Lighthouse Posted 11 March, 2016 Posted 11 March, 2016 ... It were an annual competition. By which I mean we had one every calendar year with the break coming in winter not summer. I think it would be much more enjoyable having away days in sunnier weather with longer days. More beer gardens, fewer games called off because of frozen pitches (more of an issue in the lower leagues) and probably fewer muscle injuries. Probably better attendances too as I'm willing to bet a lot of older fans are put off by freezing cold winter games. I know it's not going to happen, just asking who would prefer it.
The9 Posted 11 March, 2016 Posted 11 March, 2016 I quite like having the football downtime at the same time as it's sunny. I can do other stuff, which is underrated. Like, er, go to Euro 2016 (or last year go and see Saints pre-season).
Badger Posted 11 March, 2016 Posted 11 March, 2016 No. Fixtures at Christmas and New Year have a special place in the calender and I wouldn't want to see us lose that, or FA Cup 3rd round day in early January.
Horley CTFC Saint Posted 11 March, 2016 Posted 11 March, 2016 ... It were an annual competition. By which I mean we had one every calendar year with the break coming in winter not summer. I think it would be much more enjoyable having away days in sunnier weather with longer days. More beer gardens, fewer games called off because of frozen pitches (more of an issue in the lower leagues) and probably fewer muscle injuries. Probably better attendances too as I'm willing to bet a lot of older fans are put off by freezing cold winter games. I know it's not going to happen, just asking who would prefer it. God no!
Saint86 Posted 11 March, 2016 Posted 11 March, 2016 ... It were an annual competition. By which I mean we had one every calendar year with the break coming in winter not summer. I think it would be much more enjoyable having away days in sunnier weather with longer days. More beer gardens, fewer games called off because of frozen pitches (more of an issue in the lower leagues) and probably fewer muscle injuries. Probably better attendances too as I'm willing to bet a lot of older fans are put off by freezing cold winter games. I know it's not going to happen, just asking who would prefer it. No.... World Cup, Euros etc etc etc.
Millbrook Saint Posted 12 March, 2016 Posted 12 March, 2016 the premier league would be better is if we cut out the cheating and all teams were forced to have equal budgets so that the rest of us aren't playing a support role to the glamour clubs and actually have a realistic chance of actually achieving something
Batman Posted 12 March, 2016 Posted 12 March, 2016 the premier league would be better is if we cut out the cheating and all teams were forced to have equal budgets so that the rest of us aren't playing a support role to the glamour clubs and actually have a realistic chance of actually achieving something would you think it would have been fair that when we were in league 1, we had the same budget as yeovil or dagenham?
Badger Posted 12 March, 2016 Posted 12 March, 2016 the premier league would be better is if we cut out the cheating and all teams were forced to have equal budgets so that the rest of us aren't playing a support role to the glamour clubs and actually have a realistic chance of actually achieving something Pure fantasy island though. The only way to achieve that would be an American style/MSL format where the league operate a system of allocating players so that no club has an advantage of financial clout. (Assuming I've understood the US system correctly that is). Wouldn't work here. The other option to even out the system would be for the big 4 or 5 to bugger off into the European Super league they dream of, leaving the rest to play the domestic game. This has been motted for years though, although it may still happen. Talking of it 15 years ago and a Man Utd fan ( one who was actually from Lancashire as well) said he hoped it wouldn't happen because he would miss games against the likes of City (who were a lesser club then), Southampton and West Ham.
CB Fry Posted 12 March, 2016 Posted 12 March, 2016 the premier league would be better is if we cut out the cheating and all teams were forced to have equal budgets so that the rest of us aren't playing a support role to the glamour clubs and actually have a realistic chance of actually achieving something Good luck to Leicester on Monday night.
Faz Posted 12 March, 2016 Posted 12 March, 2016 Would the Premier League be better if.......... It was played with an oval ball. Or, Every time a team scores a goal, they lose a player
Redslo Posted 13 March, 2016 Posted 13 March, 2016 (edited) the premier league would be better is if we cut out the cheating and all teams were forced to have equal budgets so that the rest of us aren't playing a support role to the glamour clubs and actually have a realistic chance of actually achieving something That won't happen so long as you keep relegation. Pure fantasy island though. The only way to achieve that would be an American style/MSL format where the league operate a system of allocating players so that no club has an advantage of financial clout. (Assuming I've understood the US system correctly that is). Wouldn't work here. The other option to even out the system would be for the big 4 or 5 to bugger off into the European Super league they dream of, leaving the rest to play the domestic game. This has been motted for years though, although it may still happen. Talking of it 15 years ago and a Man Utd fan ( one who was actually from Lancashire as well) said he hoped it wouldn't happen because he would miss games against the likes of City (who were a lesser club then), Southampton and West Ham. Close enough for the purposes of this discussion. However, all American sports leagues work on some variant of this process and there is probably no way to make it work in England, because, as I said, relegation would have to go. Also, a critical part of American sports balance is that there must be a way of allocating players that gives an advantage to the weaker clubs--in other words a draft where the lowest finishing club drafts first before the next season. I don't think European labor law would permit this--although perhaps the UK could implement it after leaving the EU. Also, American law allows players to be more permanently bound to their clubs. In major league baseball players are bound to their club for six major league seasons. This is on top of the time the spend in the minor leagues. There is functionally no reliable way players can compel a club to trade (transfer) them. On the other hand, players are less likely to want to move because their are no clubs that are inherently superior such that they have no shot at a championship without moving. My club, the San Francisco Giants, for example has won three of the last six world championships and is (depending on how you want to calculate it) the third or fourth richest club. But it wasn't that high on the list a few years ago. It got there by being successful rather than being successful by being rich. It seems unlikely that the richer English clubs will go for anything like this. Only if the bigger and richer clubs move to a European Super League will there be a fair and balanced competition in English Football. Another interesting question is whether the Superleague would adopt American style balance rules such as a draft, revenue sharing, and a true salary cap. Would the Premier League be better if.......... It was played with an oval ball. Or, Every time a team scores a goal, they lose a player That is just crazy talk. The ball should be round, but much smaller, and the other club should gain a player whenever their opponent scores. Edited 13 March, 2016 by Redslo
Whitey Grandad Posted 13 March, 2016 Posted 13 March, 2016 Would the Premier League be better if.......... It was played with an oval ball. Or, Every time a team scores a goal, they lose a player We've always like the idea of a Joker that you could play once in a season before any game. Any points from that game are doubled.
Badger Posted 13 March, 2016 Posted 13 March, 2016 We've always like the idea of a Joker that you could play once in a season before any game. Any points from that game are doubled. Wonder if Stuart Hall has any other suggestions as to how the game can be revolutionised? Maybe he should form a think tank with Adam Johnson.
david in sweden Posted 13 March, 2016 Posted 13 March, 2016 ... It were an annual competition. By which I mean we had one every calendar year with the break coming in winter not summer. I think it would be much more enjoyable having away days in sunnier weather with longer days. More beer gardens, fewer games called off because of frozen pitches (more of an issue in the lower leagues) and probably fewer muscle injuries. Probably better attendances too as I'm willing to bet a lot of older fans are put off by freezing cold winter games. I know it's not going to happen, just asking who would prefer it. Obviously - you're not a cricket fan, Lighthouse ....
Lighthouse Posted 13 March, 2016 Author Posted 13 March, 2016 No.... World Cup, Euros etc etc etc. Need they necessarily be held in European summer time? Anywhere in the Southern Hemisphere would be early summer in November and December.
Whitey Grandad Posted 13 March, 2016 Posted 13 March, 2016 Wonder if Stuart Hall has any other suggestions as to how the game can be revolutionised? Maybe he should form a think tank with Adam Johnson. Where I come from 'think tank' is rhyming slang for something.
beatlesaint Posted 14 March, 2016 Posted 14 March, 2016 No football at Christmas? You're joking, right? yeah, its bad enough there are no Saints / Prem games at Easter for the first time i can ever remember !
Lets B Avenue Posted 14 March, 2016 Posted 14 March, 2016 yeah, its bad enough there are no Saints / Prem games at Easter for the first time i can ever remember ! You must be still at school then, if you can't remember 2005.
notnowcato Posted 14 March, 2016 Posted 14 March, 2016 Where I come from 'think tank' is rhyming slang for something. ...but it doesn't even rhyme.
notnowcato Posted 14 March, 2016 Posted 14 March, 2016 The Premier League would be better if..... all the money clubs f**ked off to some European Super Duper League.
Lighthouse Posted 14 March, 2016 Author Posted 14 March, 2016 No football at Christmas? You're joking, right? It would be a draw back I admit. Perhaps every club could host a charity match on Boxing Day and NYD.
beatlesaint Posted 14 March, 2016 Posted 14 March, 2016 You must be still at school then, if you can't remember 2005. No I'm not and no I don't remember no Easter games in 2005. My point is, as you are probably aware, that Easter is like Christmas, traditionally a big deal for football, and to not be playing at all is just wrong. i remember playing on Good Friday then Easter Monday young fella
Daft Kerplunk Posted 14 March, 2016 Posted 14 March, 2016 ...Spurs, Chelsea or Man Utd never win the league again. Yes it would. As for the original question, you should get a middle eastern state involved in your quest as they managed to get the World Cup to f**k the whole system that's been in existence for 100 or so years up.
Lets B Avenue Posted 14 March, 2016 Posted 14 March, 2016 No I'm not and no I don't remember no Easter games in 2005. My point is, as you are probably aware, that Easter is like Christmas, traditionally a big deal for football, and to not be playing at all is just wrong. i remember playing on Good Friday then Easter Monday young fella And the Saturday in between. Proof of 2005. http://www.statto.com/football/stats/results/2005-03-26
stockportsaint Posted 15 March, 2016 Posted 15 March, 2016 Would the Premier League be better if.......... It was played with an oval ball. Or, Every time a team scores a goal, they lose a player No more ridiculous than the OP. our summer sport has been cricket for hundreds of years
skintsaint Posted 15 March, 2016 Posted 15 March, 2016 Cut the number of teams down to 18 in our league, re-format the league cup so less games for top flight teams somehow.
Batman Posted 15 March, 2016 Posted 15 March, 2016 Cut the number of teams down to 18 in our league, re-format the league cup so less games for top flight teams somehow. worst suggestion of all. no chance of cutting the sides
skintsaint Posted 15 March, 2016 Posted 15 March, 2016 worst suggestion of all. no chance of cutting the sides no offence, but if you say its the worst suggestion it most likely isnt
Badger Posted 15 March, 2016 Posted 15 March, 2016 Cut the number of teams down to 18 in our league, re-format the league cup so less games for top flight teams somehow. Great idea. More time to allow our 'top, top players' to rest, and benefit our chances in European competions, and the national team. and even more meaningless but lucrative friendlies and tours to Asia and the Middle East.
Whitey Grandad Posted 15 March, 2016 Posted 15 March, 2016 Cut the number of teams down to 18 in our league, re-format the league cup so less games for top flight teams somehow. Why? The whole point of a professional club is to provide entertainment for a paying public. I don't believe that this entertainment shold be provided solely throgh the electronic media. A far better suggestion is to cut out the league stages of the Champions League.
Faz Posted 15 March, 2016 Posted 15 March, 2016 No more ridiculous than the OP. our summer sport has been cricket for hundreds of years Thank you. I've got loads of them. How about making it in to a handicap? The Champions start the next season on -19, 2nd place -18 and so on to the play off winners who start on 0. Gives everyone a chance. Or, if you go bust twice in 3 years you get relegated to L2.
david in sweden Posted 15 March, 2016 Posted 15 March, 2016 or maybe there should be a Springtime competition ....... .....for all those teams who don't make it through the qualifying /group stages of Euro competitions and teams who go out of the FA Cup in Round 3 and 4 and every team with an A,E, I O or U in their name ....and all teams who have at least one team shirt in Red or Black..with ties played on a two leg basis + extra time and penalties. :lol:
Redslo Posted 15 March, 2016 Posted 15 March, 2016 or maybe there should be a Springtime competition ....... .....for all those teams who don't make it through the qualifying /group stages of Euro competitions and teams who go out of the FA Cup in Round 3 and 4 and every team with an A,E, I O or U in their name ....and all teams who have at least one team shirt in Red or Black..with ties played on a two leg basis + extra time and penalties. :lol: Even when the match did not end in a draw.
david in sweden Posted 16 March, 2016 Posted 16 March, 2016 Even when the match did not end in a draw. ....why not? ....the fans should get their money's worth ....
david in sweden Posted 16 March, 2016 Posted 16 March, 2016 Why? The whole point of a professional club is to provide entertainment for a paying public. I don't believe that this entertainment shold be provided solely throgh the electronic media. A far better suggestion is to cut out the league stages of the Champions League. a common sense idea Whitey, but that's where the big TV income originates.... but did you read that the new FIFA boss wants 40 teams to be in final stages of future World Cups?.... I mean why not have all 208 countries in the competition ?....oops they do that already - don't they?
scotty Posted 16 March, 2016 Posted 16 March, 2016 The Premier League would be better if..... all the money clubs f**ked off to some European Super Duper League. I'm for that. But they have to take their refs with them.
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