SuperSAINT Posted 25 May, 2016 Posted 25 May, 2016 Anyone watch the England U21's tonight? Redmond scored again.
angelman Posted 25 May, 2016 Posted 25 May, 2016 One's about transfer fee one is about wages. Since Bosman it is about the package which includes transfer fee AND wages
simo Posted 25 May, 2016 Posted 25 May, 2016 On a separate note... It's hard sometimes isn't it!? I have practically raised my nephew (and now that I'm getting old, my daughter) be a Saints fan despite all the pressure to conform with school friends by following trophy winners etc... Now Zlatan is (supposedly) heading to UTD, Gooners sign Xhaka and glamour transfers like this will continue for the big clubs over the summer.... you can understand why kids in the South are attracted to the 'big clubs'! You had heard of Xhaka before last week then?
Shroppie Posted 26 May, 2016 Posted 26 May, 2016 On a separate note... It's hard sometimes isn't it!? I have practically raised my nephew (and now that I'm getting old, my daughter) be a Saints fan despite all the pressure to conform with school friends by following trophy winners etc... Now Zlatan is (supposedly) heading to UTD, Gooners sign Xhaka and glamour transfers like this will continue for the big clubs over the summer.... you can understand why kids in the South are attracted to the 'big clubs'! Don't get this at all. Loads of evidence (Man U, Man C, Chelsea fail, Saints, Leicester success) last season that glamour signings aren't necessarily the way to success. The right blend in a team, the right attitude and hunger to improve themselves as players, not just improve bank balances, are more important. Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk
rooney Posted 26 May, 2016 Posted 26 May, 2016 Isn't Ron in Portugal... http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/673431/Newcastle-transfer-news-Andros-Townsend-spotted-plane-Premier-League-gossip-rumours 2+2 = 5 probably, but maybe not as obvious as it would appear... Ron's villa is very near LVGal's at Vale do Lobo. Funnily enough ,Townsend went to the resort to do extra training in pre-season last year.
SuperSAINT Posted 26 May, 2016 Posted 26 May, 2016 Southampton and Juventus could be involved in a swap deal this summer if a report in Gazzetta dello Sport is to be believed. The report suggests Saints are interested in signing striker Simone Zaza and they are ready to offer Italian striker Graziano Pelle to the Serie A champions as part of the deal.
Pilchards Posted 26 May, 2016 Posted 26 May, 2016 Southampton and Juventus could be involved in a swap deal this summer if a report in Gazzetta dello Sport is to be believed. The report suggests Saints are interested in signing striker Simone Zaza and they are ready to offer Italian striker Graziano Pelle to the Serie A champions as part of the deal. Expect Pelle's current barber to lose a customer out of this exchange too?
JackanorySFC Posted 26 May, 2016 Posted 26 May, 2016 Southampton and Juventus could be involved in a swap deal this summer if a report in Gazzetta dello Sport is to be believed. The report suggests Saints are interested in signing striker Simone Zaza and they are ready to offer Italian striker Graziano Pelle to the Serie A champions as part of the deal. Every summer this "player swap deal" bull**** comes up. Honestly how many can you name that actually happened? Negotiating a deal for 1 player has a tonne of complications, an extra player/ agent/ family makes it near on impossible. Always reads well and Agent's love feeding the info to the media (who you can't blame for printing/ reporting it). It will not happen though, player swap deals simply hardly ever happen.
Saint Martini Posted 26 May, 2016 Posted 26 May, 2016 Every summer this "player swap deal" bull**** comes up. Honestly how many can you name that actually happened? Negotiating a deal for 1 player has a tonne of complications, an extra player/ agent/ family makes it near on impossible. Always reads well and Agent's love feeding the info to the media (who you can't blame for printing/ reporting it). It will not happen though, player swap deals simply hardly ever happen. Sigurdsson for Vorm and Ben Davies. Kevin Davies for Egil Østenstad Wayne Bridge for Graeme Le Saux
Saint Martini Posted 26 May, 2016 Posted 26 May, 2016 Any others in those 15/16 years?! Probably, came up with those from the top of my head. I'm sure other posters can come up with a fee others. It happens, that's all I'm saying.
saintwbu Posted 26 May, 2016 Posted 26 May, 2016 Any others in those 15/16 years?! Eto'o and Zlatan. But yes it does seem like the go-to story for journalists over the summer and is very rare nowadays.
raynesparksaint Posted 26 May, 2016 Posted 26 May, 2016 Sigurdsson for Vorm and Ben Davies. Kevin Davies for Egil Østenstad Wayne Bridge for Graeme Le Saux Hmm...I remember these being more like a significant fee plus a makeweight
SuperSAINT Posted 26 May, 2016 Posted 26 May, 2016 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3611707/Southampton-QPR-consider-swoop-Ivory-Coast-midfielder-Franck-Kessie.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
Saint Charlie Posted 27 May, 2016 Author Posted 27 May, 2016 Saints quoted €25m for Zaza. Would rather keep Pelle tbh! Fees for English teams are mad this summer so hopefully we get mega money for Mane if he did go.
JxgrSaint Posted 27 May, 2016 Posted 27 May, 2016 Saints quoted €25m for Zaza. Would rather keep Pelle tbh! Fees for English teams are mad this summer so hopefully we get mega money for Mane if he did go. According to GdS that €25m is made up of Pelle & €10m
Wade Garrett Posted 27 May, 2016 Posted 27 May, 2016 He scored 5 goals in 19 appearances for Juventus last season. No thanks.
goneawol Posted 27 May, 2016 Posted 27 May, 2016 He scored 5 goals in 19 appearances for Juventus last season. No thanks. How many starts/minutes?
Wade Garrett Posted 27 May, 2016 Posted 27 May, 2016 How many starts/minutes? Not really interested at the prices quoted.
JxgrSaint Posted 27 May, 2016 Posted 27 May, 2016 (edited) How many starts/minutes? Per transfermarkt Zaza (24) in Serie A: 5 goals in 664 mins (132.8 mins per goal) Pelle (30) in Prem: 11 goals in 2,171 mins (197.4 mins per goal) Lots of sub appearances for Zaza skewed the stats - 9 appearances were 15 mins or less Edited 27 May, 2016 by JxgrSaint
sadoldgit Posted 27 May, 2016 Posted 27 May, 2016 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3611707/Southampton-QPR-consider-swoop-Ivory-Coast-midfielder-Franck-Kessie.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 Makes Vic look like David Walliams!
sadoldgit Posted 27 May, 2016 Posted 27 May, 2016 Dennis Praet off to Boro! Probably wants to play with Gaston.
Bananaman Posted 27 May, 2016 Posted 27 May, 2016 You had heard of Xhaka before last week then? I sense a hint of cynicism in this, but shall answer respectfully... Yes, I had.
Wade Garrett Posted 27 May, 2016 Posted 27 May, 2016 Per transfermarkt Zaza (24) in Serie A: 5 goals in 664 mins (132.8 mins per goal) Pelle (30) in Prem: 11 goals in 2,171 mins (197.4 mins per goal) Lots of sub appearances for Zaza skewed the stats - 9 appearances were 15 mins or less How can he be worth 25m if he only played 664 minutes last season?
JxgrSaint Posted 28 May, 2016 Posted 28 May, 2016 How can he be worth 25m if he only played 664 minutes last season? New TV deal I guess - English clubs are going to be squeezed on the continent
Useful Idiot Posted 28 May, 2016 Posted 28 May, 2016 From what little I've seen of him (a few games for Sassuolo and a couple for Juve) Zaza looks like an extremely promising player who is closer in style of play to Osvaldo than Pelle (although I've not heard anything of him being a complete loon). He's skillful, tricky, quick and can score spectacular goals. He's also a good age and considering what Koeman and the team managed to achieve in improving Long, he might be worth a shout. He's certainly a more cultured finisher than Long and has similar pace but far a more consistent touch. He can also play in behind a striker and I think he has the attributes to perform a similar 'wide forward' role to the one Jay Rod used to, but starting from the right wing and cutting in on his left foot.
Saint Charlie Posted 30 May, 2016 Author Posted 30 May, 2016 @PortuBall: Southampton have sent several scouts to collect different opinions on 22-year-old Rúben Semedo, according to A Bola. https://t.co/WNItduklJo http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/southampton-send-several-officials-to-club-keen-on-flexible-defen
alpine_saint Posted 30 May, 2016 Posted 30 May, 2016 @PortuBall: Southampton have sent several scouts to collect different opinions on 22-year-old Rúben Semedo, according to A Bola. https://t.co/WNItduklJo http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/southampton-send-several-officials-to-club-keen-on-flexible-defen We got a thing about green and white hoops ?
SuperSAINT Posted 30 May, 2016 Posted 30 May, 2016 @PortuBall: Southampton have sent several scouts to collect different opinions on 22-year-old Rúben Semedo, according to A Bola. https://t.co/WNItduklJo http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/southampton-send-several-officials-to-club-keen-on-flexible-defen Think he was linked earlier this summer as his name rings a bell.
shurlock Posted 30 May, 2016 Posted 30 May, 2016 We got a thing about green and white hoops ? Gives me a Twister craving too.
Lighthouse Posted 30 May, 2016 Posted 30 May, 2016 A few posters, myself included, thought Januzaj could be on the radar a while back. Surely Mourinho, the Grim Reaper of youth academies, would make a move away more likely for players like him. Could be one of those 'not big enough for a big club' players we sometimes go for, like Bertrand, Romeu or Cork.
Crab Lungs Posted 30 May, 2016 Posted 30 May, 2016 Agent Fonte at again Absolute beast of a player. Great range of passing. Would be a great signing... if in the realms of possibility.
CB Fry Posted 30 May, 2016 Posted 30 May, 2016 Agent Fonte at again I'd like to make it clear how disgusted I am by this type of thing.
wild-saint Posted 30 May, 2016 Posted 30 May, 2016 I'd like to make it clear how disgusted I am by this type of thing. oh dont be a ****
benjii Posted 30 May, 2016 Posted 30 May, 2016 I'm looking forward to Fonte's testimonial. As a player, who has done more for the club other than him and MLT?
Saints foreva Posted 30 May, 2016 Posted 30 May, 2016 I don't know about that, he got a very good deal to come here. But probably top 10 in best long term servants I'd say. One of our best signings ever. Definitely deserves his testimonial and would be great celebration of our 2018 title win! Was it 2008 or 2009? He should get there anyway. Could well coincide with his leaving or retiring. January 2010 he signed.
Saint Charlie Posted 30 May, 2016 Author Posted 30 May, 2016 http://readbundesliga.com/2016/05/30/werder-bremen-midfielder-wanted-by-west-ham-and-southampton/
Saint Charlie Posted 30 May, 2016 Author Posted 30 May, 2016 http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/poch-game-style-attracts-player-to-tottenham-more-so-that-west-ha
shurlock Posted 30 May, 2016 Posted 30 May, 2016 http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/poch-game-style-attracts-player-to-tottenham-more-so-that-west-ha Being argentinian is also a plus.
SuperSAINT Posted 30 May, 2016 Posted 30 May, 2016 Any takers? Yes please. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/05/30/arsene-wenger-ready-to-send-calum-chambers-out-on-loan-as-arsena/
CWD Posted 30 May, 2016 Posted 30 May, 2016 Any takers? Yes please. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/05/30/arsene-wenger-ready-to-send-calum-chambers-out-on-loan-as-arsena/ I know our policy on youth has evolved slightly over the last couple of years, but I'd be very surprised if we started loaning in young players from other clubs, consequently moving our own youth players down the pecking order.
Lighthouse Posted 30 May, 2016 Posted 30 May, 2016 Any takers? Yes please. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/05/30/arsene-wenger-ready-to-send-calum-chambers-out-on-loan-as-arsena/ No thanks. If anything he's gone backwards since he left here, whilst we've moved on. The problem with buggering off to sit on the bench at a big club.
angelman Posted 30 May, 2016 Posted 30 May, 2016 No thanks. If anything he's gone backwards since he left here, whilst we've moved on. The problem with buggering off to sit on the bench at a big club. I agree. He made his bed, he can lie in it. Pretty much sums the problems of the PL up. People are always chasing the big bucks. He had so much time on his side, that he could have stayed with us and developed for 5 years before making his move. But no, presume it was his agent who said he must go without waiting. Another question is, why should we help his progression only for him to return to Arsenal (presumably) a better player? Seems very detrimental to us if we do want to push on and challenge for a CL spot to help strengthen a competitor's squad. With regards to scouting him at the Toulon Cup, I would suspect that the scouts were looking at Redmond rather than Chambers. Or possible Lewis Baker but presume Chelsea would hold on for a while.
Nolan Posted 30 May, 2016 Posted 30 May, 2016 Would much rather take a punt on Iorfa. Totally agree, looked good in toulon.
SuperSAINT Posted 30 May, 2016 Posted 30 May, 2016 Would much rather take a punt on Iorfa. We were linked with him recently, I believe?
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