrash out details We THINK Everton have offered him £6-7m / year for no idea how long which will probably be success related It's possible The board have said Extend or go to RK The only person who knows what's going to happen is RK and perhaps he hasn't decided yet A beautiful summary of the last few pages. Anything else, is at this stage, the product of peoples minds. Along with any feelings of annoyance, anger etc.
Patrick Bateman Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 I am convinced the Daily Express is written by bots pulling headlines and sentences from a comment bank. Wouldn't be surprising that will soon be everywhere. This.
Suhari Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 Just thinking how funny it would be if he signed a new Saints contract later today.
Shroppie Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 Just thinking how funny it would be if he signed a new Saints contract later today. I would spend the whole weekend reading the Everton forum. Conversely, if he doesn't, I'm going nowhere near the arrogant gloating ****s. Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk
Saint Charlie Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 Just thinking how funny it would be if he signed a new Saints contract later today. Would be fantastic! Anything is possible until he actually signs for them.
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 Christ, seems as people have been up all night getting in a lather over nothing more than a rumour And of course St Charlie of doom is loving it...he is weird
Norm Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 Is there a 'like' function on here? Haha, don't mind that at all. Wouldn't expect anything less! No, it's the response from a childish knob. I saw nothing to resemble gloating in your post and if RK does take the Everton role, you will have got a first rate manager. I just hope he remains at Saints. But if he goes, nobody died.
doddisalegend Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 Presumably if he decided he doesnt want to extend his contract here the club will give that permission rather than let him run his contract down, have all the uncertainty and unrest next season then go through all this next summer ? Koeman has always said he will see out his contract. If he wants a big job it's in his interest to do a good job with us in his last season. We could just make him stay ( assuming his contract has no get out clause) and plan a smooth transition to a new manager next season.
Shroppie Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 Koeman has always said he will see out his contract. If he wants a big job it's in his interest to do a good job with us in his last season. We could just make him stay ( assuming his contract has no get out clause) and plan a smooth transition to a new manager next season. Don't think that will happen. If we were determined to keep him for the year at all costs there would have been a firmer rebuttal of Everton's interest. Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk
beatlesaint Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 Just thinking how funny it would be if he signed a new Saints contract later today. if only this would come true
whelk Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 Christ, seems as people have been up all night getting in a lather over nothing more than a rumour And of course St Charlie of doom is loving it...he is weird No doubt you were hoping to chuckle at some biscuit puns. My how we laughed
angelman Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 No, it's the response from a childish knob. I saw nothing to resemble gloating in your post and if RK does take the Everton role, you will have got a first rate manager. I just hope he remains at Saints. But if he goes, nobody died. I agree, but maybe some here have taken all Evertonians as being the same, as there have been a huge number of bell ends appearing with unfounded arrogance since the new owner came about with his deep pockets. Unfortunately it is rather indicative of the modern day football supporter. Everton won the league 30 years ago and anyone who remembers that glorious time for them probably appreciates football how it used to be and hopefully wouldn't be one of those coming out with all the arrogant tosh
Scoobysaint Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 Asked Skybet for odds on Koeman still being Saints manager at start of season. Response was, "we are not offering a market for that".
Suhari Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 No work today: check. Comfy chair: check. Plentiful supply of tea & coffee: check. Strong internet connection: check. Popcorn and other assorted snacks: check. Recently refurbished F5 button: check. Ability to smile at peoples' ability to rant over rumour and hearsay: check. Okay - I'm ready for my Friday.
whelk Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 I agree, but maybe some here have taken all Evertonians as being the same, as there have been a huge number of bell ends appearing with unfounded arrogance since the new owner came about with his deep pockets. Unfortunately it is rather indicative of the modern day football supporter. Everton won the league 30 years ago and anyone who remembers that glorious time for them probably appreciates football how it used to be and hopefully wouldn't be one of those coming out with all the arrogant tosh I hate Everton with a passion but their fans are no more deluded than any others. All clubs have them. Amazed people put up quotes from other forums (POL excepted) as if representative. Colossal co cks lurk everywhere on internet.
Bald Headed Jesus Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 He is getting fatter and more ginger for sure Nice
whelk Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 No work today: check. Comfy chair: check. Plentiful supply of tea & coffee: check. Strong internet connection: check. Popcorn and other assorted snacks: check. Recently refurbished F5 button: check. Ability to smile at peoples' ability to rant over rumour and hearsay: check. Okay - I'm ready for my Friday. I can match the day off but not the recently refurbished F5 button
Saints foreva Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 No, it's the response from a childish knob. I saw nothing to resemble gloating in your post and if RK does take the Everton role, you will have got a first rate manager. I just hope he remains at Saints. But if he goes, nobody died.
Suhari Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 Saints Eye Giggs as their Next Manager. We need to start this as a rumour. Really. It has everything needed to get traction and possibly cause various meltdowns in various corners of the internet.
Um Bongo Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 Really hope he doesn't leave, but i'm more then confident we'll have a replacement lined up. We have Europe to offer and arguably our best ever squad - Onwards and upwards SFC.
Delmary Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 No work today: check. Comfy chair: check. Plentiful supply of tea & coffee: check. Strong internet connection: check. Popcorn and other assorted snacks: check. Recently refurbished F5 button: check. Ability to smile at peoples' ability to rant over rumour and hearsay: check. Okay - I'm ready for my Friday. [emoji2][emoji106]
Suhari Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 I can match the day off but not the recently refurbished F5 button Get down to Curry's and grab a replacement keyboard then! In for the long haul...
whelk Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 Get down to Curry's and grab a replacement keyboard then! In for the long haul... Alas I use Tapatalk from mobile so refresh is done by pulling down screen. I will be looking for a flash patterned silk thumb cover.
Yorkshire Saint Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 No work today: check. Comfy chair: check. Plentiful supply of tea & coffee: check. Strong internet connection: check. Popcorn and other assorted snacks: check. Recently refurbished F5 button: check. Ability to smile at peoples' ability to rant over rumour and hearsay: check. Okay - I'm ready for my Friday. Quality - I'm in the same boat other than working remotely at the same time with SSN in the back ground - how sad haha
Mr Biscuits Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 I hate Everton with a passion but their fans are no more deluded than any others. All clubs have them. Amazed people put up quotes from other forums (POL excepted) as if representative. Colossal co cks lurk everywhere on internet. Everyone is a keyboard warrior in the safety of their own house. I sometimes make myself giggle about some of the..... 'Gentle disagreements' on here and wonder if the same things would be said, face to face, in a pub. In other news, I have no biscuits. However I am close to a shop.
richard Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 Get down to Curry's and grab a replacement keyboard then! In for the long haul... http://www.guidingtech.com/12491/auto-refresh-pages-chrome-firefox-opera/
hutch Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 The now world-famous Alpine technique of saying "everything is easy in hindsight" is the forum gloom-merchant's greatest weapon. Get out of jail free card for the hard of thinking.
Patrick Bateman Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 Well I stuck £10 on Emery at 6/1 (at Everton). WTF is there to lose, apart from £10.
whelk Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 Well I stuck £10 on Emery at 6/1 (at Everton). WTF is there to lose, apart from £10. Apparently not interested in moving to PL at the moment. Seville to Liverpool would be one culture shock.
Saint Charlie Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 @GFFN: Breaking | PSG have contacted Unai Emery & have made him an offer, according to iTélé. FWIW this is the other guy Everton were looking at.
Patrick Bateman Posted 3 June, 2016 Posted 3 June, 2016 Apparently not interested in moving to PL at the moment. Seville to Liverpool would be one culture shock. It's all games - I'm pretty sure he'll end up at a PL club!
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