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nta786

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Whilst Mane was clearly a menace for the last five games of the season with six goals and running (some) defences ragged, it was a TEAM effort. The entire Saints team (to the obvious bemusement of the then manager) pulled together and won the four of five they were asked to, (with Tadic supplying nine assists those games). The most unlikely win, and therefore the three points that really made the difference between 6th and 8th came at White Heart Lane; where Mane completed just over an hour, had the lowest pass completion of any player on the pitch and no shots.Therefore, if you really want to reduce a team effort over 38 games to one players achievement at the end of the season, it should be Steven Davis you give the plaudits to. La.Sh!t. Just realised this is the Summer Targets thread and I've been drawn in. Balls. Ah well, I've typed it now. Sorry!

 

The irony in this post is that Steven Davis is basically hated by verlaine :lol: :lol:

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Dost would be cheap - seem to remember we bid £9euros for him and it was rejected.

 

One of the ITK said we had an offer accepted but it was with the player - hope it's Tello or Boufal.

 

Tello & Boufal would be awesome and give us a pretty awesome squad - not too fussed on Dost as I think Austin/Long/JRod can score enough.

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mrfahaji

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Hope we are going to use wingers

 

Same, not least because I think Tadic and Redmond are two of our most dangerous assets and that's where they are best suited. Quite happy for us to try this new system and use it as an alternative in certain games, but hope that's all it is.

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Defour? What the hell do we need him for? Terrible player who offers nothing really

 

Agree - At best a Belgian version of Joey Barton... He will add very little to us

If we are to go shopping at Anderlecht then at least we should try for Tielemans...

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captainchris

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Easy, Mane basically hauled us there single-handedly over the last 2 months of the season.

 

Oh dear you can't say things like that on here ..... :-)))

Shame about the comments regarding 'did he play in goal' etc.....

Obviously he did have a massive individual effect on the last last few games and we haven't replaced him .....

That is a concern particularly as we have let Pelle go too... I wasn't his biggest fan but he had a role..

Hopefully we have more replacements to come but really they should be here in pre season if we are to very well prepared ....

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Nolan

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Pied is gash.... Are we actually going to spend money? Or each season are we going to sell our prize assets and sign tat....

When have you ever watched him play? Or is that opinion coming from ignorance of foreign leagues?

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From Jeremy Wilson's interview with Puel yesterday it seems he likes the idea of putting Redmond up front, that will get the panickers panicking about not buying a new forward...

 

That jumped out for me too. Right after the comments about developing Henry.......so is he trying to make an English version!?

 

That said, if his system asks the front two to split wide, then it makes some sense to utilise a striker who is comfortable out wide, so why not give it a go?

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ADutchSaint

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Agree - At best a Belgian version of Joey Barton... He will add very little to us

If we are to go shopping at Anderlecht then at least we should try for Tielemans...

 

I just don't get what Defour would add to our squad, no height, no pace, not creative, doesn't score a lot and defensively he ain't a monster so what's left?

 

If we want another CM we should be looking at Van Ginkel if you ask me. Chelsea wants to let him go so he won't be expensive, he's still young and would bring some qualities to our squad.

 

Not that we really need him tho, we should be looking at wingers and a ACM but that's just me

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Saint_Ash

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That jumped out for me too. Right after the comments about developing Henry.......so is he trying to make an English version!?

 

That said, if his system asks the front two to split wide, then it makes some sense to utilise a striker who is comfortable out wide, so why not give it a go?

Exactly, I don't think his pace is too far behind Mane's and if he can finish well then he'd make a decent striker.
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Nordic Saint

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Defour? What the hell do we need him for? Terrible player who offers nothing really

 

We seem to be targetting players who are available for 10 million or less and, sadly, nowadays, very few Premier League class players are. We might get lucky with one and a couple of others will probably be disappointments. I wonder to what extent the so-called Black Box decisions were down to Paul Mitchell. Our last really great signing, Van Dijk, was identified during his time here as we had been linked with him for more than a year. I doubt that the likes of Martina, Steckelenburg and Clasie were. Pied and McCarthy seem to have more in common with them. Redmond and Hojbjerg may be good. Let's hope they're in the Van Dijk class. I guess we'll find out this season from how Saints and Spurs respective signings turn out whether the Black Box room, with its videas and scouting reports, is a standalone sytem or whether the head of recruitment, Paul Mitchell, was the really crucial factor.

 

There is still such a massive amount of PL prize/TV money and money from players sold in the kitty that maybe the club will concede it can afford to go up to 20 million for one key player. i think we definitely need one to replace both Mane and Pelle. Based on the available evidence, I can't see Rodriguez and Austin both lasting a full season and in the case of Rodriguez we've seen nothing yet to suggest he's the player he was before he got inhjured..

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Give it to Ron

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Oh dear you can't say things like that on here ..... :-)))

Shame about the comments regarding 'did he play in goal' etc.....

Obviously he did have a massive individual effect on the last last few games and we haven't replaced him .....

That is a concern particularly as we have let Pelle go too... I wasn't his biggest fan but he had a role..

Hopefully we have more replacements to come but really they should be here in pre season if we are to very well prepared ....

 

Why because its such a stupid statement....VVD, Forster, Mane and Bertrand were as much of a reason.

As for not being his biggest fan - you didn't rate Koeman or the team much last season either going by your posts so Puel doesn't have much to do to beat him does he prepared or not.

I have not seen a post that states we don't need to replace Mane - I have seen several to say its being worked on, if a club are loathe to sell then not much we can do. Some players don't want to move south - some may not want to work for Puel who knows but I would bet we have one before the window closes.

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There is still such a massive amount of PL prize/TV money and money from players sold in the kitty that maybe the club will concede it can afford to go up to 20 million for one key player. i think we definitely need one to replace both Mane and Pelle. Based on the available evidence, I can't see Rodriguez and Austin both lasting a full season and in the case of Rodriguez we've seen nothing yet to suggest he's the player he was before he got inhjured..

 

I wouldn't be so rude as to say that that is a complete load of crottin (de cheval), but what is this "available evidence" that you talk about?

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We seem to be targetting players who are available for 10 million or less and, sadly, nowadays, very few Premier League class players are. ..

How much were Mane and Pelle signed for so by your reckoning not Prem class?

Was Paul Mitchell not responsible for Gaston, Osvaldo, Mayuka, Forren then?

Agreed about Rodriguez and the ITK have stated its being worked upon - we have to wait until the deal is done and window closed.

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Nordic Saint

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I wouldn't be so rude as to say that that is a complete load of crottin (de cheval), but what is this "available evidence" that you talk about?

 

It's unusual for you not ro resort to personal abuse or the lowest form of wit. But, the improvment is appreciated. What we've seen of his play since he came back from his injury. I like him and think it was a real tragedy that he got injured when he did. But, since he's come back he doesn't look as sharp or as dangerous in front of goal as he was. I really hope he improves.

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We seem to be targetting players who are available for 10 million or less and, sadly, nowadays, very few Premier League class players are. We might get lucky with one and a couple of others will probably be disappointments. I wonder to what extent the so-called Black Box decisions were down to Paul Mitchell. Our last really great signing, Van Dijk, was identified during his time here as we had been linked with him for more than a year. I doubt that the likes of Martina, Steckelenburg and Clasie were. Pied and McCarthy seem to have more in common with them. Redmond and Hojbjerg may be good. Let's hope they're in the Van Dijk class. I guess we'll find out this season from how Saints and Spurs respective signings turn out whether the Black Box room, with its videas and scouting reports, is a standalone sytem or whether the head of recruitment, Paul Mitchell, was the really crucial factor.

 

There is still such a massive amount of PL prize/TV money and money from players sold in the kitty that maybe the club will concede it can afford to go up to 20 million for one key player. i think we definitely need one to replace both Mane and Pelle. Based on the available evidence, I can't see Rodriguez and Austin both lasting a full season and in the case of Rodriguez we've seen nothing yet to suggest he's the player he was before he got inhjured..

 

Being the highly-intelligent, well-read and considered poster you are no doubt you will know everything that's been said on this forum in the last couple of months regarding the recruiting process and also in the past followed other pronouncements in e.g. the press that have indicated how it is the recruitment of players is carried out thus ensuring that you have identified one individual in a set up where it is continually stated that no one individual is key who is key and provided them with such a status that the company that employed him let him go and allowed him to take the keys to the kingdom with him.

 

As an alternative, those of us who read can take on board the (presumably agreed) facts that the club do not act in that manner, that they scout a large number of players, that a decision regarding the prospective employment of playing staff is carried out en masse but with some input into the process by the team manager as has been evident by a degree of skewing of recruitment towards players who formally played under the current manager albeit that that can still exist under the current methods employed above because the methods are somewhat more comprehensive than your, dare I say 'knee-jerk' reaction, that the loss of one part of a machine to another club is not necessarily here nor there, that despite the team being crap against Groningen that that will not necessarily be the case throughout the year (we do all hope that), that having seen Hojbjerg it is quite clear he already is a good player and that Redmond undoubtedly has very quick feet (I think what's in his head is what counts with him), etc (it's getting boring repeating things that should be common knowledge assuming people actually can read this forum/other sources and be able to even do the basic thing of keeping it in their vacuous heads) and don't see the loss of one person who left for a massive increase in pay as the end of the world because (go back to the top, re-read again and repeat ad nauseaum).

 

There are also indications from the ITKs (and a possibly new, genuine one) that a new player or two might yet arrive, a number of the u23s are to go out on loan and Jesus loves you. Ok, I made the last one up.

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austsaint

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Given that Villa are paying Fulham 12 million quid for Ross McCormack who turns 30 next week, it's pretty obvious that any attacking/creative signing we make may need to stretch the purse strings beyond the Club's preferred price of 10 - 12 million.

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Given that Villa are paying Fulham 12 million quid for Ross McCormack who turns 30 next week, it's pretty obvious that any attacking/creative signing we make may need to stretch the purse strings beyond the Club's preferred price of 10 - 12 million.

 

If we sign the player from a team in this country then yes - shop elsewhere, as we probably will, and we'll probably find a very good player for that value.

 

As an aside, if Villa, Norwich, want to pay that much for McCormack then they need their heads tested

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If we sign the player from a team in this country then yes - shop elsewhere, as we probably will, and we'll probably find a very good player for that value.

 

As an aside, if Villa, Norwich, want to pay that much for McCormack then they need their heads tested

 

Just seen that it's actually an initial 12m, and could rise to £15m.

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How much were Mane and Pelle signed for so by your reckoning not Prem class?

Was Paul Mitchell not responsible for Gaston, Osvaldo, Mayuka, Forren then?

Agreed about Rodriguez and the ITK have stated its being worked upon - we have to wait until the deal is done and window closed.

 

Do you mean a new signing is being worked on? Hopefully a number 10. Please be Boufal!

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Give it to Ron

Give it to Ron

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So how does Redmond fit into things?

 

From what I have seen the front 3 will be flexible to interchange - the problem some have jumped to IMO is that they think Redmond will be the main striker - he wont it will be one of the 3 like an old inside forward but also pressing high up. Just from pre-season games watched on YouTube you get a better idea watching live so hope to see this in next 2 friendlies.

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GitR, I meant more how does Redmond fit into the....Given that Villa are paying Fulham 12 million quid for Ross McCormack who turns 30 next week, it's pretty obvious that any attacking/creative signing we make may need to stretch the purse strings beyond the Club's preferred price of 10 - 12 million.

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See that relegated Villa will pay £12mill for McCormack so if they can spend that money on a striker - then a striker Saints need must be at least double that amount in this crazy football world.

 

No! Because we are saints. We are the club that don't need to throw money around to strengthen the team; every year we do it and make a profit!!!!

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No! Because we are saints. We are the club that don't need to throw money around to strengthen the team; every year we do it and make a profit!!!!

 

That worked wonders on Gaston and Osvaldo didn't it....we have strengthened weak positions in the squad - now I would like us to get a good striker/creative player to strengthen the first 11 - problem is so does everyone else.

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Guan 2.0

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Claude is being a good manager, and doing what he does best, generating an atmosphere of calm. If he had come out and said that "we have been conducting post match and training assessments, and concluded that we are lacking x, x and x in y area", then the press would have had a field day and our early opposition would have had a free game plan.

 

Instead, Puel and the club are reassuring the fans and avoiding sports pages devoted to bidding wars that fit the bill in one stroke.

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