jawillwill Posted 3 April, 2016 Share Posted 3 April, 2016 Can someone explain the benefits of this chant on a day like today? Just as the home fans were starting to get a little bit tense and quiten down in the first half, Saints fans sung it. Inevitably it woke the Leicester fans up and less than a minute later they scored. I'm not saying it directly contributed to the goal but it made us look a bit silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 3 April, 2016 Share Posted 3 April, 2016 Almost as stupid as chanting your gonna win the league. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised with the amount of half and Half scarves at our games now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 3 April, 2016 Share Posted 3 April, 2016 I thought for a team in their position, their support and atmosphere was poor. Clapper rubbish and a drum? Decent at the end but to be expected considering where they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 3 April, 2016 Share Posted 3 April, 2016 Wouldn't say it contributed to the goal, was just a bit ill timed. Any fanbase that require "clappers" to create an atmosphere, especially when they're top of the league, deserve a bit of **** taking IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 3 April, 2016 Share Posted 3 April, 2016 Wouldn't say it contributed to the goal, was just a bit ill timed. Any fanbase that require "clappers" to create an atmosphere, especially when they're top of the league, deserve a bit of **** taking IMO. So why didn't we then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 3 April, 2016 Share Posted 3 April, 2016 The last couple of times we have handed out the inflatable clapper things at St Mary's the kids have by and large ignored them which is good to see. Nothing today was more embarrassing than the big flag and hoardings wishing their Chairman a happy birthday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK the 2nd Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 In any game I see no point in waking up the opposing fans whether it be "is this a library", "you're support is ******* ****" etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsarum Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 Spot on if the opposing fans are quiet, don't stir them up and get them going, you've won the battle, leave them quiet, when will a section of our fans realise this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 (edited) Some of our fans were cringworthy yesterday , singing "you're going to win the league" and wearing" Leicester city premier league champions" scarfs ffs , have a word with yourself if anyone reading this did so and **** off and support them because you're certainly not saints fans! Edited 4 April, 2016 by simo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 One of the disadvantages of not having a home end at Southampton is that those of our fans who do sing have got used to lurking in the corners of the away end, baiting the away fans. If you ask them why, they say this is what creates atmosphere. Not, it isn't. This is what stirs up even more support for our opponents, It would be great if our young fans learned to support Saints but it just doesn't seem to be part of their culture nowadays. Also, they may have noticed yesterday that when you stick the away fans in the corner of the stadium, which is where our singers choose to sit at home games, you hardly notice them. It's been known for decades that you have most influence on the game directly behind the goals, and that's why the best kops all over the world choose to locate there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 Close to giving up on the lot of it soon. Someone in our end with a Leicester scarf, retards by our coaches singing you're gonna win the league, and 2,000 Saints fans stood in silence for 90 minutes. Our support has been lost completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 Close to giving up on the lot of it soon. Someone in our end with a Leicester scarf, retards by our coaches singing you're gonna win the league, and 2,000 Saints fans stood in silence for 90 minutes. Our support has been lost completely. One of the reasons for this is the pricing structure at St Mary's, which encourages younger fans to sit quietly with their parents in the Family Stand. The prices for unaccompanied youngsters are ridiculously high so young fans never get used to going to games with their mates and making noise. Leicester's owner has worked at encouraging support the home support there. Unless the club takes some steps to encourage a home kop in the Chapel Stand, it's never going to happen, and we're going to go from the near silence at games this season to total silence in future, apart from the songs about Pompey that is, which seems to be the only team our fans sing about nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 Close to giving up on the lot of it soon. Someone in our end with a Leicester scarf, retards by our coaches singing you're gonna win the league, and 2,000 Saints fans stood in silence for 90 minutes. Our support has been lost completely. the cost of going to games is just way too high. in a post cortese era, we have seen no real improvement on ticket pricing. disgustingly high to make it a regular thing I think where do groups of young-ish lads, who are more likely make said noise going to get the money from to attend regularly, home and away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 One of the reasons for this is the pricing structure at St Mary's, which encourages younger fans to sit quietly with their parents in the Family Stand. The prices for unaccompanied youngsters are ridiculously high so young fans never get used to going to games with their mates and making noise. Leicester's owner has worked at encouraging support the home support there. Unless the club takes some steps to encourage a home kop in the Chapel Stand, it's never going to happen, and we're going to go from the near silence at games this season to total silence in future, apart from the songs about Pompey that is, which seems to be the only team our fans sing about nowadays. But our home support is decent, better than the vast majority of other clubs. The problem is with our away support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 Our home support is terrible. I've been supporting Saints since the 1960s and this is the quietest I've ever known it. The only people who think it's 'decent' are the ones who sit in the corners of the away end because they can hear themselves. The problem is because they are hidden away in the corners, the rest of the stadium can't hear them and so there is very little to join in with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 Our home support is terrible. I've been supporting Saints since the 1960s and this is the quietest I've ever known it. The only people who think it's 'decent' are the ones who sit in the corners of the away end because they can hear themselves. The problem is because they are hidden away in the corners, the rest of the stadium can't hear them and so there is very little to join in with. Which clubs, across the top three leagues in English football, have you been to and thought they have a better home atmosphere than us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 The last couple of times we have handed out the inflatable clapper things at St Mary's the kids have by and large ignored them which is good to see. Nothing today was more embarrassing than the big flag and hoardings wishing their Chairman a happy birthday. That's a bit harsh, if we were 4 games away from winning the PL and ML (God rest his soul) was sat up in the stands overseeing the club he'd rebuilt and enjoying his birthday I'm pretty sure we would all have been 100% behind any birthday celebrations. On a semi-related note it was 6 years yesterday that we won the JPT at Wembley, a bit of a better atmosphere at that one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 Some of our fans were cringworthy yesterday , singing "you're going to win the league" and wearing" Leicester city premier league champions" scarfs ffs , have a word with yourself if anyone reading this did so and **** off and support them because you're certainly not saints fans! I'm with you. Would never do it but would not go as far as to tell others how to behave. It actually reflected well on there club that fans could be so gracious in defeat judging by the posts on twitter. Helps to make it more of a family day out than being dominated by the neanderthal minority. Edit: Actually I do have a half and half scarf at home somewhere. Seemed a good idea at the time and I blame it on the cheap booze ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 Forgot to add that it was in Bucharest that the scarf came from #poorexcuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 Nothing today was more embarrassing than the big flag and hoardings wishing their Chairman a happy birthday. Yep and some weirdo gave him a birthday card and present. As if he gives a toss! Makes you wonder what goes on in the heads of some fans, not very much apparently. I know, I know pile in chaps - we all like a cheap joke at somebody else's expense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 Close to giving up on the lot of it soon. Someone in our end with a Leicester scarf, retards by our coaches singing you're gonna win the league, and 2,000 Saints fans stood in silence for 90 minutes. Our support has been lost completely. Oh dont go your weekly appraisals of our support will be missed, we wont know how to do it without you:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 Even Troy Deeney has noticed; "I don't want to sound too critical, but a lot of fans at some grounds I go to have got cameras in their hands, taking pictures of anything rather than generating any atmosphere during the game. "At Leicester, it was all about getting behind their team." Troy Deeney was speaking to BBC Sport's Chris Bevan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 But our home support is decent, better than the vast majority of other clubs. The problem is with our away support. Rubbish. Our home support is poor and our away support is usually good. Leicester home support is very good and they create an atmosphere as noted by players and pundits. It has nothing to do with it being a lack of young kids, its about the way our ground is organised, and because there are too many people who think it is embarrassing to do things like use clappers as Leicester do, which whether you like them or not actually makes an atmosphere, just like the old football rattles did in the old days. Look at the crowd, its not just young kids using the clappers, its people of all ages and in all parts of the ground. Instead of mocking a Club that actually does things right, people should learn lessons from them, and not be "embarrassed" by such things as clappers, foam hands and so on. But the main thing is at St Mary's the ground needs to be re-organised so that there is a home end, until that happens our home support will continue to be poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 Rubbish. Our home support is poor and our away support is usually good. Leicester home support is very good and they create an atmosphere as noted by players and pundits. It has nothing to do with it being a lack of young kids, its about the way our ground is organised, and because there are too many people who think it is embarrassing to do things like use clappers as Leicester do, which whether you like them or not actually makes an atmosphere, just like the old football rattles did in the old days. Look at the crowd, its not just young kids using the clappers, its people of all ages and in all parts of the ground. Instead of mocking a Club that actually does things right, people should learn lessons from them, and not be "embarrassed" by such things as clappers, foam hands and so on. But the main thing is at St Mary's the ground needs to be re-organised so that there is a home end, until that happens our home support will continue to be poor. You think Leicester's atmosphere is much better than ours? Out of interest, which clubs do we have better away support than? And which grounds have a better home atmosphere than St Marys now? Having said that, if you're a grown man that thinks drums and clappers are a good thing, we're probably both wasting our time here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 You think Leicester's atmosphere is much better than ours? Out of interest, which clubs do we have better away support than? And which grounds have a better home atmosphere than St Marys now? Having said that, if you're a grown man that thinks drums and clappers are a good thing, we're probably both wasting our time here. BIB Leicester Spurs West Ham Liverpool Stoke Everton Bournemouth Swansea Palace Norwich Sunderland At home, on the basis of creating an atmosphere that gets behind the team, our support is ****ing ****. If you read that last bit in italics as constructive criticism there is still hope. If you automatically sung it in your head to the tune of Cwm Rhondda then you're part of the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 BIB Leicester Spurs West Ham Liverpool Stoke Everton Bournemouth Swansea Palace Norwich Sunderland At home, on the basis of creating an atmosphere that gets behind the team, our support is ****ing ****. If you read that last bit in italics as constructive criticism there is still hope. If you automatically sung it in your head to the tune of Cwm Rhondda then you're part of the problem. Sunderland has been silent every time we've been there in the last 10 years, as has Everton, Liverpool, Spurs and West Ham. Swansea and Norwich sung about twice last time we went there, the Itchen does more every game, let alone the Northam. Were you at our game away at Bournemouth? A historic 2-0 win against their big, local rivals and you think that is a good atmosphere? Imagine us in that context against the skates. Palace were quiet against us - I appreciate at times they can make a fair bit of noise, but generally play up to the attention of being on tv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 Sunderland has been silent every time we've been there in the last 10 years, as has Everton, Liverpool, Spurs and West Ham. Swansea and Norwich sung about twice last time we went there, the Itchen does more every game, let alone the Northam. Were you at our game away at Bournemouth? A historic 2-0 win against their big, local rivals and you think that is a good atmosphere? Imagine us in that context against the skates. Palace were quiet against us - I appreciate at times they can make a fair bit of noise, but generally play up to the attention of being on tv. No, I rarely even go to home games nowadays let alone away games due to a combination of work commitments, cost and general lack of enjoyment due to the lack of atmosphere nowadays. But I watch 1 or 2 live tv games every week and unless by some weird quirk of fate the tv microphones are deliberately muted around the home sections of SMS (and for some even weirder reason turned up a few notches in front of the away section) but not at any other ground in the country then I'd stand by my list. Claiming any ground is silent is simple nonsense. But for every team that you claim only sung about twice when you were there I'd hazard a bet you'd find some of their fans go home saying exactly the same after a trip to SMS . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 BIB Leicester Spurs West Ham Liverpool Stoke Everton Bournemouth Swansea Palace Norwich Sunderland At home, on the basis of creating an atmosphere that gets behind the team, our support is ****ing ****. If you read that last bit in italics as constructive criticism there is still hope. If you automatically sung it in your head to the tune of Cwm Rhondda then you're part of the problem. Liverpool, you have to be joking, right? You might as well added Man Utd then and Arsenal then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 No, I rarely even go to home games nowadays let alone away games Well that's the end of that conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 No, I rarely even go to home games nowadays let alone away games due to a combination of work commitments, cost and general lack of enjoyment due to the lack of atmosphere nowadays. But I watch 1 or 2 live tv games every week and unless by some weird quirk of fate the tv microphones are deliberately muted around the home sections of SMS (and for some even weirder reason turned up a few notches in front of the away section) but not at any other ground in the country then I'd stand by my list. Claiming any ground is silent is simple nonsense. But for every team that you claim only sung about twice when you were there I'd hazard a bet you'd find some of their fans go home saying exactly the same after a trip to SMS . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 Modern football stadiums can generate great atmosphere, but it really depends on the opposition and the state of the game. The end of the Liverpool game was amazing ( although there were still people leaving early) but like other side's we seem to react to what's happening on the pitch rather than inspire the players by creating a great atmosphere. At home ourr " song sheet " is woeful , too many moaners and too many early leavers for my liking , but I'm sure people will point out that when people pay their money they can leave when they want. Away games are a lot better , but we're still pretty quiet unless we're winning . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 BIB Leicester Spurs West Ham Liverpool Stoke Everton Bournemouth Swansea Palace Norwich Sunderland At home, on the basis of creating an atmosphere that gets behind the team, our support is ****ing ****. If you read that last bit in italics as constructive criticism there is still hope. If you automatically sung it in your head to the tune of Cwm Rhondda then you're part of the problem. You clearly don't have a clue if you think most of those are decent! I've been to all of them recently (bar Sunderland and Everton) and this is my opinion on them all Leicester - championship season, a small corner of "ultras" that couldn't have been more than at best 100. Poor in noise and spent the whole time banging a drum. Spurs - Genuinely one of, if not the, quietest ground in London. Absolutely shockingly dire and even Spurs fans themselvs admit to it. West Ham - Hit and miss, there's still needle in Upton Park when they want but most of the time it's pretty drab apart from the section to the left of the away support. Liverpool - Utter joke, one of the single worst atmosphere's in the country. Stoke - Probably about the same kind of noise as us. Bournemouth - lot of day trippers and part time fans. Palace - Great at making noise about themselves on social media but whenever we've played there have been easily drowned out by the away support. Used to be one of the single worst atmospheres in any league. Norwich - Always thought they were pretty under rated to be fair and in my experience the loudest bunch in this group, still don't think Carrow road is any better than St Mary's though. As with others who go away regularly i'd say St Mary's is easily as good as any ground in the Premier League and at least has two sections (Itchen/Northam & Kingsland north) that actually try and make noise every game, also when the Kingsland main gets involved it can be very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 You clearly don't have a clue if you think most of those are decent! I've been to all of them recently (bar Sunderland and Everton) and this is my opinion on them all Leicester - championship season, a small corner of "ultras" that couldn't have been more than at best 100. Poor in noise and spent the whole time banging a drum. Spurs - Genuinely one of, if not the, quietest ground in London. Absolutely shockingly dire and even Spurs fans themselvs admit to it. West Ham - Hit and miss, there's still needle in Upton Park when they want but most of the time it's pretty drab apart from the section to the left of the away support. Liverpool - Utter joke, one of the single worst atmosphere's in the country. Stoke - Probably about the same kind of noise as us. Bournemouth - lot of day trippers and part time fans. Palace - Great at making noise about themselves on social media but whenever we've played there have been easily drowned out by the away support. Used to be one of the single worst atmospheres in any league. Norwich - Always thought they were pretty under rated to be fair and in my experience the loudest bunch in this group, still don't think Carrow road is any better than St Mary's though. As with others who go away regularly i'd say St Mary's is easily as good as any ground in the Premier League and at least has two sections (Itchen/Northam & Kingsland north) that actually try and make noise every game, also when the Kingsland main gets involved it can be very good. Everton is by far and away the worst of the bunch. They don't have any visible standing area at all where any noise comes from. I don't have a huge problem with our home support. Away from home we're getting progressively worse. It's as if everyone from the Chapel is travelling away, choosing to stand in silence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 Everton is by far and away the worst of the bunch. They don't have any visible standing area at all where any noise comes from. I don't have a huge problem with our home support. Away from home we're getting progressively worse. It's as if everyone from the Chapel is travelling away, choosing to stand in silence. The away support these days is really f*cking odd, far more people travelling on the bingo bus and pubs seem to have as many people wanting to take selfies for social media as they do lads on the ****. Shame really because our numbers are some of the best i can remember, and if we could turn out those numbers with the vocal element we had in league one and the championship we'd be up there with any in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 Home support is fine, our away support has been terrible for ages, the only song our fans seem interested in singing is OWTS or the hilarious "you're ****ing ****". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 The away support these days is really f*cking odd, far more people travelling on the bingo bus and pubs seem to have as many people wanting to take selfies for social media as they do lads on the ****. Shame really because our numbers are some of the best i can remember, and if we could turn out those numbers with the vocal element we had in league one and the championship we'd be up there with any in the league. I spent a few minutes yesterday gazing around at our support to look at the demographic. The group which could be suggested as lads or casuals was microscopic in comparison to say families, groups of 50 year olds in replica shirts, the half and half scarfers etc. As much as any of these support Saints by turning up they are crucially not doing so in terms of atmosphere. Still, they probably have a right good knees up on the bingo bus on the way home while uploading pics of them pulling wacky faces and videos of themselves clapping the opposition. I'd put our home support as average. Can be good, can be reasonably quiet. Not a lot different to many others, however unlike us a lot of these claim to be something special when they just aren't or are living on past glories when they used to make a bit of a racket but don't anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 The general problem I have is that the vast majority of people who whinge about our support don't seem to do much (if anything) to improve it themselves. Try starting a few songs rather than turning around having a pop at people around you - you never know, they might join in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 The general problem I have is that the vast majority of people who whinge about our support don't seem to do much (if anything) to improve it themselves. Try starting a few songs rather than turning around having a pop at people around you - you never know, they might join in. I tend to start songs at virtually every game, the combination of being tone deaf and half ****ed might well explain why others don't join in with me though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakkoUK Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 The general problem I have is that the vast majority of people who whinge about our support don't seem to do much (if anything) to improve it themselves. Try starting a few songs rather than turning around having a pop at people around you - you never know, they might join in. That is exactly it, it only takes a few people to start a song to get a crowd going. Perhaps instead of moaning about the support actually attempt to do something about it yourselves! I bet most of you who are complaining don't even make the trip to away games, instead moan behind your computer screens and it's funny these 'the atmosphere is ****' comments come out after a defeat.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 That is exactly it, it only takes a few people to start a song to get a crowd going. Perhaps instead of moaning about the support actually attempt to do something about it yourselves! I bet most of you who are complaining don't even make the trip to away games, instead moan behind your computer screens and it's funny these 'the atmosphere is ****' comments come out after a defeat.. There's always plenty of people trying. Me and those around me yesterday were trying for most of the game and very rarely did it spread throughout our support. Same every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 You clearly don't have a clue if you think most of those are decent! I've been to all of them recently (bar Sunderland and Everton) and this is my opinion on them all Leicester - championship season, a small corner of "ultras" that couldn't have been more than at best 100. Poor in noise and spent the whole time banging a drum. Spurs - Genuinely one of, if not the, quietest ground in London. Absolutely shockingly dire and even Spurs fans themselvs admit to it. West Ham - Hit and miss, there's still needle in Upton Park when they want but most of the time it's pretty drab apart from the section to the left of the away support. Liverpool - Utter joke, one of the single worst atmosphere's in the country. Stoke - Probably about the same kind of noise as us. Bournemouth - lot of day trippers and part time fans. Palace - Great at making noise about themselves on social media but whenever we've played there have been easily drowned out by the away support. Used to be one of the single worst atmospheres in any league. Norwich - Always thought they were pretty under rated to be fair and in my experience the loudest bunch in this group, still don't think Carrow road is any better than St Mary's though. As with others who go away regularly i'd say St Mary's is easily as good as any ground in the Premier League and at least has two sections (Itchen/Northam & Kingsland north) that actually try and make noise every game, also when the Kingsland main gets involved it can be very good. I've admitted I rarely go to games these days so I'm judging grounds as to how they come across on live tv, and comparing them with how SMS comes across on live tv (and tv often actually sounds better than when I'm actually there, I sit in block2 when I do go) But it also seems many on here are relating "atmosphere" to "how many songs are sung". For me a rendition of "shoot the pompey scum" when the team's backs are against the wall does nothing to help them. For me atmosphere is all about intimidating the opposition team, making sure the ref knows he's wrong for every 50-50 decision that goes against us, and roaring our team on with encouragement as we break forward / take a corner / make yet another defensive clearance as we hang on for 3 points. I get some people not wanting to sing but the kind of atmosphere I'm talking about should be coming for all areas of the ground. That's where - apart from the odd out of the blue performance like the Liverpool game - we seem to be lacking compared with many other grounds IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 I've admitted I rarely go to games these days so I'm judging grounds as to how they come across on live tv, and comparing them with how SMS comes across on live tv (and tv often actually sounds better than when I'm actually there, I sit in block2 when I do go) But it also seems many on here are relating "atmosphere" to "how many songs are sung". For me a rendition of "shoot the pompey scum" when the team's backs are against the wall does nothing to help them. For me atmosphere is all about intimidating the opposition team, making sure the ref knows he's wrong for every 50-50 decision that goes against us, and roaring our team on with encouragement as we break forward / take a corner / make yet another defensive clearance as we hang on for 3 points. I get some people not wanting to sing but the kind of atmosphere I'm talking about should be coming for all areas of the ground. That's where - apart from the odd out of the blue performance like the Liverpool game - we seem to be lacking compared with many other grounds IMO. St Mary's is much better at that than most to be honest, although that isn't saying much. Goodison, Anfield, WHL, Emirates, Stamford Bridge are all completely silent apart from when there's a goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 I've said it before, there just isn't any edge going to our away games anymore which changes the fan dynamic and atmosphere. When we were challenging for promotion there was a lot at stake on the pitch and we were also a big club who were not well liked by other smaller clubs we came up against, now days we're seen as irrelevant by most clubs, no rivalry or threat. We need an old school relegation battle to get it going again. Atmosphere at Norwich v Newcastle sounded good - you can sense what was at stake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 Can someone explain the benefits of this chant on a day like today? Just as the home fans were starting to get a little bit tense and quiten down in the first half, Saints fans sung it. Inevitably it woke the Leicester fans up and less than a minute later they scored. I'm not saying it directly contributed to the goal but it made us look a bit silly. Actually, "is this a library" preceded absolutely no response from their fans for a few minutes until the goal. It was a stupid song, however, because that was literally the first time they'd shut up in the entire match to begin with. There's a lot to be said for having the entire ground ALL singing almost all the time, and I'd actually forgotten what it was like, because it's been years since I've seen that anywhere. It's also nothing like as silly as when BadBoySaint ran half the width of the away section with his chubby tits out to goad their fans when we scored an equaliser in the Championship in the mid 2000s, only to get over to them JUST as they scored again. That was hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 You think Leicester's atmosphere is much better than ours? Out of interest, which clubs do we have better away support than? And which grounds have a better home atmosphere than St Marys now? Having said that, if you're a grown man that thinks drums and clappers are a good thing, we're probably both wasting our time here. Leicester's atmosphere on Sunday was absolutely streets ahead of any other Prem ground I've been to since we've been back up, and I go to about 10 aways a season. Clappers certainly help make noise, but they were also all singing all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 BIB Leicester Spurs West Ham Liverpool Stoke Everton Bournemouth Swansea Palace Norwich Sunderland At home, on the basis of creating an atmosphere that gets behind the team, our support is ****ing ****. If you read that last bit in italics as constructive criticism there is still hope. If you automatically sung it in your head to the tune of Cwm Rhondda then you're part of the problem. Of that list, I'd say Leicester, Norwich and Stoke are the only ones which are definitely better than ours. I haven't been to West Ham since 2012 but they were pretty loud then (as they should be for a promotion 6 pointer). Palace have about 40 people who make all of their noise and they sing mickey mouse songs and have a drum, the rest of them aren't up to much. Leicester's main problem yesterday was their tedious repetition of the muppet Prem songs (mainly Palace's fault). Everton are alright but have the benefit of an old school ground with decent acoustics. Liverpool's support is absolutely abysmal nowadays, they sing twice a match and when they score, entire stands where one person sings and everyone looks at them weirdly. The problem with judging from the tv is that they turn the balance down depending on the type of atmosphere they want to create. The last couple of times I've been an Anfield I haven't heard a peep, and we've been screaming abuse at the likes of Lallana and Lovren and you could hardly hear it on the tv. Same thing happened with the mics at Fratton in the Championship, couldn't hear them in the ground, couldn't hear us on the box. TV companies don't like swearing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 (edited) The fact that St Mary's is among the better grounds these days tells a depressing tale. I'm not particularly interested in who's better than who but it's worth bearing in mind that Southampton at home is not an exciting game for most fans, so we don't see them at their best. They're more likely to turn it up against the big clubs, just like we do. Edited 4 April, 2016 by DuncanRG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 Leicester's atmosphere on Sunday was absolutely streets ahead of any other Prem ground I've been to since we've been back up, and I go to about 10 aways a season. Clappers certainly help make noise, but they were also all singing all the time. If we were in Leicester's position and achieved that result, we'd have a better atmosphere and no need for clappers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 (edited) Stoke's atmosphere is very overrated. Edited 4 April, 2016 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 April, 2016 Share Posted 4 April, 2016 Leicester's atmosphere on Sunday was absolutely streets ahead of any other Prem ground I've been to since we've been back up, and I go to about 10 aways a season. Clappers certainly help make noise, but they were also all singing all the time. You're also one of those who spends a fair amount of any away trip taking selfies and uploading them to social media so your opinion is irrelevant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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