5string Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 A strangely disappointing win!! An interesting oxymoron! I have to disagree - no win is disappointing. It would have been nice to see a couple more goals, but JRod got a risk-free run out and we scored 3 goals. If we could be "disappointed" like that every week I'd be a strangely happy man.
Badger Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 Did you say Charlie Austin is on ? Hey Dalek, I think we're mathematically safe.
Ohio Saint Posted 9 April, 2016 Author Posted 9 April, 2016 An interesting oxymoron! . Hold on...Are you calling me an ox-like moron? Pistols at dawn sir!!!
5string Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 Hold on...Are you calling me an ox-like moron? Pistols at dawn sir!!!
Guan 2.0 Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 Lost intensity when we swapped JWP for Long, didn't get it back until the introduction of Romeu who provides a lot of drive whenever he is on the pitch.
Dalek2003 Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 Hey Dalek, I think we're mathematically safe. Sleep walking to safety.
Batman Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 good 1st half. apart from long, we look pretty average up front. 2nd half was poor. but no need to go all out to win when they are that bad Long was my MoM. Vic good Defence good - hardly tested thought the game completely and utterly passes clasie by. He was awful on corner duty. and this would have been one of the easiest he will get Pelle was A LOT worse when long went off. his static nature is highlighted in that sense. Took his goal well. really disappointed Rodriguez only came on with 10 mins to go. a good win without having to play that well. they are utterly terrible and are going down
austsaint Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 good 1st half. apart from long, we look pretty average up front. 2nd half was poor. but no need to go all out to win when they are that bad Long was my MoM. Vic good Defence good - hardly tested thought the game completely and utterly passes clasie by. He was awful on corner duty. and this would have been one of the easiest he will get Pelle was A LOT worse when long went off. his static nature is highlighted in that sense. Took his goal well. really disappointed Rodriguez only came on with 10 mins to go. a good win without having to play that well. they are utterly terrible and are going down Good summary, though I thought Mane played well stuck out on the right. Had a hand in all three goals and set up two gilt edged chances for Tadic and Long.
Pass the Dutchie Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 Pelle also set up Long for his goal. I think he had a pretty good game. Wijnaldum completely invisible this game. Would still want him for next season though.
Batman Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 Pelle also set up Long for his goal. I think he had a pretty good game. Wijnaldum completely invisible this game. Would still want him for next season though. hardly, long nicked it from him
Toadhall Saint Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 That'll do - nufc ****e and defo going down . Why did we give Townsend the inside? Bah
Saints Fan Dan Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 That'll do - nufc ****e and defo going down . Why did we give Townsend the inside? Bah Yeah that annoyed me, about the only thing Andros Townsend is good at and we let him do it. Whatever, good 3 points!
Baird of the land Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 Solid result. Don't really get the criticism of Clasie or Pelle. Felt both had decent games. Against better teams Clasie's defensive abilities will be more tested but thought he zipped the ball around nicely. Long was top quality again setting the tone with the early goal. Terrible touch for the assist for Pelle though. Wish i could see what would have been the result last week if Long had been available to cause problems for Leicester centre backs. Mane was good once again, on another day he would have got a goal to add to his good play. As for Newcastle, a terrible defence with Shelvey completely anonymous in the holding role. Amazing watching the difference in a Shelvey who scored a cracker against us for Swansea last year and this disinterested player. Part of me doesn't want Newcastle to go down because we have such an excellent record against them.
Saint Charlie Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 Pelle has scored or assisted 7 of our last 8 goals so he is doing fine. We played really well first half, aided by a woeful Newcastle and especially Steven Taylor who was as bad as Mike Williamson the last couple of years. Shane put in a trademark Long performance- running was good and he got a nice goal but his touch also let him down at times and we could have scored more. Thought Wanyama (excellent) and Clasie (improved from last few games) bossed the midfield despite being outnumbered. Great to see Jay back too and he looked sharp. Only negative was the total non-performance of JWP when he came on (that sub gave them a bit of initiative for 15mins as we had nobody running in behind). Koeman said after that Austin might have a meniscus injury which is a blow if he ends up needing surgery. It hasn't happened for him after that dream debut goal.
doddisalegend Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 Weird game thought we were pretty poor yet we won without really getting into second gear. Newcastle's defence is hilarious ?
Roger Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 good 1st half. apart from long, we look pretty average up front. 2nd half was poor. but no need to go all out to win when they are that bad Long was my MoM. Vic good Defence good - hardly tested thought the game completely and utterly passes clasie by. He was awful on corner duty. and this would have been one of the easiest he will get Pelle was A LOT worse when long went off. his static nature is highlighted in that sense. Took his goal well. really disappointed Rodriguez only came on with 10 mins to go. a good win without having to play that well. they are utterly terrible and are going down No way long mom. Pelle was superb throughout. Long great start but then made a few errors in possession. Mane mom for me was v good.
Jimmy_D Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 Weren't at our best today, especially after Long went off, but we really didn't need to be. Think Newcastle are the worst team I've seen at St Marys this season.
Batman Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 No way long mom. Pelle was superb throughout. Long great start but then made a few errors in possession. Mane mom for me was v good. it showed the moment Long went off.
Guan 2.0 Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 it showed the moment Long went off. Agreed. I was mystified why we swapped a harrying presence for a set piece specialist. Romeu a far more natural choice IMO.
Saint_Ash Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 Easy game. Never got out of second gear. Newcastle were woeful, so much for sitting back and frustrating us and trying to nick it, like they haven't done all season, what good that would do them seeing as they need about 10 goal swing in gd. Sat there and counted 7 players bombing forward at one point, they have some decent players but as a team they are poor. Long played well, as did Pelle and Mane scared them to death. 4 points off 4th, great day.
Saint Charlie Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 it showed the moment Long went off. It was an odd sub in terms of the attributes we added and lost, but don't think Long was totally on it today. Koeman said he felt dizzy second half and he wasn't as good on the ball as he has been of late. JWP was absolutely anonymous when he came on - in hindsight it would possibly have been good to swap Jay for Long and keep them pushed back.
Jonnyboy Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 one thing is for sure, Newcastle are going down What about Sunderland?
scotty Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 Foregone conclusion. I've been saying that all week. Just surprised we didn't win by more.
Sheaf Saint Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 I didn't get to watch the game today, but it sounds like it was a straightforward win against a very poor team. Shame we couldn't make it 4-0 for the third season in a row, but it's nice to finally beat one if the bottom 3 teams at home after the very disappointing performances against Villa and Sunderland. Still only 4 points off Citeh in 4th but with their games in hand I think it's unlikely we will make up that gap now with the fixtures we have got left. Our target now should be to overtake West Ham for 6th to guarantee Europa League next season. Can't see us doing any better than that really.
doddisalegend Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 JWP sub was odd I would have taken Pelle (even though he was decent) or Tadic off and played for the counter attack with Long and Mane once we were 3-0 up JWP just made us worse.
striker Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 Pelle has scored or assisted 7 of our last 8 goals so he is doing fine. We played really well first half, aided by a woeful Newcastle and especially Steven Taylor who was as bad as Mike Williamson the last couple of years. Shane put in a trademark Long performance- running was good and he got a nice goal but his touch also let him down at times and we could have scored more. Thought Wanyama (excellent) and Clasie (improved from last few games) bossed the midfield despite being outnumbered. Great to see Jay back too and he looked sharp. Only negative was the total non-performance of JWP when he came on (that sub gave them a bit of initiative for 15mins as we had nobody running in behind). Koeman said after that Austin might have a meniscus injury which is a blow if he ends up needing surgery. It hasn't happened for him after that dream debut goal. Nightmare second half of the season for Austin. Early on he was doing his normal thing, scoring something like 10 goals in 12 games for QPR (or close to this). Then he got the hamstring and never seems to have recovered. Perhaps they should just shut him down and start fresh next season.
saintwbu Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 It felt like the early goal made us realise we would cruise, fans and players alike, and the intensity was never really there. Predictably unfair criticism of Pelle as usual, thought he was brilliant, nice finish for his goal and some great touches to bring others into play, but most of all an absolutely sublime directed header/flick on to put Long in behind, really hope they show it on MOTD tonight. Long's energy was a huge loss when he got replaced, wonder if the clash with Darlow affected him more than it looked? Clasie's delivery from set pieces was absolutely woeful, as was 99% of his passing, and Wanyama's wasn't much better in the first half but he looked like a completely different beast in the second half and I loved his reaction to his goal, you can tell he has been frustrated by going all season without one and it seemed like the team were delighted for him. A strange, but good day at the office! Can't we play Newcastle at home every week..?
positivepete Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 I didn't get to watch the game today, but it sounds like it was a straightforward win against a very poor team. Shame we couldn't make it 4-0 for the third season in a row, but it's nice to finally beat one if the bottom 3 teams at home after the very disappointing performances against Villa and Sunderland. Still only 4 points off Citeh in 4th but with their games in hand I think it's unlikely we will make up that gap now with the fixtures we have got left. Our target now should be to overtake West Ham for 6th to guarantee Europa League next season. Can't see us doing any better than that really. We only got 4 points last season from the fixtures we have left. We need 10 points just to match last seasons final total and to stand any slim chance of another European tour.
stknowle Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 good 1st half. apart from long, we look pretty average up front. 2nd half was poor. but no need to go all out to win when they are that bad Long was my MoM. Vic good Defence good - hardly tested thought the game completely and utterly passes clasie by. He was awful on corner duty. and this would have been one of the easiest he will get Pelle was A LOT worse when long went off. his static nature is highlighted in that sense. Took his goal well. really disappointed Rodriguez only came on with 10 mins to go. a good win without having to play that well. they are utterly terrible and are going down Got to agree with the bits in bold. Just cannot see what Clasie offers other than hard work and getting stuck in which is not enough at this level, especially being so small. A more experienced JWP minus deadball ability. Newcastle are utterly 1 star. The worst team I've seen this year bar Villa who I think are the worst team I have ever seen in the prem.
Toadhall Saint Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 Got to agree with the bits in bold. Just cannot see what Clasie offers other than hard work and getting stuck in which is not enough at this level, especially being so small. A more experienced JWP minus deadball ability. Newcastle are utterly 1 star. The worst team I've seen this year bar Villa who I think are the worst team I have ever seen in the prem. I thought villa offered more tbh
Saint Charlie Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 (edited) Got to agree with the bits in bold. Just cannot see what Clasie offers other than hard work and getting stuck in which is not enough at this level, especially being so small. A more experienced JWP minus deadball ability. Newcastle are utterly 1 star. The worst team I've seen this year bar Villa who I think are the worst team I have ever seen in the prem. Clasie has attributes JWP doesn't and will never have: tenacity & desire to win duels being the obvious ones. Edited 9 April, 2016 by Saint Charlie
doddisalegend Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 Clasie has attributes JWP doesn't and will never has: tenacity & desire to win duels being the obvious ones. have to agree JWP was dire today just a wasted sub most weeks.
stknowle Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 I thought villa offered more tbh Disagree, but then forums would be pointless if we all held the same opinions.
stknowle Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 Clasie has attributes JWP doesn't and will never has: tenacity & desire to win duels being the obvious ones. They are the same type of player - small and uninspiring midfield workers. You may well be correct that Clasie shows "more tenacity and desire to win duels" but he can't deliver a decent dead ball and JWP can.
Saint Charlie Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 They are the same type of player - small and uninspiring midfield workers. You may well be correct that Clasie shows "more tenacity and desire to win duels" but he can't deliver a decent dead ball and JWP can. JWP needs to develop his game to offer more than set plays otherwise he will just remain a sub option later in games.
Roger Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 Clasie has attributes JWP doesn't and will never have: tenacity & desire to win duels being the obvious ones. They are the same type of player - small and uninspiring midfield workers. You may well be correct that Clasie shows "more tenacity and desire to win duels" but he can't deliver a decent dead ball and JWP can. Clasie much better defensively aswell and his corners were good today.
TwoPints Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 I thought the ref was decent today, not that he had too much to do though. Seemed to let the game flow more than most and didn't want to get his cards out at every opportunity which makes a nice change.
Toadhall Saint Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 Disagree, but then forums would be pointless if we all held the same opinions. Sorry I was talking about the villa of last year! [emoji56]
Batman Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 Clasie much better defensively aswell and his corners were good today. clasie's corners were good?
Appy Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 Clasie much better defensively aswell and his corners were good today. His corners were rubbish.
bazza Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 Good first half, not so good second. Wanyama and Long were great. Newcastle are definitely going down.
Charlie Wayman Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 The post match bewilderment reflected in this thread seems about right to me as a summary. What was that all about? I'm looking forward to The True Geordie's take on it. The Toon are really bad 'though, worse even than Villa on this showing. Wanyama was my MotM for his total control of the centre of the park and his avoidance of the mandatory yellow card. JWP was awful, simply woeful today he just seemed unable to get to grips with any aspect of the game. Why they persist with him is anybody's guess. Romeu was clearly a better option when Long had to be withdrawn. Negative comments about Clasie are unfair, he played solidly today and was always providing room for the outball from the back four, still some people on here seem to have a mindset that he is lightweight and nothing on this earth will make them see anything good in the lad.
warsash saint Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 Only on SaintsWeb after a good win do you you get more people moaning about the performance & slagging players off!!
DuncanRG Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 Clasie was also one of the trio at fault for letting Townsend inside to shoot. He didn't have a great game today but he's a perfectly good player. Got a bit too excited getting forward at times but when he was in position he was blocking off service to Perez and Mitrovic very well.
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