Pilchards Posted 1 May, 2016 Share Posted 1 May, 2016 My top 5 things we need to address for next season. (1) Sort out why we are **** for 10 matches before and after xmas. (2) Get Townsend in if the toons go down. We were after him before and he would sort out the problem with our left and right flank if Tadic is having a bad period. (3) Steven Davis needs to become a squad player which means we need a decent energetic midfielder like Ross Barkley. (4) Tie down Wanayama and Mane as they are so important for us. (5) Get Charlie Austin fit. This could easily see us challenging for a champions league place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 1 May, 2016 Share Posted 1 May, 2016 My top 5 things we need to address for next season. (1) Sort out why we are **** for 10 matches before and after xmas. (2) Get Townsend in if the toons go down. We were after him before and he would sort out the problem with our left and right flank if Tadic is having a bad period. (3) Steven Davis needs to become a squad player which means we need a decent energetic midfielder like Ross Barkley. (4) Tie down Wanayama and Mane as they are so important for us. (5) Get Charlie Austin fit. This could easily see us challenging for a champions league place. Steve Davis was once again one of our best players today. Mad how fans can't appreciate what he offers. Far better than Wanyama and clasie in that midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 1 May, 2016 Share Posted 1 May, 2016 Mane and Wanyama are as good as gone, I am staggered there are people who think otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 1 May, 2016 Author Share Posted 1 May, 2016 Mane and Wanyama are as good as gone, I am staggered there are people who think otherwise. If nobody offers what we want then surely they won't be leaving. Simple as that!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 1 May, 2016 Share Posted 1 May, 2016 If nobody offers what we want then surely they won't be leaving. Simple as that!!! But they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 1 May, 2016 Share Posted 1 May, 2016 If nobody offers what we want then surely they won't be leaving. Simple as that!!! If Wanyama won't sign a new contract then we will probably actively want to sell him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 1 May, 2016 Share Posted 1 May, 2016 If nobody offers what we want then surely they won't be leaving. Simple as that!!! Which has to be balanced by the club making sure they don't leave on a free. It's not as easy as tying them down they both know they are wanted by other clubs with much deeper pockets than Southampton. Those two will be gone this summer people need to deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 1 May, 2016 Share Posted 1 May, 2016 I like Davis, he is a good player. But. This is a position we could improve in. Sigurdsson, he has 11 goals and 3 assists to Davis' 2 goals and 3 assists. Those extra goals could be an additional 4-6 points. I would love to see Saints assert themselves as the next best team after the big clubs (which we are 110%). We are so close to challenging the top 4 and only need 2-3 players (if we can keep Wanyama and Mane). Next season needs to be the season we go for it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScepticalStan Posted 1 May, 2016 Share Posted 1 May, 2016 Mane and Wanyama are as good as gone, I am staggered there are people who think otherwise. Sadly this is probably true. Funnily enough, I wonder if we could put a bid in for Walcott as a replacement for Mané? Granted his wages will be big but the transfer fee shouldn't be too much. Plus, when you look at what he'd bring to the table in terms of pace and finishing he'd probably suit our style quite nicely. He's not the most skillful player in the world but with our system the way it is, he wouldn't have to be. Mané's a wonderfully talented player but what made him effective today was simply his ability to run through one-on-one and finish. That's a job Theo could probably do quite effectively - and we get more out of Long when he's alongside a pacy strike partner as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 1 May, 2016 Share Posted 1 May, 2016 1) Don't sell Mane 2) Don't sell Wanyama 3) Don't sell Forster 4) Don't sell Fonte 5) Don't sell van Dijk The Leicester model is not about buying; it's about not selling. If we could invest in getting Chambers back, that would be a good summer for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 2 May, 2016 Share Posted 2 May, 2016 1) Don't sell Mane 2) Don't sell Wanyama 3) Don't sell Forster 4) Don't sell Fonte 5) Don't sell van Dijk The Leicester model is not about buying; it's about not selling. If we could invest in getting Chambers back, that would be a good summer for us. 1 - We aren't Leicester 2 - How many big money offers did they fend off for their players last summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 2 May, 2016 Share Posted 2 May, 2016 Sadly this is probably true. Funnily enough, I wonder if we could put a bid in for Walcott as a replacement for Mané? Granted his wages will be big but the transfer fee shouldn't be too much. Plus, when you look at what he'd bring to the table in terms of pace and finishing he'd probably suit our style quite nicely. He's not the most skillful player in the world but with our system the way it is, he wouldn't have to be. Mané's a wonderfully talented player but what made him effective today was simply his ability to run through one-on-one and finish. That's a job Theo could probably do quite effectively - and we get more out of Long when he's alongside a pacy strike partner as well. Agree with your comments Stan, although I think Mane is going to be nigh impossible to replace. The other facets of his game which was so effective today were his touches, lay offs and passes, often one-touch, often to a player in a dangerous position. I just haven't seen many players like him who on the same day can play winger, striker and attacking mid with such impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 2 May, 2016 Share Posted 2 May, 2016 Agree with your comments Stan, although I think Mane is going to be nigh impossible to replace. The other facets of his game which was so effective today were his touches, lay offs and passes, often one-touch, often to a player in a dangerous position. I just haven't seen many players like him who on the same day can play winger, striker and attacking mid with such impact. Mane has been utterly brilliant for us. I don't think I have ever seen a player run as much and work as hard as he does for us in my whole 50 year history of watching Saints. The only other player who'd compare is Kevin Keegan. He's improving and so he'll be even better next season. If we could even hang on to him until January before the owner needs to sell him, she could make another 10 million. If she cashes in in the summer, she'll lose that and we'll lose one of the best players we've ever had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 2 May, 2016 Share Posted 2 May, 2016 1) break the cycle of selling very important players every summer 2) actually manage to get at least one sought after player to sign a new contract 3) stop having "positive talks" with Koeman and actually reassure him that ambition is there to kick on to get him to sign 4) start believing in what an excellent team we could be if we just invest in one or two areas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 2 May, 2016 Author Share Posted 2 May, 2016 I like Davis, he is a good player. But. This is a position we could improve in. Sigurdsson, he has 11 goals and 3 assists to Davis' 2 goals and 3 assists. Those extra goals could be an additional 4-6 points. Indeed a great player, him and Townsend with a Pelle replacement would surely have us knocking on the door for champions league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 2 May, 2016 Share Posted 2 May, 2016 Mane has been utterly brilliant for us. I don't think I have ever seen a player run as much and work as hard as he does for us in my whole 50 year history of watching Saints. The only other player who'd compare is Kevin Keegan. He's improving and so he'll be even better next season. If we could even hang on to him until January before the owner needs to sell him, she could make another 10 million. If she cashes in in the summer, she'll lose that and we'll lose one of the best players we've ever had. I think $hlong does a lot more running, unselfish running for sure, than Mane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 2 May, 2016 Share Posted 2 May, 2016 I think $hlong does a lot more running, unselfish running for sure, than Mane Not sure mane covered more ground than anyone yesterday. Was unplayable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 2 May, 2016 Share Posted 2 May, 2016 1) break the cycle of selling very important players every summer 2) actually manage to get at least one sought after player to sign a new contract 3) stop having "positive talks" with Koeman and actually reassure him that ambition is there to kick on to get him to sign 4) start believing in what an excellent team we could be if we just invest in one or two areas If players want to leave then they won't sign a contract, it doesn't matter how much money we offer them unless we go crazy and thankfully we won't! Remember P*rtsmouth... Fact is we can't offer Champions League football anytime soon. Sure, maybe we could if we kept all these players...but the individuals don't care about that, they just want to be at a big club already playing there. Not sure mane covered more ground than anyone yesterday. Was unplayable. Long definitely covered more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 2 May, 2016 Share Posted 2 May, 2016 1) Don't sell Mane 2) Don't sell Wanyama 3) Don't sell Forster 4) Don't sell Fonte 5) Don't sell van Dijk The Leicester model is not about buying; it's about not selling. If we could invest in getting Chambers back, that would be a good summer for us. pffft yeah they bravely held off all those huge bids for their players.... be interesting to see if they hold onto Kante and Marhez this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 2 May, 2016 Share Posted 2 May, 2016 Wait...Wait...Wait...So now we WANT Townsend?! I can't keep up with this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 2 May, 2016 Share Posted 2 May, 2016 Wait...Wait...Wait...So now we WANT Townsend?! I can't keep up with this forum. I do - so should England -if only as an impact sub. Of course the purists will bemoan his lack of finesse and he is a greedy bstard. Ask the Geordies what his impact has been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 2 May, 2016 Share Posted 2 May, 2016 If players want to leave then they won't sign a contract, it doesn't matter how much money we offer them unless we go crazy and thankfully we won't! Remember P*rtsmouth... Fact is we can't offer Champions League football anytime soon. Sure, maybe we could if we kept all these players...but the individuals don't care about that, they just want to be at a big club already playing there. The title of the thread is called "going forwards", not "coming 10th" so the list of things which we need to do in order to go forwards is still perfectly valid and not as unreasonable as you've gotten yourself to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 2 May, 2016 Share Posted 2 May, 2016 Wait...Wait...Wait...So now we WANT Townsend?! I can't keep up with this forum. I dont Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice2Eskimos Posted 2 May, 2016 Share Posted 2 May, 2016 1) Don't sell Mane 2) Don't sell Wanyama 3) Don't sell Forster 4) Don't sell Fonte 5) Don't sell van Dijk The Leicester model is not about buying; it's about not selling. If we could invest in getting Chambers back, that would be a good summer for us. He was sh*te when we had him and he's still sh*te now. Have you seen the performances he's put in for Arsenal. The word "liability" springs to mind. Either one of Soares/Martina are better than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 2 May, 2016 Share Posted 2 May, 2016 He was sh*te when we had him and he's still sh*te now. Have you seen the performances he's put in for Arsenal. The word "liability" springs to mind. Either one of Soares/Martina are better than him. So you think Chambers was "****e" for us? Talking of ****e you are full of it with a view like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice2Eskimos Posted 2 May, 2016 Share Posted 2 May, 2016 So you think Chambers was "****e" for us? Talking of ****e you are full of it with a view like that I've got to be honest. When Arsenal coughed up £16M for him I was surprised. I didn't think he was worth that. The fact he's English probably pushed that fee but on footballing ability alone he wasn't and isn't worth what Arsenal paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 2 May, 2016 Share Posted 2 May, 2016 So you think Chambers was "****e" for us? Talking of ****e you are full of it with a view like that Don't give him airtime, hopefully he'll be banned soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 2 May, 2016 Share Posted 2 May, 2016 Wait...Wait...Wait...So now we WANT Townsend?! I can't keep up with this forum. It's almost like this forum is made up of different people who think different things, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice2Eskimos Posted 2 May, 2016 Share Posted 2 May, 2016 Don't give him airtime, hopefully he'll be banned soon. WTF? This forum is soft as sh*te. Honestly. This is just convo. Lol..try RAWK or FightingCock you'd be in tears and that's not even the REAL trolls. Note to admin: If you want to ban me by all means ban me but F*king hell lmao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBizzier69 Posted 2 May, 2016 Share Posted 2 May, 2016 Steve Davis was once again one of our best players today. Mad how fans can't appreciate what he offers. Far better than Wanyama and clasie in that midfield. This, this, and thrice this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBizzier69 Posted 2 May, 2016 Share Posted 2 May, 2016 For sentence 1 & 2 I should add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 2 May, 2016 Share Posted 2 May, 2016 The difficulty we have is that we rely on Davis to play our way. Anyone who can score goals and marshal midfield like him is earning £100,000 a week at a top club. We'd all love an upgrade who can bang them in from 30 yards but we'd risk losing other elements of our game. Wait...Wait...Wait...So now we WANT Townsend?! I can't keep up with this forum. He's been great since moving to Newcastle, which has swayed a few. I'm still not sure but I'd love to have him here in his current form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 2 May, 2016 Share Posted 2 May, 2016 This, this, and thrice this. Thrice squared. In spades. Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 2 May, 2016 Share Posted 2 May, 2016 Steve Davis was once again one of our best players today. Mad how fans can't appreciate what he offers. Far better than Wanyama and clasie in that midfield. The problem with Davis is he ain't getting any younger and we really don't have anyone else to play in his normal position other than Mane (who is off) or JWP (who isn't up to it) we really need to buy at least one younger player who can play that position if he is better than Davis and can bring a few goals to the team that would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 2 May, 2016 Share Posted 2 May, 2016 1. Sign Koeman long term, which may be dependant on 2 & 3. 2. Try not to sell anyone at all, at max one key player - Wanyama, and if we do sell early replacements of real quality. 3. Get someone in attacking midfield No. 10 role, someone like Ox or Sigurdsson who will add goals from midfield, a sensible but high quality signing. (i.e. someone that fits the ethos not a high profile signing for the PR) 4. Get Jay Rod and Austin fit 5. Get another centre back in to challenge Fonte/Virgil. This squad is basically one Mahrez/Payet away from the Champions league challenge this season IMO, so if we can hold on to what we've got and 2/3 that improve the squad, whilst keeping/getting others fit we'll have chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewell Posted 2 May, 2016 Share Posted 2 May, 2016 Steve Davis was once again one of our best players today. Mad how fans can't appreciate what he offers. Far better than Wanyama and clasie in that midfield. This. Koeman was waxing lyrical about another fantastic Davis performance in his post match interview. As long as that continues and Steven keeps getting picked then it isn't an issue. The answer to the huge number of our fans that still don't rate him, as I do, just file under dinlow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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