a1ex2001 Posted 19 May, 2016 Posted 19 May, 2016 how long will the Ox be out for? approximately as long as he remains at Arsenal as it is clear that Wenger breaks players even though he likes to dismiss the evidence.
eddie Posted 19 May, 2016 Posted 19 May, 2016 That's a shame, they were a decent club at that level. I can't see Ziyech hanging around though. smoke and a pancake...! the bloke has 17 goals and 12 assists in the eredivisie this season! Never heard of him before your post and a quick browse on transfermarkt. sign him up.
SuperSAINT Posted 19 May, 2016 Posted 19 May, 2016 Are these all Mane replacements? Or is it competition or him moving central? It changes things a lot. I mean I'd be happy to have Redmond on the bench and competing and improving. If we were relying on him to start it would be a huge step backwards. It's from this article: http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11700/10287703/southampton-expect-victor-wanyama-to-be-tempted-away-this-summer-sky-sources It states that we expect Vic (& possibly Pelle) to move. (But strangely, not Mane) - So lets assume it's in addition to having Mane around.
Bewildered Posted 19 May, 2016 Posted 19 May, 2016 It's from this article: http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11700/10287703/southampton-expect-victor-wanyama-to-be-tempted-away-this-summer-sky-sources It states that we expect Vic (& possibly Pelle) to move. (But strangely, not Mane) - So lets assume it's in addition to having Mane around. With Wanyama, there is no reason to believe he won't want to move during the summer given his antics last summer. As for Pelle, most other reports linking him with a move over the last few weeks claim we are not exactly rushing to offer him a new contract so it is no surprise if he moves either.
SuperSAINT Posted 19 May, 2016 Posted 19 May, 2016 http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/05/19/ronald-koeman-lavishes-praise-on-az-alkmaar-striker-vincent-jans/?
goneawol Posted 19 May, 2016 Posted 19 May, 2016 http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/7162441/Southampton-plot-10m-swoop-for-Anderlecht-star-Dennis-Praet-but-face-stiff-competition-from-Leicester.html
Saint Charlie Posted 19 May, 2016 Author Posted 19 May, 2016 http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/7162441/Southampton-plot-10m-swoop-for-Anderlecht-star-Dennis-Praet-but-face-stiff-competition-from-Leicester.html Praet's Agent has been working overtime for 2 years hyping him for a PL move. I would bet this is more of the same.
benjii Posted 19 May, 2016 Posted 19 May, 2016 I think we could do with another wide attacker regardless of whether Mane stays or leaves. Jay Rod, sadly, has to be assumed as useless until he proves otherwise, Juanmi hasn't shown any signs of pushing for match time and Long is preferred centrally now. It didn't really matter when we played 352 but if we want a default 433/4231 we need another wide player.
Saint IQ Posted 20 May, 2016 Posted 20 May, 2016 I know we've been watching Rafa Silva for a long time (at least a couple of years). Would love it if we get him over Liverpool! Perhaps Jose could put a word in for us. £15.3m release clause is probably worth it. Also we have European football to offer, they don't http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/516800/Liverpool-secret-payment-bonus-Rafa-Silva-beat-Manchester-United-deal
Saint IQ Posted 20 May, 2016 Posted 20 May, 2016 He's in the Portuguese squad with Mr Fonte and Cedric. If we are to do it I think we'd have get in there quickly before the euros start, be a real statement of intent if we got him in early. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/05/18/portugal-euro-2016-squad/
SuperSAINT Posted 21 May, 2016 Posted 21 May, 2016 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3602442/Southampton-monitor-Anderlecht-star-Dennis-Praet-consider-10-million-bid.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
K,Billy's supersound Posted 21 May, 2016 Posted 21 May, 2016 Players want out so let the rebuilding begin. Your gonna love this summers meltdown. I think i will just unplug the internet and enjoy hopefully some nice sunshine and the Euro's.
whelk Posted 21 May, 2016 Posted 21 May, 2016 Players want out so let the rebuilding begin. Your gonna love this summers meltdown. I think i will just unplug the internet and enjoy hopefully some nice sunshine and the Euro's. Before you unplug -who?
SuperSAINT Posted 21 May, 2016 Posted 21 May, 2016 Players want out so let the rebuilding begin. Your gonna love this summers meltdown. I think i will just unplug the internet and enjoy hopefully some nice sunshine and the Euro's. FFS
Saint_Ash Posted 21 May, 2016 Posted 21 May, 2016 Says more about them than the club if they want out when we're doing brilliantly and improving year on year. Greedy players that think the grass is always greener. We can replace them with better, we have done every season to date and will continue to do so.
Batman Posted 21 May, 2016 Posted 21 May, 2016 Players want out so let the rebuilding begin. Your gonna love this summers meltdown. I think i will just unplug the internet and enjoy hopefully some nice sunshine and the Euro's. Bound to be someone unexpected. Bertrand I reckon
Donatello Posted 21 May, 2016 Posted 21 May, 2016 Players want out so let the rebuilding begin. Your gonna love this summers meltdown. I think i will just unplug the internet and enjoy hopefully some nice sunshine and the Euro's. Any subtle hints about names? As above, suspect it's fairly obvious though.
SuperSAINT Posted 21 May, 2016 Posted 21 May, 2016 Bound to be someone unexpected. Bertrand I reckon The only way to pick myself up from that blow is if we nick Brendan's left-back at Celtic
Saints foreva Posted 21 May, 2016 Posted 21 May, 2016 Players want out so let the rebuilding begin. Your gonna love this summers meltdown. I think i will just unplug the internet and enjoy hopefully some nice sunshine and the Euro's. Let's just hope we replace them better than we replaced Clyne and Schneiderlin.
Sour Mash Posted 21 May, 2016 Posted 21 May, 2016 Players want out so let the rebuilding begin. Your gonna love this summers meltdown. I think i will just unplug the internet and enjoy hopefully some nice sunshine and the Euro's. We all know a few players will most likely leave, that's not news. Bound to be someone unexpected. Bertrand I reckon Only one I can think of that hasn't been speculated much and would be a blow. I guess if Mane, Wanyama and Bertrand go that's three key players and can be classed asa "rebuilding", we'd get a s**t load of cash for them though.
Nolan Posted 21 May, 2016 Posted 21 May, 2016 Players want out so let the rebuilding begin. Your gonna love this summers meltdown. I think i will just unplug the internet and enjoy hopefully some nice sunshine and the Euro's. more money for us, apart from The Bargain price that Vic will have to go for due to his contract... but if they want to potentially follow Schneiderlin's bench sitting / absent from international squad example, then good for them.
Guan 2.0 Posted 21 May, 2016 Posted 21 May, 2016 Wanyama ,mane and pele which we all knew we move on 2 more
SuperSAINT Posted 21 May, 2016 Posted 21 May, 2016 2 more I hope the hierarchy expected this. Replacing 5 players AGAIN is a big ask.
Donatello Posted 21 May, 2016 Posted 21 May, 2016 Why not state who? VVD and Forster Bertrand, surely, and one of Tadic or Long?
Saints foreva Posted 21 May, 2016 Posted 21 May, 2016 Can't imagine Koeman will be happy if he has to rebuild again. Probably expects Wanyama to leave and maybe Mane if the right money comes in.
Mikey88 Posted 21 May, 2016 Posted 21 May, 2016 Judging by Long's latest tweet, he seems to be looking forward to the Europa League next year so don't think it will be him.
Downthe36 Posted 21 May, 2016 Posted 21 May, 2016 Zero chance of Koeman committing to longer then. Shame as I was just getting my hopes up!
Whitey Grandad Posted 21 May, 2016 Posted 21 May, 2016 Judging by Long's latest tweet, he seems to be looking forward to the Europa League next year so don't think it will be him. Man Utd? West Ham?
Sour Mash Posted 21 May, 2016 Posted 21 May, 2016 VVD and Forster Bertrand, surely, and one of Tadic or Long? Won't be Long and although I can see Tadic fancying himself for great things I can't see him hugely appealing to anyone better than us. Guan and KBilly are obviously ITK, but seem to be enjoying the attention a bit too much here.
Donatello Posted 21 May, 2016 Posted 21 May, 2016 Judging by Long's latest tweet, he seems to be looking forward to the Europa League next year so don't think it will be him. Bertrand and Tadic then?
saint1977 Posted 21 May, 2016 Posted 21 May, 2016 2 more Soares and Tadic then. Cedric is mysteriously out of favour and has struggled to stay in the side under RK. Tadic enjoyed a strong finish to the season but quite a few stories getting into the press earlier in the year and suspected for a while he may be moving on to somewhere like Benfica. No way Bertrand should be allowed to leave this summer at any price - he gave that interview in the Star, make him honour it and no way we should sell him to Liverpool. Do a Morgan and tell him to get his head down. Let's also remember that VVD and Fraser signed new deals and they are a huge part of our spine. Victor is when he feels like it but his agent is always chasing a signing on fee, as is Mane's.
Mikey88 Posted 21 May, 2016 Posted 21 May, 2016 Bertrand and Tadic then? Probably Bertrand, just have a feeling that maybe Fonte fancies a shot at CL with one of the big Portuguese clubs
Nolan Posted 21 May, 2016 Posted 21 May, 2016 2 more probably Bertrand and Long, given how they've played this year.
Donatello Posted 21 May, 2016 Posted 21 May, 2016 Juanmi, Mane, Pelle, Tadic, Wanyama. Thank you. Meh. Expected. Expected. Interesting. Forgone conclusion
trousers Posted 21 May, 2016 Posted 21 May, 2016 Says more about them than the club if they want out when we're doing brilliantly and improving year on year. Greedy players that think the grass is always greener. We can replace them with better, we have done every season to date and will continue to do so. This
Bewildered Posted 21 May, 2016 Posted 21 May, 2016 Juanmi, Mane, Pelle, Tadic, Wanyama. Sucks if Tadic leaves as well as Mane and Victor, but on the other hand maybe it is not much of a surprise if there is any truth in this piece published a couple of months ago: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3520912/Dusan-Tadic-pondering-away-Southampton-Ronald-Koeman-s-abrasive-management-style.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
Suhari Posted 21 May, 2016 Posted 21 May, 2016 Juanmi, Mane, Pelle, Tadic, Wanyama. Thanks for the updates: appreciated as always! Frustrating on Tadic, no surprise on the others. Would be nice to have a boring summer though!
Sour Mash Posted 21 May, 2016 Posted 21 May, 2016 Thank you. Meh. Expected. Expected. Interesting. Forgone conclusion I think Pelle will be a loss, Austin doesn't offer what he does, but he's getting on and probably fancies a stab at a decent Italian club, similar to Lambert going to Liverpool in a way. I can't see where Tadic would go? Mane and Wanyama will be big losses. Keeps the summer interesting anyway.
CityRanger Posted 21 May, 2016 Posted 21 May, 2016 Juanmi, Mane, Pelle, Tadic, Wanyama. Fair enough. The main thing is a settled solid defence. If we can spend 60-70 million on new attacking players could be quite exciting. (Big Vic will leave a whole though).
Nolan Posted 21 May, 2016 Posted 21 May, 2016 Juanmi, Mane, Pelle, Tadic, Wanyama. I'd be disappointed with Tadic leaving given how he finished the season, but calling that a meltdown? I think we need that amount of change in a 25 man squad to mix things up a bit.
sotonist Posted 21 May, 2016 Posted 21 May, 2016 Bound to be someone unexpected. Bertrand I reckon that's my guess as well.
saint1977 Posted 21 May, 2016 Posted 21 May, 2016 Thanks KBS. Not unexpected, Juanmi just hasn't worked out as a gamble, Tadic seems a little volatile having fallen out with his national manager and suspect the negative press stories about RK during our bad run came from his camp. VW and Mane were always going to seek a move although he finished the season well. Pelle has served us well but wants a crack at Serie A and get the impression RK will grant it given his age. Bit worried about how fragile J Rod and Austin are though, very reliant on Long unless we strengthen in forward areas with someone like Dost.
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 21 May, 2016 Posted 21 May, 2016 Juanmi, Mane, Pelle, Tadic, Wanyama. Thanks for the update. Juanmi, not surprised given his little game time after breaking into the Spanish squad before signing for us Mane, will be a massive loss as he simply scares teams with his pace and skill Pelle, can imagine he fancies a move back to Italy while his stock is high as one of the national team's main strikers Tadic, brilliant on his day but not for long enough periods across a season. Might be able to replace with better Wanyama, can be a formidable defensive shield when his mind is set right but can also dawdle through games when it's not. Might actually be the hardest one to replace. Oh well, it'll keep the summer interesting once England have crashed out of the Euros.
Whitey Grandad Posted 21 May, 2016 Posted 21 May, 2016 Thanks for the update. Juanmi, not surprised given his little game time after breaking into the Spanish squad before signing for us Mane, will be a massive loss as he simply scares teams with his pace and skill Pelle, can imagine he fancies a move back to Italy while his stock is high as one of the national team's main strikers Tadic, brilliant on his day but not for long enough periods across a season. Might be able to replace with better Wanyama, can be a formidable defensive shield when his mind is set right but can also dawdle through games when it's not. Might actually be the hardest one to replace. Oh well, it'll keep the summer interesting once England have crashed out of the Euros. That would be quite a big change to the team. Having a manager who is not committed long term persuading players to join us might be interesting.
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