doddisalegend Posted 8 May, 2016 Share Posted 8 May, 2016 Seriously fluffed his lines today! Oh well, looks like we've got him for next year, which is awesome, and hopefully another one beyond that. If we get CL in the next two years that changes everything but I would suggest it's very unlikely that he will be here for the next 6 years Well technically the club could know force him (though most probably wouldn't) but it still gives the club more control over the next few seasons on when he goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 8 May, 2016 Share Posted 8 May, 2016 People are seriously getting their knickers in a twist on this thread. All that really needs to be said is that it's great news, it strengthens our position and sends out a message of commitment to other players. I noticed Koeman said he hopes to have a few more to announce in the coming weeks - I'd fully expect Long, Tadic, Fraser to be next down the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADutchSaint Posted 8 May, 2016 Share Posted 8 May, 2016 I'm Dutch like VVD and I was very surprised a few years ago when I learned that 'a couple' and 'a few' don't have the exact same meaning. I'm quite sure VVD doesn't know either. Doesnt have much to with being Dutch, if people seriously think he will be here for 6 years then they might need a reality check. He signed a long contract because it raises his transfer fee for the club and a wage increase for him, nothing more. If a big club comes knocking next summer with big transfer fee, he will be offski just like anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 Barcelona? Messi, Iniesta, Pedro, Xavi, Busquets, Puyol, Tello, Pique all came through the Barca academy - and then you have Bojan, Bartra, Muniesa, Romeu, Etc I almost mentioned Barcelona but technically it didn't qualify: From Sunday 8 May 2016 Ter Stegen developed by Borussia Monchengladbach Alves developed by Bahia Pique developed by Barcelona, but went away and came back Mascherano developed by River Plate Alba developed by Barcelona, but went away and came back Rakitic developed by FC Basel Busquets developed by Barcelona Iniesta developed by Barcelona Messi developed by Barcelona Suarez developed by Nacional Neymar developed by Santos Admitted, 5 of 11 isn't bad and they have undoubtedly played with a higher total at some point. However, my basic point was that playing 6 starters from are own academy while in the top half of the Premier League is simply not practical and few clubs, if any, playing at the highest level in the current world have done this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 Athletic Bilbao as they can only have Basques... Other than that Barcelona a few years ago must've been pretty close Athletic Bilbao 6 May 2016 Iraizoz developed by AB Elustondo developed by Real Sociedad Boveda developed by AB but left and came back Balenziaga developed by Real Sociedad De Marcos developed by Deportivo Alaves Garcia developed by CA Osasuna Etxebarria developed by AB but left and came back twice San Jose developed by CD Basconia Aduriz developed by CD Aurrera de Vitoria Muniain developed by AB Williams developed by AB but left and came back so they are close and probably did start six at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 Season ticket prices halved? Ok, so I'm in a dream world with that one, but IMO renegotiated contracts are for the players and agents to celebrate, not the fans. VVD has had a great first season, but I don't see a contract renegotiated after just one year as something to shout about. It says more about the strength of the agent than the club IMO. Did we not pay a large transfer fee and contract him to do exactly what he did this season? Let me ask you, when Payet renegotiated his deal less than a year after signing did you not think to yourself that his agent had perhaps just held a gun to the head of the west ham chairman? The way I see it is they had Payet on a long enough contract to dictate his movement, but they were forced to pay him a shed load more, plus some extra years, or his agent would have forced a summer move. Payet got paid. And like you suggest, why not, the money was there. Celebrations though? Equally, what do you think happened with VVD? was it saints that initiated new contract talks or his agent? There is no need to answer that question by the way. Having said all that, paying players top top money (maybe more than they can get at a bigger club) is perhaps the only way to keep them. Let's see if it works with Virgil. That is what really matters or might matter. Or might not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 I'm Dutch like VVD and I was very surprised a few years ago when I learned that 'a couple' and 'a few' don't have the exact same meaning. I'm quite sure VVD doesn't know either. I suspect only a couple of people from Holland even realize this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 That is what really matters or might matter. Or might not. Just hope we're sticking to the self sustaining policy and not starting down the slippery slope to debt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 (edited) Read the saints official site interview with vvd and it clearly states it's a couple more years added on. "I'm pleased to extend my deal by a couple of years longer" Edited 9 May, 2016 by Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 9 May, 2016 Share Posted 9 May, 2016 Just hope we're sticking to the self sustaining policy and not starting down the slippery slope to debt. I really don't think we need to worry about that under current management. The money for the maximum increase in salaries allowed by the BPL salary cap will be there from the TV contract, plus our new commercial income (and, if we qualify, Europe prizes, TV money, or gate receipts) This might not be true in two years if we go for the maximum increase each year, but I really don't think this management will borrow money to pay players' salaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wimborne_saint Posted 12 October, 2016 Share Posted 12 October, 2016 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/50-best-players-premier-league-9030132 26th best player in the league according to this - obviously means nothing but he's rated higher than mane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 12 October, 2016 Share Posted 12 October, 2016 Best CB surely....?! Not many can compete with him...Maybe Toby? Don't see these better than him: Stones Otamendi Mangala Terry Cahill Luiz Zouma Koscielny Mustafi Gabriel Mertesecker Vertonghen Bailly Smalling Blind Would be surprised if he's here come the first game of next season, but at least we've got a long contract in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirchSaint Posted 12 October, 2016 Share Posted 12 October, 2016 Best CB surely....?! Not many can compete with him...Maybe Toby? Don't see these better than him: Stones Otamendi Mangala Terry Cahill Luiz Zouma Koscielny Mustafi Gabriel Mertesecker Vertonghen Bailly Smalling Blind Would be surprised if he's here come the first game of next season, but at least we've got a long contract in place. I think VVD, Toby and Koscienly are the three best CB's in the league and would get into any team in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 13 October, 2016 Share Posted 13 October, 2016 Well technically the club could know force him (though most probably wouldn't) but it still gives the club more control over the next few seasons on when he goes. IF he does eventually move ...what level of fee are we thinking about ? Only one of the " big money " clubs would be able to afford him .......and so how highly would you rate VvD? ...compared to say £50 million John Stones ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 13 October, 2016 Share Posted 13 October, 2016 IF he does eventually move ...what level of fee are we thinking about ? Only one of the " big money " clubs would be able to afford him .......and so how highly would you rate VvD? ...compared to say £50 million John Stones ? At least the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pecho Lobo Posted 13 October, 2016 Share Posted 13 October, 2016 Better than Stones who got himself into difficulty on a number of occasions on Tuesday through his own misjudgements. VVD could play anywhere in the spine of the team and would be excellent; centre midfield or up front as well as centre back. We have had a lot of great centre backs at Saints through the years but VVD is shaping up to be the best that I have seen for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 14 October, 2016 Share Posted 14 October, 2016 Hope we keep hold of him for a few more seasons. Plenty of ifs and buts over the last few years but imagine if we'd kept Toby and signed VVD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBizzier69 Posted 17 October, 2016 Share Posted 17 October, 2016 Awesome yesterday again. VVD is the player that most people wrongly felt Rio Ferdinand was. If Stones is worth £50-odd million....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 17 October, 2016 Share Posted 17 October, 2016 Any chance we can tie him down forever? Literally? Like lock him in a dungeon so he can never leave? Please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 7 August, 2017 Share Posted 7 August, 2017 This thread is a laugh given the latest news. Extension was all about money, nothing more, we'll always be a stepping stone club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 8 August, 2017 Share Posted 8 August, 2017 Why keep him here if he is gonna be a misersble git? What can we do? 1) sell now for best money we can get. 2) let him rot. 3) sign some talent in a attempt to show him that as a club we have some form of ambition to go for Europe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 8 August, 2017 Share Posted 8 August, 2017 Laughable ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mowgli Posted 8 August, 2017 Share Posted 8 August, 2017 This thread is a laugh given the latest news. Extension was all about money, nothing more, we'll always be a stepping stone club. Not sure anyone really thought differently at the time. You just hope that one day you come across a world class player that stays with Saints a la Le Tiss. Sadly he is a one off. Though JWP is international class and shows loyalty and class in many ways on and off the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pass the Dutchie Posted 8 August, 2017 Share Posted 8 August, 2017 You just hope that one day you come across a world class player that stays with Saints a la Le Tiss. Sadly he is a one off. A one off from a different era. There's no comparing then and now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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