Professor Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 Southampton have managed to creep into 6th place. Luckily for them, the two teams below them, West Ham and Liverpool have difficult fixtures against against Man U and Chelsea so its possible Southampton might hang on to that position until the final games next weekend through no effort of their own. But that's not the only luck Southampton have had to get into the top six. They have also met several of the big teams on days when those teams have just not been playing very well. The media have made it clear after every unexpected Southampton victory, that the outcome was not due to the winning team being a good side playing well, but was due to the losing sides, Chelsea, Arsenal, Man U, Liverpool, Man City and Tottenham, etc., having an off-day. Only yesterday for example, Tottenham were struggling at the end of a hard season and were wilting in the hot May weather. Southampton were fortunate not to be dealing with the same conditions. The media know what their viewers, readers and listeners want - they want the same 5 or 6 Big Clubs to compete for the top four each year and for little clubs to know their place. If that fails to happen, given all the hard-earned millions spent by the Big Club owners any divergence from the norm can only be down to luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 Over one game it might be down to luck but over 38 games it loses all significance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Biscuits Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 Zlatan makes his own luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 Agree with WG. It's not luck. Just like it is asinine for Pellegrini to say Man C deserve to be in CL because they spent all season in the top 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Biscuits Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 Out of puppies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattio Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 4/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 Tottenham were struggling at the end of a hard season and were wilting in the hot May weather. Southampton were fortunate not to be dealing with the same conditions. I'm pretty sure the weather was fairly similar at either goalmouth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonraker Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 We may have been lucky but this has been the weakest ever season in PL history. The necessary rebuilding of all of the big six, adjusting to a new manager, distracted by European football, the horrendous injuries to their key players and the need for the £50m plus stars to adapt to the hardest league in the world what chance did they have? It has been heart-rending to watch pundits and commentators desperately trying to find explanations for yet another shock, it is incredible that such magnificent teams can so consistently underperform against the likes of Leicester, Southampton and West Spam these teams have somehow managed to capitalise on so many under-par performances. Fortunately normality will return next season and we can all go back to knowing our place (8th – 20th). I am only thankful I was here to see the supporting acts do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davesaint Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 Great sarcasm but absolutely spot on! Only thing is we have done it consistently for the last three years. All this luck is going to end soon..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 Well we might have been 'lucky', but not half as lucky as Leicester, who have had the most luck ever ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 Good luck, bad luck, good form, poor form. Every team in every division goes through all of this all of the time. It is what makes the league so interesting. To win the FA Cup you only need to maintain good form/good luck over a handful of matches. Over the season you have to do it as much as possible over 38 matches. Leicester deserve their title but were lucky in that the top 4 have not been that great this season and their only real opponents have been Spuds who, to a lesser extent, have had a much better season than expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 Southampton have managed to creep into 6th place. Luckily for them, the two teams below them, West Ham and Liverpool have difficult fixtures against against Man U and Chelsea so its possible Southampton might hang on to that position until the final games next weekend through no effort of their own. But that's not the only luck Southampton have had to get into the top six. They have also met several of the big teams on days when those teams have just not been playing very well. The media have made it clear after every unexpected Southampton victory, that the outcome was not due to the winning team being a good side playing well, but was due to the losing sides, Chelsea, Arsenal, Man U, Liverpool, Man City and Tottenham, etc., having an off-day. Only yesterday for example, Tottenham were struggling at the end of a hard season and were wilting in the hot May weather. Southampton were fortunate not to be dealing with the same conditions. The media know what their viewers, readers and listeners want - they want the same 5 or 6 Big Clubs to compete for the top four each year and for little clubs to know their place. If that fails to happen, given all the hard-earned millions spent by the Big Club owners any divergence from the norm can only be down to luck. Absolute nonsense, there's nothing the media love more than a decent underdog story. Find one credible media source which claims the achievements of Saints or Leicester have been down to luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 Well we might have been 'lucky', but not half as lucky as Leicester, who have had the most luck ever ! They have had the referees on their side lately. That often helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 what a load of bo**ocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 Absolute nonsense, there's nothing the media love more than a decent underdog story. Find one credible media source which claims the achievements of Saints or Leicester have been down to luck. Certainly not just down to luck, but their low number of injuries has played a major part of their success. http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/leicester-have-been-the-luckiest-team-with-injuries-this-season-a6999741.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 Congratulations to pretty much everyone on this thread for missing the flashing neon signs saying SARCASM next to the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 Congratulations to pretty much everyone on this thread for missing the flashing neon signs saying SARCASM next to the OP. I get that he is being sarcastic I'm just not entirely sure what point he is trying to make. I think he's suggesting that the media think the success of Saints and Leicester is down to luck and is sarcastically mocking this suggestion, unless I have misunderstood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 Congratulations to pretty much everyone on this thread for missing the flashing neon signs saying SARCASM next to the OP. You would think so, though with his previous, there's always a question mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 Even though I was only skim reading, I'm a bit ashamed that it took me until "Southampton were fortunate not to be dealing with the same conditions" before I clocked... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 Congratulations to pretty much everyone on this thread for missing the flashing neon signs saying SARCASM next to the OP. To make what point? The perennial "The media don't want small clubs to do well" theory has been smashed into the dust over the last few months, especially the last two weeks, and no one anywhere has said Leicester have only won the league through luck and ditto Saints in sixth. The only thing sarcastic about our Prof is his username. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 This thread is funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 It's a bit of fun. ? A few years ago every goal was gifted to us by the opposition according to their manager's. Sent from my E6853 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 Zlatan makes his own luck There is no good luck or bad luck..... There is just Zlatan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 We score a lot of soft goals. Really need to harden them up if we're to make top 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjosaint Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 Well according to the Sun article on spurs game not sure if it was steven howard, but reading between lines we only won because of Jon Moss had a bad game, the same Jon Moss who tried to derail leicesters charge, what a **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 Well according to the Sun article on spurs game not sure if it was steven howard, but reading between lines we only won because of Jon Moss had a bad game, the same Jon Moss who tried to derail leicesters charge, what a **** Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 The media know what their viewers, readers and listeners want - they want the same 5 or 6 Big Clubs to compete for the top four each year and for little clubs to know their place. This is paranoid garbage and always has been. Media want unpredictable things to happen - Leicester's victory has had executives dancing. They report on the big clubs the most because they are most popular, but they don't want them to win. It's also true, to some extent, that we've come across the top teams at good times. Arsenal, Chelsea, City and Spurs were all poor in our wins against them, and not strictly because we made them. Only the 0-0 at Arsenal stands out as a result against a firing team, plus the Old Trafford victory in some ways. PS luck plays a big part in all sport, from specific goals, tackles and games to sometimes entire seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 Southampton have managed to creep into 6th place. Luckily for them, the two teams below them, West Ham and Liverpool have difficult fixtures against against Man U and Chelsea so its possible Southampton might hang on to that position until the final games next weekend through no effort of their own. But that's not the only luck Southampton have had to get into the top six. They have also met several of the big teams on days when those teams have just not been playing very well. The media have made it clear after every unexpected Southampton victory, that the outcome was not due to the winning team being a good side playing well, but was due to the losing sides, Chelsea, Arsenal, Man U, Liverpool, Man City and Tottenham, etc., having an off-day. Only yesterday for example, Tottenham were struggling at the end of a hard season and were wilting in the hot May weather. Southampton were fortunate not to be dealing with the same conditions. The media know what their viewers, readers and listeners want - they want the same 5 or 6 Big Clubs to compete for the top four each year and for little clubs to know their place. If that fails to happen, given all the hard-earned millions spent by the Big Club owners any divergence from the norm can only be down to luck. Who was it said that the harder you work the luckier you get? I suspect that the "Big" clubs didn't work hard enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 10 May, 2016 Share Posted 10 May, 2016 Congratulations to pretty much everyone on this thread for missing the flashing neon signs saying SARCASM next to the OP. I appreciate the congratulations. It is not often that such well deserved compliments are offered on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 10 May, 2016 Share Posted 10 May, 2016 We score a lot of soft goals. Really need to harden them up if we're to make top 4. I think our problem is the soft goals we missed scoring. Next year maybe we will be lucky enough to make them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 10 May, 2016 Share Posted 10 May, 2016 Only the 0-0 at Arsenal stands out as a result against a firing team, plus the Old Trafford victory in some ways. Prior to the 4-0 demolition of Arsenal at home they had won last 4 games. We had drawn one of our last 6. Don't know why you seem to want to take away credit. None if big teams have consistently 'fired' hence Leicester are 10 pts clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 10 May, 2016 Share Posted 10 May, 2016 I think our main problem is that in quite a few matches we've conceded more than we've scored. Turn that around and I reckon we can do a Leicester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 10 May, 2016 Share Posted 10 May, 2016 Prior to the 4-0 demolition of Arsenal at home they had won last 4 games. We had drawn one of our last 6. Don't know why you seem to want to take away credit. None if big teams have consistently 'fired' hence Leicester are 10 pts clear. Arsenal were woeful in that game though, and not really because we forced them to be. The form book was thrown out by both sides. It was a great performance but would more likely have been a one or two goal win had Arsenal shown up. You're right that the big teams have been inconsistent, but we've been in the right place to capitalise. It doesn't take away from what have been the best moments of our season, I just reject the suggestion luck's nothing to do with it when it's actually at the centre of pretty much every football match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 10 May, 2016 Share Posted 10 May, 2016 One of the luckiest sides I've watched this season has been Man.U. Some really brain-numbing football with few chances, yet they have still won games. At least we tried to play football, but a lot of blame has been noted to our loss of points in games against lower-placed sides. Defeats in games v. Everton, Stoke, and Norwich, and a stat. that shows we lost 8 games of 11, despite superior % possession. Games we drew despite vastly superior possession. In 6 of 9 drawn games, we had considerably more shots on goal, yet failed to score enough to win. but most surprisingly stats. that show we actually won 11 of 17 games .....with considerably less % ball possession...and less shots on goal. A lot goes down to other factors like; lack of consistancy, Double-digit goal droughts by Mane and Pelle, and 10 games without Wanyama through suspensions. Yes - we started the season without Bertrand for 6 games, but don't blame Targett too much. We conceded 8 goals with Targett at LB, but 9 after Bertrand returned. Don't blame the keeper(s) ....I'm about to start a thread about a new keeper. At the end of the day....(or the season) the truth is ..you need to make your own luck ...and occasionally hope for a half-blind / unsighted referee. There was an interesting quote (from Lawrie McMenemy in interview a few years back), when asked to analyse the season..he said .... ...." Some games you play well ....and win. Some games you can play well...yet lose. There are games where you play badly and lose....and others where you can play badly ..yet still win.....". Simple logic , but very profound anyway. My favourite quote (about luck) comes from " All the Presidents Men ". Ben Bradlee (Jason Robards) questions why his reporters haven't come up with the story... " We haven't had any luck,".. they respond.......His reply was ..." get some " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 10 May, 2016 Share Posted 10 May, 2016 Villa have been very unlucky this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 10 May, 2016 Share Posted 10 May, 2016 Southampton have managed to creep into 6th place. Luckily for them, the two teams below them, West Ham and Liverpool have difficult fixtures against against Man U and Chelsea so its possible Southampton might hang on to that position until the final games next weekend through no effort of their own. But that's not the only luck Southampton have had to get into the top six. They have also met several of the big teams on days when those teams have just not been playing very well. The media have made it clear after every unexpected Southampton victory, that the outcome was not due to the winning team being a good side playing well, but was due to the losing sides, Chelsea, Arsenal, Man U, Liverpool, Man City and Tottenham, etc., having an off-day. Only yesterday for example, Tottenham were struggling at the end of a hard season and were wilting in the hot May weather. Southampton were fortunate not to be dealing with the same conditions. The media know what their viewers, readers and listeners want - they want the same 5 or 6 Big Clubs to compete for the top four each year and for little clubs to know their place. If that fails to happen, given all the hard-earned millions spent by the Big Club owners any divergence from the norm can only be down to luck. Some of the BBC website reporting has been mind-boggling over the course of this season, latterly with Southampton's 'faint hopes for a Europa place' juxtaposed with Liverpool's 'surge for the Champions League' for instance - I kid you not! It would be lovely to think that we are entering a period of change where, like the seventies and early eighties, the provincial clubs can upset the apple cart and give the worthies bloody noses every season. It would take several seasons of Saints, Leicester, West Ham and one or two others finishing top six and picking up silverware to bring real change about. Perception is telling, and a friend who is a good lad, Spurs fan, said to me innocently and frankly yesterday 'you will do well to keep hold of Koeman this close season'. I agreed, he's right, but when I pointed out that Spurs would do well to keep Pochettino from Man U and PSG the atmosphere changed as I'd clearly touched a nerve. Saints firstly need to arrest this perception that we are a selling club, doing 'amazingly well considering they sell their best players each year' (see MOTD weekly for this cliche). Secondly, we need to win something, League Cup, FA Cup, whatever to put 1976 to bed and show both players and the media that you can win things at the club. It's certainly going to be an interesting media watch this close season, with Leicester as well as West Ham, and perhaps Spurs having to resist approaches for their stars. I hope the 'new plan' mooted by the in the know posters, is one of resistance, consolidation, and longevity. Great time to be a Saints fan, and it may yet get better - b*llocks to the press! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 10 May, 2016 Share Posted 10 May, 2016 The idea of 'luck' in football is a strange one. David in sweden above says Man Utd have been lucky because they have played dull football and won. That doesn't make them lucky, it makes them boring. If a team has 30 shots on goal and doesn't score, then maybe their dreadful finishing doesn't merit winning a game of football. Or perhaps the opposition goalkeeper put in such an immense performance that he deserved to be on the winning side more than any other player. Don't get me wrong, I share the same frustration and have blurted out "oh my god they're so bloody lucky!" many times, Lambert's Villa beating us 3-2 at St Mary's springs to mind more than any other! But even on this occasion, I think there is a difference between deserving a win and being technically lucky in getting it. The only obvious times of genuine bad luck that I can think of is when refereeing decisions cost you goals and games. Because that really is a factor outside a team's control (allowing for the "don't give the ref a decision to make" argument). Possibly deflections etc, but even that is only tinged with luck as presumably the deflection has come from a shot or a cross in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 10 May, 2016 Share Posted 10 May, 2016 ^ Poch seemed to use that argument (being unlucky) when he trotted out that they had 70% possession and that we only had 2 shots on goal which we scored and won the game from. It is a fairly non-sensical argument as it doesn't take into account the way we set ourselves up to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 10 May, 2016 Share Posted 10 May, 2016 Some of the BBC website reporting has been mind-boggling over the course of this season, latterly with Southampton's 'faint hopes for a Europa place' juxtaposed with Liverpool's 'surge for the Champions League' for instance - I kid you not! It would be lovely to think that we are entering a period of change where, like the seventies and early eighties, the provincial clubs can upset the apple cart and give the worthies bloody noses every season. It would take several seasons of Saints, Leicester, West Ham and one or two others finishing top six and picking up silverware to bring real change about. Perception is telling, and a friend who is a good lad, Spurs fan, said to me innocently and frankly yesterday 'you will do well to keep hold of Koeman this close season'. I agreed, he's right, but when I pointed out that Spurs would do well to keep Pochettino from Man U and PSG the atmosphere changed as I'd clearly touched a nerve. Saints firstly need to arrest this perception that we are a selling club, doing 'amazingly well considering they sell their best players each year' (see MOTD weekly for this cliche). Secondly, we need to win something, League Cup, FA Cup, whatever to put 1976 to bed and show both players and the media that you can win things at the club. It's certainly going to be an interesting media watch this close season, with Leicester as well as West Ham, and perhaps Spurs having to resist approaches for their stars. I hope the 'new plan' mooted by the in the know posters, is one of resistance, consolidation, and longevity. Great time to be a Saints fan, and it may yet get better - b*llocks to the press! Google search for "Liverpool Surge [to] Champions League": https://news.google.com/news/story?ncl=dJd1xfRf98Q-y0M7UUOIPJLyUfY6M&q=liverpool+surge+champions+league&lr=English&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiblN3jsM_MAhVhMZoKHVhAAIwQqgIIHzAA Google search for "Southampton Faint Hopes for Europa League": https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=southampton+faint+hope+europa+league&oq=southampton+faint+hope+europa+league&aqs=chrome..69i57.488j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8#q=southampton+faint+hope+europa+league&tbm=nws Spoiler alert = nothing to see here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobraBLACK Posted 10 May, 2016 Share Posted 10 May, 2016 Everything I've seen/heard in the media about our game at the weekend barely mentioned Southampton. They mostly talked about Spurs after a long, tiring season. Well look, ours was too and we've improved after short periods of underperformance. The only thing lucky about our win was that Davis scored two goals: a) They both could have been saved (first was close to body (Lloris should have used his leg), second there was a noticeable delay between the ball appearing through the crowd and Lloris reacting), and b) Davis scored, and c) he scored two! It's true that the big clubs played a huge part in Leicester's win (I doubt they'd take comfort in the 'assist' though) - Chelsea, Man Utd, Man City and Arsenal all had poor/terrible seasons and Leicester had the talent and balls to capitalise. We've seen seasons recently where teams have practically conceded the title to another contender for one reason or another (Man Utd to Man City, Liverpool to Man City, Arsenal to everyone) so huge credit has to go to Leicester for staying in contention, then snatching first place and holding on for so long. It certainly makes us think about our club's position. Think of the times we should have won games when we didn't and what a difference those points would have made (I'm thinking about the 2-goal lead against Leicester we relinquished, the home draw with Villa, losing to Norwich and Bournemouth). We certainly could have made the top four this season and, despite the big teams' potential improvement next season, they won't all be better (Man Utd if they keep LvG, Arsenal with Wenger) so that is a realistic ambition. Whether we keep sixth place or not, it's been another good season overall and it's time for the club to show their ambition, keep our best players and invest in some improvements to convince Ronald to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 10 May, 2016 Share Posted 10 May, 2016 Southampton have managed to creep into 6th place. Luckily for them, the two teams below them, West Ham and Liverpool have difficult fixtures against against Man U and Chelsea so its possible Southampton might hang on to that position until the final games next weekend through no effort of their own. But that's not the only luck Southampton have had to get into the top six. They have also met several of the big teams on days when those teams have just not been playing very well. The media have made it clear after every unexpected Southampton victory, that the outcome was not due to the winning team being a good side playing well, but was due to the losing sides, Chelsea, Arsenal, Man U, Liverpool, Man City and Tottenham, etc., having an off-day. Only yesterday for example, Tottenham were struggling at the end of a hard season and were wilting in the hot May weather. Southampton were fortunate not to be dealing with the same conditions. The media know what their viewers, readers and listeners want - they want the same 5 or 6 Big Clubs to compete for the top four each year and for little clubs to know their place. If that fails to happen, given all the hard-earned millions spent by the Big Club owners any divergence from the norm can only be down to luck. Put your chip away, it is incredibly embarrassing. Saints have been getting loads of plaudits this year and if anything our lack of hype is because people associate us with our position and performances...Where as west ham and Leicester have over achieved in the media's eyes.... Seriously dell sized mentality on display here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfp1 Posted 10 May, 2016 Share Posted 10 May, 2016 I'm pretty sure the weather was fairly similar at either goalmouth... This was my favourite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 10 May, 2016 Share Posted 10 May, 2016 Everything I've seen/heard in the media about our game at the weekend barely mentioned Southampton. They mostly talked about Spurs after a long, tiring season. Well look, ours was too and we've improved after short periods of underperformance. The only thing lucky about our win was that Davis scored two goals: a) They both could have been saved (first was close to body (Lloris should have used his leg), second there was a noticeable delay between the ball appearing through the crowd and Lloris reacting), and b) Davis scored, and c) he scored two!. interesting comment from Thierry Henry (no less) on the aftermatch comments... .....saying " perhaps it's the first time he's scored twice in a match, because it's the first time Koeman had played him so far forward" (behind the strikers). Had to agree that many of poor shots he's made during the season were from long distance - outside of the box and up into Row Z. I think all his four goals this season, were inside the penalty area, or even inside the 6 yard box ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 10 May, 2016 Share Posted 10 May, 2016 interesting comment from Thierry Henry (no less) on the aftermatch comments... .....saying " perhaps it's the first time he's scored twice in a match, because it's the first time Koeman had played him so far forward" (behind the strikers). Had to agree that many of poor shots he's made during the season were from long distance - outside of the box and up into Row Z. I think all his four goals this season, were inside the penalty area, or even inside the 6 yard box ? Chelsea away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 10 May, 2016 Share Posted 10 May, 2016 Chelsea away? just watched the goals again on You Tube. Davis had a foot inside the box, when he made his shot. I don't mean to argue the point, but the other three were closer in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 10 May, 2016 Share Posted 10 May, 2016 interesting comment from Thierry Henry (no less) on the aftermatch comments... .....saying " perhaps it's the first time he's scored twice in a match, because it's the first time Koeman had played him so far forward" (behind the strikers). Had to agree that many of poor shots he's made during the season were from long distance - outside of the box and up into Row Z. I think all his four goals this season, were inside the penalty area, or even inside the 6 yard box ? Worth mentioning too that neither of his goals on Sunday were particularly great shots - keeper would be very disappointed with both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 May, 2016 Share Posted 10 May, 2016 Football is shed loads of luck mixed in with a load of incredible athletes trying to maintain a particular level of skill. Fixture scheduling isn't really luck though. As for Professor I have no idea what he's trying to do or say as a general rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 May, 2016 Share Posted 10 May, 2016 just watched the goals again on You Tube. Davis had a foot inside the box, when he made his shot. I don't mean to argue the point, but the other three were closer in. Davis had a foot inside the D for the goal against Chelsea, which is by definition outside the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 12 May, 2016 Share Posted 12 May, 2016 Worth mentioning too that neither of his goals on Sunday were particularly great shots - keeper would be very disappointed with both. just be grateful that they both went in...... and that they counted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 12 May, 2016 Share Posted 12 May, 2016 Davis had a foot inside the D for the goal against Chelsea, which is by definition outside the box. be right if you want to..... my point was .......that he hadn't hit the back row of the stand with potshots taken from 40 yards out...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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