Nordic Saint Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 Congratulations to Leicester's owner, manager, staff, players and fans. They've done a fantastic job. This is a a tremendous season for English football. It's so much better than the dark days of the 80s and 90s, when Liverpool and Man United predictably won the league every year, and crowds plummeted. Now, the huge amounts of money EVERY team gets mean there is a level playing field again for the first time since the 1960s and 70s. 4 different teams have won it in the last 4 years and another 4 could win it in the next 4, including Saints. Really looking forward to our next 2 games and to next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 That's a good summary. Satisfying that you can't (always) buy success. True, although I did read somewhere that they have a net spending on players of £50m over the last two seasons. Also that Man Utd have spent more over the same period than Leicester have done in their entire history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 True, although I did read somewhere that they have a net spending on players of £50m over the last two seasons. Also that Man Utd have spent more over the same period than Leicester have done in their entire history. Their squad has cost a total of a little over £50M which puts them in the lowest bracket in the prem along with Watford, Swansea, WBA, Bournemouth, Crystal Palace and Norwich. Net spend is a completely different parameter relative to why and how you are spending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 does this mean that suggesting we CAN/COULD finish top 4 no longer means we will be mongs/fukwits/spastics/dripping idiots who think we can because man landed on the moon, climbed everest and all that hope so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 Their squad has cost a total of a little over £50M which puts them in the lowest bracket in the prem along with Watford, Swansea, WBA, Bournemouth, Crystal Palace and Norwich. Net spend is a completely different parameter relative to why and how you are spending. Of course wages are important too but either way there is no question they have done well with what they have. I see that Bournemouth have been fined £7.6m for overspending in the promotion season: http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/14467311.Cherries_slapped_with_massive_fine/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 does this mean that suggesting we CAN/COULD finish top 4 no longer means we will be mongs/fukwits/spastics/dripping idiots who think we can because man landed on the moon, climbed everest and all that hope so Leicester’s response to the naysayers is like Sachin Tendulkar in his pomp contemptuously swatting a ball away for four. Or something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 does this mean that suggesting we CAN/COULD finish top 4 no longer means we will be mongs/fukwits/spastics/dripping idiots who think we can because man landed on the moon, climbed everest and all that hope so Not quite. It's still a source of ridicule on the basis that it can only "just happen" and can't be planned for so we still shouldn't have mongy CEO's, Managers, players and fans suggesting such ridiculous nonsense, god forbid actually planning for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 Not quite. It's still a source of ridicule on the basis that it can only "just happen" and can't be planned for so we still shouldn't have mongy CEO's, Managers, players and fans suggesting such ridiculous nonsense, god forbid actually planning for it. But Leicester didn't plan for it did they. They planned not to get relegated and then the planets aligned and the rest is history. The fact it's considered possibly the biggest sporting underdog achievement of all time should tell everyone everything they need to know, add to that that they are the first new winners since 1979. Of all the non "big clubs" then perhaps we and WHU are best placed to crack the top 6 but to get close has taken a PL season like no other I can remember and, perhaps, one like we will never see again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 But Leicester didn't plan for it did they. They planned not to get relegated and then the planets aligned and the rest is history. The fact it's considered possibly the biggest sporting underdog achievement of all time should tell everyone everything they need to know, add to that that they are the first new winners since 1979. Of all the non "big clubs" then perhaps we and WHU are best placed to crack the top 6 but to get close has taken a PL season like no other I can remember and, perhaps, one like we will never see again. Didn't Ranieri say that his brief had been 'to avoid relegation'? Perhaps Dalek was right after all, perish the thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 Good for them, really pleased for them. Will be interesting how they react to this next season when they will be going to grounds as champions and teams will be wanting to knock them of their perch. Also fantastic news for the premier league which has been crying out for something like this since it started. Plenty of fans will now be thinking 'if they can do it then why can't we' and if there's any club outside the big boys who might be wondering if they too could break through you'd think it would be us. Could also be interesting as far as transfers go, if the big boys are losing their grip then maybe they won't have such a stranglehold on the best players, only time will tell. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 But Leicester didn't plan for it did they. They planned not to get relegated and then the planets aligned and the rest is history. The fact it's considered possibly the biggest sporting underdog achievement of all time should tell everyone everything they need to know, add to that that they are the first new winners since 1979. Of all the non "big clubs" then perhaps we and WHU are best placed to crack the top 6 but to get close has taken a PL season like no other I can remember and, perhaps, one like we will never see again. Quite aware that they didn't plan for it and Leicester of all teams were one the least likely. The point is though that the consistency of the traditional top 4 has diminished in recent seasons and the competing pack for the top spots has increased which is trend forming over the last few seasons, culminating in what we've seen this season, especially within the context that if Leicester didn't win the league, spurs would have. At various times over the last three seasons we've had/have at least 8 players wanted by clubs either in the Champions League or seen to have an infinitely more realistic chance of achieving it than us which in itself shows that we've not been a million miles away for a while now. Definitely not to the extent of the abuse and ridicule dished out by the likes of you, Leicester winning the league or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 (edited) Quite aware that they didn't plan for it and Leicester of all teams were one the least likely. The point is though that the consistency of the traditional top 4 has diminished in recent seasons and the competing pack for the top spots has increased which is trend forming over the last few seasons, culminating in what we've seen this season, especially within the context that if Leicester didn't win the league, spurs would have. At various times over the last three seasons we've had/have at least 8 players wanted by clubs either in the Champions League or seen to have an infinitely more realistic chance of achieving it than us which in itself shows that we've not been a million miles away for a while now. Definitely not to the extent of the abuse and ridicule dished out by the likes of you, Leicester winning the league or not. Agree. It's not just Leicester, though their achievement dwarfs everything else. Look at us the season before or even this season - we've been not a million miles away from the top four, even though our first XI is not a vintage one and we've endured some very sticky form. Or better still look at West Ham. Meanwhile the top sides -with the exception of Chelsea in the first half of the 2014/15 season, Spurs this season and the odd City battering- have looked bang average most weeks, even when winning. It will be interesting to see what happens next season - whether the trends we've seen over of the past couple of seasons continue or whether the top sides tool up, return stronger and nip all this in the bud. Whether a team plans for top 4, let alone plans to win the league is thus neither here or there. The real question is whether the gap between the top 4 and the top half has compressed to the point where teams can realistically challenge for top 4 (which may justify a change in approach). That comes back to Leicester: they didn't go on a lucky cup run; they outperformed every other team for 38 games. Time will tell. Edited 3 May, 2016 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 (edited) Agree. It's not just Leicester, though their achievement dwarfs everything else. Look at us the season before or even this season - we've been not a million miles away from the top four, even though our first XI is not a vintage one and we've endured some very sticky form. Or better still look at West Ham. Meanwhile the top sides -with the exception of Chelsea in the first half of the 2014/15 season, Spurs this season and the odd City battering- have looked bang average most weeks, even when winning. It will be interesting to see what happens next season - whether the trends we've seen over of the past couple of seasons continue or whether the top sides tool up, return stronger and nip all this in the bud. Whether a team plans for top 4, let alone plans to win the league is thus neither here or there. The real question is whether the gap between the top 4 and the top half has compressed to the point where teams can realistically challenge for top 4 (which may justify a change in approach). That comes back to Leicester: they didn't go on a lucky cup run; they outperformed every other team for 38 games. Time will tell. Cortese was highly ridiculed for saying he wanted us to go for champions league the players were ridiculed fans were ridiculed Krueger and les were ridiculed (lesser extent mind as they are not cortese) a club like saints will never ever finish top 4 unless we spend man city/arsenal sort of money. apparently I poked a bit of fun at people for saying we could have a proper bash at a champions league spot. I take it back. I was wrong. money, clout, new players, new manager - all those excuses teams have have been made redundant really Edited 3 May, 2016 by Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L_O_Z Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 Congratulations to Leicester's owner, manager, staff, players and fans. They've done a fantastic job. This is a a tremendous season for English football. It's so much better than the dark days of the 80s and 90s, when Liverpool and Man United predictably won the league every year, and crowds plummeted. Now, the huge amounts of money EVERY team gets mean there is a level playing field again for the first time since the 1960s and 70s. 4 different teams have won it in the last 4 years and another 4 could win it in the next 4, including Saints. Really looking forward to our next 2 games and to next season. I'm not so sure. "Financial Fair Play" should keep most teams in their "place". Doesn't really matter if we all have huge amounts of prem money, we are restricted to the wages we can pay and therefore restricted to who we can buy. That's why "FFP" is there. To stop us all being equal. Leicester with all due respect is a bit of a fluke. They deserve it as they've been the most consistant team but the big teams have been almost as bad as Leicester have good. Even their manager is admitting that they are not challenging for the title next season, or even going to be challenging for a European spot. If they finish in the top 7 next season I will be more shocked than them winning the league this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 (edited) Edited 3 May, 2016 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 Quite aware that they didn't plan for it and Leicester of all teams were one the least likely. The point is though that the consistency of the traditional top 4 has diminished in recent seasons and the competing pack for the top spots has increased which is trend forming over the last few seasons, culminating in what we've seen this season, especially within the context that if Leicester didn't win the league, spurs would have. At various times over the last three seasons we've had/have at least 8 players wanted by clubs either in the Champions League or seen to have an infinitely more realistic chance of achieving it than us which in itself shows that we've not been a million miles away for a while now. Definitely not to the extent of the abuse and ridicule dished out by the likes of you, Leicester winning the league or not. If there was any mocking going on it was against the dins demanding we "invest in the squad/break the bank/speculate to accumulate/etc etc" to the tune of why can't wah wah wah wah why can't that German woman let us do a Man City. Leicester's achievement by doing none of that, none of it, has smashed those moronic demands into the dust. It's great to be proved right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 (edited) Momentum is so important in any sport, but Leicester have achieved what they did through momentum, self belief and confidence. If you foster a good team spirit and get a real momentum behind you, you can be tough to stop - no matter how much money other teams have spent. The league is more of an even playing field these days, there are quite simply no easy games. It's not all about how much money you spend and who has the biggest net spend - it means nothing. I'm comfortable with the way we do things. Just imagine this place last summer if we'd signed a free transfer left back and a Stoke city squad CB. There would have been uproar. But this achievement shows that football is still about more than just money and finances, which is very refreshing at a time when there were talk of the rest 'pulling away' for ever. A team spirit and a self belief can still get you far. And also another point, I've seen it mentioned here and elsewhere that what Leicester did is what can happen when you 'Don't sell your best players' - but who the hell wanted Vardy, Marhez, Huth, Morgan on the back of last season? Maybe a few NPC clubs? This summer will be the test to see who they can keep hold of, and I really hope they can - I'd hate to see them ripped apart by the big boys. Edited 3 May, 2016 by S-Clarke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 If there was any mocking going on it was against the dins demanding we "invest in the squad/break the bank/speculate to accumulate/etc etc" to the tune of why can't wah wah wah wah why can't that German woman let us do a Man City. Leicester's achievement by doing none of that, none of it, has smashed those moronic demands into the dust. It's great to be proved right. If exploiting every nuance and angle of your position over time is "being proved right" then well done pal, you're bang on the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 so, can we or not achieve top 4 in the coming seasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 so, can we or not achieve top 4 in the coming seasons? yes we can, and as fans we should dream for it. what it will take is some luck and team spirit, oh and good players of course. however constantly chopping and changing our team is in my opinion what is holding us back- something that might not change unless we get our transfers absolutely spot on in one window and we go on to achieve some good results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 If exploiting every nuance and angle of your position over time is "being proved right" then well done pal, you're bang on the money. There's no nuance in my position on amything - in fact I'd I get grief from people on it tends to be because I am too unequivocal and don't accept nuance. So well done on giving me feedback diametrically opposed to what everyone else usually says. You'll never, ever find a post saying we can never win the league or finish top four. We could do. You will find lots of me saying "it's unlikely but possible in a season when everything falls into place, we have a heap of luck and at least one big club has a nightmare". Loads of times, usually on any long-ish thread about the topic. If we'd had this season Leicester's injury record last season then we'd have been fourth. Said that before too. No nuance, just clarity. Bang on the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 There's no nuance in my position on amything - in fact I'd I get grief from people on it tends to be because I am too unequivocal and don't accept nuance. So well done on giving me feedback diametrically opposed to what everyone else usually says. You'll never, ever find a post saying we can never win the league or finish top four. We could do. You will find lots of me saying "it's unlikely but possible in a season when everything falls into place, we have a heap of luck and at least one big club has a nightmare". Loads of times, usually on any long-ish thread about the topic. If we'd had this season Leicester's injury record last season then we'd have been fourth. Said that before too. No nuance, just clarity. Bang on the money. glad you don't have a dell-sized mentality anymore (like me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 If there was any mocking going on it was against the dins demanding we "invest in the squad/break the bank/speculate to accumulate/etc etc" to the tune of why can't wah wah wah wah why can't that German woman let us do a Man City. Leicester's achievement by doing none of that, none of it, has smashed those moronic demands into the dust. It's great to be proved right. Ha ha ha, this is a football message board where no body knows anyone and no one gives a ****; but you go for it, slide the keyboard shelf back in, sit back in your mock leather swivel office chair, put you feet up on your porn stack, puff your chest out and fist pump because CB Fry you the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 so, can we or not achieve top 4 in the coming seasons? Only if we build a 50,000 stadium now now now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 Only if we build a 50,000 stadium now now now. or not. but welcome to the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallBoy Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 Love the Redknapp "quote". Well done shurlock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 Ha ha ha, this is a football message board where no body knows anyone and no one gives a ****; but you go for it, slide the keyboard shelf back in, sit back in your mock leather swivel office chair, put you feet up on your porn stack, puff your chest out and fist pump because CB Fry you the man. Funnily enough I've just cracked one out to celebrate and, yeah, I earned that mother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 There's no nuance in my position on amything - in fact I'd I get grief from people on it tends to be because I am too unequivocal and don't accept nuance. So well done on giving me feedback diametrically opposed to what everyone else usually says. You'll never, ever find a post saying we can never win the league or finish top four. We could do. You will find lots of me saying "it's unlikely but possible in a season when everything falls into place, we have a heap of luck and at least one big club has a nightmare". Loads of times, usually on any long-ish thread about the topic. If we'd had this season Leicester's injury record last season then we'd have been fourth. Said that before too. No nuance, just clarity. Bang on the money. I don't really care what "feedback" you usually get on here If this forum however has always had you down for someone who has unequivocally been a big advocate of the Champions League being a reality for a club like Saints however, then my apologies, especially if I missed your crusade against others who have stupidly claimed that the only way there is a Man City-esq spending spree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 Leicester Chairman " selling players is not on the agenda" Please can we say that loud and clear-in fact very loud a very definately !!!!!!! We don't ! We never send a clear message.... We are weak and emit negative messages and defeatism which only encourages players more to move on.... Our board must change their language and so must most of the fans with no ambition on here and there are plenty ! Those people should be ashamed ... We must have a winning attitude and that includes fans. That means being ruthless in our pursuit of winning and not say how great it is just to exist..... You cannot win anything without the ambition to win and not accept anything else as being satisfactory.... Leicester wanted it badly - do we - do you - if not and passionately then stick to gardening and criticise those that have a critical comment if we lose or underperform ...... This is not gardening its winning at all costs, snooze you lose .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 (edited) Leicester Chairman " selling players is not on the agenda" Please can we say that loud and clear-in fact very loud a very definately !!!!!!! We don't ! We never send a clear message.... We are weak and emit negative messages and defeatism which only encourages players more to move on.... Our board must change their language and so must most of the fans with no ambition on here and there are plenty ! Those people should be ashamed ... We must have a winning attitude and that includes fans. That means being ruthless in our pursuit of winning and not say how great it is just to exist..... You cannot win anything without the ambition to win and not accept anything else as being satisfactory.... Leicester wanted it badly - do we - do you - if not and passionately then stick to gardening and criticise those that have a critical comment if we lose or underperform ...... This is not gardening its winning at all costs, snooze you lose .... Well that's quite a lot of waffle. Les Reed came out last year saying that we have no intention to sell players, we're not looking to sell, we don't need to sell. So we sent out exactly the same message last year. Although players talk, money talks, agents talk. We didn't have the intention, but if the players decide their future isn't here then you are pushed into a bit of a corner. Let's see how Leicester react when their players start asking to leave, although with CL football and a winners medal, they may not be in as such a rush to leave. Everyone on here has ambition, we all want to win and we all want to see success for our club. I didn't hear any Leicester fans slamming Raneiri for targeting safety in December, that's not exactly showing ambition is it? We are in no different a position to Leicester, people cannot start coming out now and saying ''Oh i wish we were like Leicester, i wish we showed ambition, i wish'' - they've shown no more or no less ambition than ourselves. If anything, Leicesters success vindicates our approach in scouting, transfers and management. Edited 3 May, 2016 by S-Clarke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show me the mané Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 Well that's quite a lot of waffle. Les Reed came out last year saying that we have no intention to sell players, we're not looking to sell, we don't need to sell. So we sent out exactly the same message last year. Although players talk, money talks, agents talk. We didn't have the intention, but if the players decide their future isn't here then you are pushed into a bit of a corner. Let's see how Leicester react when their players start asking to leave, although with CL football and a winners medal, they may not be in as such a rush to leave. Everyone on here has ambition, we all want to win and we all want to see success for our club. I didn't hear any Leicester fans slamming Raneiri for targeting safety in December, that's not exactly showing ambition is it? We are in no different a position to Leicester, people cannot start coming out now and saying ''Oh i wish we were like Leicester, i wish we showed ambition, i wish'' - they've shown no more or no less ambition than ourselves. If anything, Leicesters success vindicates our approach in scouting, transfers and management. you sound like one of the people he is talking about. Les reed called us a "showcase club".. Which is basically a selling club. I do think we need to show more ambition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 you sound like one of the people he is talking about. Les reed called us a "showcase club".. Which is basically a selling club. I do think we need to show more ambition But what he said is basically no different to what Raneri has come out with this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 you sound like one of the people he is talking about. Les reed called us a "showcase club".. Which is basically a selling club. I do think we need to show more ambition Ranieri gave a load of quotes only a few weeks ago about how he won't stand in any players way if they want to leave. Specifically it was about Mahrez going to a bigger club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 I don't really care what "feedback" you usually get on here[emoji38] If this forum however has always had you down for someone who has unequivocally been a big advocate of the Champions League being a reality for a club like Saints however, then my apologies, especially if I missed your crusade against others who have stupidly claimed that the only way there is a Man City-esq spending spree. Absolutely no clue whatsoever what you're going on about here. But yeah, it's me with the nuances. Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 Almost get the impression Mr Fry would be a bit gutted if we'd won the league instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 Almost get the impression Mr Fry would be a bit gutted if we'd won the league instead. Based on what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 I don't really care what "feedback" you usually get on here If this forum however has always had you down for someone who has unequivocally been a big advocate of the Champions League being a reality for a club like Saints however, then my apologies, especially if I missed your crusade against others who have stupidly claimed that the only way there is a Man City-esq spending spree. Poor old Fry's dimwitted fingerprints are all over this place - the repeated insults, the constant references to CL football being totally unrealistic, clownishly pie in the sky and utterly shortsighted, sometimes in the space of a single sentence. But yeh it's easy to miss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 Poor old Fry's dimwitted fingerprints are all over this place - the repeated insults, the constant references to CL football being totally unrealistic, clownishly pie in the sky and utterly shortsighted, sometimes in the space of a single sentence. But yeh it's easy to miss Good luck finding any of those sentences. You might want to read what I've written instead of what you think I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 Good luck finding any of those sentences. You might want to read what I've written instead of what you think I have. According to you it was never, ever going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 I think a lot of it is a hangover from the Cortese days. So many on here hated Nicola, and his ambition, and I think some have carried that disdain over for any idea that Saints could aim for or achieve Champions League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 According to you it was never, ever going to happen. Which you've made up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 Which you've made up. Characteristically subtle and nuanced: http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?50853-NC-s-top-4-dream&highlight=Champions+league+cortese#.VyksB0qkqrU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 Characteristically subtle and nuanced: http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?50853-NC-s-top-4-dream&highlight=Champions+league+cortese#.VyksB0qkqrU Well, it never ever did happen, did it? I was right. Cortese bottled it and quit. Thanks for a totally irrelevant thread from 2013-4 season, fascinating stuff. Not entirely sure what that has to do with anything Leicester City has done, or we have done since the Italian scarpered, or anything about me saying we couldn't ever finish top four, but bless you for digging it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 Well, it never ever did happen, did it? I was right. Cortese bottled it and quit. Thanks for a totally irrelevant thread from 2013-4 season, fascinating stuff. Not entirely sure what that has to do with anything Leicester City has done, or we have done since the Italian scarpered, or anything about me saying we couldn't ever finish top four, but bless you for digging it out. Nice try 2/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 3 May, 2016 Share Posted 3 May, 2016 A mind boggingly terrific achievement! Jealous? Moi? Dead straight!!! Congrats to all those in Leicester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 4 May, 2016 Share Posted 4 May, 2016 so, can we or not achieve top 4 in the coming seasons? Yes we can but it will be difficult because there are at least nine other clubs who can do it too and several of them are more likely to do it than we are. yes we can, and as fans we should dream for it. what it will take is some luck and team spirit, oh and good players of course. however constantly chopping and changing our team is in my opinion what is holding us back- something that might not change unless we get our transfers absolutely spot on in one window and we go on to achieve some good results. Assuming team chemistry is as important as everyone now thinks it was for Leicester, it does not mean we can run right out and get better team spirit. Putting that together involves some luck as well as skill. The same goes for transfers and staying free of critical injuries. We might very well have made the champions league last season if Forster and Schneiderlin had remained healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show me the mané Posted 6 May, 2016 Share Posted 6 May, 2016 I think a lot of it is a hangover from the Cortese days. So many on here hated Nicola, and his ambition, and I think some have carried that disdain over for any idea that Saints could aim for or achieve Champions League. That could be what it is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 6 May, 2016 Share Posted 6 May, 2016 Yes we can but it will be difficult because there are at least nine other clubs who can do it too and several of them are more likely to do it than we are. Assuming team chemistry is as important as everyone now thinks it was for Leicester, it does not mean we can run right out and get better team spirit. Putting that together involves some luck as well as skill. The same goes for transfers and staying free of critical injuries. We might very well have made the champions league last season if Forster and Schneiderlin had remained healthy. For a club our size (and Leicester's) this is the most crucial thing I'd say. Of course luck is involved, but if we compare Leicester and Arsenal's record this season in this regard it appears to me that there's more than luck involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 6 May, 2016 Share Posted 6 May, 2016 Great great achievement, unbelievable that anyone outside of the big 6 could win it , doubely so that it wasn't us , or Stoke or Everton , clubs ghat have flirted with the top 8 , but a club that nearly got relegated . Unbelievable. Had we signed Mirgan , Huth, Allbrighton they'd have been meltdown on here , then replaced Poch with the sacked Greek manager lol . I heard on the radio that the manager negotiating the deal wanted £5mil bonus if they qualified for champions league , I bet that discussion didn't take long , personally if I was the chairman I'd have binned him then and there for taking the **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 8 May, 2016 Share Posted 8 May, 2016 A Premier League title medal for Nathan Dyer? First academy product since Wayne Bridge to do that? Calling statisticians! Amazing for him. Loaned to relegation strugglers Leicester at the start of the season from Swansea. Probably hoping to earn a move. Ends up winning the league with them. Insane! Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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