Jump to content

Saints Transfers Thread - Deadline Day

Saint Charlie

By Saint Charlie
in The Saints

 Share

Recommended Posts

charliemiller

charliemiller

Posted
Posted

I really dont understand you guys sometimes ......how many of you watched the Brentford game in full ? Firstly its a pre season the result to an extent is irrelevant.

 

Jack Stephens for me was the stand out player on the pitch , his performance was VVD like calm and assured , he also distributed the ball faultlessly for the half he was on .

 

He is now and will be much better than Yoshida by miles , and dont forget the club rate Alfie Jones potential higher than Jacks .

 

Sell VVD dont care anymore ........buy a DM a good one to sit alongside OR (who was superb yesterday when he was on ) and we are sorted .

 

Jack Stephens will the first pick CB this season alongside who dunno

tajjuk

tajjuk

Posted
Posted

Would be great to see Stephens establish himself as a first teamer, I mean is he any worse than Gibson or Maguire? I don't think so and one of those has gone for £20 million and they are talking about the same amount for Gibson.

 

We have some quality young players at the club, who knows what they can achieve given the chance? Spurs seem pretty content not to make massive transfers this summer and seem to be looking to their young players (probably stung by the £30 odd million they paid for Sissoko)

 

We finished 8th last year, spending most of the season with Yoshida and Stephens at the back, who were nothing but very solid, it was actually our goalscoring that mainly let us down.

Evil Monkey

Evil Monkey

Posted
Posted

Dembele to Marseille for £20m is crazy. 32 goals last season (Ok, it's the SPL but still). I'd be staggered if mid table Prem clubs didn't fancy him at that price. £20m plus Shane Long?

Window Cleaner

Window Cleaner

Posted
Posted
A new keeper is a must if McCarthy is injured again. We can't go into the new season with FF having no genuine competition for his place.

 

 

So we need 5 or 6 keepers to make sure that one is good enough is that it ? We have FF, Taylor, McCarthy, Gazza and no doubt some Unders keepers. If none of them is good ernough we need to ship them all out and start over don't we. Anyway FF is number 1 and will no doubt remain so, the rest are just a drag on the finances.

Mr Saints

Mr Saints

Posted
Posted
So we need 5 or 6 keepers to make sure that one is good enough is that it ? We have FF, Taylor, McCarthy, Gazza and no doubt some Unders keepers. If none of them is good ernough we need to ship them all out and start over don't we. Anyway FF is number 1 and will no doubt remain so, the rest are just a drag on the finances.

 

All depends if McCarthy's injury is long term. If it is another long term one, then we absolutely need another. Gazza isn't up to it and Taylor hasn't played a game for about 15 years.

Window Cleaner

Window Cleaner

Posted
Posted
All depends if McCarthy's injury is long term. If it is another long term one, then we absolutely need another. Gazza isn't up to it and Taylor hasn't played a game for about 15 years.

 

So why exactly are they still here then, you have to keep repeating this question until you find an answer. Keeping dead wood is so Saints that it's not true.

SKD

SKD

Posted
Posted

If our back 4 looks anything like it did Saturday come the start of the season, we are in big trouble IMO.

 

Still yet to see anything of this polish lad to suggest he's PL quality (given i've only seen him in 3 games and I'm willing to give him time to adapt but only as cover for the moment).

Yoshida stepped up when needed last year was fantastic but still has a mistake in him. I would not be confident of having him as first choice CB.

Stephens is a young lad, he will get better with game time and as it currently stands deserves a place in the starting 11. However, he is only a young lad and I don't think he's good enough (yet) to lead the line for a club that wants to push top 7.

 

If VVD goes we need 2 CB's IMO, if he doesn't then we should get his replacement in this summer, ready to lead the line once VVD is sold next year.

 

Add to that we will need a LB should Bertrand leave and I still feel we are weak at DCM and out wide (a genuine Mane type player). A number 10 would be nice and I think we've needed one for years, but I think we could get by without one for this season.

 

It's worrying that we are a couple of weeks away from the start of the season and our squad is average, at best. A lot of work needed if you ask me.

Faz

Faz

Posted
Posted
If our back 4 looks anything like it did Saturday come the start of the season, we are in big trouble IMO.

 

Still yet to see anything of this polish lad to suggest he's PL quality (given i've only seen him in 3 games and I'm willing to give him time to adapt but only as cover for the moment).

Yoshida stepped up when needed last year was fantastic but still has a mistake in him. I would not be confident of having him as first choice CB.

Stephens is a young lad, he will get better with game time and as it currently stands deserves a place in the starting 11. However, he is only a young lad and I don't think he's good enough (yet) to lead the line for a club that wants to push top 7.

 

If VVD goes we need 2 CB's IMO, if he doesn't then we should get his replacement in this summer, ready to lead the line once VVD is sold next year.

 

Add to that we will need a LB should Bertrand leave and I still feel we are weak at DCM and out wide (a genuine Mane type player). A number 10 would be nice and I think we've needed one for years, but I think we could get by without one for this season.

 

It's worrying that we are a couple of weeks away from the start of the season and our squad is average, at best. A lot of work needed if you ask me.

 

Behave. Our back 4 will clearly be Cedric, Stephens, VVD, Bertrand. All things being equal. Happy to see Step[hens continue to build on his progress last season.

ALWAYS_SFC

ALWAYS_SFC

Posted
Posted
If our back 4 looks anything like it did Saturday come the start of the season, we are in big trouble IMO.

 

Still yet to see anything of this polish lad to suggest he's PL quality (given i've only seen him in 3 games and I'm willing to give him time to adapt but only as cover for the moment).

Yoshida stepped up when needed last year was fantastic but still has a mistake in him. I would not be confident of having him as first choice CB.

Stephens is a young lad, he will get better with game time and as it currently stands deserves a place in the starting 11. However, he is only a young lad and I don't think he's good enough (yet) to lead the line for a club that wants to push top 7.

 

If VVD goes we need 2 CB's IMO, if he doesn't then we should get his replacement in this summer, ready to lead the line once VVD is sold next year.

 

Add to that we will need a LB should Bertrand leave and I still feel we are weak at DCM and out wide (a genuine Mane type player). A number 10 would be nice and I think we've needed one for years, but I think we could get by without one for this season.

 

It's worrying that we are a couple of weeks away from the start of the season and our squad is average, at best. A lot of work needed if you ask me.

 

You said he was off, has that changed now that CP has gone or does he still "want" out?

SKD

SKD

Posted
Posted
You said he was off, has that changed now that CP has gone or does he still "want" out?

 

I've not been made aware of any change (other than that generally the squad are happier with MP), but obviously he can only go if an offer comes in for him... As of yet one hasn't. That being said, I don't think he's the sort of person to go on strike, like VVD and he will only leave for a CL club.

 

I'd say there is less chance of him leaving now Puel as gone (similar to a few others....), but I'm still expecting him to leave, lets hope I'm wrong. In my personal opinion, I still think he'll go to Chelsea.

SKD

SKD

Posted
Posted
Behave. Our back 4 will clearly be Cedric, Stephens, VVD, Bertrand. All things being equal. Happy to see Step[hens continue to build on his progress last season.

 

It's not "clearly" though, is it.

 

There is still a large amount of speculation that both VVD and Bertrand will leave and I'd be amazed if Cedric is 100% match fit come the start of the season, given he's still on holiday.

ALWAYS_SFC

ALWAYS_SFC

Posted
Posted
It's not "clearly" though, is it.

 

There is still a large amount of speculation that both VVD and Bertrand will leave and I'd be amazed if Cedric is 100% match fit come the start of the season, given he's still on holiday.

 

Yes speculation is all it is.... and very little regarding Bertrand...

beatlesaint

beatlesaint

Posted
Posted
A new keeper is a must if McCarthy is injured again. We can't go into the new season with FF having no genuine competition for his place.

 

Sorry i missed this - hes not injured again is he ? WTF ?

Wimborne_saint

Wimborne_saint

Posted
Posted
Sorry i missed this - hes not injured again is he ? WTF ?

 

Not in the 25 man squad for the France trip and wasn't involved Saturday. Don't expect any word from the club though, they love to brush an injury under the carpet and not mention it anywhere!

Dusic

Dusic

Posted
Posted
Behave. Our back 4 will clearly be Cedric, Stephens, VVD, Bertrand. All things being equal. Happy to see Step[hens continue to build on his progress last season.
For the first couple of games it will almost certainly be:

 

Pied, Yoshida, Stephens, Bertrand (which is pretty meh)

 

Seen nothing from Pied to suggest he is much better than Martina. Woeful defensively so far.

benjii

benjii

Posted
Posted
If our back 4 looks anything like it did Saturday come the start of the season, we are in big trouble IMO.

 

Still yet to see anything of this polish lad to suggest he's PL quality (given i've only seen him in 3 games and I'm willing to give him time to adapt but only as cover for the moment).

Yoshida stepped up when needed last year was fantastic but still has a mistake in him. I would not be confident of having him as first choice CB.

Stephens is a young lad, he will get better with game time and as it currently stands deserves a place in the starting 11. However, he is only a young lad and I don't think he's good enough (yet) to lead the line for a club that wants to push top 7.

 

If VVD goes we need 2 CB's IMO, if he doesn't then we should get his replacement in this summer, ready to lead the line once VVD is sold next year.

 

Add to that we will need a LB should Bertrand leave and I still feel we are weak at DCM and out wide (a genuine Mane type player). A number 10 would be nice and I think we've needed one for years, but I think we could get by without one for this season.

 

It's worrying that we are a couple of weeks away from the start of the season and our squad is average, at best. A lot of work needed if you ask me.

 

Agreed.

 

As things stand, top half would be a good achievement.

Lord Duckhunter

Lord Duckhunter

Posted
Posted

 

Seen nothing from Pied to suggest he is much better than Martina. Woeful defensively so far.

 

 

Woeful? Don't be a plum. The blokes hardly played, but when he has he's looked better than Martina. You're just moaning for the sake of it.

 

 

 

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Window Cleaner

Window Cleaner

Posted
Posted
Woeful? Don't be a plum. The blokes hardly played, but when he has he's looked better than Martina. You're just moaning for the sake of it.

 

 

 

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

Don't be so sure, I've seen a lot of Jeremy Pied and I'd not rate him a great deal higher than Martina. He was a CP stopgap whim signing, if he'd been in any way desirable as a player Nice would have kept him.

Cartman

Cartman

Posted
Posted
Don't be so sure, I've seen a lot of Jeremy Pied and I'd not rate him a great deal higher than Martina. He was a CP stopgap whim signing, if he'd been in any way desirable as a player Nice would have kept him.

 

How? He was out of contract.

the saint in winchester

the saint in winchester

Posted
Posted

DAILY ECHO

  • Mauricio Pellegrino is eyeing potential new signings as he looks to add to his Saints squad this summer. The new St Mary's boss admits it has been difficult to fully assess the assets at his disposal with extended holidays due to international games meaning some players have not yet returned for pre-season.

John Boy Saint

John Boy Saint

Posted
Posted
Woeful? Don't be a plum. The blokes hardly played, but when he has he's looked better than Martina. You're just moaning for the sake of it.

 

 

 

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

Ditto

 

Came on as a sub first game (?), then had a bit of a spin out last game and that was it from recall........................ Yup nailed on steaming pile of French Rose fertiliser............ Bring back the Guillotine!!!

John Boy Saint

John Boy Saint

Posted
Posted
Not such a bad idea is it.. but managers seem to like to have their say.

Burley must still be topping the Saints managers table with the number he dragged in................. turned out to be the thin edge of a very nasty wedge.

beavis17

beavis17

Posted
Posted (edited)
£6m bid. Wow, really pushing the boat out

 

He's a promising young player that we can develop and increase the value of. It's what we do.

 

The reason the bid is for £6m is because he has a year left on his contract.

 

From what I've seen he is very much in the Mane mould so he could be worth five or six times that fee in a couple of years.

Edited by beavis17
OldNick

OldNick

Posted
Posted
He's a promising young player that we can develop and increase the value of. It's what we do.

 

The reason the bid is for £6m is because he has a year left on his contract.

 

From what I've seen he is very much in the Mane mould so he could be worth five or six times that fee in a couple of years.

tell how the increase in value actually helps you, a decrease in your S?T price, a share of the profits or just some reflected glory telling fans of Leicester etc that we brought those players through that now are winning things at other clubs?
Window Cleaner

Window Cleaner

Posted
Posted
£6m bid. Wow, really pushing the boat out

 

 

Going to be a messy affair that. He doesn't want to go to wherever Caen have agreed a price, his agent/family have agreed something with St Etienne and Leipzig are said to be involved somewhere along the line.

DT

DT

Posted
Posted

I'm just a bit nervous about the big gaps in our playing personnel for next season, that's all. And amazed that every season we leave it to the last minute rather than bedding in players into the team. I reckon we need a new keeper, CB, DM, and attacking midfielder. Basically a spine. Unless Mauricio really is a miracle worker

OldNick

OldNick

Posted
Posted
Lets bid more for a player who is probably worth 6m anyway then shall we? At least the fans will be happy
that's not what DT was saying, it was a fact that we seem to aim low. It is hard to keep watchingus dvelop players for other clubs to get the benefit.
VectisSaint

VectisSaint

Posted
Posted
Not yet returned after prolonged international duty, Confederations Cup.

Was expecting him to have been back today, given that he tweeted last week that his holiday was over. I guess though that as his last game in Russia was 2 July and JWP/Redmond's last game was 27 June end of this week is probably more likely. Its a real drag these delayed player returns after summer internationals, really messes up pre-season. In future it will apply to the Africans as well, though I guess thats better than the current January/February window.

tajjuk

tajjuk

Posted
Posted

 

SM Caen threaten clubs with sanctions for tapping up Yann Karamoh

SM Caen released an official statement last weekend condemning clubs for approaching teenage attacking prospect Yann Karamoh.

 

Fiorentina are understood to have made a bid for the player that is far inferior to the €10m that Caen are demanding, with Southampton and St Étienne.

 

Caen’s statement read as follows:

 

“The moves currently being made relating to our player are strictly illegal and sanctionable by FIFA regulations relating to the transfer of players (article 18)… We will take the necessary measures against anyone who goes against these regulations.”

 

Let's hope that is not us.

 

https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2017/sm-caen-threaten-clubs-with-sanctions-for-tapping-up-yann-karamoh/

gammon cheeks

gammon cheeks

Posted
Posted
I'm just a bit nervous about the big gaps in our playing personnel for next season, that's all. And amazed that every season we leave it to the last minute rather than bedding in players into the team. I reckon we need a new keeper, CB, DM, and attacking midfielder. Basically a spine. Unless Mauricio really is a miracle worker
I think thats how most fans would agree with you. We have a pretty **** poor squad in terms of quality. Probably get a ok team out but really the positions you mentioned are a must if we are to have a good season. CB , DM AND ATTACKING MIDFIELDER WE MUST GET
Wimborne_saint

Wimborne_saint

Posted
Posted
that's not what DT was saying, it was a fact that we seem to aim low. It is hard to keep watchingus dvelop players for other clubs to get the benefit.

 

I agree and I'm sick of it too, but that is the club's model and I don't see it changing any time soon.

Window Cleaner

Window Cleaner

Posted
Posted
Should we bid £30m instead? Buying clubs want to get the lowest possible price.

 

Well they only want 10 million euros by all accounts but the player is having his say. Throw in a new handbag for his mum and he's ours.

beavis17

beavis17

Posted
Posted
tell how the increase in value actually helps you, a decrease in your S?T price, a share of the profits or just some reflected glory telling fans of Leicester etc that we brought those players through that now are winning things at other clubs?

 

What would be your strategy then?

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing
×
×
  • Create New...