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Thirty Years Ago How Things Have Changed


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Thirty Years Ago today we beat Brighton 2 0 to get into the FA Cup Semi Final I looked at the line up

 

Peter Shilton

Steve Baker

Mark Wright

Kevin Bond

Nick Holmes

David Armstrong

Jimmy Case

Glenn Cockerill

George Lawrence

Steve Moran

Danny Wallace

 

and realized they were all English

 

I doubt we could put out an all English team today but it shows how football has changed

 

On saturday we had two English starters and two on the bench

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We could have a really good team if we combined those in 1986 with those of today

 

I would go for

 

Peter Shilton

Cedric Soares

Mark Wright

Virgil VanDijk

Ryan Bertrand

David Armstrong

Jimmy Case

Steven Davis

Graziani Pelle

Steve Moran

Danny Wallace

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We could have a really good team if we combined those in 1986 with those of today

 

I would go for

 

Peter Shilton

Cedric Soares

Mark Wright

Virgil VanDijk

Ryan Bertrand

David Armstrong

Jimmy Case

Steven Davis

Graziani Pelle

Steve Moran

Danny Wallace

 

Wright and VVD .. .what a pair of 'total football' CB's they would be.

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We could have a really good team if we combined those in 1986 with those of today

 

I would go for

 

Peter Shilton

Cedric Soares

Mark Wright

Virgil VanDijk

Ryan Bertrand

David Armstrong

Jimmy Case

Steven Davis

Graziani Pelle

Steve Moran

Danny Wallace

 

 

Swap Steve Davis for Nick Holmes in midfield (NH at full back in the OP but he could play pretty much anywhere you asked him to) and you've got a CL qualifying team there.

Oh how we could do with a Jimmy Case in the side today, don't think we've had one since .... well since Jimmy Case.

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Swap Steve Davis for Nick Holmes in midfield (NH at full back in the OP but he could play pretty much anywhere you asked him to) and you've got a CL qualifying team there.

Oh how we could do with a Jimmy Case in the side today, don't think we've had one since .... well since Jimmy Case.

 

Did we not play in European competitions around that time?

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Did we not play in European competitions around that time?

 

We certainly did. Top 5 finishes two seasons in a row, European Football, two FA Cup semi finals in 3 seasons, a brilliant team with first choice England internationals and top young players like Steve Moran and Danny Wallace mixed in with quality older players like Jimmy Case, Joe Jordan. That was the first saints team I started watching and I thought it would always be like that. After Adrian Heath made me cry in 1984 my dad gave me the best bit of advise he ever did, something along the lines of "you'll get used to days like this".

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Jesus this thread makes me feel old, my first game was the 84 season. Cov at home and we won 9-3 I think. I remember my older brother telling me not to get used to it, how right he was!

 

To be fair I genuinely think the last few years, coming up the leagues till now, has been almost as much fun as those days. Hopefully we don't now have a branfoot inspired drop to come!

 

 

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Jesus this thread makes me feel old, my first game was the 84 season. Cov at home and we won 9-3 I think. I remember my older brother telling me not to get used to it, how right he was!

 

To be fair I genuinely think the last few years, coming up the leagues till now, has been almost as much fun as those days. Hopefully we don't now have a branfoot inspired drop to come!

 

PEDANT ALERT!

 

8-2.

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Jesus this thread makes me feel old, my first game was the 84 season. Cov at home and we won 9-3 I think. I remember my older brother telling me not to get used to it, how right he was!

 

To be fair I genuinely think the last few years, coming up the leagues till now, has been almost as much fun as those days. Hopefully we don't now have a branfoot inspired drop to come!

 

 

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Branfoot kept us up ! Tremendous fighting spirit against all the odds. Those relegation fights when we were the 'runt' of the league were the best ever.

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Begs the questions

 

1. Who was the first foreign player in modern times who played for us (think I know the answer to this)

2. Ditto first black player (not sure)

3. Who was our first ever sub (not sure)

 

1. Ivan Golac

2. Bit of a trick question as the first black player I think was Alf Charles, a GK in the 1920's or 30's (no doubt one of our historians will confirm). Of more modern times, 1970's onwards I think it was Osher Williams or Tony Sealey (a season or two before Danny Wallace, Reuben Agboola, and Chicken George).

3. No idea...

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1. Ivan Golac

2. Bit of a trick question as the first black player I think was Alf Charles, a GK in the 1920's or 30's (no doubt one of our historians will confirm). Of more modern times, 1970's onwards I think it was Osher Williams or Tony Sealey (a season or two before Danny Wallace, Reuben Agboola, and Chicken George).

3. No idea...

 

3. In a league fixture I believe it was 8th September 1965 - Division 2 (when Division 2 was actually Division 2) - Saints 1 Coventry 0 - half-back Ken Wimshurst came on from keeper John Hollowbread (I think this was Hollowbread' last competitive appearance for Saints). Not sure if we used a substitute prior to this in a non-competitive fixture.

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