Saint Charlie Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 Romeu and Clasie have been woeful defensively. Not enough mobility in that pairing against these sort of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 Liverpool have presented us with plenty of decent set piece opportunities so far. But, annoyingly, our execution of them has been abysmal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 Listening on Radio Solent, its been clear from the first minute that there's a lesson from this - that this squad isn't as good as we thought it was. Maybe we should be grateful if we manage a top 10 finish and that may be the best we can expect for the next season or so. Really big signings needed to get into the top 4, as made by the wealthy clubs, are beyond us but it does make you respect even more what has happened at Leicester. We are a mid table side, simple as that. Talk of top 4 and Europe is pie in the sky. What Leicester have done this season is great, but it's a one off in 30 years. Sent from my Hudl 2 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 Boos at h/t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 Boos at h/t Yes, directed at the ref - "you're not fit to referee" being shouted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 Sturridge barely tripped up= liverpool free kick. Anything on Shane Long= nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 Yes, directed at the ref - "you're not fit to referee" being shouted. Good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 0 shots on target to their 6, tells its own story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkSaint Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 Football results hang on the finest of threads. If you have a stone-cold penalty not given, it changes the entire trajectory of the game. So frustrating. Having said that Liverpool have shown incredible pace and skill. overall they certainly deserve a lead. 1-2 wd be a fair reflection of the half... We need Mane on for Tadic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 If only we had an in-form Mané, who knows where we would be in the table. We have zero creative attacking midfielders like Mahrez or Coutinho and it's the one area we really must strengthen in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 It wasn't a stone cold penalty. Long ran across Lovren and was looking for it. Was 50/50 for me. We have been woeful in central midfield and not able to deal with their movement and tempo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarhead5 Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 They should've been down to 10 men. Should've been a PK and a red card. However, everyone is playing so poor and we would likely be down at half anyway. Poor touch, poor passes, poor movement. But I guess it's hard to keep your head in the game when the ref won't allow fair play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfp1 Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 Wanyama, and JWP should have started in place of Tadic and Clasie IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 Anyone who thinks the ref got the penalty decision needs their eyes testing IMO. Stone wall. If that was at the other end he'd have been gagging to give it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaymanSaint Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 The only thing you can be sure of with that penalty was it would have been given the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 Just watched a replay of the penalty decision. I'm not as convinced now as I was at the time that its a stonewall penalty. Long seems to turn right into Lovren at the last moment and the two players then collide. As much asI hate to say it, I don't see how Lovren was supposed to avoid the collision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 Anyone who thinks the ref got the penalty decision needs their eyes testing IMO. Stone wall. If that was at the other end he'd have been gagging to give it. It wasnt a stonewall pen. Long was looking for it and cut across Lovren. Where is the defender meant to go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 We need some rare Koeman half time changes I think. JWP and Cedric on please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 Hmm. Penalty for me. Ref would have given that 100/100 if outside the area. I reckon he was too far away and the big club gets the benefit as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 Let's be honest, seeing the smile wiped off Lallana's face after their third got disallowed was the highlight of the half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 Let's be honest, seeing the smile wiped off Lallana's face after their third got disallowed was the highlight of the half. I'm sure he is bothered at HT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattiiiboiii7 Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 It wasn't a stone cold penalty. Long ran across Lovren and was looking for it. Was 50/50 for me. We have been woeful in central midfield and not able to deal with their movement and tempo. This. If Fonte did that and Lallana jumped on the floor we would be in uproar. "Stone wall pen" ... let's focus on getting 1 shot on f***ing target in 45 minutes before we start blaming the ref Saints . Mane on for Tadic. Press high and please some ENERGY!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 Football results hang on the finest of threads. If you have a stone-cold penalty not given, it changes the entire trajectory of the game. So frustrating. Having said that Liverpool have shown incredible pace and skill. overall they certainly deserve a lead. 1-2 wd be a fair reflection of the half... We need Mane on for Tadic. They've shredded us through midfield and been allowed time in dangerous positions to pick their spot in the back of the net - how many times have we seen Coutinho and Sturridge score goals like todays. 2-1 would flatter us greatly. Pelle has been abject; Tadic not much better; Clasie all at sea. Martina has shown up offensively but has left acres of space to exploit. We've been thoroughly tonked so far - he has to bring Mane and Wanyama on at H/T but I bet he doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkSaint Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 I think the automatic red-card for last-defender fouls worked against us there. It's a stupid rule, to me. I think refs should have the ability to award a penalty for a clumsy foul and save the red card for deliberate take-downs. It's a tough call (and too big a punishment) to send off someone early in the game AND give the penalty. Dumb rule. And it hurt us today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 It wasn't a stone cold penalty. Long ran across Lovren and was looking for it. Was 50/50 for me. We have been woeful in central midfield and not able to deal with their movement and tempo. Running across Lovren whilst trying to get towards the goal FFS. Should he have turned left towards the corner flag instead???? Arm across the back, easy penalty. But if we insist on letting Coutino space and time to cut in and shoot yet again then we are doomed anyway. WTF is it with Sturidge .. pretty sure Saints Fans have seen him play and score more than 99% of Liverpool fans!! Tadic has been pedesstrian - get Mane on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarhead5 Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 Also, Koeman did adjust after the 2nd goal. Long moved to the left and davis in the hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 Anyone who thinks the ref got the penalty decision needs their eyes testing IMO. Stone wall. If that was at the other end he'd have been gagging to give it. Haven't seen it myself, but listening on 5 Live they seem fairly confident that it wasn't a penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 Just watched a replay of the penalty decision. I'm not as convinced now as I was at the time that its a stonewall penalty. Long seems to turn right into Lovren at the last moment and the two players then collide. As much asI hate to say it, I don't see how Lovren was supposed to avoid the collision. This. Once the emotion is taken out. The ref isn't the reason we are losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 Having been at the Dell when we were 0-3 down to Liverpool at one point and came back to 3-3 I am choosing to believe we can still get something from this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 I think the automatic red-card for last-defender fouls worked against us there. It's a stupid rule, to me. I think refs should have the ability to award a penalty for a clumsy foul and save the red card for deliberate take-downs. It's a tough call (and too big a punishment) to send off someone early in the game AND give the penalty. Dumb rule. And it hurt us today. Totally agree with that view. Definitely influences the ref, not wanting to Red Card somebody who may well be trying to get the ball, but commits a foul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo_ARG Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 For all you wanting Mane in, do you realize he hasen't scored in four months? He is not the player he was last year. There is no saviour and no scapegoat. The whole team was poor. The biggest problem is that Romeu and Clasie both get forward at the same time it leaves a huuuuge gap in the midfield to counter-attack. To make things worse the defence is sitting too deep, allowing all the time and space to shoot from the outside. Sturridge goal was infuriating. It was so obvious he was going far post, yet they bite on the fake shot and he scores easily. It was a penalty early on. The ref is giving us nothing. He is a joke. They are closing down, not letting any crosses in. Great coaching by Klopp. And Liverpool has outclassed us in every department. We got outplayed. Credit to them. And Bertrand shouldn't been taking the set pieces. I rather see Tadic, Davis and even Virgil before him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 It wasnt a stonewall pen. Long was looking for it and cut across Lovren. Where is the defender meant to go? Presume you missed the shove in the back? Doesn't matter than he cut across him, he was shoved down and that's a free kick anywhere else on the pitch and a penalty for every team in the top 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 Sturridge barely tripped up= liverpool free kick. Anything on Shane Long= nothing. Apart from the one that Lovren got booked for you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Benali Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 We have played like this too many times this season. Not good enough. The sad thing is Liverpool are not that good either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 Crap ref crap saints. Right that we are at least 2 down just should be 1 - 3 (assuming we score the penalty we were robbed of) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USA SaintsFan Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 Mane and Vic coming on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 Vic and Mane on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitenred Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 If benteke's was a penalty last week then so was that. Consistency is all we ask for Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 Having been at the Dell when we were 0-3 down to Liverpool at one point and came back to 3-3 I am choosing to believe we can still get something from this game. My last ever visit to the old place ... was a very emotional day for me indeed. Certainly didn't want my last visit to be a tonking by those scouse cooonts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 The angle the ref has means he can't see the little push by Lovren, and without that element it looks like Long goes down easily. Any other angle and he probably gives it, but he only has one. Go ahead and it's a different game, but you can't blame the ref for the two goals conceded, nor the two great three v two opportunities because we send too many players forward. Far, far too open in the middle. Not sure why we think we can go toe to toe with Liverpool. They are a decent outfit and our five at the back, strangle the opposition seemed a far better choice. That system turned our season, but we seem to have forgotten that. Hopefully we will get an early goal and the game will change... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobbysouth Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 Thank god you're here captain hindsight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 Penalty Saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmonton Saint Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 Then he gives that penalty for us lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pass the Dutchie Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 Penalty now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 Mané to take - saved FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 No no no ****ing no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmonton Saint Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 And missed. of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Saint Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 Oh **** off Mane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 20 March, 2016 Share Posted 20 March, 2016 Sums us up!!! fookin awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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