James Ward-Prowse. Is he living up to potential?

[georgeweahscousin]

James Ward-Prowse. Is he living up to potential?

 

http://georgeweahscousin.com/kangaroo-court-the-ward-prowse-debate/

[Saint Charlie]

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?t=55535

 

Bit of opinion here.

 

He is one of those who plays well when the team is on top but struggles if we are up against it like against Bournemouth.

 

Physical attributes will stop him being as good as some think but he will have a PL career for a decade or more which is no mean feat.

[sadoldgit]

Another JWP thread? Didn't the last one live up to its potential?

[Wopper]

If he gets much better he will f-off to a bigger club like all the others.

[Mosin]

If he gets much better he will f-off to a bigger club like all the others.

 

He has already had that chance but signed a 5 year deal. not 100 % sure as it was a while back but i think it was Liverpool, Spurs and Man city who where eyeing him up for around 20 million a season or two ago.

[Saint Benali]

Nope

[Batman]

No.

IMO

[ScepticalStan]

I think it was Liverpool, Spurs and Man city who where eyeing him up for around 20 million a season or two ago.

 

[bpsaint]

He has already had that chance but signed a 5 year deal. not 100 % sure as it was a while back but i think it was Liverpool, Spurs and Man city who where eyeing him up for around 20 million a season or two ago.

 

Really? We should have taken the money and run!

[david in sweden]

A lot of the criticism about JWP on previous threads, takes little account of the overall circumstances.

Firstly, despite 100 games he is still young, and still has quite a bit to learn. Consequently, he has good games, and others where he's not in the action at all.

Some of his best performances have been in games that we have lost, but through no fault of his.

 

Although there are fans screaming for more Academy lads to be given chances, few of us could say that he is much better than the first-choice players we have now.

YET..those same people forget that even big-money signings who have come in ....have needed a good run of games to find their a role in the team.

Think back; Pelle and Mane..and now Cedric, Clasie and Romeu didn't fit in like the missing piece of jig saw directly...it took time to adjust. Juanmi may never do so.

But they are all experienced players with a track record...not the teenage talent that we say we want to nurture, but who only get games here and there.

 

We cannot compare the previous Academy names that moved onto "bigger clubs " either as the circumstances are different with each of them.

Walcott and Bale were exciting talents who showed up well in declining sides (prior to relegation) and we were still slowly on the up when Alex O-C got all the attention.

 

When Nigel Adkins (not Pochettino btw) started playing Luke Shaw regularly - every fan agreed that choosing him ahead of Danny Fox, was a no-brainer.

 

Ward-Prowse has been thrown into the side to play, in several different roles, often in injury crises or as sub.and been criticised for "indifferent performances" whereas players carefully scouted for specific roles in the side (via Black Box etc )...already sure of what they need to do when they arrive at the club, still take time to adjust.

 

Even his critics have to admit that JWP's dead ball abilities are excellent, and only his lack of goals seems to be the main criticism, yet he's not afraid to take spot kicks.

Much has been said about JWP's admiration of Beckham's talent, and on occasions he's shown that he's learned those skills too, but it should be remembered that even Beckham (at the same age) was nowhere near the level that he later achieved.

 

NOTE; Beckham played 6 seasons before getting 100 games and his career was helped in a superior Man Utd side that won silverware every season, sometimes more.

 

IMHO ...only when the likes of Steven Davis move on /retire will JWP get his real chance, but like Davis he will get mixed reviews from fans - even in the same match.

Edited 6 March, 2016 by david in sweden

[LGTL]

Let's be honest, he would have gone the same way as Shaw, Chambers, AOC, Walcott, Lallana, Bale et al if he was THAT good. He doesn't influence games enough, doesn't score, doesn't tackle/defend. In fact, I'm hard pressed to know what it is he does do.

[Saint Billy]

Tbh not everyone thought he had potential in the first place. I personally feel that he is not pl quality.

[LGTL]

One things for certain, if he was from Equador or Peru the masses would have turned on him by now. He gets more patience because he's a nice lad who does interviews and probably retweets members of the travel club.

[Shance]

A lot of the criticism about JWP on previous threads, takes little account of the overall circumstances.

Firstly, despite 100 games he is still young, and still has quite a bit to learn. Consequently, he has good games, and others where he's not in the action at all.

Some of his best performances have been in games that we have lost, but through no fault of his.

 

Although there are fans screaming for more Academy lads to be given chances, few of us could say that he is much better than the first-choice players we have now.

YET..those same people forget that even big-money signings who have come in ....have needed a good run of games to find their a role in the team.

Think back; Pelle and Mane..and now Cedric, Clasie and Romeu didn't fit in like the missing piece of jig saw directly...it took time to adjust. Juanmi may never do so.

But they are all experienced players with a track record...not the teenage talent that we say we want to nurture, but who only get games here and there.

 

We cannot compare the previous Academy names that moved onto "bigger clubs " either as the circumstances are different with each of them.

Walcott and Bale were exciting talents who showed up well in declining sides (prior to relegation) and we were still slowly on the up when Alex O-C got all the attention.

 

When Nigel Adkins (not Pochettino btw) started playing Luke Shaw regularly - every fan agreed that choosing him ahead of Danny Fox, was a no-brainer.

 

Ward-Prowse has been thrown into the side to play, in several different roles, often in injury crises or as sub.and been criticised for "indifferent performances" whereas players carefully scouted for specific roles in the side (via Black Box etc )...already sure of what they need to do when they arrive at the club, still take time to adjust.

 

Even his critics have to admit that JWP's dead ball abilities are excellent, and only his lack of goals seems to be the main criticism, yet he's not afraid to take spot kicks.

Much has been said about JWP's admiration of Beckham's talent, and on occasions he's shown that he's learned those skills too, but it should be remembered that even Beckham (at the same age) was nowhere near the level that he later achieved.

 

NOTE; Beckham played 6 seasons before getting 100 games and his career was helped in a superior Man Utd side that won silverware every season, sometimes more.

 

IMHO ...only when the likes of Steven Davis move on /retire will JWP get his real chance, but like Davis he will get mixed reviews from fans - even in the same match.

 

This is a top post.

[ScepticalStan]

One things for certain, if he was from Equador or Peru the masses would have turned on him by now. He gets more patience because he's a nice lad who does interviews and probably retweets members of the travel club.

 

Yup.