beavis17 Posted 19 July, 2017 Share Posted 19 July, 2017 I believe we have not taken a youngster on loan to develop since 2012. I doubt we are going to start now. Probably 1 of 3 things. 1. Could of offered it as part of the Bertrand offer but as an option to buy him. 2. Agent talk to generate interest from any club. 3. Sun make it up as they need to fill some bull**** space. It's in the Daily Mail too which may make it ever so slightly more believable. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4709030/Southampton-want-Manchester-City-s-Patrick-Roberts-loan.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Man Do Posted 19 July, 2017 Share Posted 19 July, 2017 Wasn't it Roberts who hammered our youth team on his own when at Notts Forest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 19 July, 2017 Share Posted 19 July, 2017 Wasn't it Roberts who hammered our youth team on his own when at Notts Forest? I think that was Patrick Bamford but might be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGalpin Posted 19 July, 2017 Share Posted 19 July, 2017 I think that was Patrick Bamford but might be wrong. Was Bamford, scored 4 in a 5-1 win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 19 July, 2017 Share Posted 19 July, 2017 It's in the Daily Mail too which may make it ever so slightly more believable. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4709030/Southampton-want-Manchester-City-s-Patrick-Roberts-loan.html They copy each other. Makes me laugh when they say they will see how he gets on in pre season training. The guy needs to play like a dog then if he wants out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 19 July, 2017 Share Posted 19 July, 2017 The l Lou my . L pp law my love l LP pp lolppo Lip post opI no longer in i longer polo Lu u be Lu. Lovely place Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk [emoji23][emoji23] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 19 July, 2017 Share Posted 19 July, 2017 http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/40652803 Another missed target...whats LR playing at FFS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 19 July, 2017 Share Posted 19 July, 2017 The l Lou my . L pp law my love l LP pp lolppo Lip post opI no longer in i longer polo Lu u be Lu. Lovely place Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Makes as much sense as most of the posts on here. ? Must learn to lock the keyboard before putting phone in pocket. Doh. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 19 July, 2017 Share Posted 19 July, 2017 oh my, however did we finish 8th last season then if we are missing 3 quality players. We could spend 60 or 70 million on the positions you say, we probably wouldn't finish any higher in the league though. We are what we are and only really serious money will change that. You know the answer to that yourself! We finished 8th only because there are 13 crap teams in the PL and we just about managed to be top of that list. You only need to compare our goals and points tallies with the year before to realise there is a great deal wrong with our set up that needs to be fixed. Stop deluding yourself or you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 19 July, 2017 Share Posted 19 July, 2017 http://sportwitness.co.uk/everton-southampton-watching-transfer-need-quick-theyre-ready-swoop/ Hoping we swoop in at the last minute for Karamoh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 19 July, 2017 Share Posted 19 July, 2017 So, as mentioned on the FF new contract thread, FF signing a new deal was predicted yesterday on Sotonions. The same poster also said yesterday that a defender was rumoured to be incoming. Today, he added that the rumoured incoming defender was from a Dutch club starting with "A". It might be all speculation, teasing and baseless rumours, but he is 50% right so far, so I thought that I'd throw it out here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 19 July, 2017 Share Posted 19 July, 2017 So, as mentioned on the FF new contract thread, FF signing a new deal was predicted yesterday on Sotonions. The same poster also said yesterday that a defender was rumoured to be incoming. Today, he added that the rumoured incoming defender was from a Dutch club starting with "A". It might be all speculation, teasing and baseless rumours, but he is 50% right so far, so I thought that I'd throw it out here... An ITK with a 50% record is better than some of the one's with 0% success rate Did the Ajax lad Jairo Riedewald sign for Palace in the end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Albert Posted 19 July, 2017 Share Posted 19 July, 2017 An ITK with a 50% record is better than some of the one's with 0% success rate Did the Ajax lad Jairo Riedewald sign for Palace in the end? The Guardian reported that it was a done deal yesterday, but I haven't seen a formal announcement by Palace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 19 July, 2017 Share Posted 19 July, 2017 So, as mentioned on the FF new contract thread, FF signing a new deal was predicted yesterday on Sotonions. The same poster also said yesterday that a defender was rumoured to be incoming. Today, he added that the rumoured incoming defender was from a Dutch club starting with "A". It might be all speculation, teasing and baseless rumours, but he is 50% right so far, so I thought that I'd throw it out here... Said poster is Dubai Phil. I wondered where he had got to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 19 July, 2017 Share Posted 19 July, 2017 Said poster is Dubai Phil. I wondered where he had got to. Dubai? Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 19 July, 2017 Share Posted 19 July, 2017 Dubai? More specifically on a golf course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 19 July, 2017 Share Posted 19 July, 2017 Dubai? Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Good bet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 19 July, 2017 Share Posted 19 July, 2017 More specifically on a golf course. Even better bet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 19 July, 2017 Share Posted 19 July, 2017 An ITK with a 50% record is better than some of the one's with 0% success rate Did the Ajax lad Jairo Riedewald sign for Palace in the end? Current rumour in Ajax land is that he hasn't passed his medical ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 19 July, 2017 Share Posted 19 July, 2017 So, as mentioned on the FF new contract thread, FF signing a new deal was predicted yesterday on Sotonions. The same poster also said yesterday that a defender was rumoured to be incoming. Today, he added that the rumoured incoming defender was from a Dutch club starting with "A". It might be all speculation, teasing and baseless rumours, but he is 50% right so far, so I thought that I'd throw it out here... Maybe Davinson Sanchez ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 19 July, 2017 Share Posted 19 July, 2017 Current rumour in Ajax land is that he hasn't passed his medical ! Sounds nailed on for us then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 19 July, 2017 Share Posted 19 July, 2017 Current rumour in Ajax land is that he hasn't passed his medical ! Not surprised. Dubai_Phil has had a bad knee for a while now and had a check up a few days ago, maybe an op or meds or physio needed. Not sure what he is doing in Ajax though!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 19 July, 2017 Share Posted 19 July, 2017 Talking of Ajax lets reflect who led the Eredivisie last season for the below attacking stats MOST ASSISTS HAKIM ZIYECH - 12 OPPORTUNITIES MOST OF OPPORTUNITIES CREATED HAKIM ZIYECH- 116 ATTEMPTS MOST GOAL ATTEMPTS HAKIM ZIYECH - 114 ATTEMPTS #ZIYECHWATCH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 19 July, 2017 Share Posted 19 July, 2017 Talking of Ajax lets reflect who led the Eredivisie last season for the below attacking stats MOST ASSISTS HAKIM ZIYECH - 12 OPPORTUNITIES MOST OF OPPORTUNITIES CREATED HAKIM ZIYECH- 116 ATTEMPTS MOST GOAL ATTEMPTS HAKIM ZIYECH - 114 ATTEMPTS #ZIYECHWATCH We aren't the kind of guys to say we told you so, but..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 19 July, 2017 Share Posted 19 July, 2017 We aren't the kind of guys to say we told you so, but..... Screw the black box they should just ask us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 19 July, 2017 Share Posted 19 July, 2017 Screw the black box they should just ask us I was just thinking how easy it must be to be head of recruitment at a club like Liverpool where you get paid a fortune to basically come up with "Van Dijk" & "Keita" as good options to sign at the end of a season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 19 July, 2017 Share Posted 19 July, 2017 Player who did well in Dutch league... continues to do well in Dutch league. Not sure what rattling off these stats proves as it is hardly like he moved to a top league and did this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 19 July, 2017 Share Posted 19 July, 2017 So, as mentioned on the FF new contract thread, FF signing a new deal was predicted yesterday on Sotonions. The same poster also said yesterday that a defender was rumoured to be incoming. Today, he added that the rumoured incoming defender was from a Dutch club starting with "A". It might be all speculation, teasing and baseless rumours, but he is 50% right so far, so I thought that I'd throw it out here... Getting someone like Sanchez in would be good succession planning for when VvD does leave - a bit like when we brought Romeu in when we knew Wanyama would be going the following summer. I'm guessing Bednarek will mostly play in the u23's next year so it will give us a season to bed both him and any long-term VvD replacement in. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 19 July, 2017 Share Posted 19 July, 2017 Luis Suarez says hi Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 19 July, 2017 Share Posted 19 July, 2017 As does Christian Eriksen Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 19 July, 2017 Share Posted 19 July, 2017 Krychowiak has been left out of PSG's pre season camp, he would be an amazing signing or Carvalho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintadam Posted 19 July, 2017 Share Posted 19 July, 2017 Krychowiak has been left out of PSG's pre season camp, he would be an amazing signing or Carvalho. I agree but he's way out of our league. Same goes for Sigurdsson, same with Wilshere, same with all hyped/well known players out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 19 July, 2017 Share Posted 19 July, 2017 I agree but he's way out of our league. Same goes for Sigurdsson, same with Wilshere, same with all hyped/well known players out there. Wilshere who went to Bournemouth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 19 July, 2017 Share Posted 19 July, 2017 Wilshere who went to Bournemouth? Yeah, on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 19 July, 2017 Share Posted 19 July, 2017 How is he way out of our league? Surely he would jump at the chance at rekindling his career at a top 8 English premier league club. That's the type of calibre of player we should be looking at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 19 July, 2017 Share Posted 19 July, 2017 Are we actually linked with someone good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 20 July, 2017 Share Posted 20 July, 2017 Problem we have and a frustration of mine is despite the recent successes 8,7,6,8 we haven't really pushed ahead of teams like Palace and WHU in terms of appeal to players and managers it seems. In fact teams like AFCB have now closed the gap. Unless something changes we are destined for a decade of 8-17 place league finishes and the excitement of an occasional cup run..... #WeMarchOn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 20 July, 2017 Share Posted 20 July, 2017 We are being cautious / smart that is why. After all if we keep the spine of the team together for this season for us that is massive. It will send out a message that we will not just roll over and have our best players cherry picked. Who are we actually linked to? Ajax have some decent players intact plenty of young talent in that league.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggytrousers Posted 20 July, 2017 Share Posted 20 July, 2017 Problem we have and a frustration of mine is despite the recent successes 8,7,6,8 we haven't really pushed ahead of teams like Palace and WHU in terms of appeal to players and managers it seems. In fact teams like AFCB have now closed the gap. Unless something changes we are destined for a decade of 8-17 place league finishes and the excitement of an occasional cup run..... #WeMarchOn Our first season in the last 8 where we haven't improved our league position. I think we all need to participate in an act of mass urination of our collective mattresses to register our disgust at such a situation. That will show them we mean business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 20 July, 2017 Share Posted 20 July, 2017 Do you think the reason why we haven't signed anyone for the first team yet is that we aren't prepared to pay the prices currently being banded about and are holding off to try and get better value later in the window? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 20 July, 2017 Share Posted 20 July, 2017 Do you think the reason why we haven't signed anyone for the first team yet is that we aren't prepared to pay the prices currently being banded about and are holding off to try and get better value later in the window? That and the usual case of wanting the new manager to assess what he has already.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 20 July, 2017 Share Posted 20 July, 2017 Do you think the reason why we haven't signed anyone for the first team yet is that we aren't prepared to pay the prices currently being banded about and are holding off to try and get better value later in the window? Will the prices be better later in the window? if anything the closer to deadline day the higher the prices as clubs will be less inclined to sell with replacements being hard to get late in the window. Also the more crazy deals done will just convince other clubs to push up their asking prices to get a piece of the bonkers transfer fees pie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forester Posted 20 July, 2017 Share Posted 20 July, 2017 Will the prices be better later in the window? if anything the closer to deadline day the higher the prices as clubs will be less inclined to sell with replacements being hard to get late in the window. Also the more crazy deals done will just convince other clubs to push up their asking prices to get a piece of the bonkers transfer fees pie. It depends, if there is a player who a club are keen to move on then sometimes yes. However the more compelling argument is that if you were the new manager I would hope that you may want to actually work with and see your current squad play before you make knee jerk decisions on who you need. No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 20 July, 2017 Share Posted 20 July, 2017 It depends, if there is a player who a club are keen to move on then sometimes yes. However the more compelling argument is that if you were the new manager I would hope that you may want to actually work with and see your current squad play before you make knee jerk decisions on who you need. No? I'm not even sure that works now Liverpool demanding 30 million for Sakho a player they clearly don't want, or man city seemingly unable to get rid of Joe Hart except as a loan seems to be the new way forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 20 July, 2017 Share Posted 20 July, 2017 I'm not even sure that works now Liverpool demanding 30 million for Sakho a player they clearly don't want, or man city seemingly unable to get rid of Joe Hart except as a loan seems to be the new way forward. Clubs like Everton will need to offload players because of a high wage bills. If clubs don't make offers for players then it could mean good loan options for us if they choose to pay half of the wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 20 July, 2017 Share Posted 20 July, 2017 (edited) Clubs like Everton will need to offload players because of a high wage bills. If clubs don't make offers for players then it could mean good loan options for us if they choose to pay half of the wages. Don't think we're really a club that takes a great interest in having players on loan from other prem clubs. Was Bertrand the last one ? Seems that Everton have already offloaded a few players, I think that so far they've got more in than they've paid out and there's still Barkley to go. Perhaps not on salaries though, then again they have a new sponsor, no doubt a fix up by their owner, who's giving them far more than Chang. Edited 20 July, 2017 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 20 July, 2017 Share Posted 20 July, 2017 It depends, if there is a player who a club are keen to move on then sometimes yes. However the more compelling argument is that if you were the new manager I would hope that you may want to actually work with and see your current squad play before you make knee jerk decisions on who you need. No? You would also like to think that Black, Watson and Read with have also feed back to the new boss where they feel we need to buy though? We don't need many, just 3 or 4 i say. CB / DCM / ACM / CF (poss) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 20 July, 2017 Share Posted 20 July, 2017 You would also like to think that Black, Watson and Read with have also feed back to the new boss where they feel we need to buy though? We don't need many, just 3 or 4 i say. CB / DCM / ACM / CF (poss) We could get away with just one really quality central midfielder to play alongside Romeu. Shame in hindsight we didnt opt for Gueye when we signed Clasie - he would be ideal. Need someone in that area who is different from what we have (i.e can run) and who would go straight into our best XI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 20 July, 2017 Share Posted 20 July, 2017 You would also like to think that Black, Watson and Read with have also feed back to the new boss where they feel we need to buy though? We don't need many, just 3 or 4 i say. CB / DCM / ACM / CF (poss) If Virgil stays, we don't need CB. DCM, yes for the right player at the right price, but not critical. ACM - we're overloaded already, so not unless someone leaves. We have Gabbiadini, Long, Austin and Gallagher, so don't expect CF. I doubt we'll get more than one or two in, and very possibly none. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertyell Posted 20 July, 2017 Share Posted 20 July, 2017 Will the prices be better later in the window? if anything the closer to deadline day the higher the prices as clubs will be less inclined to sell with replacements being hard to get late in the window. Also the more crazy deals done will just convince other clubs to push up their asking prices to get a piece of the bonkers transfer fees pie. Not that we're going to be in for him, but Barkley should be a much better deal in the final days of the transfer window. Everton are holding out for a huge fee for a player with one year left on his contract who has turned down all offers to extend it. If he's still there when the window closes, they'll have held out for £50m only to lose him for free (in 12 months). Given Spurs are supposedly interested in him, and Daniel Levy is a notorious tightwad, I'd expect that transfer to happen maybe as late as deadline day, to squeeze the price as low as it'll go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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