Bournemouth Away Build Up Thread

[Saint Charlie]

Long a doubt, 50/50 according to RonK.

 

Will assess the freshness of squad this afternoon.

 

Would imagine JWP for Clasie will happen and Mane will surely start in place of Long if he doesn't make it.

[SuperSAINT]

Would imagine JWP for Clasie will happen and Mane will surely start in place of Long if he doesn't make it

 

Agree. You'd have thought Pelle & Austin would be too static.

 

Have no problem with JWP starting as his set-pieces are so good.

[Shroppie]

If we stick with three at the back, JWP for Clasie and Mané (I hope) or Pelle (I fear) for Long.

 

Could go to a back four with Targett out and Tadic in

 

 

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[lickierambert]

I have a feeling Koeman is going to change things up quite heavily.

 

4-3-3, Martina at right back, and JWP, Mane, Pelle up front

[doddisalegend]

Maybe its just me but I'd quite like to see Tadic with Austin and Mane upfront and back to a 4-3-3 or what ever you want to call it. I think Tadic and Austin could be quite good if they played together.

[gammoncheeks]

Maybe its just me but I'd quite like to see Tadic with Austin and Mane upfront and back to a 4-3-3 or what ever you want to call it. I think Tadic and Austin could be quite good if they played together.

Be nice to play Tadic Mane and Austin front as this is a game we should be going for goals and winning .....Although we have been on a good run we have been bloody boring to watch !

[Saint 76er]

Maybe its just me but I'd quite like to see Tadic with Austin and Mane upfront and back to a 4-3-3 or what ever you want to call it. I think Tadic and Austin could be quite good if they played together.

 

This works for me as well. We need to take advantage of Austin's finishing in front of goal and Tadic is our best provider. He works well with Bertie down the left channel and we need some creativity, especially with CA to aim for.

[Lord Duckhunter]

I'll be getting down about 3ish (without colours) and going to the Percy Shelley Wetherspoons for something to eat - hopefully will be a few other pubs in the area or someone else will mention some places.

 

There won't be much round Boscombe or Pokesdown that'll let you in without showing a home ticket . Not that that's a bad thing there's no decent pubs about anyway . I'd go into town , there's a big whetherspoons on the square , also the Goat & Tricycle at the triangle if you like real ale ( although be careful you don't go in the wrong pub up there , unless you're that way inclined ). If you're a lager drinker there's plenty of boozers from Lansdowne down to town that are walking distance from train station ( but away from ground so you'll need a taxi or bus ) . We're starting off in Poole , followed by Ashley Cross ( parkstone train station) , far better pubs than near the ground , but maybe quiet on a tues afternoon. Only 10 mins from Pokesdown or Bournemouth station by train , so plenty of drinking time

[david in sweden]

It's a good job that Long has been around to score those goals because neither Pelle or Mane have scored in months.

 

If Long doesn't play.....we may start with Austin and ....Mane (?) and if things don't go according to plan A.....let's see Tadic doing his "super sub" routine.....

 

Really looking forward to having JayRod back in contention.

 

Score? .....hopefully a win.... 2-0?....but may have to settle for 1-1

[simo]

I'd be tempted to go back 4 2 3 1 with a front 4 of Austin , Mane , Jwp and Davis !

[Mattio]

There won't be much round Boscombe or Pokesdown that'll let you in without showing a home ticket . Not that that's a bad thing there's no decent pubs about anyway . I'd go into town , there's a big whetherspoons on the square , also the Goat & Tricycle at the triangle if you like real ale ( although be careful you don't go in the wrong pub up there , unless you're that way inclined ). If you're a lager drinker there's plenty of boozers from Lansdowne down to town that are walking distance from train station ( but away from ground so you'll need a taxi or bus ) . We're starting off in Poole , followed by Ashley Cross ( parkstone train station) , far better pubs than near the ground , but maybe quiet on a tues afternoon. Only 10 mins from Pokesdown or Bournemouth station by train , so plenty of drinking time

Cheers for the tips, I was wondering if that would be the case so I'll be heading into town in that case! Also a fan of ale so will head for the Goat and Tricycle!

[simo]

Long us in the training video!

[Saint Charlie]

Long us in the training video!

Would be great if he is available as I think his pace would trouble their centre backs.

 

Imagine the footage we see is largely just the warming up phase of training though.

 

They will just have Afobe up top - does that really need 3 CBs?

[striker]

I'd play Long & Austin up front the rest of the season. Mane as a sub. The Long/Austin combo is good for 3 goals on Tuesday

[Whitey Grandad]

Anyone got any advice where to park? Will be coming down after work, time may be a bit tight...

 

Whenever I've gone there for an evening game I usually go down the A338 just past the ground and take the next exit onto the A3089 turning to the right (north) away from the ground. There are plenty of residential streets there such as Egerton Road. Depending on how early you are you can park reasonably close but even from somewhere like Shaftesbury Road it's only about 15 minutes to walk. There is a pedestrian underpass under the A338. Make a good note of where you park because it can get confusing later. It's a quick exit back onto the A338 and home. I normally get home quicker than I do from St Mary's.

[Leicestersaint]

It will be tough.

[Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd]

Sadly, I can see us losing this one.

[sotonnick]

Preview now up on: http://theitchenperspective.blogspot.co.uk/

[hasper57saint]

Sadly, I can see us losing this one.

 

Sadly,so too does that expert pratictor Lawro!

[Lord Duckhunter]

Whenever I've gone there for an evening game I usually go down the A338 just past the ground and take the next exit onto the A3089 turning to the right (north) away from the ground. There are plenty of residential streets there such as Egerton Road. Depending on how early you are you can park reasonably close but even from somewhere like Shaftesbury Road it's only about 15 minutes to walk. There is a pedestrian underpass under the A338. Make a good note of where you park because it can get confusing later. It's a quick exit back onto the A338 and home. I normally get home quicker than I do from St Mary's.

 

Have you done it since the work started on the Spur Road , it's a nightmare . People pushed for time maybe lucky , but if you're coming via Ringwood there can be big queues .

[LGTL]

Don't drink anywhere near the ground. Boscombe is a hole. Oh, and anyone thinking of driving down the A338 needs their head testing unless leaving at about midday. It's an absolute nightmare right from before Ringwood each morning and evening.

[Pat from Poole]

Have you done it since the work started on the Spur Road , it's a nightmare . People pushed for time maybe lucky , but if you're coming via Ringwood there can be big queues .

 

Agreed. I live in Poole and work in Basingstoke, and it's a nightmare.

 

If you're driving from Southampton, I'd be inclined to come off the M27 at Junction 1, and take the road to Lyndhurst and then on to Christchurch. It is quite a detour, but you won't spend so long queueing.

 

Either way, I'd be looking to get the train if I was a Saints fan at this game.

[Pat from Poole]

There won't be much round Boscombe or Pokesdown that'll let you in without showing a home ticket . Not that that's a bad thing there's no decent pubs about anyway . I'd go into town , there's a big whetherspoons on the square , also the Goat & Tricycle at the triangle if you like real ale ( although be careful you don't go in the wrong pub up there , unless you're that way inclined ). If you're a lager drinker there's plenty of boozers from Lansdowne down to town that are walking distance from train station ( but away from ground so you'll need a taxi or bus ) . We're starting off in Poole , followed by Ashley Cross ( parkstone train station) , far better pubs than near the ground , but maybe quiet on a tues afternoon. Only 10 mins from Pokesdown or Bournemouth station by train , so plenty of drinking time

 

Agreed. Ashley Cross has the best pubs in Poole / Bournemouth, and the least number of idiots.

[LGTL]

If you have to drive on the A31/A338 and are leaving quite late, I'd go off the A31 at Poulner and head around the back of Ringwood towards Avon, over the Avon Bridge and into Parley, then rejoin the A338 just before Cooper Dean. I've tried every single route into Bournemouth since September and this is by far the best.

[Pat from Poole]

If you have to drive on the A31/A338 and are leaving quite late, I'd go off the A31 at Poulner and head around the back of Ringwood towards Avon, over the Avon Bridge and into Parley, then rejoin the A338 just before Cooper Dean. I've tried every single route into Bournemouth since September and this is by far the best.

 

Whenever I've gone this way, I've had bad queues on Avon Causeway or Hurn Bridge.

 

Saints fans need to be setting off early for this game. You should allow for an hour and a half journey time.

[scotty]

I wish people would stick to the topic and avoid petty squabbles and trolling.

 

Priceless.

[SaintTex]

Maybe its just me but I'd quite like to see Tadic with Austin and Mane upfront and back to a 4-3-3 or what ever you want to call it. I think Tadic and Austin could be quite good if they played together.

Tadic not getting playing time has hurt us offensively. It hard to complain much when we were in such good form before Chelsea, but Tadic doesn't have a natural place in the Starting XI when we go 3-5-2. (really should be called 5-3-2, because I am not convinced Cedric and Targett are adding much offensively).

 

I may be in the minority but we need Tadic to be on the pitch way more. Just not sure how that can happen as we have been lining up so defensively (with mostly good results, squeeking out wins until last Saturday).

[SaintTex]

maybe something like this?

 

------------------Forster--------------------

Cedric– Fonte – VvD – Bertrand – Targett

----Clasie ------Romeu ------Tadic -------

----------Long---------Austin---------------

[Whitey Grandad]

Have you done it since the work started on the Spur Road , it's a nightmare . People pushed for time maybe lucky , but if you're coming via Ringwood there can be big queues .

 

No I haven't, to be honest.

[for_heaven's_Saint]

Tadic not getting playing time has hurt us offensively. It hard to complain much when we were in such good form before Chelsea, but Tadic doesn't have a natural place in the Starting XI when we go 3-5-2. (really should be called 5-3-2, because I am not convinced Cedric and Targett are adding much offensively).

 

I may be in the minority but we need Tadic to be on the pitch way more. Just not sure how that can happen as we have been lining up so defensively (with mostly good results, squeeking out wins until last Saturday).

 

I think I agree with this. If we had wing backs with more attacking ability (e.g we had Clyne and Bertrand was playing LWB) we could arguably do without the creativity of players like Tadic in front. However, as good as the 5-3-2 has been, I feel we have been missing some of our attacking flair, and it's surely against the bottom half teams that we should be playing a more attacking formation.

[Shroppie]

I assume we're in green?

 

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[Sour Mash]

I think I agree with this. If we had wing backs with more attacking ability (e.g we had Clyne and Bertrand was playing LWB) we could arguably do without the creativity of players like Tadic in front. However' date=' as good as the 5-3-2 has been, I feel we have been missing some of our attacking flair, and it's surely against the bottom half teams that we should be playing a more attacking formation.[/quote']

 

I'd say Soares is as good going forward as Clyne, certainly not much in it.

 

Targett is the weak link in that formation really.

[Professor]

If we can't win at Bournemouth we don't deserve a top 6/7 finish but given our surfeit of excellent players we should win with goals to spare. Seeing the discussion about line-ups does raise a question about whether we now have so many good players so that a settled team is hard to agree on.

[for_heaven's_Saint]

I'd say Soares is as good going forward as Clyne, certainly not much in it.

 

Targett is the weak link in that formation really.

 

I'd disagree, and Cedric's crossing is pretty poor really. I don't think he's a bad player but I think we need better delivery from him, and judging by some of Koeman's comments, I think he agrees.

 

(Watch him whip in a couple of great crosses tonight now!)

 

I agree that Targett is the weaker of the two though.

[hypochondriac]

I'd disagree, and Cedric's crossing is pretty poor really. I don't think he's a bad player but I think we need better delivery from him, and judging by some of Koeman's comments, I think he agrees.

 

(Watch him whip in a couple of great crosses tonight now!)

 

I agree that Targett is the weaker of the two though.

 

Targett has put in some great crosses recently though.

[Verbal Kint]

Tadic not getting playing time has hurt us offensively. It hard to complain much when we were in such good form before Chelsea, but Tadic doesn't have a natural place in the Starting XI when we go 3-5-2. (really should be called 5-3-2, because I am not convinced Cedric and Targett are adding much offensively).

 

I may be in the minority but we need Tadic to be on the pitch way more. Just not sure how that can happen as we have been lining up so defensively (with mostly good results, squeeking out wins until last Saturday).

 

I agree, and now that we have Austin hopefully on the end of the chances he creates rather than the wasteful Pelle I think it's time to bring him back in.

 

Forster

Cedric VVD Fonte Bertrand

Davis/JWP Claise Romeu Tadic

Long/Mane Austin

 

The back 5 worked for us when confidence was low and we needed to be more resilient but I think now is the time to revert to a back 4.

Davis/JWP on the right isn't ideal but I think they can both do a job there for now. It's a position we need to look at in the summer

[Sour Mash]

I'd disagree, and Cedric's crossing is pretty poor really. I don't think he's a bad player but I think we need better delivery from him, and judging by some of Koeman's comments, I think he agrees.

 

(Watch him whip in a couple of great crosses tonight now!)

 

I agree that Targett is the weaker of the two though.

 

What were the Koeman comments?

[saints-cris]

With Mane, Tadic & JWP all rested Saturday, wouldn't be too surprised to see them all feature. Quite nice to know we have such a decent bench and able to bring a few in who will be totally fresh for this.

[Badger]

If we can't win at Bournemouth we don't deserve a top 6/7 finish but given our surfeit of excellent players we should win with goals to spare. Seeing the discussion about line-ups does raise a question about whether we now have so many good players so that a settled team is hard to agree on.

 

How often do ww win with "goals to spare", especially away from home?

 

Okay Sundrland & Villa at home last season were pretty exceptional but thoses games aside our tendency is 45 minutes domination, possibly a single goal to show for it, before retreating to regret missed opportunities. I'm hoping that Charlie Austin changes that of course.

[for_heaven's_Saint]

What were the Koeman comments?

 

I can't find them now, but I believe it was before the Swansea game that Koeman said he had left Cedric on the bench so that we could have better quality early crosses (or words to that effect). That said, Cedric later came on and crossed for the winner! Either way, I personally think that he could improve that side of his game. Defensively I think he has come on a lot though and the 5 at the back suits him.

 

 

Targett has put in some great crosses recently though.

 

You're right, he has, but he is pretty inconsistent (understandable given his age). I'd like to see both full backs get further forward and try to beat their man a bit more often too, which is something we do well when we have the likes of Tadic playing.

 

I'm not complaining as recent form has been great, but there's always room for improvement.

[Lets B Avenue]

That said, Cedric later came on and crossed for the winner!

 

 

 

No he didn't. It was JWP.

[Saint Garrett]

Whenever I've gone there for an evening game I usually go down the A338 just past the ground and take the next exit onto the A3089 turning to the right (north) away from the ground. There are plenty of residential streets there such as Egerton Road. Depending on how early you are you can park reasonably close but even from somewhere like Shaftesbury Road it's only about 15 minutes to walk. There is a pedestrian underpass under the A338. Make a good note of where you park because it can get confusing later. It's a quick exit back onto the A338 and home. I normally get home quicker than I do from St Mary's.

 

Thanks for the info Robert..!

[Whitey Grandad]

Thanks for the info Robert..!

 

My pleasure! But please refer to the points made above by others about roadworks. Best not to leave it too late, I'd say. The trouble with that is the evening rush-hours traffic on the A31.

[Chez]

I'd disagree, and Cedric's crossing is pretty poor really. I don't think he's a bad player but I think we need better delivery from him, and judging by some of Koeman's comments, I think he agrees.

 

(Watch him whip in a couple of great crosses tonight now!)

 

I agree that Targett is the weaker of the two though.

 

I've been impressed at Cedric's crossing when he has had to use his left foot. Having that option makes him very effective.

[Charlie Wayman]

Look lads, I hope this is not too late but DO NOT EVEN ATTEMPT THE RINGWOOD / SPUR ROAD ROUTE. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE AT RUSH HOUR TO DO IT IN UNDER TWO AND A HALF HOURS from Poulner Hill.

 

Best to go down the A35 through Christchurch and then via Littledown (Hospital / Tesco) link to Wessex Way. You can turn left at the lights at Littledown crossroads and make your way into the back of the Dean Court area and avoid the Spur Road /Wesssex Way trunk road altogether.

[Maggie May]

Tough game, not confident.

 

No justification, really. Just a hunch.

[trousers]

Forster

 

Cedric

Fonte

VvD

Bertrand

 

JWP

Romeu

Davis

 

Tadic

Mane

Austin

 

Subs: Stek, Targett, Yoshida, Clasie, Juanmi, Pelle, Long

[Saint Garrett]

Look lads, I hope this is not too late but DO NOT EVEN ATTEMPT THE RINGWOOD / SPUR ROAD ROUTE. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE AT RUSH HOUR TO DO IT IN UNDER TWO AND A HALF HOURS from Poulner Hill.

 

Best to go down the A35 through Christchurch and then via Littledown (Hospital / Tesco) link to Wessex Way. You can turn left at the lights at Littledown crossroads and make your way into the back of the Dean Court area and avoid the Spur Road /Wesssex Way trunk road altogether.

 

Interesting...would you say to avoid the A31 & A338? Will be leaving Basingstoke about 4:30/5...

[trousers]

Will be leaving Basingstoke about 4:30/5...

 

Not interested in watching the first half then....?

[angelman]

I would just take the train. Much easier.

 

Agree that the roadworks on the spur road are a ***** in rush hour (but not bad out of it provided there is no crash). From Basingstoke, I would personally go past the end of M27, up the hill on the A31, past the Esso and take the Stoney Cross turning to Emery Down and Lyndhurst. 3 miles to the A35 on small roads but it cuts out the one way bit of Lyndhurst. Depending on what stage the roadworks are at at Hinton by the Cat & Fiddle, you might meet a queue there. Haven't been past for a few days (and don't love you enough to go and look) but it shouldn't be too bad. Then it's the rather tedious Barrack Road. After crossing the River Stour, I would then head up to Pokesdown rather than going past the hospital on to the A338, but then in all honesty I'm not sure what parking is like.