Lord Duckhunter Posted 24 July, 2017 Share Posted 24 July, 2017 Surely a new manager would want to look at the squad in depth before deciding where we need to spend some money. Some of you lot are worse than my old lady, spend, spend, spend, for the sake of it. Show a bit of patience ffs. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 24 July, 2017 Share Posted 24 July, 2017 Surely a new manager would want to look at the squad in depth before deciding where we need to spend some money. Some of you lot are worse than my old lady, spend, spend, spend, for the sake of it. Show a bit of patience ffs. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk He'd know before signing Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 24 July, 2017 Share Posted 24 July, 2017 Get Dembele in for £20m. Continue keeping it tight and risk getting left behind by more and more clubs. West Ham have got Hernandez now.. Hernandez was probably on a completely over the top wage to begin with, let alone what he must have asked for to rock up at West Ham. Im not saying that their transfer policy is poor, they have bought in the areas they are weak, just seems a bit pay top wages for some average players. Dembele is a talent, but he isnt going to want to pitch up at a side not in a European competition unless its at a premium. All that being said, striker is the last position we need to strengthen, so can we stop talking about Defoe, Dembele, bony, vardy, koller, bierhoff or any other striker thats ever kicked a ball until we plug the obvious gaps at CM(DM) and AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett24 Posted 24 July, 2017 Share Posted 24 July, 2017 I thought we knew our targets so far in advance that we could have them all integrated before the start of the season. Frustrating that every season we seem to have the need to rip up all that work and have to start over again. Either players forcing a move, managers leaving or being sacked. Cannot get excited about the premier league anymore, it's not a level playing field. Cannot compete with the Top 6 and you can add Everton also. The only way we could compete if there is a massive financial crisis, premier league tv money disappears almost over night then we would be in a great position. Hope Spurs win the league this year, they are the only team which live within their means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobes8 Posted 24 July, 2017 Share Posted 24 July, 2017 The last few pre seasons and been a disaster in terms of preparation for the upcoming season. Waiting till the end of the window to save a few quid will catch up with us sooner rather than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cartman Posted 24 July, 2017 Share Posted 24 July, 2017 I thought we knew our targets so far in advance that we could have them all integrated before the start of the season. Frustrating that every season we seem to have the need to rip up all that work and have to start over again. Either players forcing a move, managers leaving or being sacked. Cannot get excited about the premier league anymore, it's not a level playing field. Cannot compete with the Top 6 and you can add Everton also. The only way we could compete if there is a massive financial crisis, premier league tv money disappears almost over night then we would be in a great position. Hope Spurs win the league this year, they are the only team which live within their means. :lol: We know our targets in advance so that we don't turn into West Ham scrambling for anything that moves. And we generally buy late because the players we target will often be waiting to see if any clubs higher up the food chain come in for them. Agree on football not being a level playing field, it's less a competitive sport and more and more a circus freakshow, but then you ruin it by blaming the tv money which is actually the only thing that is keeping this league even remotely competitive by spreading a load of money more or less evenly which by law of diminishing returns disproportionately benefits clubs like us. It's the big clubs' huge commercial sponsorship deals that ruin everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 24 July, 2017 Share Posted 24 July, 2017 I thought we knew our targets so far in advance that we could have them all integrated before the start of the season. Frustrating that every season we seem to have the need to rip up all that work and have to start over again. Either players forcing a move, managers leaving or being sacked. Cannot get excited about the premier league anymore, it's not a level playing field. Cannot compete with the Top 6 and you can add Everton also. The only way we could compete if there is a massive financial crisis, premier league tv money disappears almost over night then we would be in a great position. Hope Spurs win the league this year, they are the only team which live within their means. I agree that Spurs are a well-run side when compared to the other Top Sixers but steady on...I'd rather set fire to my toenails than watch Spurs win the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 24 July, 2017 Share Posted 24 July, 2017 We're surely gonna get a couple in within next week or 2 then 1 or 2 more late on in the window as always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 24 July, 2017 Share Posted 24 July, 2017 Surely a new manager would want to look at the squad in depth before deciding where we need to spend some money. Some of you lot are worse than my old lady, spend, spend, spend, for the sake of it. Show a bit of patience ffs. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I suppose watching videos of saints last season is too out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 24 July, 2017 Share Posted 24 July, 2017 Not usually one to **** the bed, but our lack of activity is a bit worrying this season. Bednarek signing stuck me as odd from the outset given our current options in this area are what I would consider good backup. Additional back up is not what we need, we need players to improve the 1st 11. The spine is a worry and the VVD situation is a mess. Even if a miricle happens and he stays, doubtful he will be fit for the start of the season. Without sales we need a quality CB, CM, AM at minimum. CB: Still waiting for Fonte's replacement Les..... CM: Not convinced by the regressing Steven Davis as a starter anymore alongside Romeu, who should be captain in my eyes. Need someone dynamic with pace and strength. AM: People bang on about Sigurdsson in that AM role but that's because he is exactly what we lack. Even the best teams are being quite ruthless in this window with in's & out's and I worry we will regress further if we stand as still as we currently are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pass the Dutchie Posted 24 July, 2017 Share Posted 24 July, 2017 Martins Indi still hasn't signed for Stoke or Crystal Palace, has he? I'd like him here, a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 24 July, 2017 Share Posted 24 July, 2017 Sign the new VVD the new Wanyma and the new Steven Davis and I think that would be job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 24 July, 2017 Share Posted 24 July, 2017 Holy mother of god.....listening to some of the posters on here you'd think we've been flirting with relegation these last 4 years. Comments such as 'last few pre-seasons a disaster in terms of preparation' etc. are beyond ludicrous. I'm sure we'll sign another 1 or 2 players before the end of the window. Do we need wholesale changes - no. Do we need extra in terms of quality - yes. Last season the team under performed badly in the main - we'll see this year if it was the manager or players at fault. So many posters on here have spent way too long playing Football Manager I reckon - hopefully we will continue to punch above our weight but not sure how anyone is expecting us to keep up with the likes of City, etc with the totally obscene amounts of money floating around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 25 July, 2017 Share Posted 25 July, 2017 Holy mother of god.....listening to some of the posters on here you'd think we've been flirting with relegation these last 4 years. Comments such as 'last few pre-seasons a disaster in terms of preparation' etc. are beyond ludicrous. I'm sure we'll sign another 1 or 2 players before the end of the window. Do we need wholesale changes - no. Do we need extra in terms of quality - yes. Last season the team under performed badly in the main - we'll see this year if it was the manager or players at fault. So many posters on here have spent way too long playing Football Manager I reckon - hopefully we will continue to punch above our weight but not sure how anyone is expecting us to keep up with the likes of City, etc with the totally obscene amounts of money floating around. One of the things that was clear last season in addition to Puel's shortcomings was the lack of quality in the squad - especially in midfield (both defensive and attacking), centre-back and dare I say it, GK. If that's not addressed soon I think it will become obvious that Puel wasn't the only problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 25 July, 2017 Share Posted 25 July, 2017 Our lack of activity is worrying tbf and whilst we sit around marking time, other teams around us are spending a lot of money on some fairly decent players. We had glaring weaknesses from last season that need addressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 25 July, 2017 Share Posted 25 July, 2017 Our lack of activity is worrying tbf and whilst we sit around marking time, other teams around us are spending a lot of money on some fairly decent players. We had glaring weaknesses from last season that need addressing. What were they? They've just given Forster a new contract so they won't be replacing him clearly. Assuming we don't sell VVD or Bertrand we look pretty well set at the back with Stephens emerging as a real talent and Yoshida improving last year as well. Gabbi, Austin, Gallagher and Long is a good selection of strikers. The club will obviously be expecting a lot more from Boufal and Hojbjerg this season, and they should expect more with the talent they showed at times last season, as well as the fees spent on them. We could sell Clasie and replace him (I think I would personally) and maybe one more attacking player although that depends on where MP wants to play Boufal and Gabbiadini. There really isn't much to do, we struggled last season with a poor manager and we have no Europa league either this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 25 July, 2017 Share Posted 25 July, 2017 I thought we knew our targets so far in advance that we could have them all integrated before the start of the season. Frustrating that every season we seem to have the need to rip up all that work and have to start over again. Either players forcing a move, managers leaving or being sacked. Cannot get excited about the premier league anymore, it's not a level playing field. Cannot compete with the Top 6 and you can add Everton also. The only way we could compete if there is a massive financial crisis, premier league tv money disappears almost over night then we would be in a great position. Hope Spurs win the league this year, they are the only team which live within their means. Wash your mouth out son! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 25 July, 2017 Share Posted 25 July, 2017 I reckon two players incoming a new Def mid / central mid I want to see a Tank with the ability to pass. Also a good cen back possible prem experience? And a winger on loan someone like that Roberts Job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 25 July, 2017 Share Posted 25 July, 2017 Shaping up to be our most ineffectual summer and biggest loss of position in the pecking order / food chain of English football since Markus bought the club. Really saddened by the reversal of fortunes. But WTF, we're a well-run club, arent we ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 25 July, 2017 Share Posted 25 July, 2017 Wash your mouth out son! Have to agree with him, Spurs are basically the top 6 version of us, investing in youth, using their academy and spending within their means. It would be good for the Premier League IMO if the likes of Utd, City and Chelsea failed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Johnson Posted 25 July, 2017 Share Posted 25 July, 2017 Hope Spurs win the league this year, they are the only team which live within their means. Live with in their means, like us you mean? Spurs havent actually signed anyone yet either! I think its just this window, rafa, conte, klopp, mourhino all publically talked about how mental it is and how hard it is to get players in. Id rather us sign 2 quality players on the last day of the window than sign players just for the sake of it early on. I agree with Les Reed, seems almost fashionable to get involved in the transfer window just for the sake of it, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 25 July, 2017 Share Posted 25 July, 2017 If we get in a decent DM and AM or RM depending on how we want to play then I'll be happy as long as we replace anyone who leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pass the Dutchie Posted 25 July, 2017 Share Posted 25 July, 2017 If the staff think we don't need anyone I think I'm fine with it - if nobody leaves. But it does sound like MP is hoping for some new players, so I hope they come in as soon as possible so they can join in for the preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 25 July, 2017 Share Posted 25 July, 2017 Will judge it come September 1st. Agree with others it seems slightly worrying though. There aren't even any decent rumours it seems. Still could do with a top CM alongside Romeu and arguably a no 10 and another wide man. Perhaps Pellegrino sees Clasie / JWP / Davis good enough in those positions? Bednarek does seem an odd one when we already had Stephens / Yoshida to be "backups". Just seems to be squad filler to me - another Gardos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highfield Saint Posted 25 July, 2017 Share Posted 25 July, 2017 Will judge it come September 1st. Agree with others it seems slightly worrying though. There aren't even any decent rumours it seems. Still could do with a top CM alongside Romeu and arguably a no 10 and another wide man. Perhaps Pellegrino sees Clasie / JWP / Davis good enough in those positions? Bednarek does seem an odd one when we already had Stephens / Yoshida to be "backups". Just seems to be squad filler to me - another Gardos. Can only judge the window after it has closed and some way to go yet. We buy for the second season performance by finding players with potential and developing that potential. Mane, waynama and so on. Hope that is true for Boufal and Holberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 25 July, 2017 Share Posted 25 July, 2017 Napoli midfielder Allan... https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/4091926/newcastle-allan-southampton-west-brom-napoli/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 25 July, 2017 Share Posted 25 July, 2017 Will judge it come September 1st. Agree with others it seems slightly worrying though. There aren't even any decent rumours it seems. Still could do with a top CM alongside Romeu and arguably a no 10 and another wide man. Perhaps Pellegrino sees Clasie / JWP / Davis good enough in those positions? Bednarek does seem an odd one when we already had Stephens / Yoshida to be "backups". Just seems to be squad filler to me - another Gardos. I think Stuart Armstrong will happen - he's been consistently linked over a period of time and we always seem to let Celtic sort out their CL qualification before doing business. Might see some movement on that one at back end of next week. Then I'd still like to see two more in - a DCM and a CB - assuming no key players leave. We still have plenty of time, but as you say very quiet on the rumour front. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 25 July, 2017 Share Posted 25 July, 2017 Napoli midfielder Allan... https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/4091926/newcastle-allan-southampton-west-brom-napoli/ Allan who? Does he have a first name ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 25 July, 2017 Share Posted 25 July, 2017 Allan who? Does he have a first name ? He's Brazilian. Allan Marques Loureiro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 25 July, 2017 Share Posted 25 July, 2017 Can we just sign someone FFS........ and then we can get on with saying how underwhelmed we are about him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 25 July, 2017 Share Posted 25 July, 2017 Zouhair Feddal signs on at Betis Seville. Wasn't he mentioned here somewhere or other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 25 July, 2017 Share Posted 25 July, 2017 I think we'll see some movement in and out of the squad before the transfer window closes - whether Van Dijjk, Cedric or Bertrand go or not. But I think it will be more a case of one in and one out rather than real additions - and maybe the odd trimming of the squad as well. I fully expect Gardos to go out on loan for his final season - either back to Roumania or the lower end of the Championship - and it looks to me like Bednarek was bought as his replacement. There are rumours that Reading want Long - and I wouldn't be too sad or surprised to see him go either (as long as he takes that bl**dy song with him) and I think we will look to replace him with someone like Karamoh or Roberts. I also wouldn't be surprised to see Tadic go to Inter to replace Perisic if he gets his move to Man Utd - and I have a feeling Boufal was bought as his replacement last summer. Clasie is another one I expect to move on - Lazio are supposedly interested. Maybe we will add the ACM we need having shown interest in Armstrong at Celtic - but I think he will just replace someone in the squad even if its not a direct replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pass the Dutchie Posted 25 July, 2017 Share Posted 25 July, 2017 Mbappé to Real Madrid for €180M. Another one that slips away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 25 July, 2017 Share Posted 25 July, 2017 This is the latest news on Armstrong https://ninetyminutesonline.com/brendan-rodgers-tells-celtic-star-leave-next-summer/ As he is out of contract next year, he shouldn't be too expensive. And you'd like to think we're more attractive for a player than West Brom or Brighton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 25 July, 2017 Share Posted 25 July, 2017 Mbappé to Real Madrid for €180M. Another one that slips away. Unconfirmed though despite what Marca may be saying. Monaco don't seem to have heard about the deal being finalised, well not yet anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wimborne_saint Posted 25 July, 2017 Share Posted 25 July, 2017 Us and 7 other Premier League clubs have expressed an interest in signing Gabigol from Inter - http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2723437-premier-league-clubs-willing-to-rescue-gabigol-from-inter-milan?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-UK Had a very poor season but would definitely take him here for sure.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfp1 Posted 25 July, 2017 Share Posted 25 July, 2017 Gabbi and Gabigol up front would be nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint 76er Posted 25 July, 2017 Share Posted 25 July, 2017 Gabbi and Gabigol up front would be nice Not for Dave Merrington it wouldn't ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 25 July, 2017 Share Posted 25 July, 2017 Mbappé to Real Madrid for €180M. Another one that slips away. is that just the transfer fee or the wage packet as well...blimey... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 25 July, 2017 Share Posted 25 July, 2017 Would be great to see Stephens establish himself as a first teamer, I mean is he any worse than Gibson or Maguire? I don't think so and one of those has gone for £20 million and they are talking about the same amount for Gibson. We have some quality young players at the club, who knows what they can achieve given the chance? Spurs seem pretty content not to make massive transfers this summer and seem to be looking to their young players (probably stung by the £30 odd million they paid for Sissoko) We finished 8th last year, spending most of the season with Yoshida and Stephens at the back, who were nothing but very solid, it was actually our goalscoring that mainly let us down. He's not as good as Maguire. Cracking player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 25 July, 2017 Share Posted 25 July, 2017 If they are prepared to accept sensible wages there could be some rich pickings here: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/chinese-super-league-crisis-13-10865718 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 25 July, 2017 Share Posted 25 July, 2017 If they are prepared to accept sensible wages there could be some rich pickings here: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/chinese-super-league-crisis-13-10865718 And that's why there should have been serious governance when they were spending stupid money and wages on the likes of Tevez, Hulk etc.. It was never going to last. Novelty seems to have worn off now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 25 July, 2017 Share Posted 25 July, 2017 If they are prepared to accept sensible wages there could be some rich pickings here: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/chinese-super-league-crisis-13-10865718 Grazianno....Would you want....do we need....would he come back....???!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 25 July, 2017 Share Posted 25 July, 2017 Grazianno....Would you want....do we need....would he come back....???!!! Is his dodgy knee fixed then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 25 July, 2017 Share Posted 25 July, 2017 Grazianno....Would you want....do we need....would he come back....???!!! No, no, maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 25 July, 2017 Share Posted 25 July, 2017 If they are prepared to accept sensible wages there could be some rich pickings here: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/chinese-super-league-crisis-13-10865718 And that in a nutshell is why the Chinese shouldn't be let anywhere near our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Johnson Posted 25 July, 2017 Share Posted 25 July, 2017 Saints showing up on SSN transfer Whispers, patrick roberts from man city at "3.9" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 25 July, 2017 Share Posted 25 July, 2017 Saints showing up on SSN transfer Whispers, patrick roberts from man city at "3.9"My overall impression of their whispers is total b0ll0cks. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 25 July, 2017 Share Posted 25 July, 2017 Saints showing up on SSN transfer Whispers, patrick roberts from man city at "3.9" Bit short for a footballer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 25 July, 2017 Share Posted 25 July, 2017 Bit short for a footballer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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