Foxstone Posted 27 July, 2016 Share Posted 27 July, 2016 Slightly different profile of player there. Unfair to compare. Also wonder how you are judging Bastien's potential? Both Tielemans and Bastian are aged 19 - The former is a mainstay in the Anderlecht midfield and already called up at senior level for Belguim. Bastien sent on loan to Serie B Avellino. I think Tielemans is already fulfilling his potential when a similar aged Bastian seems well behind him currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 27 July, 2016 Share Posted 27 July, 2016 Could have kept Steck for £1m, he was happy to stay, but we didn't want to pay that much, so odd that we are now paying £2m for a keeper who is not as good. McCarthy is capable of saving shots, Stek isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 27 July, 2016 Share Posted 27 July, 2016 Good old irrelevant Pompey comparison. Maybe we should spend absolutely nothing just to be sure? I know its trousers being laughable with over the top and irrelevant comparisons again. In addition, a better comparison for some on here is where the pompey massive's blind trusting of the board got them. On the one hand you have people that want the club to always be improving... on the other hand you fans that like to remind us of our level, the glass ceiling and will be delighting in the "i told you so" moments when we don't achieve what most of us know we are capable of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggytrousers Posted 27 July, 2016 Share Posted 27 July, 2016 I know its trousers being laughable with over the top and irrelevant comparisons again. In addition, a better comparison for some on here is where the pompey massive's blind trusting of the board got them. On the one hand you have people that want the club to always be improving... on the other hand you fans that like to remind us of our level, the glass ceiling and will be delighting in the "i told you so" moments when we don't achieve what most of us know we are capable of. 'Given that the club have improved their position for seven seasons in a row now I assume that these people will be giving a big thumbs up to the board based on their excellent proven record of continuous improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratio_decidendi Posted 27 July, 2016 Share Posted 27 July, 2016 I know its trousers being laughable with over the top and irrelevant comparisons again. In addition, a better comparison for some on here is where the pompey massive's blind trusting of the board got them. On the one hand you have people that want the club to always be improving... on the other hand you fans that like to remind us of our level, the glass ceiling and will be delighting in the "i told you so" moments when we don't achieve what most of us know we are capable of. False dichotomy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 27 July, 2016 Share Posted 27 July, 2016 Not the best way to phrase it admittedly but for whatever reason we didn't put up much of a fight for Pelle and Mane when both had time left on their contract. (I don't doubt that's for good reason, maybe just for money or maybe both were arseholes?) Either way we had some power to stop them leaving this season if we wanted to hold onto them but we didn't. You think we could have kept Pelle and stop him earning 260k a week??.....don't think I agree with you on that. Mane will be missed as he was so unpredictable but 5 months without scoring and 12 goals last season 8 in last 8 games, we need to replace that same as nearly everyone else thinks really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Fred Posted 27 July, 2016 Share Posted 27 July, 2016 I was 16 and everybody looked old aged to me in those days. I expect they were only in their 20's lol, even so it was 40 years ago and and even the ones in their late 20's will be in their late 60's lol...65% then? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 27 July, 2016 Share Posted 27 July, 2016 Alex McCarthy for £2m agreed according to Sky sports Big step up for him. 4th choice at Palace to 2nd choice for us. IMO, not as good as any of the other 'keepers we were linked with. Probably our 3rd or 4th choice I would imagine. Heyho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 27 July, 2016 Share Posted 27 July, 2016 'Given that the club have improved their position for seven seasons in a row now I assume that these people will be giving a big thumbs up to the board based on their excellent proven record of continuous improvement. We improved 4 seasons in a row with the previous board, and 2 (that's 6 not 7) with the current board. Will give a massive thumbs up when the current board match their predecessors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBenali Posted 27 July, 2016 Share Posted 27 July, 2016 Big step up for him. 4th choice at Palace to 2nd choice for us. IMO, not as good as any of the other 'keepers we were linked with. Probably our 3rd or 4th choice I would imagine. Heyho. Agree that it doesn't fill me with excitement, but at the same time it's hard to get excited about reserve goalies! Dave Watson would have seen McCarthy briefly when he was called up to the England squad in the summer of 2013, perhaps he saw something then & feels he can unlock his potential? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Saint Posted 27 July, 2016 Share Posted 27 July, 2016 Seem to be one of the few who thinks this is a decent bit of business . I agree, he is a good keeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Timmier Posted 27 July, 2016 Share Posted 27 July, 2016 We improved 4 seasons in a row with the previous board, and 2 (that's 6 not 7) with the current board. Will give a massive thumbs up when the current board match their predecessors OK the first season of improvement was in a lower division and I agree you could argue that we finished lower (7th in L1) than the season before (23rd in the Champ) so technically we didn't improve our position. But we went from a horrible "gettingspankedwithPoortvliet&Wotteincharge" type 23rd to a exciting 7th, loadsa goals and a cup win. So I'm giving the old board 5 seasons and calling it 7 :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 27 July, 2016 Share Posted 27 July, 2016 Commentator on the live stream really talking Ziyech up!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slugger Posted 27 July, 2016 Share Posted 27 July, 2016 Commentator on the live stream really talking Ziyech up!! Also sounded like he had never heard of him until this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 27 July, 2016 Share Posted 27 July, 2016 SAINTS IN McCARTHY TALKS Southampton are in talks with Crystal Palace over a deal for goalkeeper Alex McCarthy, Sky sources understand. No deal has been agreed but we understand the player would be keen on the move to St. Mary's. Southampton are looking for a keeper to replace Martin Stekelenburg, who joined Everton this summer. Palace, meanwhile, have already signed Steve Mandanda this summer to compete with Wayne Hennessey and Julian Speroni. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 27 July, 2016 Share Posted 27 July, 2016 Scouts watching Rueben Samedo from Sporting. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 27 July, 2016 Share Posted 27 July, 2016 Scouts watching Rueben Samedo from Sporting. I remember the name from earlier this summer. 6'2" tall. 22 year old centre-back. The football season may not have officially started yet, but the scouts are already back working. Southampton have reportedly sent some of their emissaries to watch Ruben Semedo of Sporting. This is not the first time that the Saints’ interest in the defender is reported, and now A Bola says the club are just keeping an eye on him. At the time the first speculation was published, it was said that Southampton would pay around €15m for the 22-year-old. Semedo has a contract until 2022, with a €45m release clause. He’s not an essential player for the Sporting squad, especially after the former Sunderland defender Sebastian Coates joined the club last winter. If joining Southampton, Semedo would play alongside two other Portuguese players in the back four: Cedric Soares and José Fonte. Source: http://sportwitness.co.uk/southampton-officials-portugal-possible-transfer-reported-portuguese-press/? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 27 July, 2016 Share Posted 27 July, 2016 Scouts watching Rueben Samedo from Sporting. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk A quite delicious €45m release clause in his contract. Good old Portuguese football. Wikipedia tells me he gets sent off a lot. And doesn't seem to have played much, for anyone. I have completed my research and have concluded that he is sh it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 27 July, 2016 Share Posted 27 July, 2016 FC Twente Latest @FCTwenteLatest Five clubs from around Europe concretely interested in Ziyech. Offers have been made. #FCTwente ^ These guys re-tweeted a Dutch video (that won't play in this country) with somebody from Twente confirming it. #ZiyechWatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 27 July, 2016 Share Posted 27 July, 2016 Big step up for him. 4th choice at Palace to 2nd choice for us. IMO, not as good as any of the other 'keepers we were linked with. Probably our 3rd or 4th choice I would imagine. Heyho. Disagree, he was decent at Reading and has potential. Would be a good signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 27 July, 2016 Share Posted 27 July, 2016 A quite delicious €45m release clause in his contract. Good old Portuguese football. Wikipedia tells me he gets sent off a lot. And doesn't seem to have played much, for anyone. I have completed my research and have concluded that he is sh it. I'm sold. If we spend that much on a player I will get an inflated sense of self worth, I will be able to feel like saints are a big club, I can laugh at Everton and use words like "statement of intent". Weather he is actually any good or not is less important... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 27 July, 2016 Share Posted 27 July, 2016 ^ These guys re-tweeted a Dutch video (that won't play in this country) with somebody from Twente confirming it. #ZiyechWatch Didn't realize quite how much better Ziyech's stats are compared to Wijnaldum, who looked decent in the premier league after some doubt over the quality of the Dutch league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cartman Posted 27 July, 2016 Share Posted 27 July, 2016 A quite delicious €45m release clause in his contract. Good old Portuguese football. Wikipedia tells me he gets sent off a lot. And doesn't seem to have played much, for anyone. I have completed my research and have concluded that he is sh it. A far bigger deal is made of release clauses than it should, they are mandatory according to Spanish & Portuguese law. All it means is that they have to accept a bid of that amount, not that they won't accept less. The absence of release clauses like with our players is effectively the same as having a release clause set at infinity. The player is a bit raw and makes a few mistakes at times but has everything to be a top centre back. If we want somebody who will initially be an understudy and will eventually take over from Fonte, he fits the bill and is about as good as we can get. Played a lot this year too, Sporting brought him back from his loan in January and immediately became first choice over Paulo Oliveira who has already been called up to the national team. Besides, we no longer have a player who will get sent off three times in the same season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 27 July, 2016 Share Posted 27 July, 2016 OK the first season of improvement was in a lower division and I agree you could argue that we finished lower (7th in L1) than the season before (23rd in the Champ) so technically we didn't improve our position. But we went from a horrible "gettingspankedwithPoortvliet&Wotteincharge" type 23rd to a exciting 7th, loadsa goals and a cup win. So I'm giving the old board 5 seasons and calling it 7 :-) OK, I'll go with that, and save my massive thumbs up until the current board have improved 5 seasons on the trot I was happy to acknowledge their achievements after 4 though (even 3 would be remarkable, were it to happen). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 27 July, 2016 Share Posted 27 July, 2016 Mark Ritson @MarkRitson_TM Palace assistant boss comments on Alex McCarthy to Southampton link: http://www.croydonadvertiser.co.uk/crystal-palace-assistant-boss-in-the-dark-over-alex-mccarthy-to-southampton-link/story-29558810-detail/story.html#9UdmXXFtbFO9vwoR.99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 27 July, 2016 Share Posted 27 July, 2016 Disagree, he was decent at Reading and has potential. Would be a good signing. You disagree that he is 4th choice at Palace behind Mandanda, Speroni and Hennessey, or that he would be 2nd choice at Saints, or that he isn't as good as the two Irish 'keepers (RoI and NI number 1's)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 27 July, 2016 Share Posted 27 July, 2016 You disagree that he is 4th choice at Palace behind Mandanda, Speroni and Hennessey, or that he would be 2nd choice at Saints, or that he isn't as good as the two Irish 'keepers (RoI and NI number 1's)? Is he 4th choice? Seems to be playing a fair bit of their pre-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slugger Posted 27 July, 2016 Share Posted 27 July, 2016 Is he 4th choice? Seems to be playing a fair bit of their pre-season. Henessey and Mandanda not back in training til next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 27 July, 2016 Share Posted 27 July, 2016 It's not all that well sourced and it's the Sun, but it is a transfer rumour: Saints linked with Tello again for $10 mil and Recio from Malaga for $5 mil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggytrousers Posted 27 July, 2016 Share Posted 27 July, 2016 You disagree that he is 4th choice at Palace behind Mandanda, Speroni and Hennessey, or that he would be 2nd choice at Saints, or that he isn't as good as the two Irish 'keepers (RoI and NI number 1's)? Played 7 games for Palace last season which isn't huge but wouldn't make him fourth choice. Got a Palace fan at work and he really rated McCarthy and thought he was best of the bunch for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Fred Posted 27 July, 2016 Share Posted 27 July, 2016 A quite delicious €45m release clause in his contract. Good old Portuguese football. Wikipedia tells me he gets sent off a lot. And doesn't seem to have played much, for anyone. I have completed my research and have concluded that he is sh it. Lol don't you get the release causes yet? These numbers in Spain and Portugal don't really mean you have to pay that..look it up on wiki! Big fan of yours though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 28 July, 2016 Share Posted 28 July, 2016 It's not all that well sourced and it's the Sun, but it is a transfer rumour: Saints linked with Tello again for $10 mil and Recio from Malaga for $5 mil That's a really unflattering picture of Recio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 28 July, 2016 Share Posted 28 July, 2016 Lol don't you get the release causes yet? These numbers in Spain and Portugal don't really mean you have to pay that..look it up on wiki! Big fan of yours though! It's very sweet you replying to everything I post and even sweeter you feel the need to explain things I already know. Hint: Portuguese release clause fees have been discussed a million times on this forum, we don't need to go into the obvious technicalities every single time now. But yeah, there's definitely someone here who doesn't "get it". "Lol". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebastian firefly Posted 28 July, 2016 Share Posted 28 July, 2016 Are we still linked with Arturo Mina ? Had a bit of a stinker against Aletico National last nights libertadores final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaroid Saint Posted 28 July, 2016 Share Posted 28 July, 2016 The S*n recycle the Tello story for the billionth time today but add in something about Midfielder from Malaga, Recio: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/premierleague/1512888/southampton-line-up-15m-double-swoop-for-barcelona-striker-cristian-tello-and-malaga-midfielder-recio/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donatello Posted 28 July, 2016 Share Posted 28 July, 2016 OK, I'll go with that, and save my massive thumbs up until the current board have improved 5 seasons on the trot I was happy to acknowledge their achievements after 4 though (even 3 would be remarkable, were it to happen). Overlooking that improving in the Prem is a significantly greater challenge, naturally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 28 July, 2016 Share Posted 28 July, 2016 It's only the Sun but thank goodness to see us linked with a striker having happily allowed two of our main goal threats to bugger off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaroid Saint Posted 28 July, 2016 Share Posted 28 July, 2016 How did I miss this? Sorry for the double post... ...I feel like a S*n sports editor now, the shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donatello Posted 28 July, 2016 Share Posted 28 July, 2016 It's only the Sun but thank goodness to see us linked with a striker having happily allowed two of our main goal threats to bugger off. Why edit out your squinnying about Reed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slugger Posted 28 July, 2016 Share Posted 28 July, 2016 It's only the Sun but thank goodness to see us linked with a striker having happily allowed two of our main goal threats to bugger off. Which striker are we linked with? Tello is a winger and the other guy a DM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 28 July, 2016 Share Posted 28 July, 2016 God this summers transfer window is dull, I'm not even excited by the names rumoured which are normally wide of the mark anyway. Dull manager, dull signings, dull ambition, dull kit, dull season ahead and I will no doubt get the normal reaction from the dull 'Saints can do no wrong brigade' on here. Bring it on chaps, you have every right to brown nose your club and I have every right to say how I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 28 July, 2016 Share Posted 28 July, 2016 God this summers transfer window is dull, I'm not even excited by the names rumoured which are normally wide of the mark anyway. Dull manager, dull signings, dull ambition, dull kit, dull season ahead and I will no doubt get the normal reaction from the dull 'Saints can do no wrong brigade' on here. Bring it on chaps, you have every right to brown nose your club and I have every right to say how I see it. (Some) dull supporters. Seriously, if some so called supporters are so discontent with the club and the way they do things, why carry on supporting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattio Posted 28 July, 2016 Share Posted 28 July, 2016 God this summers transfer window is dull, I'm not even excited by the names rumoured which are normally wide of the mark anyway. Dull manager, dull signings, dull ambition, dull kit, dull season ahead and I will no doubt get the normal reaction from the dull 'Saints can do no wrong brigade' on here. Bring it on chaps, you have every right to brown nose your club and I have every right to say how I see it.Sorry but what's dull about a manager who's known for improving yound players, has won one of the top divisions in Europe and took a team to a Champions League final? What's dull about signing young players with massive potential including one from the Bundesliga champions? How can you say we have dull ambition when it's clear that our ambition is to constantly improve? What's dull about a red and white kit... were you expecting a glow in the dark number with flashing lights and fireworks? And finally what the hell is dull about our first season in the Europa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 28 July, 2016 Share Posted 28 July, 2016 God this summers transfer window is dull, I'm not even excited by the names rumoured which are normally wide of the mark anyway. Dull manager, dull signings, dull ambition, dull kit, dull season ahead and I will no doubt get the normal reaction from the dull 'Saints can do no wrong brigade' on here. Bring it on chaps, you have every right to brown nose your club and I have every right to say how I see it. Did you send back your season ticket over the car park charge? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted 28 July, 2016 Share Posted 28 July, 2016 God this summers transfer window is dull, I'm not even excited by the names rumoured which are normally wide of the mark anyway. Dull manager, dull signings, dull ambition, dull kit, dull season ahead and I will no doubt get the normal reaction from the dull 'Saints can do no wrong brigade' on here. Bring it on chaps, you have every right to brown nose your club and I have every right to say how I see it. Go support the hammers then I'll even buy you a tube of bubbles so you fit in, while you have a whale of a time in the olympic park with other fans supporting a massive world class club, chatting about all those transfer rumours and tasty expensive signings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 28 July, 2016 Share Posted 28 July, 2016 (edited) God this summers transfer window is dull, I'm not even excited by the names rumoured which are normally wide of the mark anyway. Dull manager, dull signings, dull ambition, dull kit, dull season ahead and I will no doubt get the normal reaction from the dull 'Saints can do no wrong brigade' on here. Bring it on chaps, you have every right to brown nose your club and I have every right to say how I see it. You're entitled to your opinion but bloody hell if I felt like that I'd just give up on football and do something else with my weekends. Edited 28 July, 2016 by doddisalegend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 28 July, 2016 Share Posted 28 July, 2016 Our ambition is obviously to go back to buying kids and then selling them for huge profits, thats fine if your sole ambition is to make money but it is not going to improve our league aspirations and is more likely to be detrimental, and is one of the reasons why our one of our best managers for decades probably moved on. But thanks for the replies chaps, the content was expected and you did'nt fail to disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 28 July, 2016 Share Posted 28 July, 2016 Our ambition is obviously to go back to buying kids and then selling them for huge profits, thats fine if your sole ambition is to make money but it is not going to improve our league aspirations and is more likely to be detrimental, and is one of the reasons why our one of our best managers for decades probably moved on. But thanks for the replies chaps, the content was expected and you did'nt fail to disappointment. Nothing to do with ambition, it's reality...players want to move to bigger clubs. You either buy into the model or you are going to be disappointed and as another poster said, may as well find something else to do. This isn't Football Manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 28 July, 2016 Share Posted 28 July, 2016 Our ambition is obviously to go back to buying kids and then selling them for huge profits, thats fine if your sole ambition is to make money but it is not going to improve our league aspirations and is more likely to be detrimental, and is one of the reasons why our one of our best managers for decades probably moved on. But thanks for the replies chaps, the content was expected and you did'nt fail to disappointment.We've been doing that and improving so moot point. Also lots of our experienced decent players have signed contracts keeping them here for years to come so they see something good within the club. Maybe they should listen to you as you're better positioned than them and know best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 28 July, 2016 Share Posted 28 July, 2016 God this summers transfer window is dull, I'm not even excited by the names rumoured which are normally wide of the mark anyway. Dull manager, dull signings, dull ambition, dull kit, dull season ahead and I will no doubt get the normal reaction from the dull 'Saints can do no wrong brigade' on here. Bring it on chaps, you have every right to brown nose your club and I have every right to say how I see it. Yep all about opinions but i suggest that you go away and have a good cry....might make you feel better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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