Koolman Posted 15 March, 2016 Share Posted 15 March, 2016 http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/35803664 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 15 March, 2016 Share Posted 15 March, 2016 As Ronald announced straight after the game. It would be seriously worrying if it isn't rescinded. Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 March, 2016 Share Posted 15 March, 2016 Mason is only a 4th official this weekend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 15 March, 2016 Share Posted 15 March, 2016 Mason really is a very poor referee! This is not a reaction to the Mane 'decision', which was shocking. He isn't a Prem ref. I can't understand what the referees assessor sees different to every man and his dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 15 March, 2016 Share Posted 15 March, 2016 Do we know when the appeal is likely to be heard? Assume before the weekend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 March, 2016 Share Posted 15 March, 2016 Do we know when the appeal is likely to be heard? Assume before the weekend? amazing that it takes a few days. so clearly not a red card that the FA should have been ready for the appeal and have an answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 15 March, 2016 Share Posted 15 March, 2016 Indeed. It wasn't even a yellow let alone a red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 15 March, 2016 Share Posted 15 March, 2016 Often its the next day that its communicated. Hope a redundant point when its surely overturned but as he has already been sent off he would probably get 4 games for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 15 March, 2016 Share Posted 15 March, 2016 The decision is today. Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 15 March, 2016 Share Posted 15 March, 2016 Often its the next day that its communicated. Hope a redundant point when its surely overturned but as he has already been sent off he would probably get 4 games for it! Indeed, the official FA site currently shows it as a 4 match ban as expected. http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/suspensions Costa incidentally got 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Biscuits Posted 15 March, 2016 Share Posted 15 March, 2016 Diego Costa needs therapy not a ban from football - there is something seriously wrong with his head. And if they don't rescind that red card, it'll just prove the big club bias Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 15 March, 2016 Share Posted 15 March, 2016 And if they don't rescind that red card, it'll just prove the big club bias I think we're well beyond needing to prove that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 15 March, 2016 Share Posted 15 March, 2016 No longer on the suspended list, our appeal must have been successful then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 15 March, 2016 Share Posted 15 March, 2016 No longer on the suspended list, our appeal must have been successful then. And Gareth Roberts (Portsmouth) appears on the Premier League list of suspensions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 15 March, 2016 Share Posted 15 March, 2016 And Gareth Roberts (Portsmouth) appears on the Premier League list of suspensions... Hadn't you heard? Its been decided as they're such as massive club, such a huge sleeping giant, that because they've stormed league 2 so triumphantly with such a huge passionate fan base that they've been promoted straight back to the premier league as it just wouldn't be fair on the clubs in L1 and the Championship having to be humiliated so roundly every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 15 March, 2016 Share Posted 15 March, 2016 if - as anticipated the red card is recinded, then you have to ask yourself....if everyone who watched the replay saw what really happened... .......then why isn't a 4th official..or a 5th if you like......watching the TV replay ....as millions of others were? I can hear the objections now, but the truth is that if the "incident " had been in the 19th minute.... and not the 90th, the game might have finished very differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 15 March, 2016 Share Posted 15 March, 2016 if - as anticipated the red card is recinded, then you have to ask yourself....if everyone who watched the replay saw what really happened... .......then why isn't a 4th official..or a 5th if you like......watching the TV replay ....as millions of others were? I can hear the objections now, but the truth is that if the "incident " had been in the 19th minute.... and not the 90th, the game might have finished very differently. Why not go further and open it up to a telephone vote? Twitter, even, except that they wouldn't make any money out of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 15 March, 2016 Share Posted 15 March, 2016 Appeal successful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 15 March, 2016 Share Posted 15 March, 2016 Fantastic. Sanity prevails. That should inspire Sadio for the Liverpool game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 March, 2016 Share Posted 15 March, 2016 would have been an utter farce had it stood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Biscuits Posted 15 March, 2016 Share Posted 15 March, 2016 Bloody ref should never be allowed to oversee a premier league game again. Not the first time he's screwed up a saints match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 15 March, 2016 Share Posted 15 March, 2016 Great news. Or is it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 15 March, 2016 Share Posted 15 March, 2016 Why not go further and open it up to a telephone vote? Twitter, even, except that they wouldn't make any money out of that. And the result of the Twitter vote will be Arsenal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 15 March, 2016 Share Posted 15 March, 2016 And the result of the Twitter vote will be Arsenal Twitter the year might be Lee Mason Reason has prevailed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 15 March, 2016 Share Posted 15 March, 2016 I note that the FA ruling (http://www.thefa.com/news/governance/2016/mar/sadio-mane-southampton-red-card-appeal-upheld) doesn't mention whether the red has been downgraded to a yellow or that the incident was deemed unworthy of any card. Is that because the FA's appeal rules don't include provision to downgrade? I know it effectively doesn't matter (as Mane is unlikely to accumulate enough yellows to get a ban between now and the end of the season) but just curious as to whether 'downgrade to yellow' its an option available to the FA. I don't think the incident was worthy of a yellow, let alone a red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 15 March, 2016 Share Posted 15 March, 2016 Bloody ref should never be allowed to oversee a premier league game again. Not the first time he's screwed up a saints match If you expect refs to get have decision correct you will have to wait a long time . Just like you they are human and wrong decisions will always be made just accept it it is part of the game He must be a good ref otherwise he would not be near the PL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 15 March, 2016 Share Posted 15 March, 2016 If you expect refs to get have decision correct you will have to wait a long time . Just like you they are human and wrong decisions will always be made just accept it it is part of the game He must be a good ref otherwise he would not be near the PL What does that actually mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasper57saint Posted 15 March, 2016 Share Posted 15 March, 2016 Mason is only a 4th official this weekend! Be that as it may even as a 4th Official he can still influence the outcome of a game.He should be dropped completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 15 March, 2016 Share Posted 15 March, 2016 I note that the FA ruling (http://www.thefa.com/news/governance/2016/mar/sadio-mane-southampton-red-card-appeal-upheld) doesn't mention whether the red has been downgraded to a yellow or that the incident was deemed unworthy of any card. I don't believe there is any provision for issuing a yellow instead. More to the point do I get my 5 points back in my Sun Dream Team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasper57saint Posted 15 March, 2016 Share Posted 15 March, 2016 If you expect refs to get have decision correct you will have to wait a long time . Just like you they are human and wrong decisions will always be made just accept it it is part of the game He must be a good ref otherwise he would not be near the PL Yes we all make mistakes but most of us will get the sack as a result.He's not a PL Ref. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Monkey Posted 15 March, 2016 Share Posted 15 March, 2016 Great news. Or is it Of course it is. We need a strong bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 15 March, 2016 Share Posted 15 March, 2016 Most ref's have one shocker now and then but he had 2 in one game (including the pen) , When players are retrospectively punished they have to face the media afterwards , If refs were all to be allowed to have a short interview after a game too , would it connect them to the fans more by explaining why they gave their decisions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 15 March, 2016 Share Posted 15 March, 2016 Yes we all make mistakes but most of us will get the sack as a result.He's not a PL Ref. And don't forget this one from Mason in the home game v Stoke this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 15 March, 2016 Share Posted 15 March, 2016 If you expect refs to get have decision correct you will have to wait a long time . Just like you they are human and wrong decisions will always be made just accept it it is part of the game He must be a good ref otherwise he would not be near the PL Well said. Like it or not these referees are the best that we have. Anyone who has not tried to referee a game at any level is unlikely to appreciate the total concentration that is required and sometimes the brain can get overloaded, especially if the players don't help and start acting up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 15 March, 2016 Share Posted 15 March, 2016 Not sure he deserves to be in the starting lineup vs Liverpool anyway judging by his performance against Sunderland. Never seen him look less interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musesaint Posted 15 March, 2016 Share Posted 15 March, 2016 Mason is only a 4th official this weekend! Shame he's not a 5th one sat 200 miles away from the nearest stadium ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxford_lou Posted 16 March, 2016 Share Posted 16 March, 2016 Yes we all make mistakes but most of us will get the sack as a result.He's not a PL Ref. That must make a lot of sacked people if that's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 16 March, 2016 Share Posted 16 March, 2016 On the Radio Solent commentary, long before the sending-off, I thought I heard someone say it was a shame we didn't have a real referee this week and instead we had Lee Mason. If I heard that correctly, it seems Mason's reputation precedes him. We must expect referees to make mistakes but some are worse than others. When a bad error is made, if the official was barred form officiating, even as fourth official, for a number of weeks the punishment and loss of income might encourage improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 16 March, 2016 Share Posted 16 March, 2016 On the Radio Solent commentary, long before the sending-off, I thought I heard someone say it was a shame we didn't have a real referee this week and instead we had Lee Mason. If I heard that correctly, it seems Mason's reputation precedes him. We must expect referees to make mistakes but some are worse than others. When a bad error is made, if the official was barred form officiating, even as fourth official, for a number of weeks the punishment and loss of income might encourage improvement. The loss of income can be very significant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 16 March, 2016 Share Posted 16 March, 2016 Good news, we always knew it would be overturned, Lee Mason needs to pop on down to Specsavers over the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 17 March, 2016 Share Posted 17 March, 2016 Have we been fined for failing to control our players? That seems to be the usual compromise from the FA when they admit a refereeing error - "oh yeah that decision was wrong but we are going to fine you for trying to tell the ref how wrong he was" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 17 March, 2016 Share Posted 17 March, 2016 Have we been fined for failing to control our players? That seems to be the usual compromise from the FA when they admit a refereeing error - "oh yeah that decision was wrong but we are going to fine you for trying to tell the ref how wrong he was" To be fair, I don't remember too much complaint from us in the refs face. Most of the ground were in a state of ''WTF?'' shock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 17 March, 2016 Share Posted 17 March, 2016 Why not go further and open it up to a telephone vote? Twitter, even, except that they wouldn't make any money out of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 17 March, 2016 Share Posted 17 March, 2016 I am glad it has beeb rescinded. Never a Red card and everyone knew it......except Lee Mason and his 'TEAM'. Would be interesting if the decision had led to us loosing the game what the outcome would have been. Still, onwards and upwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 17 March, 2016 Share Posted 17 March, 2016 Well said. Like it or not these referees are the best that we have. Anyone who has not tried to referee a game at any level is unlikely to appreciate the total concentration that is required and sometimes the brain can get overloaded, especially if the players don't help and start acting up. I agree that they're only human and will make mistakes, however questions need to be asked when a so called professional official makes a decision so glaringly bad that the entire ground can't quite believe what they've just seen, which is what the Mane red card was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 17 March, 2016 Share Posted 17 March, 2016 I am glad it has beeb rescinded. Never a Red card and everyone knew it......except Lee Mason and his 'TEAM'. Would be interesting if the decision had led to us loosing the game what the outcome would have been. Still, onwards and upwards. Had it been a game changer I reckon the card would stand, I can't see them opening themselves up to any kind of legal comeback that a club might try to bring. Imagine if that decision happened on the last day and led to a club being relegated, the fallout for the PL after a rescinded card could be massive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redder freak Posted 17 March, 2016 Share Posted 17 March, 2016 I hope the red card had absolutely nothing to do with the colour of his skin. Perish the thought! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 17 March, 2016 Share Posted 17 March, 2016 Is there any ref we like? Apart from Clive Thomas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 18 March, 2016 Share Posted 18 March, 2016 Had it been a game changer I reckon the card would stand, I can't see them opening themselves up to any kind of legal comeback that a club might try to bring. Imagine if that decision happened on the last day and led to a club being relegated, the fallout for the PL after a rescinded card could be massive. That is my thinking. The circumstances that we won anyway and it didn't effect the outcome made the decision easier then if we had suddenly lost after Mane was sent off and a free kick awarded from which they scored. I showed my son the match of the day footage and decision, and then showed him the decision from the Six nations match when Dan Cole had his face scratched and they used the Fourth official and TV coverage and he became another convert to the 'TV Ref' debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 18 March, 2016 Share Posted 18 March, 2016 I remember Trevor Kettle back in the Championship/League 1 days being very good to us. As soon as I saw him announced as our ref for that weekend's particular game I had a feeling we'd win and most of the time we did, don't actually remember a time he reffed us and we lost but I'm sure there was the odd occasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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