saint lard Posted 23 April, 2016 Share Posted 23 April, 2016 Mane....Pelle...Jay...Long ...Tadic...Austin.... That is one hell of a pick of attacking options to choose from. If only they could be clinical. They are up there with the best in the league. Can we get get them fulfilling their potential? They all fill the requirements....target man....willing runner...speed....wide man...each one one fills a particular role..... I think we are very fortunate.....but Mane to leave?,Austin injury concerns....? It would be great if we can keep them together for next season and on form. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 23 April, 2016 Share Posted 23 April, 2016 Can't imagine Pelle will be here next season, would say Mane too but I'm not sure who'd fork out the stupid money for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K,Billy's supersound Posted 23 April, 2016 Share Posted 23 April, 2016 How much do you think Mane is worth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 23 April, 2016 Share Posted 23 April, 2016 How much do you think Mane is worth? How much do I actually think he's worth in this market? £25m. However I don't think we'd sell for that, he's 24 years old and he's managed 10+ goals in both years he's been with us and has since been linked to United and praised by people like Pep Guardiola. I don't think he's been fantastic this season, hence the fact he's been dropped regularly, but I'd still be surprised to see us sell him for anything less than £30m or so. But that obviously begs the question, who's going to want him? Is Guardiola going to want him at City to replace Navas or are United going to be interested again? I don't think we will sell him because I don't think any team will willingly pay what we'd want, but does that leave us in a poor position next Summer when he's only got one year left of his deal and he has no intention to sign a new one? All hypothetical of course but I wouldn't be disappointed to see him go for £20-£30m this Summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 24 April, 2016 Share Posted 24 April, 2016 Mane....Pelle...Jay...Long ...Tadic...Austin.... That is one hell of a pick of attacking options to choose from. I think that fact has been noticed by others, too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 24 April, 2016 Share Posted 24 April, 2016 So basically if all our players played at the top of their game every week all season we'd be a really good team........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 24 April, 2016 Share Posted 24 April, 2016 So basically if all our players played at the top of their game every week all season we'd be a really good team........ Top quality analysis. Yesterday we also learned that if Shane Long scored 20 goals a season he'd be a 20 goals a season striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 24 April, 2016 Share Posted 24 April, 2016 Top quality analysis. Yesterday we also learned that if Shane Long scored 20 goals a season he'd be a 20 goals a season striker. impossible, as we could not create enough chances for him to get to 20 goals.lol If he was clinical he would be as good as Suarez. He is superb at unsettling defences and being a thorn in the side, hes one of those players who you admire when they are playing against you as they never give you peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 April, 2016 Share Posted 24 April, 2016 How much do you think Mane is worth? How much are we selling him for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 24 April, 2016 Share Posted 24 April, 2016 How much are we selling him for? Would hope no less than £30m. He has been a bit up and down this season but has so much potential, scores goals, can play in different positions and beats defenders with ease. There is an ACON next season which may potentially put off prospective buyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 24 April, 2016 Share Posted 24 April, 2016 Would hope no less than £30m. He has been a bit up and down this season but has so much potential, scores goals, can play in different positions and beats defenders with ease. There is an ACON next season which may potentially put off prospective buyers. Agreed with this. If we had Austin, Jay, Long and Mane next season as our 4 striker to choose from with 2 up front I'd be very happy with that and if we kept them fit I think we could have a great season. All ifs though and i'm guessing a deal for Mane is probably already agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 24 April, 2016 Share Posted 24 April, 2016 Getting Austin fit and Jay Rod back to his best are key for me. A fit Austin is our sharpest finisher and Jay Rod before his injury was excellent. Don't think we should sell Pelle though, he gives us extra options, especially at home where teams will sit deep against us and the likes of Long/mane can't get in behind. Still think the key to our attack is getting a quality no.10, someone who can create something out of nothing, score a screamer etc. make late runs etc. Tadic is a tad too inconsistent. We've got a top class keeper, a very good back 4, good defensive mids and good forward/wide players with a mix of styles. The missing ingredient is a goal scoring midfielder, Davis is a solid player and useful squad player but not good enough for that position IMO. We need a player that we thought Ramirez was going to be. Not to mention as well, without Ward-Prowse we need someone else who can take a good set piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 24 April, 2016 Share Posted 24 April, 2016 and good forward/wide players with a mix of styles. We only have one wide player really which is Tadic. Mane, Rodriguez, Long all should be playing centrally IMO. We're crying out for someone to play on the right I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 24 April, 2016 Share Posted 24 April, 2016 The mystery for me is that our attacking options look way, way better - and deeper - than our defence. But the goals for/against tally tells a very different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 24 April, 2016 Share Posted 24 April, 2016 The mystery for me is that our attacking options look way, way better - and deeper - than our defence. But the goals for/against tally tells a very different story. We've been able to keep Fonte and VVD fit pretty much all season. If one of those two had had 5 or 6 weeks out then i think it would have shown. And although right now our attacking options look strong, for most of the season we haven't had Austin or Rodriguez, and the others are not particularly clinical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 24 April, 2016 Share Posted 24 April, 2016 We've been able to keep Fonte and VVD fit pretty much all season. If one of those two had had 5 or 6 weeks out then i think it would have shown. And although right now our attacking options look strong, for most of the season we haven't had Austin or Rodriguez, and the others are not particularly clinical It certainly showed when Fonte was out for the league cup match v Liverpool. Imagine half a season like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 24 April, 2016 Share Posted 24 April, 2016 The mystery for me is that our attacking options look way, way better - and deeper - than our defence. But the goals for/against tally tells a very different story. Our defence clicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 24 April, 2016 Share Posted 24 April, 2016 Top quality analysis. Yesterday we also learned that if Shane Long scored 20 goals a season he'd be a 20 goals a season striker. Thanks I am hoping to take over from Michael Owen as a pundit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 24 April, 2016 Share Posted 24 April, 2016 So basically if all our players played at the top of their game every week all season we'd be a really good team........ isnt that what we want to see every game?...............lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 24 April, 2016 Share Posted 24 April, 2016 impossible, as we could not create enough chances for him to get to 20 goals.lol If he was clinical he would be as good as Suarez. He is superb at unsettling defences and being a thorn in the side, hes one of those players who you admire when they are playing against you as they never give you peace What are Long's assists stats? His 10 goals so far plus assists have to enhance his importance. And he hasn't always started matches. With more work on shooting accuracy Shane could be immense for us next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpbury Posted 24 April, 2016 Share Posted 24 April, 2016 I love Long, but it's interesting to consider his upbringing in gaelic football etc, where I suppose he didn't play a lot of soccer as such. He's an immense athlete, and gets clattered every game because of his bravery- punctured lung etc. He favours the dinked or side foot finish (or the head of course) - I can't recall many, if any, boot lace screamers which again suggests his comfortableness when controlling and kicking the ball is undeveloped. Just wish he could somehow work on his ball control, maybe it can't be changed at his relatively advanced age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 25 April, 2016 Share Posted 25 April, 2016 We've been able to keep Fonte and VVD fit pretty much all season. If one of those two had had 5 or 6 weeks out then i think it would have shown. And although right now our attacking options look strong, for most of the season we haven't had Austin or Rodriguez, and the others are not particularly clinical Yep, that's fair enough. I don't even mind Yoshida and Stekelenberg as back-ups. But beyond those back-ups, there is absolutely nothing at all. Whereas is we lose, say, Jay and Austin for months on end we still have a good attack. I really want to buy some cover at centre-back, we should have 5 decent players who can play there (even if one of them is also a DM or LB/RB). I think we currently only have 3, given Gardos has been out all year. If we had an injury to VvD and a suspension for Fonte, who the heck covers those positions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 25 April, 2016 Share Posted 25 April, 2016 Our forwards have given us the service that we paid for, routine fees and a routine number of goals. Pelle, Tadic and Mane are streaky, when they are good they are very good but they can go missing for long periods. Shane Long gets into great positions and works hard but struggles to finish. Charlie Austin has an injury question hanging over him. Jay Rod has a question mark over him after his injury, the jury is out as to whether he can ever get back to what he was. I'm not knocking them, they are solid mid\upper mid table strikers but let's not expect them to be world beaters. You get what you pay for and that's what we have, no more, no less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 25 April, 2016 Share Posted 25 April, 2016 Our forwards have given us the service that we paid for, routine fees and a routine number of goals. Pelle, Tadic and Mane are streaky, when they are good they are very good but they can go missing for long periods. Shane Long gets into great positions and works hard but struggles to finish. Charlie Austin has an injury question hanging over him. Jay Rod has a question mark over him after his injury, the jury is out as to whether he can ever get back to what he was. I'm not knocking them, they are solid mid\upper mid table strikers but let's not expect them to be world beaters. You get what you pay for and that's what we have, no more, no less. Remind me again how much Leicester paid for Marhez and Vardy or spurs paid for Kane ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 April, 2016 Share Posted 25 April, 2016 Remind me again how much Leicester paid for Marhez and Vardy or spurs paid for Kane Can you imagine the meltdown if we sell Mane and replace Him with a £500k signing from the French second division? The "you can't expect to sell your best players and replace them with cheap imports" brigade will be in their absolute element. We'd be wishing we were a whole host of other clubs who do show ambition, like Watford. It'd be absolutely hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 25 April, 2016 Share Posted 25 April, 2016 Remind me again how much Leicester paid for Marhez and Vardy or spurs paid for Kane Come on, they are outliers. You could just as easily quote a load of players that cost a lot but were a flop. Vardy has been a revelation this season (come on Roy, you know you want him up front) and Leicester got a lucky break on that one, good for them. Kane too but Spurs fans will just as easily reel off a list of flops that cost them a fortune. I'm not knocking our strikers, I'd like more goals BUT I think they've given the service that their price suggested they would. SFC obviously would have hoped that one of them might have done a Vardy but they haven't, we've simply got our money's worth. The 'if only our strikers were better' line is felt by fans of all clubs outside the very big boys but in reality you generally get what you pay for. My biggest hope is that Jay Rod and Charlie Austin can get over their injuries and recapture their previous form, that really would be a big bonus for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 25 April, 2016 Share Posted 25 April, 2016 The mystery for me is that our attacking options look way, way better - and deeper - than our defence. But the goals for/against tally tells a very different story. It's easier to defend than to attack. But also once we got past the first few games we've also been able to call on Bertrand, Van Dijk and Fonte almost all of the time - makes a massive difference having your best team on the pitch (see Leicester). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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