Nordic Saint Posted 23 March, 2016 Share Posted 23 March, 2016 One of the best things about the Liverpool game was seeing the fans in the home end singing and chanting for a change. I think our players appreciated it and it really seemed to motivate them to go on and win the game. Let's hope it continues. St Mary's has badly lacked the support of a home kop.The fans in the corners of the away end really don't have much of an impact, as they are in very poor locations for influencing play or key refereeing decisions, or even making themselves heard above the away fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunit Posted 23 March, 2016 Share Posted 23 March, 2016 The 'OWTS' after Mane scored the winner was the loudest i've ever heard it at St Marys. If only we could get the whole stadium going like that in every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 23 March, 2016 Author Share Posted 23 March, 2016 The whole stadium as well as the players seemed to perk up when the Chapel end started chanting, 'Come on you reds'. The atmosphere after that was almost as good as it used to be in the best days at the Dell. Hell, forget almost, it was as good. I'm really looking forward to seeing it continue for the Newcastle game. I've missed the atmosphere you get with a home kop and at times the lack of one has even made me wonder what's the difference to watching it on TV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 March, 2016 Share Posted 23 March, 2016 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spion_Kop_(stadiums) It's getting a reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 23 March, 2016 Share Posted 23 March, 2016 One of the best things about the Liverpool game was seeing the fans in the home end singing and chanting for a change. I think our players appreciated it and it really seemed to motivate them to go on and win the game. Let's hope it continues. St Mary's has badly lacked the support of a home kop.The fans in the corners of the away end really don't have much of an impact, as they are in very poor locations for influencing play or key refereeing decisions, or even making themselves heard above the away fans. Really? I thought it was one of the quietest set of home fans we've had in the entire time at St Mary's until it went to 2-2. Yeah it picked up a bit when we got level and that helped at that point, but it was awful for most of the 80-ish minutes on-pitch before it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 23 March, 2016 Share Posted 23 March, 2016 The 'OWTS' after Mane scored the winner was the loudest i've ever heard it at St Marys. If only we could get the whole stadium going like that in every game. Not a patch on numerous other occasions in the Northam. Must have just been the quiet bits being louder than usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Biscuits Posted 23 March, 2016 Share Posted 23 March, 2016 Wonderful. I'm taking my son to his first game soon. We've got tickets for the game against Newcastle and we're in the Chapel end....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 23 March, 2016 Share Posted 23 March, 2016 Really? I thought it was one of the quietest set of home fans we've had in the entire time at St Mary's until it went to 2-2. Yeah it picked up a bit when we got level and that helped at that point, but it was awful for most of the 80-ish minutes on-pitch before it. Yeah i thought it was very quiet. Ideally it would be nice if the crowd raised the team rather than having to wait for the team to score before the noise levels come about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 23 March, 2016 Share Posted 23 March, 2016 I was at the Sunderland game and couldn't believe how bad the support was. I've often thought that people moaning about the crowd/atmosphere was a bit OTT and it's unrealistic to expect singing and chanting all game, but there was virtually no singing (or anything resembling support) until Van Dijk equalised. When Fonte was sent off, I would have thought it would have spurred the crowd into life - it certainly fired me up - but barely anything. I wonder if there's a growing sense of entitlement, a bit like going to the theatre or something - expect to be entertained, and if you are, you'll give a response. Rather than seeing it as any sort of responsibility to help the team achieve their goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 23 March, 2016 Share Posted 23 March, 2016 The 'OWTS' after Mane scored the winner was the loudest i've ever heard it at St Marys. If only we could get the whole stadium going like that in every game. i watched it again on Match of the Day2 on record last night and it is really noticable, the 3rd goal goes in and within a minute or two the camera is shaking with the noise levels, sounded fantastic and no doubt made the hairs on the back of Lovren's neck stand up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_TOAST Posted 23 March, 2016 Share Posted 23 March, 2016 It's funny because I was speaking to a somebody at work who was in the away end on Sunday and he said he didn't hear us sing once, I don't think he was lieing or anything either. Just the way the sound goes round the stadium as has been discussed before, but also when it gets going in Northam it's still only about half the stand join in (know lots around me don't join in). But that OWTS did seem to be quite loud and could see other parts of the ground seeming to join in which was nice change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 23 March, 2016 Share Posted 23 March, 2016 I do believe the atmosphere towards the end of the season gets better for some reason. Its a shame we are **** at cup games as a quarter final at St Mary's plus a good European run would have us buzzing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 23 March, 2016 Share Posted 23 March, 2016 Yeah i thought it was very quiet. Ideally it would be nice if the crowd raised the team rather than having to wait for the team to score before the noise levels come about. Never been any different, its in our DNA, Lawrie McMenemy has always said it about Saints fans all the way back when he was the boss, the team need to get the fans going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyNumber7 Posted 23 March, 2016 Share Posted 23 March, 2016 The acoustics must be really bad at SMS, I'm in Kingsland North and thought the atmosphere was dreadful, also didn't hear a peep from the Chapel. The lack of atmosphere at games is really denting my enjoyment of watching Saints lately. The last couple of minutes were good though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonicBoom Posted 23 March, 2016 Share Posted 23 March, 2016 Lots of people like "atmosphere" but don't actually want to join in creating it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zed Posted 23 March, 2016 Share Posted 23 March, 2016 Acoustics are awful at the stadium. Although I don't join in any anti-pompey songs because I can't be ****ed. It's a shame that the Northam seem to rate them highly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dick Last Posted 23 March, 2016 Share Posted 23 March, 2016 We in the Chapel normally hear anti p****y songs from the Northam pretty much from kick off. It was very pleasing not to hear them until the final few minutes. Keep it up lads. Get behind the Saints and forget that insignificant little team from down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 23 March, 2016 Share Posted 23 March, 2016 TBH apart from OWTS a few player chants and anti Skate songs we don't have a lot most of the other clubs sing a version of our song why don't we sing our own version of some of their songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 24 March, 2016 Share Posted 24 March, 2016 TBH apart from OWTS a few player chants and anti Skate songs we don't have a lot most of the other clubs sing a version of our song why don't we sing our own version of some of their songs. We should definitely sing something like "Glory glory, we're Southampton" at White Hart Lane if they start singing OWTS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonb Posted 24 March, 2016 Share Posted 24 March, 2016 We should definitely sing something like "Glory glory, we're Southampton" at White Hart Lane if they start singing OWTS. That'll show them ;-) Seriously tho, I think the away support at WHL should keep up OWTSGMI for the entire match. Sure, Spurs will belt it out once or twice to prove a point but if the away end kept it going throughout, that would be impressive. I used to love it at the Dell when 'red army' would last over half an hour, different sections of the crowd ramping it up if it started to wain. Some of that at WHL would be epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 24 March, 2016 Author Share Posted 24 March, 2016 We in the Chapel normally hear anti p****y songs from the Northam pretty much from kick off. It was very pleasing not to hear them until the final few minutes. Keep it up lads. Get behind the Saints and forget that insignificant little team from down the road. I was thinking the same. What a miracle it would if the Northam corner could get through an entire match without singing about Pompey, but then, sadly, they did. At least it wasn't as bad as most games, when they sing about Pompey for the entire game. Maybe it was just because they weren't singing at all. Pompey must love all the free publicity our fans give them at televised Premier League games and away fans must leave St Mary's thinking, I never realized just how massive Pompey are down here. With regard to when the noise started at the Liverpool game, what impressed me that it wasn't when we equalised but when we were losing 2-1, and it really did seem to motivate our players. It's true, however, that until then it had been very quiet. I agree with what's been said about the acoustics at St Mary's. I guess soundproofing materials were used in the construction in order to reduce 'noise pollution' to the surrounding area. The other problem is that the stadium has low, gently sloping sides so a lot of the noise is not channeled onto the pitch. A second tier on the Kingsland, like the one they've added at Cardiff's stadium, even if it were completely empty (which it wouldn't be) would improve the atmosphere a lot. I think what you hear does depend on where you sit. I am towards the southern end of the Kingsland and from there you don't really notice the home fans singing in the Kingsland North/Northam corner much. I think many away fans leave St Mary's without even noticing there were even any home fans singing in the Northam. They only really notice the Chapel End and wonder why the home end is so quiet and the little group of fans who sing in the Itchen because they are facing them. The chant of 'Come on you reds' which went up from the Chapel was not very loud, but it was hopefully the beginning of us having a proper home end at last. It would only take a group of 20 singers to migrate from the Kingsland/Northam corner, to behind the goal in the Chapel for the singing to spread around them, and the atmosphere in the entire stadium would get a massive boost. John Boy, it's nothing to do with our DNA. You obviously weren't around in the late 70s when we were among the noisiest fans in the country and really used to lift the team when they were losing. That's what winning a trophy does for you. It gives fans hope and belief. But, decades of failing to win anything have made fans cynical as they ultimately expect to be disappointed. Anyway, let's hope what happened towards the end of the Liverpool game was just the beginning of us having a proper home end at last, instead of 2 groups hidden in the corners of the away end, singing about Pompey all the time, except for big cup games when they disappear altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 24 March, 2016 Share Posted 24 March, 2016 We in the Chapel normally hear anti p****y songs from the Northam pretty much from kick off. It was very pleasing not to hear them until the final few minutes. Keep it up lads. Get behind the Saints and forget that insignificant little team from down the road. Can't say I'd noticed it was any different to normal, other than there just being fewer songs than usual full stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 24 March, 2016 Share Posted 24 March, 2016 TBH apart from OWTS a few player chants and anti Skate songs we don't have a lot most of the other clubs sing a version of our song why don't we sing our own version of some of their songs. As I did an audio capture of Saints songs to upload into EA's FIFA game on PS3 about 5 years ago, I can confirm that we had, at the time, around 80 unique songs (not necessarily unique to us, of course), of which about 1/4 mentioned Portsmouth. It's surprising how many there are when you actually catalogue them. I wouldn't expect it to have changed much, most of the player-specific songs are just replaced by other player-specific songs the longer the season goes on. The thread's probably still in the archive in the Computer Games forum if anyone wants to dig it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 24 March, 2016 Author Share Posted 24 March, 2016 We should definitely sing something like "Glory glory, we're Southampton" at White Hart Lane if they start singing OWTS. It would be great to celebrate a victory at White Hart Lane with a chorus of 'Glory, Glory Hallelujah and the Saints go marching on'. Spurs fans would definitely not like that, even though they copied it from Hibs fans. Glory Glory (football chant) History Hibernian were the first known team to appropriate the tune as a football chant, with the release of a record by Hector Nicol in the 1950s ("Glory Glory to the Hibees"). The same underlying tune was used in "Glory Glory Tottenham Hotspur", which can be traced back to 1960. Tottenham's version was recorded as the B-side for the 1981 FA Cup single, "Ossie's Dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 24 March, 2016 Share Posted 24 March, 2016 (edited) As I did an audio capture of Saints songs to upload into EA's FIFA game on PS3 about 5 years ago, I can confirm that we had, at the time, around 80 unique songs (not necessarily unique to us, of course), of which about 1/4 mentioned Portsmouth. It's surprising how many there are when you actually catalogue them. I wouldn't expect it to have changed much, most of the player-specific songs are just replaced by other player-specific songs the longer the season goes on. The thread's probably still in the archive in the Computer Games forum if anyone wants to dig it out. Ahem: http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/archive/index.php/t-24213.html Not 80 because of the duplicate files I'd recorded. So, in 2010 we were singing the following 51 songs (including the fast, slow then fast, and maniacal seal clapping board banging versions of OWTSGMI which afaic are 3 different songs). 1 Southampton Til I Die 2 If You Really F'cking Hate Them Clap Your Hands 3 Rickie Lambert Southampton's Goal Machine 4 When I Was Just A Little Boy, I asked my mother... (Wash Your Mouth) 5 Nigel Adkins' Red and White_Army 6 By Far The Greatest Team 7 (Clapclapclapclapclapclapclapclapclap) The Saints 8 Coooooome Onnnnnnn Youuuuuuuu Reds 9 Jose Fonte Baby 10 Adam Lallana (Clapclapclapclapclap) 11 Adam Lallana Makes_Messi look sh*te 12 We Love Southampton We Do 13 Nah-nah-nah-nah F*ck Off 14 Pompeys Going Down with no money in the bank 15 Oh When The Saints (slow version into fast) 16 Oh When The Saints (fast version) 17 Oh When The Saints(clappy version) 18 Red and White Barmy Army 19 Sit Down Shut Up 20 Southampton Boys Are In Town... we all follow Southampton 21 Who Are Ya ? 22 Who The F'cking Hell Are You ? 23 Your Support Is F_n Sh_t 24 What the Fcking Hell Was That? 25 We're The Northam 26 Wash Your Mouth Out (we hate Pompey) 27 Stand Up If You Love The Saints 28 Southerners 29 Sh_t On 30 Red Army 31 Pompey Family 32 Ole_Ole_Guly 33 Nigel Give_Us_A_Wave 34 Nah-Nah-nah-nah... Fck Off (Vindaloo) 35 Red-and-White_Army 36 Lee_Lee_Lee_Barnard 37 Lee Barnard - he'll_See_You_Outside 38 Lee_Barnard_Barnard_Wanted by Scotland Yard 39 Le_Tiss_Le_Tiss 40 Guly_Guly_Guly 41 Going_Down_They_re_Going Down 42 Fratton_Park_is_Falling_D.mp3 43 Doodoodoodoo_Jason_Puncheon 44 DISCO 45 COYR_COYR COYR Come_On 46 Aaah_You_Fat_B_stard 47 If You all hate Pompey clap your hands" 48 Pompey Fan Upon A String" 49 Deano Deano" 50 Super Kelvin Davis 51 Woolston Ferry They need splitting into "still current", "person specific" and "not sung any more", as well as adding all the new stuff based on current players and with the obvious addition of WTFILN? which was still verboten in 2010. You could add Lee Barnard "Better Than Frank Lampard to it" too, though it had been replaced by the Scotland Yard version by then. Just noticed a duplicate of the vindaloo song too. Edited 24 March, 2016 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 24 March, 2016 Share Posted 24 March, 2016 Current 1 Southampton Til I Die 2 If You Really F'cking Hate Them Clap Your Hands 4 When I Was Just A Little Boy, I asked my mother... (Wash Your Mouth) 6 By Far The Greatest Team 7 (Clapclapclapclapclapclapclapclapclap) The Saints 8 Coooooome Onnnnnnn Youuuuuuuu Reds 9 Jose Fonte Baby 12 We Love Southampton We Do 15 Oh When The Saints (slow version into fast) 16 Oh When The Saints (fast version) 17 Oh When The Saints(clappy version) 18 Red and White Barmy Army 19 Sit Down Shut Up 20 Southampton Boys Are In Town... we all follow Southampton 21 Who Are Ya ? 22 Who The F'cking Hell Are You ? 23 Your Support Is F_n Sh_t 24 What the Fcking Hell Was That? 25 We're The Northam 26 Wash Your Mouth Out (we hate Pompey) 27 Stand Up If You Love The Saints 28 Southerners 29 Sh_t On 30 Red Army 34 Nah-Nah-nah-nah... Fck Off (Vindaloo) 35 Red-and-White_Army 39 Le_Tiss_Le_Tiss 42 Fratton_Park_is_Falling_D.mp3 44 DISCO 45 COYR_COYR COYR Come_On 46 Aaah_You_Fat_B_stard 47 If You all hate Pompey clap your hands" Not being sung 14 Pompeys Going Down with no money in the bank 31 Pompey Family 41 Going_Down_They_re_Going Down 48 Pompey Fan Upon A String" 50 Super Kelvin Davis 51 Woolston Ferry Person specific outdated 3 Rickie Lambert Southampton's Goal Machine 5 Nigel Adkins' Red and White_Army 10 Adam Lallana (Clapclapclapclapclap) 11 Adam Lallana Makes_Messi look sh*te 32 Ole_Ole_Guly 33 Nigel Give_Us_A_Wave 36 Lee_Lee_Lee_Barnard 37 Lee Barnard - he'll_See_You_Outside 38 Lee_Barnard_Barnard_Wanted by Scotland Yard 40 Guly_Guly_Guly 43 Doodoodoodoo_Jason_Puncheon 49 Deano Deano" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 24 March, 2016 Share Posted 24 March, 2016 I think there are probably 10 new Sloop John B songs alone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Fred Posted 25 March, 2016 Share Posted 25 March, 2016 http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/50-best-football-chants-20-11-love-saints-and-brummies#:0so-vgzbtZICJA Some ideas here..and apparently it's our song but Spurs do it better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 27 March, 2016 Share Posted 27 March, 2016 http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/50-best-football-chants-20-11-love-saints-and-brummies#:0so-vgzbtZICJA Some ideas here..and apparently it's our song but Spurs do it better! Well, it's above the Pompey Chimes (how that makes the top 15 God knows, and what's that Sunderland song that I've literally never heard them sing or anyone mention that they sing doing in there?), but what a load of cobblers about OWTSGMI - Spurs have never sung it "slow and to a clappy climax", they've only ever sung it "slow, remaining slow" - which also happens to be the best way to sing it - but still isn't as good as when we actually keep it slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 28 March, 2016 Share Posted 28 March, 2016 I still can't work out why the "hardcore" in the Northam don't go and create a "kop" in the Chapel, would massively benefit the team in the second half of games and would stop all the winging when a relatively big away support comes for the FA Cup. I guess most of them are more interested in giving it large to the away fans than supporting the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 28 March, 2016 Share Posted 28 March, 2016 I still can't work out why the "hardcore" in the Northam don't go and create a "kop" in the Chapel, would massively benefit the team in the second half of games and would stop all the winging when a relatively big away support comes for the FA Cup. I guess most of them are more interested in giving it large to the away fans than supporting the team. Probably because the atmosphere is crap everywhere in the ground other than the bits either side of the away fans and people aren't likely to move to an area devoid of atmosphere unless they do it en masse, which isn't possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 28 March, 2016 Share Posted 28 March, 2016 Probably because the atmosphere is crap everywhere in the ground other than the bits either side of the away fans and people aren't likely to move to an area devoid of atmosphere unless they do it en masse, which isn't possible. This is my point, if they did it en masse, it would massively improve the atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 28 March, 2016 Share Posted 28 March, 2016 This is my point, if they did it en masse, it would massively improve the atmosphere. And my points are: 1) No-one wants to and 2) it's not even possible (also because 3) you're probably right about giving it large to the away fans - because that's how most of the atmosphere is created). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 29 March, 2016 Share Posted 29 March, 2016 Well, it's above the Pompey Chimes (how that makes the top 15 God knows, and what's that Sunderland song that I've literally never heard them sing or anyone mention that they sing doing in there?), but what a load of cobblers about OWTSGMI - Spurs have never sung it "slow and to a clappy climax", - which also happens to be the best way to sing it - but still isn't as good as when we actually keep it slow. Sunderland - if I was asked in a quiz which fans sung that song I'd answer Sunderland straight away, they've been singing that for ages. Spurs OWTSGMI - "they've only ever sung it "slow, remaining slow" - Really? Thought the speeded up ending was their standard version, certainly is . I'd agree without you it's so much better when it never speeds up though, but would grudgingly admit they do it far better. Re "atmosphere" that's not just singing though. Singing is a big part of it but it's also that roar of encouragement when your team crosses the half way line and/or makes a last ditch tackle. It's the whole stadium out of their seats angrily shouting their disapproval when a decision goes against us. It's making opposition players realise they are not welcome here (to put it politely) every time they come anywhere near any section of the crowd to take a corner or throw-in. That all goes towards giving the ground that intimidating fortress reputation, sadly lacking nowadays. As for "giving it large to the away fans" how does that add to "atmosphere"? Out singing them en-masse to shut them up definitely, but that would be better done from the opposite end facing them (so they actually hear it) than from stood alongside them facing the same way. But individuals just "giving it large" (from across a segregated area and protected by stewards and/or police)does nothing to encourage the team, that's just being a knob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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