Le Timmier Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 I dont know is the answer. I do know we were an entertaining club for many seasons and finished 2nd in that time and so exceeded the present regime. Me neither, and I agree - yes we were. But was that 2nd placed finish not us punching above our weight?
Lighthouse Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 How can people not get this.... We sell players for so we have money to reinvest in the club. If we didn't, right now we would be trying to replace Lallana for free. How good a replacement do you think we'd find on a Bosman? Good news though, we wouldn't have sold Mané because without selling Lallana we couldn't have bought him in the first place. People genuinely can't see to realise why players leave us for Liverpool and Man Utd. They have more money than us, it's that simple. If Everton offered Tony Pulis or Aitor Karanka £7m a year, they'd have gone to. The just didn't because Koeman is better. It's the same with players. We aren't the only club either Everton sold Rooney, Lescott, Fellaini, Stones, Arteta, Gravesen and Peinaar West Ham sold Defoe, Carrick, Ferdinand, Tevez, Mascherano and Lampard Spurs sold Bale, Robbie Keane, Modric, Berbatov, Carrick and Sol Campbell (who buggered off on a Bosman)
Guan 2.0 Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 I doubt it, most reports about Tello said he heavily favoured returning to Fiorentina.. The mystery man Guan has been hinting at is meant to be keen to join us. It isn't Tello. But i do have some bad news. The player's club have rejected our last offer, so the move looks dead. Guess they actually wanted to keep him, and weren't just jacking up the price. I regret I don't have better tidings, as I know it's not exactly happy on here at the moment.
shurlock Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 It isn't Tello. But i do have some bad news. The player's club have rejected our last offer, so the move looks dead. Guess they actually wanted to keep him, and weren't just jacking up the price. I regret I don't have better tidings, as I know it's not exactly happy on here at the moment. Can you tell us or give us a firmer clue who it is?
St.JonB Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 I think the frustration comes from the fact after a great last season we were all hoping that we would not have to go through another depressing pre-season. I don't care what you post on here, if you were told after the Man City game what was going to happen next it would have wiped the smile of your face. Just hope we get a player in we can all get excited about.
OttawaSaint Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 The top 4 or 5 threads on the forum all seem to be the same at the moment. Can we keep this one for transfer targets and keep the bickering to another thread? Hopefully we get some solid leads and get in a forward in the next couple of weeks or so. With the Europa campaign we look a bit light up front.
MOSaint Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 Oh well, as long as we have another target to move onto now this one is dead.
Saints foreva Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 First time in a while I've found myself questioning the club. I'm never normally pessimistic but I think it takes someone extremely positive to not see that this summer has been sh*t. We need to spend more money as we are significantly weaker than last season. Not asking for us to spend huge amounts but I think it's realistic to expect us to spend what we have brought in from transfer fees at the very minimum. Pretty much this.
Saint Matty 76 Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 Couldn't agree more. A negative net spend this Summer would be embarrassing.
harriesss Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 Hal, Hal Robson, Hal Robson-Kanu. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Saint_Ash Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 I think an excellent attacking player that can walk straight into the team, in effect a Mane replacement, and I think the window is fine. Just that one player, let's make him a good one.
OldNick Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 Me neither, and I agree - yes we were. But was that 2nd placed finish not us punching above our weight?Its hard to say as at that time we had a squad of superb players and team good enough to do so. Is that punching above your weight? The UK olympic team is aabove China Germany ,Russia is that punching above our weight or just that we have invested in the squad and nurtured a team.
LeBenali Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 It isn't Tello. But i do have some bad news. The player's club have rejected our last offer, so the move looks dead. Guess they actually wanted to keep him, and weren't just jacking up the price. I regret I don't have better tidings, as I know it's not exactly happy on here at the moment. Interesting. I wonder whether we'll go back in with an increased deadline day bid if nothing else materialises - it may not be the Southampton Way, but sometimes you've got to throw caution to the wind. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
James Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 Hope we weren't putting all our eggs in one basket and can get someone else in before the window shuts. Doesn't really matter when as it won't be done pre Man U and hopefully we have enough about us to get something out of Sunderland at home without reinforcements.
Batman Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 It isn't Tello. But i do have some bad news. The player's club have rejected our last offer, so the move looks dead. Guess they actually wanted to keep him, and weren't just jacking up the price. I regret I don't have better tidings, as I know it's not exactly happy on here at the moment. It's ok. The black box constantly monitors 3 or 3 players for each position for any eventuality
ally_uk Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 Look at this way when we had Mane, Pelle if we had any sort of ambition then? When we were 6th why didnt we lay down another 30 million sign two more decent players and go for the top 4? To me that was the best oppurtunity to go for Champions League we will not see a similar postion / opportunity. We are small time easily posched that is the Southampton way
OldNick Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 It isn't Tello. But i do have some bad news. The player's club have rejected our last offer, so the move looks dead. Guess they actually wanted to keep him, and weren't just jacking up the price. I regret I don't have better tidings, as I know it's not exactly happy on here at the moment. I dont know why I wasnt suprised with this. Can you tell us when Puel was interviewed if it went like this Name ? Claude Do we need to buy anyone? No You've got the job
Le Timmier Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 Its hard to say as at that time we had a squad of superb players and team good enough to do so. Is that punching above your weight? The UK olympic team is aabove China Germany ,Russia is that punching above our weight or just that we have invested in the squad and nurtured a team. Difficult to say isn't it? I once got my paws on Caroline in sixth form. I didn't think I was punching above my weight, but others seemed to think so...
OldNick Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 Difficult to say isn't it? I once got my paws on Caroline in sixth form. I didn't think I was punching above my weight, but others seemed to think so... yeah but you were 45 at the time lol
wild-saint Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 The club clearly consider their business done otherwise they would employ the same tactics as every other club does on us to unsettle a player. Maybe if lose a couple of games we may see a little bit of a knee jerk reaction and chase someone else.
OldNick Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 Interesting. I wonder whether we'll go back in with an increased deadline day bid if nothing else materialises - it may not be the Southampton Way, but sometimes you've got to throw caution to the wind. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalkif the club really didnt want to sell, why ddint we pick up on that quicker and not waste our time?
SO16_Saint Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 It isn't Tello. But i do have some bad news. The player's club have rejected our last offer, so the move looks dead. Guess they actually wanted to keep him, and weren't just jacking up the price. I regret I don't have better tidings, as I know it's not exactly happy on here at the moment. What do you mean? I thought that it had nothing to do with the selling club what happens... So long as the buying club wants a player, and said player wants to leave, I thought it was nailed on...
DT Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 So just the scoring goals and keeping them out a problem then Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
OldNick Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 What do you mean? I thought that it had nothing to do with the selling club what happens... So long as the buying club wants a player, and said player wants to leave, I thought it was nailed on...Lol......the player must have had 2 years left on his contract....oh
Greenridge Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 I'll be (pleasantly) surprised if we do make another signing this window regardless of whether Fonte leaves or not. Claude's happy with his squad. Apparently.
Chalkboy Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 The player's club have rejected our last offer, so the move looks dead. By "last offer" do you mean "final offer" or "latest offer"?
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 Disappointing news from Guan, fingers crossed we'll switch targets. I am happy with our team as long as we bring in another attacker, however I will be very disappointed if we don't, it will feel like the club are resting on their laurels.
mrfahaji Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 How can people not get this.... We sell players for so we have money to reinvest in the club. If we didn't, right now we would be trying to replace Lallana for free. How good a replacement do you think we'd find on a Bosman? Good news though, we wouldn't have sold Mané because without selling Lallana we couldn't have bought him in the first place. People genuinely can't see to realise why players leave us for Liverpool and Man Utd. They have more money than us, it's that simple. If Everton offered Tony Pulis or Aitor Karanka £7m a year, they'd have gone to. The just didn't because Koeman is better. It's the same with players. We aren't the only club either Everton sold Rooney, Lescott, Fellaini, Stones, Arteta, Gravesen and Peinaar West Ham sold Defoe, Carrick, Ferdinand, Tevez, Mascherano and Lampard Spurs sold Bale, Robbie Keane, Modric, Berbatov, Carrick and Sol Campbell (who buggered off on a Bosman) Maybe the reason why someone would join Everton or West Ham would be because of more money. However I don't think that's the only (although of course it is a big one) why players go to Arsenal, Liverpool or Manchester United. You're performing on one of the biggest stages of world football every week, alongside superstars of the game (maybe not quite so much for Liverpool, but close). A trip to the Emirates or Old Trafford, even if they are notoriously quiet, and you realise what a step up it is from St Mary's. If I was a professional, I'd want to play for Southampton. But if I played for years and had an opportunity to play for Manchester United at some point, even I'd consider it (maybe a 1 season loan, ha).
SuperSAINT Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 Disappointing news from Guan, fingers crossed we'll switch targets. Perhaps linked with us watching Rafa Silva the other day?
davefizzy14 Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 Was this the same player that AR-10 was talking about before? Still hoping we can get Boufal.
Saint Garrett Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 How can people not get this.... We sell players for so we have money to reinvest in the club. If we didn't, right now we would be trying to replace Lallana for free. How good a replacement do you think we'd find on a Bosman? Good news though, we wouldn't have sold Mané because without selling Lallana we couldn't have bought him in the first place. People genuinely can't see to realise why players leave us for Liverpool and Man Utd. They have more money than us, it's that simple. If Everton offered Tony Pulis or Aitor Karanka £7m a year, they'd have gone to. The just didn't because Koeman is better. It's the same with players. We aren't the only club either Everton sold Rooney, Lescott, Fellaini, Stones, Arteta, Gravesen and Peinaar West Ham sold Defoe, Carrick, Ferdinand, Tevez, Mascherano and Lampard Spurs sold Bale, Robbie Keane, Modric, Berbatov, Carrick and Sol Campbell (who buggered off on a Bosman) Difference is these were all over a number of years, we've lost a more players in 3 consecutive summers....with a good chance to push on at the end of each of those seasons, and we've decided not to do it. I will rate the squad when the transfer window is closed, however at the moment we are lacking and not sure you'll find one Saints fan who will say it's currently been a successful window...!
mrfahaji Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 Couldn't agree more. A negative net spend this Summer would be embarrassing. I don't mind spending close to what we've brought in, but we must be sitting on a net spend of -£30m odd at the moment. Very frustrating.
Heisenberg Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 I dont know why I wasnt suprised with this. Can you tell us when Puel was interviewed if it went like this Name ? Claude Do we need to buy anyone? No You've got the job Haha superb
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 Was this the same player that AR-10 was talking about before? Still hoping we can get Boufal. Yes I believe so.
trousers Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 It isn't Tello. But i do have some bad news. The player's club have rejected our last offer, so the move looks dead. Guess they actually wanted to keep him, and weren't just jacking up the price. I regret I don't have better tidings, as I know it's not exactly happy on here at the moment. If it's dead can we know who it is/was?! No, because this is obviously a tactic by Saints to get the player's club to accept our 'final' bid.... Senior SFC bod: Hey, Guan Guan: Yes boss? SFC: have turned down our final offer for Guan: That's a bugger. Anything you'd like me to do? SFC: Sure. If you could post on the SaintsWeb Forum that we've made our final offer. That way, the news will filter through to that we're not going to raise our bid and that the deal is dead, at which point they'll come crawling back to us to accept our current offer. Guan: Ah, nice one boss. Leave it with me... [yes, you're right. Utter nonsense from trousers yet again]
Heisenberg Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 I don't mind spending close to what we've brought in, but we must be sitting on a net spend of -£30m odd at the moment. Very frustrating. £40m this summer and £25m 2 summers back
trousers Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 Was this the same player that AR-10 was talking about before? I'm expecting an 'exclusive' update any time soon... Yours cynically....
mrfahaji Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 Difference is these were all over a number of years, we've lost a more players in 3 consecutive summers....with a good chance to push on at the end of each of those seasons, and we've decided not to do it. I will rate the squad when the transfer window is closed, however at the moment we are lacking and not sure you'll find one Saints fan who will say it's currently been a successful window...! At the start of each recent season it has appeared like we've taken two steps back and one forward, whereas it's probably been the opposite. Would you agree? My issue with this season is that we haven't even tried to replace all the players we've lost - I'll give the club the benefit of the doubt on whether they've made a good signing, but they have to at least sign someone in the first place! That doesn't even factor in the extra Europa League exertion. Or the new formation which depends on players adapting well to positions they've never played previously. It could be a masterstroke but feels a little like a house of cards.
Sour Mash Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 It isn't Tello. But i do have some bad news. The player's club have rejected our last offer, so the move looks dead. Guess they actually wanted to keep him, and weren't just jacking up the price. I regret I don't have better tidings, as I know it's not exactly happy on here at the moment. If the deal is dead, you can tell us who it was.
Crab Lungs Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 Id say we need a defensive mid more than any other position. We're going to be overrun quite frequently if we keep Romeu and JWP partnered up. Oh well, few more days to go in the window...
Crab Lungs Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 I'm expecting an 'exclusive' update any time soon... Yours cynically.... I'll save you the time in waiting for the exclusive Waffle waffle waffle waffle possibly potentially maybe as I understand it waffle waffle waffle
doddisalegend Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 An actual rumour http://www.eatsleepsport.com/southampton/saints-sense-chance-for-dost-swoop-2133296.html#/.V7MvQkZwbq0
ErwinK1961 Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 An actual rumour http://www.eatsleepsport.com/southampton/saints-sense-chance-for-dost-swoop-2133296.html#/.V7MvQkZwbq0 You must have got the wrong thread. This is the meltdown volume 65 thread.
SuperSAINT Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 An actual rumour http://www.eatsleepsport.com/southampton/saints-sense-chance-for-dost-swoop-2133296.html#/.V7MvQkZwbq0 Would be a great Pelle replacement, but surely wouldn't fit into this new system?
Saint_Ash Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 I thought the deal was pretty much done and close to being announced last week, if they had not even accepted our offer then we were miles from done so where did this deadline come from? People are being fed rubbish and no one knows anything in my opinion. "Put out there we are buying someone, will be a massive deal, break our records..." a few days later - "Ahh no, it never happened, tut, oh well, we'll keep looking" Hard to believe anything until the signing has been announced.
OldNick Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 I thought the deal was pretty much done and close to being announced last week, if they had not even accepted our offer then we were miles from done so where did this deadline come from? People are being fed rubbish and no one knows anything in my opinion. "Put out there we are buying someone, will be a massive deal, break our records..." a few days later - "Ahh no, it never happened, tut, oh well, we'll keep looking" Hard to believe anything until the signing has been announced.get us disappointed and then when an underwhelming signing comes in, it makes it seem a lot better lol Ricordo Fuller at 90k would be greeted in cwelebration at the mo :lol:
angelman Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 I thought the deal was pretty much done and close to being announced last week, if they had not even accepted our offer then we were miles from done so where did this deadline come from? People are being fed rubbish and no one knows anything in my opinion. "Put out there we are buying someone, will be a massive deal, break our records..." a few days later - "Ahh no, it never happened, tut, oh well, we'll keep looking" Hard to believe anything until the signing has been announced. It's much the best position to take.
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 Would be a great Pelle replacement, but surely wouldn't fit into this new system? Not sure Dost is that good in all honesty, feel like his best form has been purely a purple patch and not done a huge amount apart from that.
doddisalegend Posted 16 August, 2016 Posted 16 August, 2016 Would be a great Pelle replacement, but surely wouldn't fit into this new system? Yeah I thought the same. I always thought he was a target man so I don't know where he'd play in the new system.
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