Mr X Posted 23 April, 2016 Share Posted 23 April, 2016 Has had a couple of good games for us but so far i'm not blown away, seems weak on the ball and easy to get by, certainly not in the same league as clyne (technically he is though ) Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pass the Dutchie Posted 23 April, 2016 Share Posted 23 April, 2016 Martina has caught up with him and probably surpassed him. Who'd have thought at the start of the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 23 April, 2016 Share Posted 23 April, 2016 A far better footballer that Martina who will be a very decent full back in a couple of season. One for the future, I like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 23 April, 2016 Share Posted 23 April, 2016 Not yet but he definitely has the potential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 23 April, 2016 Share Posted 23 April, 2016 Nowhere near as good as Clyne imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScepticalStan Posted 23 April, 2016 Share Posted 23 April, 2016 Along with Clasie/Schneiderlin, Cedric/Clyne has been one of our few clear steps down in quality from our high-turnover transfer strategy. He's not terrible at all, just a bit 'meh' really. No massive weaknesses but no real strengths either. Can't think of anything that Clyne wasn't better at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 23 April, 2016 Share Posted 23 April, 2016 The level he needs to hit is how he played at Stamford Bridge - He was fantastic that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 23 April, 2016 Share Posted 23 April, 2016 Decent but not as good as Clyne but we all know that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 23 April, 2016 Share Posted 23 April, 2016 (edited) He was very popr today aside from one cross. Seems too timid, and easy for opponents to intimidate. Really need a new right back this summer which is mental after getting two last summer. We clearly had a penchant last summer for signings players who lack the physical attributes needed to flourish in the PL. Edited 23 April, 2016 by Saint Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 23 April, 2016 Share Posted 23 April, 2016 He was very popr today aside from one cross. Seems too timid, and easy for opponents to intimidate. Really need a new right back this summer which is mental after getting two last summer. He has good games and bad games much like most players Do you like any of our players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 23 April, 2016 Share Posted 23 April, 2016 Nowhere near as good as Clyne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 23 April, 2016 Share Posted 23 April, 2016 Along with Clasie/Schneiderlin, Cedric/Clyne has been one of our few clear steps down in quality from our high-turnover transfer strategy. He's not terrible at all, just a bit 'meh' really. No massive weaknesses but no real strengths either. Can't think of anything that Clyne wasn't better at. Both clyne and schneiderlin were with us far longer before they became the players they are. We lost both to bigger clubs that can pay far more than us. Clasie and Cedric will come good and be more consistent. Better to judge after next seson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintsteve7 Posted 23 April, 2016 Share Posted 23 April, 2016 Different players, Clyne in defensive 1v1's is as good as they come but wasn't very strong in the air and couldn't cross for toffee! Cedric is a great crosser of the ball and his passing is better than Clyne as well but he's nowhere near as good defensively. That may improve as time goes by but until then we may see him have better games at wing back then full back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 23 April, 2016 Share Posted 23 April, 2016 He has good games and bad games much like most players Do you like any of our players? Read my post. Which bits do you actually disagree with? Its not about liking someone or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluto Posted 23 April, 2016 Share Posted 23 April, 2016 Its simple, we havent replaced Clyne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 23 April, 2016 Share Posted 23 April, 2016 Defensively he isn't good enough. He's young though and we wouldn't have signed him for the money we did if we didn't think we couldn't improve him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintsteve7 Posted 23 April, 2016 Share Posted 23 April, 2016 Apart from Clyne I don't really rate any full backs in the prem this year. The usual suspects (Zabaleta, Colman, etc) just haven't performed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 23 April, 2016 Share Posted 23 April, 2016 Martina has caught up with him and probably surpassed him. Who'd have thought at the start of the season? Martina will become a cult hero for saints. called it in august and see no reason to change my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 23 April, 2016 Share Posted 23 April, 2016 Apart from Clyne I don't really rate any full backs in the prem this year. The usual suspects (Zabaleta, Colman, etc) just haven't performed. So you don't rate Bertrand?.... also Clyne has been distinctly average at Liverpool this season according to the Liverpool fans at work ( though "better than the other **** we sold them" apparently) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marching Halos Posted 23 April, 2016 Share Posted 23 April, 2016 martina should be our first choice right back and cedric should play right midfield/winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 23 April, 2016 Share Posted 23 April, 2016 martina should be our first choice right back and cedric should play right midfield/winger. We have much better options in midfield going forward than Cedric! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 23 April, 2016 Share Posted 23 April, 2016 On his day he has shown he can be imo , Just needs to be consistent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 23 April, 2016 Share Posted 23 April, 2016 Not good enough, probably our weakest position now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 23 April, 2016 Share Posted 23 April, 2016 He's not even close unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 23 April, 2016 Share Posted 23 April, 2016 Apart from Clyne I don't really rate any full backs in the prem this year. The usual suspects (Zabaleta, Colman, etc) just haven't performed. You need to watch a lot more Spurs and Arsenal games. And Leicester, while we're at it! Cedric's been good but not great, as Clyne was. We can't really use age as an excuse, as he's a couple of years older than Clyne was when he came to us. Moving to a new league is even bigger for some players though. I wouldn't be disappointed not to buy a right back in the summer but I would expect more from him next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marching Halos Posted 23 April, 2016 Share Posted 23 April, 2016 We have much better options in midfield going forward than Cedric! mane is better CF/ST, tadic is better on the left, jrod plays left or ST, long is better ST/CF, jwp and davis plays centre mid. who is our true right mid or winger???? (isgrove?) maybe the OX would be great but wishful thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 24 April, 2016 Share Posted 24 April, 2016 mane is better CF/ST, tadic is better on the left, jrod plays left or ST, long is better ST/CF, jwp and davis plays centre mid. who is our true right mid or winger???? (isgrove?) maybe the OX would be great but wishful thinking. For a team that crosses the ball as much we do I'm surprised we haven't invested in some proper old school wingers who can beat a man and deliver a good cross from the by-line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 24 April, 2016 Share Posted 24 April, 2016 Cedric is way short of clyne and short of being good enough for us. At the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 24 April, 2016 Share Posted 24 April, 2016 Read my post. Which bits do you actually disagree with? Its not about liking someone or not. The reply gave my opinion on the Cedric and then asked if you like any of our players as you are continually have a dig at someone and complain about SFC virtually every post, understand now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 24 April, 2016 Share Posted 24 April, 2016 Has had a couple of good games for us but so far i'm not blown away, seems weak on the ball and easy to get by, certainly not in the same league as clyne (technically he is though ) Thoughts? nowhere near the "Clyne who departed", but those fans with short memories have forgotten that the " newly-arrived Clyne" (in 2012) really was like a fish out of water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKsaint Posted 24 April, 2016 Share Posted 24 April, 2016 mane is better CF/ST, tadic is better on the left, jrod plays left or ST, long is better ST/CF, jwp and davis plays centre mid. who is our true right mid or winger???? (isgrove?) maybe the OX would be great but wishful thinking. Or chamber？ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFKA South Woodford Posted 24 April, 2016 Share Posted 24 April, 2016 Cedric played quite well yesterday, he had a hand in two goals, put in a few good crosses, was beating their full back a lot of the time including off of some weak return balls from Tadic, which only his pace gave him a chance of getting to and headed off of the line right at the end. So it's harsh to say he was poor. He certainly didn't get much help from Tadic whose movement, passing and decision-making were poor, but that'll be overlooked because of his two goals. He has been a solid replacement for Clyne overall and shown in a number of games that he is good going forward and others that he is good defensively too, he just needs to put both together more often. He had a great game in the win over West Ham, snuffing out any danger time after time, he was easily our best player that day and won us the points. With a long run in the team he will show how good he is & is a much better player than Martina who looks clueless in most games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 24 April, 2016 Share Posted 24 April, 2016 nowhere near the "Clyne who departed", but those fans with short memories have forgotten that the " newly-arrived Clyne" (in 2012) really was like a fish out of water. Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 24 April, 2016 Share Posted 24 April, 2016 The reply gave my opinion on the Cedric and then asked if you like any of our players as you are continually have a dig at someone and complain about SFC virtually every post, understand now I just said he is timid and attackers dominate him quite easily like the first goal yesterday after which VVD was going nuts at him. Think thats a perfectly valid opinion and nothing to do with whether I "like" him or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 24 April, 2016 Share Posted 24 April, 2016 nowhere near the "Clyne who departed", but those fans with short memories have forgotten that the " newly-arrived Clyne" (in 2012) really was like a fish out of water. I remember Clyne being pretty good from when he first joined. Certainly wasn't poor, although he obviously improved during him time with us. Fans were very pleased with him early on but realised he was playing in a defence with a poor left back and left sided CB and an out of his depth goalkeeper. He certainly added a lot in attack from the very start. Also worth remembering he was a lot more inexperienced than Cedric who joined aged few years older and with International and European experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sisi1992 Posted 24 April, 2016 Share Posted 24 April, 2016 Hes good going forward and provides pace down the right flank, but no where near as good defensively sadly, we neeto invest in a new RB this summer, that's one position we've been lacking in all season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 24 April, 2016 Share Posted 24 April, 2016 nowhere near the "Clyne who departed", but those fans with short memories have forgotten that the " newly-arrived Clyne" (in 2012) really was like a fish out of water. He was fine when he joined, had to deal with Hooiveld, Fox and Davis being in the back 5 which didn't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 24 April, 2016 Share Posted 24 April, 2016 He was fine when he joined, had to deal with Hooiveld, Fox and Davis being in the back 5 which didn't help. I think some fans don't realize how difficult it must have been for a defender to play alongside those three and still look good. Clyne and Fonte were just 2 patches in a leaky sieve. You could put the best 2 defenders in the world alongside Hooiveld, Fox and Davis, and you'd still have a terrible defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 24 April, 2016 Share Posted 24 April, 2016 Jos, N0. 26, in familiar pose last week: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXlIMLM1nRM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musesaint Posted 24 April, 2016 Share Posted 24 April, 2016 I rate him and you certainly can't fault his commitment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice2Eskimos Posted 24 April, 2016 Share Posted 24 April, 2016 I'll say the EXACT same thing about Cedric as I did about Clasie on the other thread. Get's bullied off the ball way to easily. That never happened with Clyne. Cedric needs half a stone of muscle and we might have a player somewhere close to Clyne. Replacing Clyne was always gonna be a big ask especially when we don't have gobs and gobs of cash to throw at a top rate RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pass the Dutchie Posted 24 April, 2016 Share Posted 24 April, 2016 Well done! Five posts in and four of them negative and the other one anticipating the negative. You'll fit right in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show me the mané Posted 24 April, 2016 Share Posted 24 April, 2016 Well done! Five posts in and four of them negative and the other one anticipating the negative. You'll fit right in. It's not negative it's realistic. Clasie and Cedric have been fairly lightweight this season. Certainly inconsistent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 24 April, 2016 Share Posted 24 April, 2016 It's not negative it's realistic. Clasie and Cedric have been fairly lightweight this season. Certainly inconsistent pretty much every member of the squad bar VVD could have that accusation leveled at them.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaffaSaint Posted 25 April, 2016 Share Posted 25 April, 2016 This Sent from my HUAWEI GRA-L09 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 25 April, 2016 Share Posted 25 April, 2016 Cedric has not lived up to my lofty expectations of him. I suspect that's more my fault than his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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