sotonnick Posted 7 April, 2016 Posted 7 April, 2016 Preview now up on: http://theitchenperspective.blogspot.co.uk/
Shance Posted 7 April, 2016 Posted 7 April, 2016 I'm perplexed as to why so many want to just drop a player of the month nominee. Pelle has been in very good form and deserves his place!
Batman Posted 8 April, 2016 Posted 8 April, 2016 I'm perplexed as to why so many want to just drop a player of the month nominee. Pelle has been in very good form and deserves his place! Because long is better than him in the same position and we are better as a team in that respect?
whelk Posted 8 April, 2016 Posted 8 April, 2016 We always beat Newcastle at home....3 points. Yeah team talk just needs to be 'c'mon lads it's Newcastle'
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 8 April, 2016 Posted 8 April, 2016 I'm perplexed as to why so many want to just drop a player of the month nominee. Pelle has been in very good form and deserves his place! It`s called an agenda mate, he could score very game and some would STILL slate him.....odd bods
The9 Posted 8 April, 2016 Posted 8 April, 2016 Because long is better than him in the same position and we are better as a team in that respect? "Better than a player of the month nominee". So Long's been nominated as well then?
fish fingers Posted 8 April, 2016 Posted 8 April, 2016 It`s called an agenda mate, he could score very game and some would STILL slate him.....odd bods The anti Pelle comments on here are borderline mental.
GarrettIvo Posted 8 April, 2016 Posted 8 April, 2016 The anti Pelle comments on here are borderline mental. Very much so. But what are ya gonna do. As for the game itself, all jokes aside we should be pummeling them. Not sure I buy into the "desperate" idea. They've been **** all season and there's no reason to think they'll be any better now with their fate all but sealed. Don't care if it's 2,3,or 4-nil. Or even 2-1, but no reason to accept anything less than 3 points.
Jimmy_D Posted 8 April, 2016 Posted 8 April, 2016 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35977759 Lawro predicting 2-0 to us, which is worrying because it's the same as mine. More importantly though, where did they dig that version of the Saints badge up from!?
Sour Mash Posted 8 April, 2016 Posted 8 April, 2016 Very much so. But what are ya gonna do. As for the game itself, all jokes aside we should be pummeling them. Not sure I buy into the "desperate" idea. They've been **** all season and there's no reason to think they'll be any better now with their fate all but sealed. Don't care if it's 2,3,or 4-nil. Or even 2-1, but no reason to accept anything less than 3 points. There are plenty of reasons why they might improve. They've recently brought an excellent, experienced manager on board. They do have some genuinely good players. They've obviously put in a lot more poor performances than good ones this year, but they've got the ability to certainly give us a game. I reckon they'll nick something.
Saint_Jonny Posted 8 April, 2016 Posted 8 April, 2016 Will 7th be enough for a euro spot this season if a team already in europe (because of league position) wins the FA Cup? Sixth is a euro spot on account of City winning the League Cup, right?
SaintStinger Posted 8 April, 2016 Posted 8 April, 2016 Will 7th be enough for a euro spot this season if a team already in europe (because of league position) wins the FA Cup? Sixth is a euro spot on account of City winning the League Cup, right? Not sure about 7th but 6th only is if Man City finish in the top 4, which is certainly not guaranteed at this point.
Saint_Jonny Posted 8 April, 2016 Posted 8 April, 2016 Not sure about 7th but 6th only is if Man City finish in the top 4, which is certainly not guaranteed at this point. Top 5 I guess? Fifth is the defacto Europa league spot me thinks.
Shroppie Posted 8 April, 2016 Posted 8 April, 2016 Not sure about 7th but 6th only is if Man City finish in the top 4, which is certainly not guaranteed at this point. I think Man City 5th would give 6th a place too. And if Man City are in top 5 and a top 6 team win the FA Cup it may be 7th gets a place, but I'm not certain. If Liverpool win the Europa Cup, it gets even more complicated but, as I understand it, will never go down to 8th Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk
Mr Biscuits Posted 8 April, 2016 Posted 8 April, 2016 Just found out I've managed to get tickets to take my 6 year old tomorrow. It's his first time at St Mary's. Think he'll explode tonight when I get home and tell him
diggers Posted 8 April, 2016 Posted 8 April, 2016 Just found out I've managed to get tickets to take my 6 year old tomorrow. It's his first time at St Mary's. Think he'll explode tonight when I get home and tell him With a user name like your's its like father like son then - Jokes....Bet you both have a great time. (A Blast even!)
lickierambert Posted 8 April, 2016 Posted 8 April, 2016 I've seen Newcastle live a few times this season and it's hard to overstate how bad their defence is. They've got a third choice keeper, a non left back at left back and the centre backs are really poor. Janmaat, whilst talented, looks like he doesn't want to be there They'll win 1-0 then
Toadhall Saint Posted 8 April, 2016 Posted 8 April, 2016 Just found out I've managed to get tickets to take my 6 year old tomorrow. It's his first time at St Mary's. Think he'll explode tonight when I get home and tell him Have a great time - hope the result is a good one!
Pamplemousse Posted 8 April, 2016 Posted 8 April, 2016 The Newcastle forums make for depressing reading. The general consensus is that they will get hammered 8-0
DT Posted 8 April, 2016 Posted 8 April, 2016 This is the sort of game we're expected to win. So we won't.
Saint_John Posted 8 April, 2016 Posted 8 April, 2016 One thing nobody has mentioned is that Shelvey is on 9 bookings and this weekend is the last match for the 10 bookings/2 match ban. If he gets booked he will miss 2 home games one against his former club Swansea, which I believe he really wants to play in. I hope Saints have done their homework and players like Sadio/Shane etc run at him and commit him to tackle knowing that one bad tackle and he will get a ban.
SW5 SAINT Posted 8 April, 2016 Posted 8 April, 2016 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35977759 Lawro predicting 2-0 to us, which is worrying because it's the same as mine. More importantly though, where did they dig that version of the Saints badge up from!? I like Lawro's league table. He has Southampton up one place at 6, whilst Leicester are down in 14th!!
doddisalegend Posted 8 April, 2016 Posted 8 April, 2016 The Newcastle forums make for depressing reading. The general consensus is that they will get hammered 8-0 Well a least they have a reason to get depressed sometimes I come on here and think saints must be cut a drift in the relegation zone....
Mr Biscuits Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 With a user name like your's its like father like son then - Jokes....Bet you both have a great time. (A Blast even!) Yes..... Not that it matters much to anyone on here but I've been thinking about changing my username - it's a hangover from my younger gaming days. Now I'm over 40 with responsibilities it's not quite the thing
SO16_Saint Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 Had a dream we scored 6. That'd be nice. And it would seriously annoy the bro-in-law who is a Newcastle fan...and its his 30th today
david in sweden Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 all this talk of "must win " is obvious, but we need to win this sort of fixture as those improved performances against Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and Man.Utd seems to fade into insignificance - when we still drop home points against the likes of Stoke and Aston Villa, and turn in shocking performances like Bournemouth and Norwich away. Consistancy is lacking at key times and if we had another 10 points we'd be looking a lot healthier in the Prem. right now.
david in sweden Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 Yes..... Not that it matters much to anyone on here but I've been thinking about changing my username - it's a hangover from my younger gaming days. Now I'm over 40 with responsibilities it's not quite the thing .Mmm.....you mean something along the lines of a cig. lighter, or a box of matches?..
igsey Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 I like Lawro's league table. He has Southampton up one place at 6, whilst Leicester are down in 14th!! And he's predicted them to drop two points at Sunderland!
Donatello Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 (edited) No need for a back five vs Newcastle (imo). -------------Forster------------ Cedric--Fonte--VVD--Bertrand -----Vic----Clasie----Romeu---- --------------Mane------------- -------Austin--------Long------- Bench - Stek, Martina, Yoshida, JWP, Tadic, JRod, Pelle. Clasie to drop deep to collect possession from CBs/Forster/etc. Flexible enough to adapt to 4-2-3-1 if FBs are too exposed. Edit: Forgot that Davis did his ankle in (or whatever it was). Edited 9 April, 2016 by Donatello
beatlesaint Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 No need for a back five vs Newcastle (imo). -------------Forster------------ Cedric--Fonte--VVD--Bertrand -----Vic----Clasie----Romeu---- --------------Davis------------- -------Mane--------Long------- Clasie to drop deep to collect possession from CBs/Forster/etc. If Mane can't compete aerially (let's face it, they'll be crosses aplenty), Austin on at HT with Mane dropping back into AM, either hooking Davis, or dropping him into the midfield 3 in place of any (probably Clasie). Flexible enough to adapt to 4-2-3-1 if FBs are too exposed (Davis shifting up and to the left, with Mane dropping back). Davis is injured
Matthew Le God Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 No need for a back five vs Newcastle (imo). -------------Forster------------ Cedric--Fonte--VVD--Bertrand -----Vic----Clasie----Romeu---- --------------Mane------------- -------Austin--------Long------- Bench - Stek, Martina, Yoshida, JWP, Tadic, JRod, Pelle. Clasie to drop deep to collect possession from CBs/Forster/etc. Flexible enough to adapt to 4-2-3-1 if FBs are too exposed. Edit: Forgot that Davis did his ankle in (or whatever it was). So instead you've gone for 4 defenders and 3 defensive midfielders?
Donatello Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 So instead you've gone for 4 defenders and 3 defensive midfielders? Nothing gets past you (save for humour/Twitter jokes). Clasie and Romeu are as defensive/deep as they're told to be. Both are comfortable further up the field, particularly Romeu.
Saint Charlie Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 Nothing gets past you (save for humour/Twitter jokes). Clasie and Romeu are as defensive/deep as they're told to be. Both are comfortable further up the field, particularly Romeu. I don't agree. They are all deep lying midfielders and lack the mobility needed to play further forward. If a midfielder comes in for Davis it will be JWP.
Matthew Le God Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 Nothing gets past you (save for humour/Twitter jokes). Clasie and Romeu are as defensive/deep as they're told to be. Both are comfortable further up the field, particularly Romeu. Ward-Prowse is the closest like for like replacement for Davis we have to play in the a 4-2-3-1, not Romeu.
Donatello Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 I don't agree. They are all deep lying midfielders and lack the mobility needed to play further forward. If a midfielder comes in for Davis it will be JWP. That's fair enough, of course...but to suggest JWP's mobility is a significant improvement on that of Clasie or Romeu doesn't wash with me (he's frequently cited on here for being painfully slow), if that's what you're implying. At any rate, at no point did I suggest any of them are to replace Davis in AM...hence Sadio Mane. Oh, and I personally do consider Romeu to be a box-to-box (in terms of his skillset). P.S Yes, it will be JWP for Davis in all likelihood, but I was stating my preference, not Koeman's
Donatello Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 (edited) Ward-Prowse is the closest like for like replacement for Davis we have to play in the a 4-2-3-1, not Romeu. Agreed....but I wasn't advocating 4-2-3-1 (because I think it's fairly evident that Long benefits from playing in a front two), nor claiming the contrary. Edited 9 April, 2016 by Donatello
Shroppie Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 That's fair enough, of course...but to suggest JWP's mobility is a significant improvement on that of Clasie or Romeu doesn't wash with me (he's frequently cited on here for being painfully slow), if that's what you're implying. At any rate, at no point did I suggest any of them are to replace Davis in AM...hence Sadio Mane. Oh, and I personally do consider Romeu to be a box-to-box (in terms of his skillset). P.S Yes, it will be JWP for Davis in all likelihood, but I was stating my preference, not Koeman's JWP will link play but not as creative as Tadić in the hole. But if Toon pack the defence set pieces will be important. I'd start with JWP, Long, Mané, Pellè and bring Tadić and Austin on if it's not working. Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk
Saint-Armstrong Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 (edited) SAINTS: Forster; Martina, Fonte, Van Dijk, Bertrand; Clasie, Wanyama; Long, Mané, Tadić; Pellè. Bench: Stekelenburg, Cédric, Yoshida, Romeu, Ward-Prowse, Rodriguez, Austin. Edited 9 April, 2016 by Saint-Armstrong
Dig Dig Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 That Newcastle side look defensively awful but lots going forward.
johnnyboy Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 Check out the tweet replies from the Geordies regarding that line up !
vince Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 I know there are many ways to see/listen to the game this afternoon, but if it helps anyone, it's the main 3pm commentary on 5 live.
nta786 Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 4-2-2-2 or 4-2-3-1? I'm guessing 4231, with Tadic on the left, Mane in the middle, Long on the right, Pelle up top and Wanyama + Clasie in holding positions. We beat these lot 4-0 at home last season with Tadic and Pelle playing really well that game- maybe a repeat, who knows. I'd have like to seen Austin play, but come on Pelle!
DT Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 Pelle plays again, despite being abysmal Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Batman Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 Pelle plays again, despite being abysmal Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk he should shine against this defence. Thing is, we are better with Long in his position
striker Posted 9 April, 2016 Posted 9 April, 2016 Well its good to get Long back, but I'm bummed about Pelle. Would much rather Long and Austin up front. Oh well, lets just roll over them.
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