St Lej Posted 8 April, 2016 Posted 8 April, 2016 I think that goal in the 2011 Asia cup final got a lot of people very excited and enhanced our expectations of him , thus buying him a lot of leeway for picking up constant niggles and generally being a bit turd. A classic case of a player who was all fart and no ****. Over-hyped to the max by various local media , but actually wasn't very good.
Mr Biscuits Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 Never really got the chance though did he due to that injury
david in sweden Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 (edited) Strange thread? ...so many people are quick to judge players in their first season, and often before they've had a chance to settle in. Tadanari Lee was such a player. I can think of several contributors on here who condemned Sadio Mane (..worse than Ali Dia )..said one, early on in his first season. ..and Shane Long (get rid of and try to get money back)....when they arrived. Noted that RK recently said that Long " was a bargain at only £12 million." He made barely a dozen starts before being crocked, but the You Tube clip Tadanari LEE 2011-12 shows a bit of action from just a few of the televised games. Seemed to me, he had quite a bit of pace, and more than a little skill.. I counted 3 assists as well as that spectacular goal (v.Derby) seen in the first 20 seconds. We'll never know what Lee may have achieved had he stayed, but the injury he sustained certainly put pay to any thoughts of a successful Prem. career. Edited 9 April, 2016 by david in sweden
SaintBitterne Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 I know it's the end of the season and we may be running out of things to talk about, but this is scraping the barrel to say the least
Saint Charlie Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 Chungy is just never fit but has a great attitude and is a lovely lad. Didn't see him in the training pics again yesterday though. Has he even made an appearance under RonK?
St Lej Posted 9 April, 2016 Author Posted 9 April, 2016 Chungy is just never fit but has a great attitude and is a lovely lad. Didn't see him in the training pics again yesterday though. Has he even made an appearance under RonK? There's a possibility he may be on the bench today from what I've heard. An impact sub where he can make his legendary clever runs against tiring defenders.
beatlesaint Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 To answer your question seriously I dont believe he was our most overrated player ever. To me he looked quite useful, i know everyone talks about the goal against Derby as his finest moment but I remember his contribution against Barnsley the same season. Then he got injured, dropped out of favour and that was that. Who knows what might have happened but for that injury. Shame really.
percy windham Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 Chungy is just never fit but has a great attitude and is a lovely lad. Didn't see him in the training pics again yesterday though. Has he even made an appearance under RonK? With Shane Long out last week, it was the ideal time to play him. Alas, Ronko obviously didn't see it that way. A shame, a real shame.
Saint Charlie Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 With Shane Long out last week, it was the ideal time to play him. Alas, Ronko obviously didn't see it that way. A shame, a real shame. RonK is too obsessed with Pelle to even notice Chung unfortunately.
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 RonK is too obsessed with Pelle to even notice Chung unfortunately. So would you play him instead of Pelle then.....?
Joneth Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 I didn't realise he was still here to be honest. Did he sign on a 5 year deal or something? Much rather see the youth players get an opportunity ahead of a player who other than a handful of bright games about 4 years ago has effectively stolen a living. Sent from my MotoG3 using Tapatalk
Saint Charlie Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 So would you play him instead of Pelle then.....? Every time. Has bags of potential and cuts through defences like a samurai.
davayy Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 I didn't realise he was still here to be honest. Did he sign on a 5 year deal or something? Much rather see the youth players get an opportunity ahead of a player who other than a handful of bright games about 4 years ago has effectively stolen a living. Sent from my MotoG3 using Tapatalk It's a real shame he has to sit in the Staplewood Cafe preparing tea for the players instead of training! Bloody Cortese signing! In reality, I don't think he was overrated at all. His goal against Derby was good, and I think I just remember fans being genuinely pleased for him when he scored; however, he also had several contributions later on which were pretty important. Someone mentioned that Barnsley game, another was the Leeds game (1-0) when he assisted Rickie with a lovely cushioned header across goal for Lambert to smash home. He was actually quite a smart player, his runs were normally fast, on-side and direct...we just lacked the final ball to find him. He was also a hard worker. He tracked back alot and did alot of covering for players out of position. Not quite sure why this thread had emerged, but it provided a nice trip down memory lane..
sadoldgit Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 He was okay. Plenty more up for that accolade. Some old folk might remember Alan McLoughlin, our first million pound player. Total pants for us.
Dig Dig Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 He played really well for the U-21's the other day. Maybe rumours of his after dark activities with Harrison Reed on the Worthing night scene are holding him back from the first team?
Faz Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 Was he rated that highly? I thought he was alright, needed more luck with injuries but probably could have been a really good championship striker. Didn't he injure himself skiing? Idiot.
Mowgli Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 I think that goal in the 2011 Asia cup final got a lot of people very excited and enhanced our expectations of him , thus buying him a lot of leeway for picking up constant niggles and generally being a bit turd. A classic case of a player who was all fart and no ****. Over-hyped to the max by various local media , but actually wasn't very good. You've not been following Saints very long have you...
S-Clarke Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 The problem is that we didn't have anyone on his same wavelength to pick up his runs.
Batman Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 The problem is that we didn't have anyone on his same wavelength to pick up his runs. like papa waigo, yes?
SW5 SAINT Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 He played really well for the U-21's the other day. Maybe rumours of his after dark activities with Harrison Reed on the Worthing night scene are holding him back from the first team? Worthing has a night scene?
bpsaint Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 To me Tadanari Lee was signed more so to get the club some exposure in the Far East more than for his football ability. Was an OK player but clearly didn't suit the English game. Certainly not our most overrated player though, Gaston and Osvsldo are way ahead on that front.
bazza Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 i thought he was unlucky at Saints. Deserved more of a chance.
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 Brett Ormerod is our most overrated player Sent from my HTC One M9 using Tapatalk
Dark Munster Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 I think there is a misunderstanding of the term overrated. It means an ordinary player who is/was widely rated by many. Gaston and that head-butting shit, for example, weren't overrated, simply because most of us never rated either of them. Likewise Mr. Lee. My nomination for the most overrated is mistress Oakley.
sandwichsaint Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 I think there is a misunderstanding of the term overrated. It means an ordinary player who is/was widely rated by many. Gaston and that head-butting shit, for example, weren't overrated, simply because most of us never rated either of them. Likewise Mr. Lee. My nomination for the most overrated is mistress Oakley. I'll see your Matt Oakley and raise you an Anders Svensson.
JackFrost Posted 10 April, 2016 Posted 10 April, 2016 I certainly remember quite a bit of optimism in our premier league relegation season when we signed Olivier Bernard
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 10 April, 2016 Posted 10 April, 2016 Never going to beat Gaston Ramirez Aye - the proverbial "next big thing" who soon became a object of small desire. But that Saganowski had about two good games, acquired a dedicated group of fans on here, and then did bugger-all for the rest of his contract here. On the other hand I would say that Michail Antonio was probably one of the most underrated players St Mary's has seen in recent years.
cellone Posted 10 April, 2016 Posted 10 April, 2016 Chris Baird. What have I won. Sent from my E6853 using Tapatalk
Dark Munster Posted 10 April, 2016 Posted 10 April, 2016 I'll see your Matt Oakley and raise you an Anders Svensson. I'll see your Anders Svensson and raise you a Frannie Benali.
cellone Posted 10 April, 2016 Posted 10 April, 2016 I'll see your Anders Svensson and raise you a Frannie Benali. Never overrated ?? Sent from my E6853 using Tapatalk
Dark Munster Posted 10 April, 2016 Posted 10 April, 2016 Never overrated Sent from my E6853 using Tapatalk He's a "legend" apparently!
cellone Posted 10 April, 2016 Posted 10 April, 2016 More of a cult. ? Sent from my E6853 using Tapatalk
Saint Without a Halo Posted 10 April, 2016 Posted 10 April, 2016 Agustin Delgado Ramierez Osvaldo must all stake a more credible claim we could add the shearer Wallace replacements of Speedie and Dixon even Charlie George despite a few good games never got going also Forren never even got a start and cost a few million Neil Mcann (can't) most of Redkrapps buys to mention just a few There are So many more deserving candidates than Lee
Saint86 Posted 10 April, 2016 Posted 10 April, 2016 I think that goal in the 2011 Asia cup final got a lot of people very excited and enhanced our expectations of him , thus buying him a lot of leeway for picking up constant niggles and generally being a bit turd. A classic case of a player who was all fart and no ****. Over-hyped to the max by various local media , but actually wasn't very good. It is not possible to give this award to anyone but Sir Tommy Forepast. Really makes me question your place as a saints fan if you don't this...
cellone Posted 10 April, 2016 Posted 10 April, 2016 It is not possible to give this award to anyone but Sir Tommy Forepast. Really makes me question your place as a saints fan if you don't this... I'm not sure I have ever heard him being praised by fans. ?? Sent from my E6853 using Tapatalk
Dark Munster Posted 10 April, 2016 Posted 10 April, 2016 I'm not sure I have ever heard him being praised by fans. Sent from my E6853 using Tapatalk This. Again there seems to be confusion about being crap and being overrated.
cellone Posted 11 April, 2016 Posted 11 April, 2016 For me it's Paul the goals this way Telfer and Chris stop stop stop oh **** they've scored Baird. I knew quite a few that thought they were great but couldn't see it myself. Sent from my E6853 using Tapatalk
ashnats Posted 11 April, 2016 Posted 11 April, 2016 I think that the gap between "arguably decent", and "crap" (e.g. Paul telfer, chris baird, Lee and the like) is probably smaller than the gap between 'best player in the world' and "one of the best players in england", so I'll go for MLT as the most over rated.
Saint Without a Halo Posted 11 April, 2016 Posted 11 April, 2016 I think that the gap between "arguably decent", and "crap" (e.g. Paul telfer, chris baird, Lee and the like) is probably smaller than the gap between 'best player in the world' and "one of the best players in england", so I'll go for MLT as the most over rated. but LeTiss was "out of this world" so your argument fails!
cellone Posted 11 April, 2016 Posted 11 April, 2016 but LeTiss was "out of this world" so your argument fails! Fact. Sent from my E6853 using Tapatalk
Saint Charlie Posted 11 April, 2016 Posted 11 April, 2016 Chung Lee playing in a behind closed doors U21 friendly this week apparently.
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