Matthew Le God Posted 18 May, 2016 Share Posted 18 May, 2016 Three of the four managers in the Liebherr era at St Mary's last night for Kelvin Davis' testimonial... Saints under the Liebherr's... Pardew 2009/10 = 51st Adkins 2010/11 = 46th 2011/12 = 22nd Adkins/Pochettino 12/13 = 14th Pochettino 2013/14 = 8th Koeman 2014/15 = 7th 2015/16 = 6th It really is impressive stuff when you look at it like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Uwe Posted 18 May, 2016 Share Posted 18 May, 2016 Great picture! It is very impressive and something all Saints fans should be proud of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 18 May, 2016 Share Posted 18 May, 2016 Good post. Great to see them together! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 18 May, 2016 Share Posted 18 May, 2016 I think that's a really good picture to be honest, shows there is no bad blood between any of them. Shows us as such a great club to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WealdSaint Posted 18 May, 2016 Share Posted 18 May, 2016 Hope nobody let Poch talk to any backroom staff, players etc etc.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 18 May, 2016 Share Posted 18 May, 2016 A pity Pardew was not there just hope Man U get beaten in the Cup Final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 18 May, 2016 Share Posted 18 May, 2016 A pity Pardew was not there just hope Man U get beaten in the Cup Final Depends if you want two qualifying rounds of Europa League or to go straight into the group stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 18 May, 2016 Share Posted 18 May, 2016 Depends if you want two qualifying rounds of Europa League or to go straight into the group stage. Maybe he really hates Man Utd and West Ham (who would lose out altogether if Palace win). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 18 May, 2016 Share Posted 18 May, 2016 Maybe he really hates Man Utd and West Ham (who would lose out altogether if Palace win). Don't think Pards hates West Ham, 3 years their manager... He may not think of them as the dogs ****** but he had some good times there. Probably hates Man U though, as he comes from the wrong part of London to be a Man U supporter He does have a score to settle though, the 1990 Cup Final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 18 May, 2016 Share Posted 18 May, 2016 I think that's a really good picture to be honest, shows there is no bad blood between any of them. Shows us as such a great club to be honest. It really does, and fair play to MP for accepting the invitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 18 May, 2016 Share Posted 18 May, 2016 Pochettino perfectly placed to be cropped out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 18 May, 2016 Share Posted 18 May, 2016 Pochettino perfectly placed to be cropped out there. Why would anyone do that, pal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesaint sfc Posted 19 May, 2016 Share Posted 19 May, 2016 God I wish there were more positive, upbeat posts like this on this fourham! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 19 May, 2016 Share Posted 19 May, 2016 Pochettino perfectly placed to be cropped out there. Why would anyone do that, pal? No-one is that petty surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 19 May, 2016 Share Posted 19 May, 2016 Maybe Pardew is actually standing on Ronald's left and he's the one who was cropped out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 19 May, 2016 Share Posted 19 May, 2016 Maybe he really hates Man Utd and West Ham (who would lose out altogether if Palace win). I think Badger meant John B.....I'd like to see Wham miss out as well, but have to agree not having to qualify for us is the best option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai27 Posted 19 May, 2016 Share Posted 19 May, 2016 One happy snap of Poch smiling at St. Mary's and everyone forgives and forgets. Come on guys really? Are we all really that fickle? This is the manager that left us high and dry after stringing the board along and then jumping ship at the first opportunity. He couldn't even be arsed to learn English at Saints but 1 week at Spurs and suddenly he's very capable. This is the manager of a club that likes to unsettle players via the press in the hope of turning their heads. A huge reason we dropped out of Europe so early was due to Wanyama not wanting to play following this. Imagine a CB pairing of Toby and Virgil? Not to be after more Spurs and Poch related underhand tactics. If it was up to me I wouldn't let anyone anywhere near the club with even a remote connection to Tottenham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 19 May, 2016 Share Posted 19 May, 2016 One happy snap of Poch smiling at St. Mary's and everyone forgives and forgets. Come on guys really? Are we all really that fickle? This is the manager that left us high and dry after stringing the board along and then jumping ship at the first opportunity. He couldn't even be arsed to learn English at Saints but 1 week at Spurs and suddenly he's very capable. This is the manager of a club that likes to unsettle players via the press in the hope of turning their heads. A huge reason we dropped out of Europe so early was due to Wanyama not wanting to play following this. Imagine a CB pairing of Toby and Virgil? Not to be after more Spurs and Poch related underhand tactics. If it was up to me I wouldn't let anyone anywhere near the club with even a remote connection to Tottenham. A good thing there are more measured minds making those decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi_sopez Posted 19 May, 2016 Share Posted 19 May, 2016 One happy snap of Poch smiling at St. Mary's and everyone forgives and forgets. Come on guys really? Are we all really that fickle? This is the manager that left us high and dry after stringing the board along and then jumping ship at the first opportunity. He couldn't even be arsed to learn English at Saints but 1 week at Spurs and suddenly he's very capable. This is the manager of a club that likes to unsettle players via the press in the hope of turning their heads. A huge reason we dropped out of Europe so early was due to Wanyama not wanting to play following this. Imagine a CB pairing of Toby and Virgil? Not to be after more Spurs and Poch related underhand tactics. If it was up to me I wouldn't let anyone anywhere near the club with even a remote connection to Tottenham. omg grow up, get over it. Poch did a great job for us, he moved on, like players and managers will continue to do for the rest of time. Koeman replaced him and has done a great job. Why the animosity has worked out well for all parties. Nice to have him back at the club and says a lot about the man that he made the effort to come down for the testimonial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 19 May, 2016 Share Posted 19 May, 2016 One happy snap of Poch smiling at St. Mary's and everyone forgives and forgets. Come on guys really? Are we all really that fickle? This is the manager that left us high and dry after stringing the board along and then jumping ship at the first opportunity. He couldn't even be arsed to learn English Sorry, but that is utter ********. He was asked clearly about his situation here before cortese was sacked, and he gave what turned out to be an honest reply to the effect that cortese was the man who had convinced him to join the saints project, and that if cortese left he would as well. He wasn't ambiguous about it. As for not bothering to speak English, I very much doubt that he speaks it any better now than he could while he was with us. He occasionally broke into English despite having an interpreter there, and clearly understood the questions being put to him before the interpreter translated them for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 19 May, 2016 Share Posted 19 May, 2016 Sorry, but that is utter ********. He was asked clearly about his situation here before cortese was sacked, and he gave what turned out to be an honest reply to the effect that cortese was the man who had convinced him to join the saints project, and that if cortese left he would as well. He wasn't ambiguous about it. As for not bothering to speak English, I very much doubt that he speaks it any better now than he could while he was with us. He occasionally broke into English despite having an interpreter there, and clearly understood the questions being put to him before the interpreter translated them for him. err yeah straight from the horses mouth "Eight months ago when this happened we were finishing my first season and I did say that if he left there would be no sense for me to stay. "The new situation is different. We are in the middle of our new project. Nicola knows of my decision to stay; I have spoken to him. I am fully committed to the staff, the players, the club and it would make no sense to leave in the middle of our path." http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/southampton/10577351/Mauricio-Pochettino-I-will-not-leave-Southampton.html Personally I have no problem with people moving on from saints but there is a right way and wrong way to do it. Leave my club with a bit of respect and no problem **** my club about and you can **** off. I will freely admit that the criteria for what constitutes ****ing my club around is purely my decision and other peoples mileage will vary but basically I will never have a very good opinion of Lovern, Lallana or Poch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 19 May, 2016 Share Posted 19 May, 2016 Sorry but this made me laugh! I agree with your sentiment though. omg grow up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 19 May, 2016 Share Posted 19 May, 2016 err yeah straight from the horses mouth "Eight months ago when this happened we were finishing my first season and I did say that if he left there would be no sense for me to stay. "The new situation is different. We are in the middle of our new project. Nicola knows of my decision to stay; I have spoken to him. I am fully committed to the staff, the players, the club and it would make no sense to leave in the middle of our path." http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/southampton/10577351/Mauricio-Pochettino-I-will-not-leave-Southampton.html Personally I have no problem with people moving on from saints but there is a right way and wrong way to do it. Leave my club with a bit of respect and no problem **** my club about and you can **** off. I will freely admit that the criteria for what constitutes ****ing my club around is purely my decision and other peoples mileage will vary but basically I will never have a very good opinion of Lovern, Lallana or Poch. Exactly how I feel about him, with the additional flack for taking Alderweireld and Mitchell too. Lambert was given a hero's welcome on his return at the testimonial because of the dignified way that he conducted himself when he left, whereas Lallana and Lovren have been rightly booed for the way that they left when they have subsequently played here. I suspect that although acknowledging that Poch did a good job here, most fans will nevertheless take a great deal of satisfaction whenever Spurs or Liverpool suffer any reverses in their fortunes in the near future. This attitude is tempered to a certain extent by the realisation that despite the changes of management and players, we have actually managed to raise our position in the PL once again. It is therefore arguable that this has been as a result of us recruiting better replacements both at managerial and player level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 19 May, 2016 Share Posted 19 May, 2016 I prefer Ron to be honest so am thankful that Poch left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donatello Posted 19 May, 2016 Share Posted 19 May, 2016 Sorry, but that is utter ********. He was asked clearly about his situation here before cortese was sacked, and he gave what turned out to be an honest reply to the effect that cortese was the man who had convinced him to join the saints project, and that if cortese left he would as well. He wasn't ambiguous about it. As for not bothering to speak English, I very much doubt that he speaks it any better now than he could while he was with us. He occasionally broke into English despite having an interpreter there, and clearly understood the questions being put to him before the interpreter translated them for him. Would you care to respond to doddisalegends's post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 19 May, 2016 Share Posted 19 May, 2016 One happy snap of Poch smiling at St. Mary's and everyone forgives and forgets. Come on guys really? Are we all really that fickle? This is the manager that left us high and dry after stringing the board along and then jumping ship at the first opportunity. He couldn't even be arsed to learn English at Saints but 1 week at Spurs and suddenly he's very capable. This is the manager of a club that likes to unsettle players via the press in the hope of turning their heads. A huge reason we dropped out of Europe so early was due to Wanyama not wanting to play following this. Imagine a CB pairing of Toby and Virgil? Not to be after more Spurs and Poch related underhand tactics. If it was up to me I wouldn't let anyone anywhere near the club with even a remote connection to Tottenham. Would you have preferred it that Poch proved to be a failure, we were relegated in his first year here and he was sacked, rather than that he left as a successful Saints manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 19 May, 2016 Share Posted 19 May, 2016 (edited) Would you care to respond to doddisalegends's post? I only recall the pochettino interview I mentioned, in which he clearly stated that if cortese left the club than he would as well. I don't recall the interview dodds quoted where pochettino recanted that, although I'm sure he will have quoted a later interview than I remember. It's possible that he may have wished to reassess his options after the cortese exit before deciding whether or not to stay here, all I'm saying is that his initial reaction was if cortese goes there's no point in me staying. I also notice that dodds doesn't refer to his assertion that pochettino didn't bother to learn English while here but suddenly became fluent in it within weeks of joining spurs, which is clearly nonsense. Edited 19 May, 2016 by scotty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 19 May, 2016 Share Posted 19 May, 2016 Oh, and on a side note, Katarina has particularly nice legs. Very shapely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stud mark of doom Posted 19 May, 2016 Share Posted 19 May, 2016 I only recall the pochettino interview I mentioned, in which he clearly stated that if cortese left the club than he would as well. I don't recall the interview dodds quoted where pochettino recanted that, although I'm sure he will have quoted a later interview than I remember. It's possible that he may have wished to reassess his options after the cortese exit before deciding whether or not to stay here, all I'm saying is that his initial reaction was if cortese goes there's no point in me staying. I also notice that dodds doesn't refer to his assertion that pochettino didn't bother to learn English while here but suddenly became fluent in it within weeks of joining spurs, which is clearly nonsense. I vaguely recall cortese had a word with him (after his own exit) and persuaded him not to leave mid season - may have got that wrong but my guess is the two quotes are before and after that chat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 19 May, 2016 Share Posted 19 May, 2016 I only recall the pochettino interview I mentioned, in which he clearly stated that if cortese left the club than he would as well. I don't recall the interview dodds quoted where pochettino recanted that, although I'm sure he will have quoted a later interview than I remember. It's possible that he may have wished to reassess his options after the cortese exit before deciding whether or not to stay here, all I'm saying is that his initial reaction was if cortese goes there's no point in me staying. I also notice that dodds doesn't refer to his assertion that pochettino didn't bother to learn English while here but suddenly became fluent in it within weeks of joining spurs, which is clearly nonsense. Because his speaking or not speaking English has nothing to do with anything expect a bit of xenophobia....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 19 May, 2016 Share Posted 19 May, 2016 What a shame that a great picture of Kat with past Saints promotion era managers enjoying Kelvin's ten year celebration should descend to nasty spats between sad warriors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted 19 May, 2016 Share Posted 19 May, 2016 One happy snap of Poch smiling at St. Mary's and everyone forgives and forgets. Come on guys really? Are we all really that fickle? This is the manager that left us high and dry after stringing the board along and then jumping ship at the first opportunity. He couldn't even be arsed to learn English at Saints but 1 week at Spurs and suddenly he's very capable. This is the manager of a club that likes to unsettle players via the press in the hope of turning their heads. A huge reason we dropped out of Europe so early was due to Wanyama not wanting to play following this. Imagine a CB pairing of Toby and Virgil? Not to be after more Spurs and Poch related underhand tactics. If it was up to me I wouldn't let anyone anywhere near the club with even a remote connection to Tottenham. in fairness, Levy is the real villain of spurs. Don't have much against pocchetino, he wants to be reunited with his best players from his saints days at his current club. that's a complement to the quality in our squad that he believed our players could be part of a top 3 club. he really headlined saints being an 'attractive football' club, which however much it was part of our philosophy (arguable), became quite obvious under poch. just ignorant to say he didn't arse himself to learn english. he always spoke english, but he played the media very well, forcing questions through his translator. every interviewer got tired so quickly of the drawn out interviews that they never got round to getting satisfying answers for transfer rumours, speculation or other tabloid nonsense. Don't think it is a problem at all the fact that he's now a bit more confident in english and has got used to the media, so talks to pundits in english. by the way he still makes a ton of mistakes in english interviews, not exactly fluent.. to be bitter about toby is insane. a player that was on loan went somewhere else, but was happy to stay. he wasn't 'ours' and quite frankly, I am very glad he went. Fonte and VVD have been fantastic, and however much you compare the two, you can't complain about Jose's season, not least his character, love for the club, leadership and ability. the reason we dropped out of europe had nothing to do with wanyama. we played a back 5 with caulker, yoshida, targett, an early-doors martina and ward-prowse on his off day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 19 May, 2016 Share Posted 19 May, 2016 I vaguely recall cortese had a word with him (after his own exit) and persuaded him not to leave mid season - may have got that wrong but my guess is the two quotes are before and after that chat. I think you're right. I don't recall the exact timescale, but pochettino definitely said he was leaving if cortese left, but wound up staying for the remainder of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 19 May, 2016 Share Posted 19 May, 2016 Back to the OP - nice picture and I am pleased to see there is no animosity with Poch at a professional level. I still think he is a great coach and wish him luck at Spurs. In my book they are less disgusting with him in charge but I still enjoyed us beating them the other week We are better off with Ron. For me though, a better picture on the night would be Kat with Ron, Nigel and Alan Pardew. That is current manager (Saints XI) and the two managers of the sides that took us from the foot of Div 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonicBoom Posted 19 May, 2016 Share Posted 19 May, 2016 Do you think this is the first time that Kat has ever had a conversation directly with MP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 19 May, 2016 Share Posted 19 May, 2016 SKD should be in the picture as a future SFC manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 19 May, 2016 Share Posted 19 May, 2016 What a shame that a great picture of Kat with past Saints promotion era managers enjoying Kelvin's ten year celebration should descend to nasty spats between sad warriors. ...and yes, that is a lovely picture of all of them. I liked the reaction between big ron and pochettino after the first game at whl when our fans gave him a real going over. Poch looked genuinely amused, much like in the photo on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 19 May, 2016 Share Posted 19 May, 2016 Great picture. Shame Pardew wasn't there too, he really helped set the foundation for the spectacular rise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 19 May, 2016 Share Posted 19 May, 2016 Why would anyone do that, pal? Because it looks a lot better without him in it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai27 Posted 19 May, 2016 Share Posted 19 May, 2016 Would you have preferred it that Poch proved to be a failure, we were relegated in his first year here and he was sacked, rather than that he left as a successful Saints manager? What an odd thing to ask. I'm questioning his integrity and morals, not his results as a manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 20 May, 2016 Share Posted 20 May, 2016 Three of the four managers in the Liebherr era at St Mary's last night for Kelvin Davis' testimonial... Saints under the Liebherr's... Pardew 2009/10 = 51st Adkins 2010/11 = 46th 2011/12 = 22nd Adkins/Pochettino 12/13 = 14th Pochettino 2013/14 = 8th Koeman 2014/15 = 7th 2015/16 = 6th It really is impressive stuff when you look at it like that. MLG got a question for you, I bought the new football manager recently. Just about to start a game with saints, Jay Rodriguez is only contracted till 2019 when I swear he signed a 5 year deal last season not 4? I'm shocked a pedant such as yourself could get this kind of information wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 20 May, 2016 Author Share Posted 20 May, 2016 MLG got a question for you, I bought the new football manager recently. Just about to start a game with saints, Jay Rodriguez is only contracted till 2019 when I swear he signed a 5 year deal last season not 4? I'm shocked a pedant such as yourself could get this kind of information wrong. MLG got a question for you, I bought the new football manager recently. Just about to start a game with saints, Jay Rodriguez is only contracted till 2019 when I swear he signed a 5 year deal last season not 4? I'm shocked a pedant such as yourself could get this kind of information wrong. You could have saved yourself the trouble by putting "Jay Rodriguez new contract" into Google. 12th May 2015 - Jay Rodriguez signs 4-year contract which take him to 30th June 2019 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/20150512-jay-rodriguez-contract-2453247.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 20 May, 2016 Share Posted 20 May, 2016 just ignorant to say he didn't arse himself to learn english. he always spoke english, but he played the media very well, forcing questions through his translator. every interviewer got tired so quickly of the drawn out interviews that they never got round to getting satisfying answers for transfer rumours, speculation or other tabloid nonsense. Don't think it is a problem at all the fact that he's now a bit more confident in english and has got used to the media, so talks to pundits in english. by the way he still makes a ton of mistakes in english interviews, not exactly fluent.. . I can confirm he did speak English, not the best, but enough for a brief chat about him previously taking Espanyol to Palafrugell and my attendance pre season, the night Saints played Llagostera pre season. Tony Jiminez (sp?) was on his shoulder though as his English was exceptional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 20 May, 2016 Share Posted 20 May, 2016 I can confirm he did speak English, not the best, but enough for a brief chat about him previously taking Espanyol to Palafrugell and my attendance pre season, the night Saints played Llagostera pre season. Tony Jiminez (sp?) was on his shoulder though as his English was exceptional. I remember clearly his first game, at home to Everton, 3 days after taking the job. Seconds before the kick-off he called Rickie over to him, by the dugout and spoke to him for several seconds with no translator in sight. To my knowledge, Rickie is not fluent in Spanish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 20 May, 2016 Share Posted 20 May, 2016 Great picture. Shame Pardew wasn't there too, he really helped set the foundation for the spectacular rise. Yep, and a great day out at Wembley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 20 May, 2016 Share Posted 20 May, 2016 Yep, and a great day out at Wembley Yes it was a great day. I was pleased for Markus that he at least had one big day at Wembley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 21 May, 2016 Share Posted 21 May, 2016 You could have saved yourself the trouble by putting "Jay Rodriguez new contract" into Google. 12th May 2015 - Jay Rodriguez signs 4-year contract which take him to 30th June 2019 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/20150512-jay-rodriguez-contract-2453247.aspx that I could, I swore he signed a 5 yr one! Maybe that's just because Clasie and VVD did. Didn't even bother checking I was that sure. Egg on face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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