Pilchards Posted 7 May, 2016 Posted 7 May, 2016 If Koeman did make it clear to Reed that he was not going to commit to a new contract, would it be better to get someone in this summer? After reading Guan's comments on taking a new direction? Could that be stability with someone like Howe or a new direction to push even higher up the league? Pellegrini or Jose? Whats your thoughts?
saint77 Posted 7 May, 2016 Posted 7 May, 2016 If Koeman doesn't extend I would look to replace however I'm confident he will extend
SuperSAINT Posted 7 May, 2016 Posted 7 May, 2016 I would assume that this "new direction" is part of the "5 year plan" we've heard about. I believe Ron has discussed this 5 year plan with the board. Maybe it's to focus on bringing through young players? Maybe it's more investment? Who knows. Time will tell.
Suhari Posted 7 May, 2016 Posted 7 May, 2016 Is interesting: the 'new direction' comment. We need some K.Billy input!! Let's add in the Zlatan rumour, and speculate........!!
angelman Posted 7 May, 2016 Posted 7 May, 2016 Has the 5 year plan somewhat changed with LCFC doing what they have done? Or is that just seen as a one off not to be repeated for a generation? As for the OP, I did raise this question on another thread. If RK isn't signing up for the 5 year plan, might it not be best to get someone who will commit to it? RK is 53 so he has time, presuming he wants to carry on managing into his 60s. Certainly he and his brother have a comfortable job offer, but it depends whether he wants to go to the top as being pragmatic, the top is not where we are likely to be.
doddisalegend Posted 7 May, 2016 Posted 7 May, 2016 Has the 5 year plan somewhat changed with LCFC doing what they have done? Or is that just seen as a one off not to be repeated for a generation? As for the OP, I did raise this question on another thread. If RK isn't signing up for the 5 year plan, might it not be best to get someone who will commit to it? RK is 53 so he has time, presuming he wants to carry on managing into his 60s. Certainly he and his brother have a comfortable job offer, but it depends whether he wants to go to the top as being pragmatic, the top is not where we are likely to be. Not sure Leicester had a plan to copy I think they are surprised as anyone how things turned out.
doddisalegend Posted 7 May, 2016 Posted 7 May, 2016 new direction is Brendan Rogers. Heard it here first The new direction is to buy a load of players from the team that finish 8th this season?
Batman Posted 7 May, 2016 Posted 7 May, 2016 The new direction is to buy a load of players from the team that finish 8th this season? dont think he was the 1-man transfer committee at Liverpool
ToreSF Posted 7 May, 2016 Posted 7 May, 2016 Definitely think we should look at different options if Koeman doesn't want to renew his contract this summer. Howe is a bit of a risk, but also a very exciting, young manager, who seems to get on well with his players. Might recreate some of the team spirit we had under Pochettino.
Appy Posted 7 May, 2016 Posted 7 May, 2016 new direction is Brendan Rogers. Heard it here first Well that's that then, the ITK has spoken.
Pamplemousse Posted 7 May, 2016 Posted 7 May, 2016 Not Howe. He is a skate. Mourinho would be interesting but he's never stuck around at clubs for very long. Pellegrini has said that he is happy to stay in the Premier League, and I think he'd be a good choice for us.
the saint in winchester Posted 7 May, 2016 Posted 7 May, 2016 Definitely think we should look at different options if Koeman doesn't want to renew his contract this summer. Howe is a bit of a risk, but also a very exciting, young manager, who seems to get on well with his players. Might recreate some of the team spirit we had under Pochettino. Disagree completely. Let Koeman complete his contract next season even if he makes it clear he won't renew. In a year's time we recruit a new manager. No need to sack him now because he has ambition to manage another club after us.
Pilchards Posted 8 May, 2016 Author Posted 8 May, 2016 Disagree completely. Let Koeman complete his contract next season even if he makes it clear he won't renew. In a year's time we recruit a new manager. No need to sack him now because he has ambition to manage another club after us. We lost a few players because pottychino was always going at the end of the season when he did. No way would Lallana, Chambers and Shaw wanted out like they did if he was committed. That same situation may happen next season If they know Koeman is not committed himself.
ericofarabia Posted 8 May, 2016 Posted 8 May, 2016 Koeman is an honourable man. A contract is a 2 way thing. He has always maintained he'd see out his contract, shouldn't the club honour it as well? Praying he will sign up as soon as possible after the end of season discussions and put this all to bed. Getting him to commit is key to getting others to commit as well and also attract quality new players. I'm fed up with the annual close season squabbling and rumours, despite things generally working out for the best!!
Mr Biscuits Posted 8 May, 2016 Posted 8 May, 2016 new direction is Brendan Rogers. Heard it here first Hmmm..... Brendan Rogers AND Zlatan? The League is ours..... THE LEAGUE IS OURS I SAY!!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Badger Posted 8 May, 2016 Posted 8 May, 2016 Koeman is an honourable man. A contract is a 2 way thing. He has always maintained he'd see out his contract, shouldn't the club honour it as well? Praying he will sign up as soon as possible after the end of season discussions and put this all to bed. Getting him to commit is key to getting others to commit as well and also attract quality new players. I'm fed up with the annual close season squabbling and rumours, despite things generally working out for the best!! Leaves the club in a dilemna doesn't it ? We can't look to complain when a manager or player looks to break a contract and leave mid-term, then offer three year contracts without honouring them, especially when results are going well. Perhaps the equitable solution is for RK to "extend" with a one/two year extension, (as announced to the wider world), but with a break clause at the end of the season (possibly by gentleman's agreement) to enable him to leave in 12 months. At the very least it might put to rest the incessant media speculation undermining our season. It wouldn't be summer without the drama and speculation though.
pangy Posted 8 May, 2016 Posted 8 May, 2016 Howe is in no way a upgrade on Poch or Koeman,its not even a side step it is a step backwards imo.if we look to replace there is no reason we cant aim higher the previous 2,the draw of the premier league is huge and there are top european managers that would love to manage a team like ours
ToreSF Posted 8 May, 2016 Posted 8 May, 2016 Koeman is an honourable man. A contract is a 2 way thing. He has always maintained he'd see out his contract, shouldn't the club honour it as well? Praying he will sign up as soon as possible after the end of season discussions and put this all to bed. Getting him to commit is key to getting others to commit as well and also attract quality new players. I'm fed up with the annual close season squabbling and rumours, despite things generally working out for the best!! Club has to do whats in the clubs interest. If Koeman doesn't want to renew his contract, and our target to replace him (i.e. Howe) is available this summer, we should make our move to replace him.
ToreSF Posted 8 May, 2016 Posted 8 May, 2016 Remember how Poch was sacked by Espanyol before he came here.
david in sweden Posted 8 May, 2016 Posted 8 May, 2016 Disagree completely. Let Koeman complete his contract next season even if he makes it clear he won't renew. In a year's time we recruit a new manager. No need to sack him now because he has ambition to manage another club after us. Good reasoning. It's not like losing a valuable player (moneywise) but getting to Europa League (please God) and an even better showing in the Prem....RK may well decide to stay anyway.
Baird of the land Posted 8 May, 2016 Posted 8 May, 2016 If he won't commit to any form of extension then yes i'd argue we'd be better served getting rid of him this summer than have the uncertainty hanging over the club in the summer and beyond. We are not going to get Jose. I hope we avoid Pellegrini. Not overly excited at the prospect of Howe either. I'd be tempted to look abroad again. I don't know if De Boer would be interested.
MarkSFC Posted 8 May, 2016 Posted 8 May, 2016 In light of VVDs long contract and based upon the assumption that other key members of the team and any new additions this summer will follow in similar fashion, this "new direction" Guan hints at suggests a more stable longer term approach versus the 2-3 year revolving door of players and manager. Although this has served us well to this point perhaps the increased financial status allows us to look further ahead. With that in mind I'm in two minds regarding Koeman and whether he should leave this summer if not going to extend, but more inclined to think he should leave early summer or sign. If we do need to replace him this summer I think Howe would definitely be a good longer term option although obviously does not have the gravitas of Koeman which may be a hindrance. I'm not convinced by Rodgers credentials, he seems to have lived on the back of other managers ground work but only for a season or two and then been shown up. Pellegrini seems too dour for our club. I'm sure the club have their contingency lined up but hopefully they won't need it and Koeman extends for a few more years!!
Wade Garrett Posted 8 May, 2016 Posted 8 May, 2016 Rogers is an absolute c*nt who has disrespected our club many times. I wouldn't want the pearly-toothed pr!ck anywhere near us. If Koeman doesn't sign an extension at the end of the season, try and get Pellegrini. He worked wonders at smaller Spanish clubs. For the record, I hope Koeman stays. A tremendous manager, but the long term future of the club has to come first.
a1ex2001 Posted 8 May, 2016 Posted 8 May, 2016 Hope Ron signs but if not I'd sack him this summer and replace with pellegrini, after the fiasco of strachans last season I don't want a repeat!
Chalkboy Posted 8 May, 2016 Posted 8 May, 2016 Certainly do NOT want Brenda. That would be too weird Not convinced by Pellegrini either. The one thing you could say about him is that he's done the "big club" thing, and may be happy to commit to a club like ours long-term. Personally I'd like someone younger and more dynamic but I don't know who that person is................ The perfect scenario is that Ron stays and commits to at least a one year extension.
angelman Posted 8 May, 2016 Posted 8 May, 2016 Benitez? I used to really dislike him, but I have mellowed.
JxgrSaint Posted 8 May, 2016 Posted 8 May, 2016 I'd be happy with any of Pellegrini, Benitez, AVB (who's already announced he's leaving Zenit in the summer), de Boer, Gallardo, Cocu, Di Matteo, Howe, Tuchel, Fournier or Marcelino
the saint in winchester Posted 8 May, 2016 Posted 8 May, 2016 I really find the notion of "sacking" Koeman quite distasteful. I want to ride the Koeman train to its end. WE HAVE NEVER HAD IT SO GOOD. I don't expect him to go to Everton or Aston Villa after us, but if Arsenal or Barcelona want to employ him in a year's time, we shake his hand and thank him for the last 3 years. Then we will be an established Top 8 side and the quality of applicants will amaze us (in a good way).
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