JWP & his annual time to "kick on"

[ashnats]

He's rated by everyone who comes in to contact with him, apart from a handful of idiots on here who want him to immediately be the first usher article at 21.

 

Future Saints and England Captain imo.

 

agree. he will definitely get a full England cap or two before the next world cup, wouldn't surprise me if he plays in the next friendly or two.

[krissyboy31]

Will never play for the senior England team let alone captain them.

 

Don't agree with that! He probably won't be a regular and certainly not a captain but he will get his chance for England.

[Avenue_Saint]

How come no one ever comes in to buy HIM?

[Heisenberg]

How come no one ever comes in to buy HIM?

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-city-plotting-20million-move-5460335

 

Thankful he has a 6 year contract now

[vince]

He got two assists last night I believe, and Redmond another. I think he's better suited to the diamond than some of our other midfielders (e.g. Clasie).

 

I think we also scored from a header from another of his corners that got ruled out, as the ball went out of play first and swung back to between the 6 yard box and the penalty spot.

[trousers]

I think we also scored from a header from another of his corners that got ruled out, as the ball went out of play first and swung back to between the 6 yard box and the penalty spot.

Yep, it was only a whisker out of play, if that, IMO

[The9]

He's worth his place in the squad at the moment and the potential upside keeps him around, but he's always going to look better against a bunch of kids still learning their trade than a full team of experienced pros.

 

He does keep adding little bits to his game here and there, still one for the future, until he is either already there or isn't going to get there.

[OttawaSaint]

Looks like he's been working on getting extra swerve onto those deliveries. We are crying out for crosses like that rather than the floaty kind.

[Charlie Wayman]

There is a real enigma in JWP, he captains the E U21's to success yet rarely starts for his club and is high profile enough for other clubs to come sniffing around yet nobody has offered or been linked? I can't get my head around this, what's missing from all this logic that makes him less desirable as a commodity.

[Lord Duckhunter]

He's rated by everyone who comes in to contact with him, apart from a handful of idiots on here who want him to immediately be the first usher article at 21.

 

Future Saints and England Captain imo.

 

Poch & Ron rated him so highly they kept leaving him out .

 

Puel fell for the preseason BS and started him , but appears to have seen the light after one game .

 

There's more chance of going to the moon in a shoe box than him captaining England.

[Lord Duckhunter]

agree. he will definitely get a full England cap or two before the next world cup, wouldn't surprise me if he plays in the next friendly or two.

 

It would surprise me if he plays in our next game or two let alone England's .

 

Have people been drinking tonight or is the humidity affecting their brains ?

[way down south]

what's baffling about jwp isn't the fact that he isn't an all rounded footballer like the younger hoj already looks to be, maybe he's a jamie vardyesque late bloomer. will he do the blooming with us? is a question that'll be answered in due time. But what's most frustrating to me is if he can so accurately and perfectly place a ball on a teammate's head from set pieces, why can't he do the same and place it in the top corner on a regular basis? I mean that would've at least given him more value and time on the pitch while he works on anything more that he can offer the team.

[austsaint]

If the rules of Football permitted a player to be brought on to take attacking free kicks and corners, and then be immediately replaced, in the manner of American Football, then JWP would be hot property. There just isn't enough to the rest of his game, particularly in fast paced, high intensity matches in the Prem.

[Roger]

Can't believe people saying he will play for England etc and be captain. Not anywhere near good enough for us.

[The9]

There is a real enigma in JWP, he captains the E U21's to success yet rarely starts for his club and is high profile enough for other clubs to come sniffing around yet nobody has offered or been linked? I can't get my head around this, what's missing from all this logic that makes him less desirable as a commodity.

 

What's missing is considering who he appears impressive against - other kids.

[The9]

Can't believe people saying he will play for England etc and be captain. Not anywhere near good enough for us.

 

Good enough to get a few games here and there against less stellar opposition, he's in the twilight zone between write off and might come good. Gaston 2.0 but less dispensable.

[SonicBoom]

We seem to overlook the fact he's still only 21. Redmond has joined and I've seen many a post saying that Redmond has great potential and has plenty of time to develop into a really good player. Yet for some reason we don't give our own the same leeway.

The England set up obviously rate him and make him captain. The club obviously rate him and he gets game time. I wish our fans would cut him some slack, he's still a very young player and despite his experience he can still improve.

Would you rather we sold him at 21 only to see him flourish elsewhere and turn into a 30 million pound player?

[austsaint]

Sonic - the difference between someone like Redmond and JWP as I see it; or for that matter Ali; Dier: Barkley; Shaw, even Chambers; is that they all have readily identifiable attributes from a young age, natural talents that separate them form someone like Prowsey. Speed, box-to-box running; athleticism; one touch under pressure or the ability to create attacking threat and score goals from open play. Without these qualities which are usually apparent at 17,18,19 there's only so much improvement a player can make through hard work, physical development and maturity. To Prowsey's credit he has honed a pretty damn good dead ball delivery, but that aside it's the neat and tidy possession stuff which highlights his game - it's hard to see what else can come from him as he approaches his 22nd birthday.

[Dangermouth]

If you look at a lot of the tweets and comments about that game you'll notice a few things.

 

There are quite a number of Man U 'fans' and the like. Probably kids who spend all their time in front of a computer somewhere abroad. They wouldn't know what a real football looked like. They sensationalise to the nth degree. They 'hero-worship' the latest fad which changes every day, and so on.

 

Now I expect most on here have played footy quite a bit. Even at the lowest level on street corners you can see a lot of kids who will dribble well, can sell a dummy and a stepover, dragback etc (I don't know the names, you just do them if you're that kind of player don't you?) and even some who can pick a pass and fewer who can defend - because defence isn't 'sexy'. So having skill is part and parcel of football. JWP doesn't have the mentality or the physical ability to be a footballer - I think - and the simple direct comparison is PEH who does. One is a natural footballer who has it and is then developed and improved, one is the product of a lot of hard work and coaching but who doesn't seem to have a footballer's instinct - Wilshire is another player who has the instincts to a degree.

 

Another thing about the free/corner kicks is they lead to goals so they're replayed; the commentators make a fuss about them and the kids just repeat it and simply show they can't think for themselves - why else would they be Man U fanbois?

 

Yes, he patently does better for the U21s; he's effectively surrounded by the equivalent of Man City's first team or maybe even a Real Madrid and playing with a player who actually understands that you run into space is nice because when you pass it there you don't get some muppet asking what you're doing rather than your putting it into Row Z (thanks Hansen) but do remember in the last European tournament he started off playing and then played less - I believe he was actually captain and was dropped (...) - and as others say the game is far less physical. Look at the game against Watford where he was on the right and tried to tackle Capoue and just bounced off him; it really was a 'boys against men' situation. As Puel is good at developing younger players, however, let's see how he does at the end of the year. By then he's had 5 years and while he might still be a late bloomer as others have said he doesn't have any real skill (trained and over-practised kicks don't count and he doesn't do a huge amount for us with them) as he isn't like SRL (gifted and strong and talented) or Vardy (fast and actually does have a bit of skill) we should flog him with a decent sell on clause so that if he does turn good we get something for him. As well, by then, we should have the likes of Stephens really pushing on (he can play DM, but more as a playmaker), O'Connor who looks to have something about him - as does Barnes, but he'll take a bit longer I think - and others coming through and if some of them have the amount of opportunity JWP has I imagine they'll do better than him.

[Appy]

Can anyone remember a really good game he's had for us?

[VectisSaint]

If the rules of Football permitted a player to be brought on to take attacking free kicks and corners, and then be immediately replaced, in the manner of American Football, then JWP would be hot property. There just isn't enough to the rest of his game, particularly in fast paced, high intensity matches in the Prem.

This. His abilities when the ball is live are poor. Yes he has good dead ball skills (though even here his abilities are overrated), but he is slow, is not creative, cannot tackle and is too small to be effective in the air. None of these aspects are going to improve over time (unless he learns to be more creative with his passing, unlikely in my opinion). So the old excuse of he's only (17, 18, 19, 20, 21, etc etc) does not wash. Unfortunately he is not now and never will be an outstanding Premier League or England player, he will continue to earn a decent living in the PL either with a lower level team or as a bit part player with us.

 

It is nothing to do with us not cutting him any slack because he is a Saints player it is all to do with him not being the future great player that he is hyped up to be, and that people who watch him play week in week out can see, and our succession of managers see as well. The only time I can remember him playing really well was once maybe last season, or it could now be the season before when he partnered Vic in defensive midfield and he really did look quite promising. But it seems to have been a one-off experiment and he really has done virtually nothing during open play since to show that he is going to be a future star.

[Saint IQ]

Can anyone remember a really good game he's had for us?

 

His best performances for me is when he has come on at HT against a big team and we've won the game, Chelsea away comes to mind but I'm certain there were one or two others.

[Saint_Tony]

Can anyone remember a really good game he's had for us?

No, he's pretty limited apart from his dead ball delivery. Only good enough for Championship. You hear the cries 'he's only 21' but he has shown no signs of improvement in the last few seasons.

 

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[Mosin]

He may not be the fastest, but you name one person who puts you on the tip of your seat every time he steps over a dead ball.. every time JWP puts in a cross / takes a free kick at goal its mainly always spot on, Poor finishing from are forwards for years has hampered JWP, and if he only gets that striker who is deadly in front of goal he would be one of the top assist's in the league............ he dont dribble past players, but he takes up good posistions and closes down well and also has the ability if he gets a bit of space to put in a killer cross / pass and is deadly from set plays, i consider them quite valuable TBH, we dont have many players that can put the ball on a plate to be tapped into the net.

 

In a way he is just like beckham, give him a dead ball or a target to aim for in the box and 99.9 % of the time he will deliver in them situations. stick him in Uniteds team and he will be a star just like beckham was......... Imbra would love a JWP in that team whiping crossing into him.............. and i bet a top manager like Pep / Jose / sir alex would know how to set up the team to get the best out of him too, for the last few years due to are lack of deadly finishers managers have been reluctant to start him as he would have to cross it 1000 times for some one to finaly put it in the net. i would like to see Austin start with JWP on the right hand side of the diamond, set up for JWP to just look to find open space where he can so he can place that ball on top of Austins head.

 

Im always wishing JWP is on the pitch when we have a chance at goal from a free kick and corners he is just better than any one else in are team at them and is probs one of the best in the league at dead balls. Beckham's main ability was his dead balls and his long range passing / Crossing and he was considered a legend in the English game just for them reasons, why cant the same be for JWP? what else did beckham do for the team? he was slow? never beating his man always passing it back to Nevile then moving to find open space to find the time to make that pass, he did it for England, he did it constantly for United, but Beckhams overal play was not much better than JWP's, he just had lots of game time to prove he could do the things he ended up being a great for..........

[notnowcato]

If anyone can get the best out of James it's Puel...

 

 

Important couple of seasons for the lad. Good luck to him.

[Saint Garrett]

He was excellent when we played Norwich at home last year I think it was, maybe the year before....when Whittaker got sent off.

[Baird of the land]

Personally i think he's a perfectly capable squad player at the moment for us. Hopefully he'll kick on and be more than that.

[mrfahaji]

He may not be the fastest, but you name one person who puts you on the tip of your seat every time he steps over a dead ball.. every time JWP puts in a cross / takes a free kick at goal its mainly always spot on, Poor finishing from are forwards for years has hampered JWP, and if he only gets that striker who is deadly in front of goal he would be one of the top assist's in the league............ he dont dribble past players, but he takes up good posistions and closes down well and also has the ability if he gets a bit of space to put in a killer cross / pass and is deadly from set plays, i consider them quite valuable TBH, we dont have many players that can put the ball on a plate to be tapped into the net.

 

In a way he is just like beckham, give him a dead ball or a target to aim for in the box and 99.9 % of the time he will deliver in them situations. stick him in Uniteds team and he will be a star just like beckham was......... Imbra would love a JWP in that team whiping crossing into him.............. and i bet a top manager like Pep / Jose / sir alex would know how to set up the team to get the best out of him too, for the last few years due to are lack of deadly finishers managers have been reluctant to start him as he would have to cross it 1000 times for some one to finaly put it in the net. i would like to see Austin start with JWP on the right hand side of the diamond, set up for JWP to just look to find open space where he can so he can place that ball on top of Austins head.

 

Im always wishing JWP is on the pitch when we have a chance at goal from a free kick and corners he is just better than any one else in are team at them and is probs one of the best in the league at dead balls. Beckham's main ability was his dead balls and his long range passing / Crossing and he was considered a legend in the English game just for them reasons, why cant the same be for JWP? what else did beckham do for the team? he was slow? never beating his man always passing it back to Nevile then moving to find open space to find the time to make that pass, he did it for England, he did it constantly for United, but Beckhams overal play was not much better than JWP's, he just had lots of game time to prove he could do the things he ended up being a great for..........

 

Sorry Mosin, but I don't agree that he regularly puts in killer crosses or through balls. In fact, I have regularly been surprised by how poorly Ward-Prowse strikes a live ball considering how well he strikes a dead one. Not sure I'd go with 99.9%, but I agree with the general sentiment that he is good from free kicks and corners, and that in itself can be valuable.

 

If he could cross and pass in open play in the way you describe, he would be staking a stronger case for a starting berth. I hope we see more of that from him, and also a big improvement in his shooting - again, the disparity between his dead ball shooting (admittedly he hasn't score many FKs, but they are normally hit well) and those during open play is remarkable.

Edited 8 September, 2016 by mrfahaji

[way down south]

I always wanted to see him right midfield. Not in the winger sense, but someone who'll get crosses in, drift inside sometimes. Think he and Cedric could form a good understanding as Bertrand and Tadic have.

 

Think that's my main problem with the diamond, you lose those understandings and partnerships that have built up from experience. But hopefully on the right of the central 2 in the diamond he can do a job too.

 

Absolutely, this! If we insist that he's good enough for us then we need to be willing to try and get the best out of his limited abilities. I remember watching our game vs man u last season and being astounded by how effective he was playing on the right side and eventually one of his low, whipped in crosses led to pelle scoring. Also speaking of the diamond, I looked at Nice's midfield trio from last season and THEY WERE ALL under 5' 7"!!?

I mean WTF Does puel have something against decent sized footballers?! I mean I know you need mobile and technical players for a diamond trio, but do they have to be that small?

[suewhistle]

Well, after that bout of negativity let's hope it's a forerunner of his first goal in open play on Saturday... :-)

[notnowcato]

Absolutely, this! If we insist that he's good enough for us then we need to be willing to try and get the best out of his limited abilities. I remember watching our game vs man u last season and being astounded by how effective he was playing on the right side and eventually one of his low, whipped in crosses led to pelle scoring. Also speaking of the diamond, I looked at Nice's midfield trio from last season and THEY WERE ALL under 5' 7"!!?

I mean WTF Does puel have something against decent sized footballers?! I mean I know you need mobile and technical players for a diamond trio, but do they have to be that small?

 

Messi, Neymar and Suarez all under 6 foot, Messi and Neymar significantly so.

[doddisalegend]

Personally I'm not convinced by his free kicks how many of them have actually ended in a goal for Saints? One against westbrom iirc any others? It seems that JWPs free kicks rather flatter to deceive they look nice but rarely achieve anything.

[notnowcato]

Personally I'm not convinced by his free kicks how many of them have actually ended in a goal for Saints? One against westbrom iirc any others? It seems that JWPs free kicks rather flatter to deceive they look nice but rarely achieve anything.

 

The vast majority of corners or free kicks do not end in a goal, no matter if it's David Beckham or Harry Kane taking the kick.

 

There is nothing wrong with JWPs delivery.

[pgm94]

Still got faith that JWP will come good, he's a classy operator. But he does need to start influencing games more when he plays - he's probably not good enough if Saints are targeting top 6/8 but the European games may be a good chance for him to impress

[Lets B Avenue]

Yes, he patently does better for the U21s; he's effectively surrounded by the equivalent of Man City's first team or maybe even a Real Madrid and playing with a player who actually understands that you run into space is nice because when you pass it there you don't get some muppet asking what you're doing rather than your putting it into Row Z (thanks Hansen) but do remember in the last European tournament he started off playing and then played less - I believe he was actually captain and was dropped (...) .

 

I'm far from his biggest fan, but you are quite incorrect with this one. He and a few others were rested for the final group game, as they had already qualified for the final. He was brought back for the final and played the whole match.

 

By all means abuse him when he makes yet another pointless back pass, but don't make things up.

[Cheeky Monkey]

I can see in a few years time job turning into a Chris marsden type player. Playing in front of a fullback with pace who overlaps and then fills in and covers for them. a wise old head etc....

[Mosin]

Sorry Mosin, but I don't agree that he regularly puts in killer crosses or through balls. In fact, I have regularly been surprised by how poorly Ward-Prowse strikes a live ball considering how well he strikes a dead one. Not sure I'd go with 99.9%, but I agree with the general sentiment that he is good from free kicks and corners, and that in itself can be valuable.

 

If he could cross and pass in open play in the way you describe, he would be staking a stronger case for a starting berth. I hope we see more of that from him, and also a big improvement in his shooting - again, the disparity between his dead ball shooting (admittedly he hasn't score many FKs, but they are normally hit well) and those during open play is remarkable.

 

I know where your coming from and see what you mean about his open play passing, but that can be put down to lack of match fitness and sharpness, he dont play any where near as much as he should be doing, he shows for England under 21's after he has a couple of games how good he can be, he has fantastic passing ability and has shown for us some very nice long range passing as well as some perfectly weighted passes that other players waste by not putting it in the net. If he was played far more and managed to get full match fitness he is a very good player who has a great touch, great vision and the ability to hit 50 - 60 yard passes onto peoples feet. short video which shows how well he can play

 

Being on the right of a diamond would suit him

[Lord Duckhunter]

Just needs a run of games. The average fan doesn't appreciate how hard it is to get match sharpness without a run of at least 3 games. What's his record for consecutive games started? How has he played in the run of games? One for the stattos

 

Well he's started the first game of the season God knows how many times . Had he played ok, then surely he'd have stayed in and got these run of games you're on about.

[Lord Duckhunter]

I know where your coming from and see what you mean about his open play passing, but that can be put down to lack of match fitness and sharpness, he dont play any where near as much as he should be doing, he shows for England under 21's after he has a couple of games how good he can be, he has fantastic passing ability and has shown for us some very nice long range passing as well as some perfectly weighted passes that other players waste by not putting it in the net. If he was played far more and managed to get full match fitness he is a very good player who has a great touch, great vision and the ability to hit 50 - 60 yard passes onto peoples feet. short video which shows how well he can play

 

Being on the right of a diamond would suit him

 

Are you his mum ?

[Dangermouth]

I'm far from his biggest fan, but you are quite incorrect with this one. He and a few others were rested for the final group game, as they had already qualified for the final. He was brought back for the final and played the whole match.

 

By all means abuse him when he makes yet another pointless back pass, but don't make things up.

 

No.

 

You’re wrong.

 

Toulon is not the same as European. The clue is in the spelling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toulon_Tournament It’s an invitational tournament. As you can see the second-best team overall has been Brazil. Presumably they were only included when Brazil was in Europe … .

 

I’ll leave you to digest the reports and then agree with me that JWP didn’t play every game and, unless he changed nationality for the night, certainly didn’t play in the final. It does turn out Butland was captain at the time, however.

 

 

Links to European 2015 U21 Tournament Match Reports: England.

 

Portugal http://www.uefa.com/under21/season=2015/matches/round=2000408/match=2015368/index.html

 

Sweden http://www.uefa.com/under21/season=2015/matches/round=2000408/match=2015374/index.html

 

Italy http://www.uefa.com/under21/season=2015/matches/round=2000408/match=2015378/index.html

[doddisalegend]

The vast majority of corners or free kicks do not end in a goal, no matter if it's David Beckham or Harry Kane taking the kick.

 

There is nothing wrong with JWPs delivery.

 

Can't agree if you are going to style yourself a set piece specialist you need to be doing better than he is. No one is suggesting every dead ball should result in goal but he should certainly be offering more than one goal ...well just one goal ever from direct free kicks. He is hardly in the same class as Payet, Sigurdsson or even Lambert back in the day.

[notnowcato]

Can't agree if you are going to style yourself a set piece specialist you need to be doing better than he is. No one is suggesting every dead ball should result in goal but he should certainly be offering more than one goal ...well just one goal ever from direct free kicks. He is hardly in the same class as Payet, Sigurdsson or even Lambert back in the day.

 

Who is styling him as a dead ball specialist and who is comparing him to Payet or Rickie?? What were they doing when they were 21??

[Saint Billy]

Thanks for the advice,but.. nah i will carry on as I choose...

 

Ofcourse I suppose you have never evaluated a players performance on here seeing that you are the Mother Teresa of Saintsweb, but you sure as hell make up for it with your continuous attacks on fellow posters who see things differently to you

[Avenue_Saint]

I can see in a few years time job turning into a Chris marsden type player. Playing in front of a fullback with pace who overlaps and then fills in and covers for them. a wise old head etc....

 

He will never have the intensity of Marsden in a year of Sundays.

[Bailey]

I'd love to be proven wrong as he's young, English and a product of our Academy but for me, Prowsey isn't good enough. At present he's a good squad player at this level but nothing more. Aside from his set-pieces and his 'great work ethic', he doesn't offer enough. Too often he's a passenger in midfield and the team suffers as a result. Watch him closely the next time he plays and you'll see that he does a lot of running without ever getting close enough to his man to win the ball back. We're often overrun in midfield when he plays and for me, he doesn't have a big enough impact - when have you seen JWP take the game by the scruff of the neck? A perfect example was Watford on the opening day. Granted, no-one was particularly good in the first 45 but I recall Hojbjerg coming on and putting in a crunching tackle within 10 minutes of his introduction. He regained possession, carried the ball forward and looked to make things happen. I'm not necessarily saying that Prowsey should or will ever be as good as Hojbjerg, but they're similar ages and this is the level he needs to get to to become a regular, Premier League starter. There's a reason why JWP is one of the only Academy graduates still at the club and it's not just down to loyalty...

[Avenue_Saint]

I'd love to be proven wrong as he's young, English and a product of our Academy but for me, Prowsey isn't good enough. At present he's a good squad player at this level but nothing more. Aside from his set-pieces and his 'great work ethic', he doesn't offer enough. Too often he's a passenger in midfield and the team suffers as a result. Watch him closely the next time he plays and you'll see that he does a lot of running without ever getting close enough to his man to win the ball back. We're often overrun in midfield when he plays and for me, he doesn't have a big enough impact - when have you seen JWP take the game by the scruff of the neck? A perfect example was Watford on the opening day. Granted, no-one was particularly good in the first 45 but I recall Hojbjerg coming on and putting in a crunching tackle within 10 minutes of his introduction. He regained possession, carried the ball forward and looked to make things happen. I'm not necessarily saying that Prowsey should or will ever be as good as Hojbjerg, but they're similar ages and this is the level he needs to get to to become a regular, Premier League starter. There's a reason why JWP is one of the only Academy graduates still at the club and it's not just down to loyalty...

 

Agreed

[5string]

Have we not been saying these same things since he got into the 1st team?

 

Plenty of heart

Academy product, so follows the 'Southampton way'

Young, so has time on his side

Good set-play ball striker

Doesn't get enough goals, considering his set-play ability

Not strong enough in the tackle

Midfield weaker when he's on (I read "he's a passenger" on another thread)

 

Personally, I often feel he's a bit of a headless chicken when he's on. Don't misunderstand me, I like the abilities he has, he just seems to need a little extra 'something' to show he can be a real shoo-in.

 

After more than 100 appearances, has he had enough time to prove himself? Or does he need more time to develop his game to PL standard? I don't know what that 'something' needs to be, though (I'm not a PL manager).

[Monk]

Have we not been saying these same things since he got into the 1st team?

 

Plenty of heart

Academy product, so follows the 'Southampton way'

Young, so has time on his side

Good set-play ball striker

Doesn't get enough goals, considering his set-play ability

Not strong enough in the tackle

Midfield weaker when he's on (I read "he's a passenger" on another thread)

 

Personally, I often feel he's a bit of a headless chicken when he's on. Don't misunderstand me, I like the abilities he has, he just seems to need a little extra 'something' to show he can be a real shoo-in.

 

After more than 100 appearances, has he had enough time to prove himself? Or does he need more time to develop his game to PL standard? I don't know what that 'something' needs to be, though (I'm not a PL manager).

 

As with Reed, would benefit from a years loan in the Championship. (Obviously won't happen).

[Convict Colony]

JWP needs to find a sport where dead ball skills (not goals as he has hardly any for the amount of free kicks he takes) are rated highly.

 

Maybe he should transition into a punter for American Football.

[jawillwill]

On 12/05/2016 at 16:24, Ice2Eskimos said:

 

You're f'ng dreaming.

 

Deli Alli?....he's nowhere near and never will be.

 

There honestly isn't another player in that age bracket who even touches Alli.

 

The guy is on another planet altogether..he's something else from anything we've seen since Gazza..

 

JWP?..not a million years.

You're probably right. 🤪