hutch Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 As we haven't got a match this weekend let's find something else to argue about. So who's going to France then? Nailed on Forster Fonte Bertrand Tadic Davis $hlong Probable Cedric Pelle Outsiders JWP Romeu Austin Any more? 10 would be a fair show with our 2½ Dutchmen in the corporate boxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 Don't think tadic will be going. His team never made it I dont think??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 Yeah Serbia never qualified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 Dave Watson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsarum Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 I'm going too got tickets for England in Marseilles and Northern Ireland in Nice the following day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 Who knows but the first 11 will be Hart Clyne Stones Cahill Gibbs Milner Wilshire Lallana Alli Sturridge Rooney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 Be pretty sickening if Gibbs is in the squad/play ahead of Bertrand. he never ever starts for arsenal and rarely plays at all in any league game. Unless he comes on with 10 mins to go as a left midfielder no what what so ever does he deserve to play. Like chamberlain. The lad needs out of that club. But it suits him as he likes the status, lifestyle and of course £££ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 Who knows but the first 11 will be Hart Clyne Stones Cahill Gibbs Milner Wilshire Lallana Alli Sturridge Rooney Nah.... Hart, Clyne Stones Smalling Bertrand --------Ali------Henderson------ Sterling----Rooney------Lallana -------------Kane--------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris27687 Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 Nah.... Hart, Clyne Stones Smalling Bertrand --------Ali------Henderson------ Sterling----Rooney------Lallana -------------Kane--------------- How can you possibly not start Vardy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Uwe Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 I have been thinking about JWP and Targett being outsiders to get into the England squad for the summer. I would have to say it is very unlikely still, but our club is obviously well regarded within the England setup these days, and if they both keep their performances going until the end of the season, then you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Mikey Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 Hart, Butland, Forster Walker, Bertrand, Baines, Stones, Smalling, Jagielka, Cahill Henderson, Barkley, AOC, Sterling, Alli, Dier, Wilshere, Milner, Walcott Kane, Rooney, Vardy, Sturridge This would be my 23. One thing's for sure, he has the biggest squad selection headache since he came in, and for any England manager for a while. There are players like Carrick/Jones/Welbeck/Shelvey/Delph/Gibbs and injuries like Shaw who could all miss out. We have cover in most areas apart from CB, where we are incredibly weak and I'm not even sold on our first choice pairing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lickierambert Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 Whatever happens Henderson and Rooney will be in the starting XI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 Hart, Butland, Forster Walker, Bertrand, Baines, Stones, Smalling, Jagielka, Cahill Henderson, Barkley, AOC, Sterling, Alli, Dier, Wilshere, Milner, Walcott Kane, Rooney, Vardy, Sturridge This would be my 23. One thing's for sure, he has the biggest squad selection headache since he came in, and for any England manager for a while. There are players like Carrick/Jones/Welbeck/Shelvey/Delph/Gibbs and injuries like Shaw who could all miss out. We have cover in most areas apart from CB, where we are incredibly weak and I'm not even sold on our first choice pairing. iof welbeck is fit, he will be in. Roy likes him a lot and even made a point about him on MOTD (not sturridge though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 Who knows but the first 11 will be Hart Clyne Stones Cahill Gibbs Milner Wilshire Lallana Alli Sturridge Rooney That is the problem with Hodgson, won't play the players that are turning it on week in and week out, Ali, Vardy. And will play his star two even if not match fit, Rooney & Wiltshire. The line up will have Lallana, Wiltshire, Sterling, Henderson, Milner, Rooney and Sturridge playing somewhere leaving the players I would love doing it for England stay on the bench. Ali, Vardy & Kane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 Don't forget Townsend - his continued absence at Tottenham may have scuppered his hopes, but Roy likes players who do well for him, regardless of club form, and now that Townsend is playing regularly he might sneak back in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 Would love to see Forster Clyne Stones Cahill Bertrand Dier Alli Vardy Barkley Sterling Kane Will probably be: Hart Jones Smalling Jagielka Baines Henderson Carrick AOC Rooney Welbeck Sturridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 We all know it'll be top 6 reserves, Rooney, limited central midfielders and out of position CBs at RB. Lucky to get through the group then out in the first knockout round I reckon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 I wonder if the dreadful phil jones will make the squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 I have been thinking about JWP and Targett being outsiders to get into the England squad for the summer. I would have to say it is very unlikely still, but our club is obviously well regarded within the England setup these days, and if they both keep their performances going until the end of the season, then you never know. Targett is no where near good enough - that's not to say he couldn't be in 2-3 years - and JWP will only be considered if he starts scoring from open play. What this thread already highlights is that for the first time in quite a while we have a pretty decent group of players and whoever the 11 is that starts there will some quality in the bench. We could win it but I think this will be a good euros regardless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 Hart, Butland, Forster Walker, Bertrand, Baines, Stones, Smalling, Jagielka, Cahill Henderson, Barkley, AOC, Sterling, Alli, Dier, Wilshere, Milner, Walcott Kane, Rooney, Vardy, Sturridge This would be my 23. One thing's for sure, he has the biggest squad selection headache since he came in, and for any England manager for a while. There are players like Carrick/Jones/Welbeck/Shelvey/Delph/Gibbs and injuries like Shaw who could all miss out. We have cover in most areas apart from CB, where we are incredibly weak and I'm not even sold on our first choice pairing. No Clyne? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 Sturridge won't be there, he'll get injured again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 Hope we go out in the groups. Then we might get a decent manager in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorchio21 Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 As we haven't got a match this weekend let's find something else to argue about. So who's going to France then? Nailed on Forster Fonte Bertrand Tadic Davis $hlong Probable Cedric Pelle Outsiders JWP Romeu Austin Any more? 10 would be a fair show with our 2½ Dutchmen in the corporate boxes. Only other one I can think of that you've not mentioned is Gardos. He was playing regularly for Romania before his injury and should have a good chance of at least making the squad. Needs to get some minutes for us if he wants to get much playing time at the Euros though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 I wonder if the dreadful phil jones will make the squad? I certainly hope not. Sometimes his versatility (i.e he can be cr@p in lots of positions) is used as a reason to take him, thus not having to pick back ups for every position, but as Smalling and Stones can play RB if needed surely there can't be any more excuses for him to be in the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Mikey Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 I'd rather use Smalling/Stones as RB cover, giving us more options upfront/midfield. Clyne has been poor this season by his standards and has (IMO) never really played well for England (even when with us). Walker has been much better this season and has more experience. Realised I didn't even include Lallana in the squad! He's been very poor this year, so a shoo-in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 I have been thinking about JWP and Targett being outsiders to get into the England squad for the summer. I would have to say it is very unlikely still, but our club is obviously well regarded within the England setup these days, and if they both keep their performances going until the end of the season, then you never know. I mentioned a while back on the JWP thread that he was my dark horse for getting a call up. There's usually at least 1 'wild card' pick in an England tournament squad and it wouldn't surprise me if JWP got the call. (don't get me wrong, I'm not expecting it to happen, just won't be surprised if it does, as JWP is one of the few players (to my knowledge) that Hodgson has openly mentioned when asked about young(er) players that are on his radar) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 I got confirmation today - all tickets up to and including the final. Don't even know if I can make them all yet but I have a few things booked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 Hart/Butland/Forster Clyne/Walker, Bertrand/Baines, Stones/Smalling/Jagielka/Cahill AOC/Walcott, Henderson/Dier, Barkley/Alli, Townsend/Sterling Kane/Rooney/Vardy/Sturridge Having said that, is Roy actually going to leave out Delph and Milner (he is very loyal) in favour of Ali and Dier? LOLana/Townsend is an interesting choice. Very different players, but both played a fair bit under Roy. I have to say our centre backs still worry me. We should have taken Stones to the World Cup. Jangielka is never international class. Also, forget the recent errors by Stones (and of course putting to one side how good he is on the ball), IMO his positional play leaves a lot to be desired. The number of times he (like Jagielka) gets stuck under a crossed ball is scary. But who else is there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 I mentioned a while back on the JWP thread that he was my dark horse for getting a call up. There's usually at least 1 'wild card' pick in an England tournament squad and it wouldn't surprise me if JWP got the call. (don't get me wrong, I'm not expecting it to happen, just won't be surprised if it does, as JWP is one of the few players (to my knowledge) that Hodgson has openly mentioned when asked about young(er) players that are on his radar) It would surprise me. Who would be dropped to fit him in? There would need to be some injuries... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 It would surprise me. Who would be dropped to fit him in? There would need to be some injuries... Yep, quite probably. That said, there have been surprise omissions in the past. The 2006 World Cup springs to mind as one relatively recent example.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2006/teams/england/4983618.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berudenot2 Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 Targett is no where near good enough - that's not to say he couldn't be in 2-3 years - and JWP will only be considered if he starts scoring from open play. What this thread already highlights is that for the first time in quite a while we have a pretty decent group of players and whoever the 11 is that starts there will some quality in the bench. We could win it but I think this will be a good euros regardless! Win it !! You are either deluded or an eternal optimist or on a windup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 Rodriguez will be fit before the end of the season and will bang in hattricks every game. He goes! Seriously though, how many injuries would Holland need before Stekelenberg got back in? :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 Rooney out for around 2 months. you watch England look decent in the games he misses then he walks straight back in. Captain fantastic and all that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkboy Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 Rooney out for around 2 months. you watch England look decent in the games he misses then he walks straight back in. Captain fantastic and all that You just know this is what will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 Would love to see Forster Clyne Stones Cahill Bertrand Dier Alli Vardy Barkley Sterling Kane Will probably be: Hart Jones Smalling Jagielka Baines Henderson Carrick AOC Rooney Welbeck Sturridge Why would you put Vardy on the wing? He's completely ineffective there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 Hart/Butland/Forster Clyne/Walker, Bertrand/Baines, Stones/Smalling/Jagielka/Cahill AOC/Walcott, Henderson/Dier, Barkley/Alli, Townsend/Sterling Kane/Rooney/Vardy/Sturridge Having said that, is Roy actually going to leave out Delph and Milner (he is very loyal) in favour of Ali and Dier? LOLana/Townsend is an interesting choice. Very different players, but both played a fair bit under Roy. I have to say our centre backs still worry me. We should have taken Stones to the World Cup. Jangielka is never international class. Also, forget the recent errors by Stones (and of course putting to one side how good he is on the ball), IMO his positional play leaves a lot to be desired. The number of times he (like Jagielka) gets stuck under a crossed ball is scary. But who else is there? This is near enough what it'll be i reckon, injuries aside. He will take Delph though, he seems to like him. And Shelvey perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 Some England players in the reckoning to go to France (and Phil Jones ha) were modelling the England suits today, and pulling off dodgy poses. http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/england-stars-harry-kane-dele-alli-gary-cahill-and-kieran-gibbs-model-new-marks-spencer-euro-2016-a3182776.html#gallery Would Bertrand necessarily go? There's a lot of competition in that position in Baines, Gibbs (who like Bertrand modelled) and Rose (who has had a decent season.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsmonkey Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 I would like to see a high energy counter attacking 3-5-2 formation, ------------------Hart---------------------- --------Stones Smalling Bertrand-------- Clyne----------------------------------Rose ---------Henderson---Milner--------------- ------------------Rooney------------------- ----------Kane----------Vardy-------------- Subs: Forster,Butland,Walker,Dier,Cahill,Gibbs,Alli,Drinkwater,Barkley,Sturridge,Sterling,Walcott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 This is near enough what it'll be i reckon, injuries aside. He will take Delph though, he seems to like him. And Shelvey perhaps. Delph offers energy, but instead who, Dier? Shelves won't go unless we get a host of injuries. For me he's a liability if played in a deep role. Touch not good enough and gets caught in possession. He has play further forward and in Barkley, Ali and Rooney we have better options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 Rooney out for 6 weeks injured......may effect his place in the England squad.....he will miss the friendlies leading upto the championships.....good news all round then. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 I would like to see a high energy counter attacking 3-5-2 formation, ------------------Hart---------------------- --------Stones Smalling Bertrand-------- Clyne----------------------------------Rose ---------Henderson---Milner--------------- ------------------Rooney------------------- ----------Kane----------Vardy-------------- Subs: Forster,Butland,Walker,Dier,Cahill,Gibbs,Alli,Drinkwater,Barkley,Sturridge,Sterling,Walcott Like this against the top sides that may retain the ball against us. Works well for saints. Not sure Clyne quite has enough on the ball to play wing back. So one footed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 Seriously though, how many injuries would Holland need before Stekelenberg got back in? :-) Stekelenburg has already got himself back in the Dutch squad based on his performances for Saints. However Netherlands have not qualified. Rooney out for around 2 months. you watch England look decent in the games he misses then he walks straight back in. Captain fantastic and all that I think it's remarkably coincidental that Rooney disappears off the face of the earth literally days after Hodgson says on national tv that Rooney is his captain and is going to the Euros. With Man U not really playing for anything and Van Gaal probably looking for a reason to leave him out he's probably getting knee surgery so he's ready for the summer. Why would you put Vardy on the wing? He's completely ineffective there. He was pretty effective on the wing against Saints last season. I'm still waiting to see if UEFA take any money out of my account. Got hotels booked in Lille and Paris for the first week of the tournament, we're flying back the morning of the England v Wales match, unless we get tickets for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1Minus10 Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 Hodgson is going to **** it right up - it would be a miracle if he didn't. That MOTD interview was so depressing. We actually have the players to do well but he won't use them. None of Milner, Henderson, Carrick, Jones, Welbeck should be in the squad but a load of them will be and probably three of those will start. Out of form players like Cahill, Chamberlain and Walcott will go and in form players like Dier and Vardy probably won't. Vardy will be up against Welbeck for a place and he'll lose out if that's the case. Rooney injury just means that he'll be unfit for the tournament but he'll still play every game at the expense of Barkley. Hodgson has learnt absolutely nothing from the abysmal World Cup campaign. He could have used the easiest qualifying group in history to consign the likes of Milner and Carrick to the bin but you just know he'll arrive at the tournament and it'll be safety first - use the tried and failed. My money is on Stones being picked at right back. From a Saints perspective - Fraser will be 2nd choice and not get a game and Bertrand, though he should be first choice, won't even go as Baines (can't defend), Gibbs (never plays) and Rose (bang average) will be ahead of him. My predicted Hodgson team for the first game. --------------Hart Stones, Cahill, Smalling, Baines -------Carrick, Henderson Sterling, Rooney, Welbeck ------------Kane Rest of squad: Forster, Butland, Clyne, Rose, Jones, Milner, Alli, Lallana, Chamberlain, Walcott, Barkley, Sturridge Out: Jagielka, Bertrand, Shelvey, Dier, Vardy, Delph, Wilshere (injured) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 Hodgson is going to **** it right up - it would be a miracle if he didn't. That MOTD interview was so depressing. We actually have the players to do well but he won't use them. None of Milner, Henderson, Carrick, Jones, Welbeck should be in the squad but a load of them will be and probably three of those will start. Out of form players like Cahill, Chamberlain and Walcott will go and in form players like Dier and Vardy probably won't. Vardy will be up against Welbeck for a place and he'll lose out if that's the case. Rooney injury just means that he'll be unfit for the tournament but he'll still play every game at the expense of Barkley. Hodgson has learnt absolutely nothing from the abysmal World Cup campaign. He could have used the easiest qualifying group in history to consign the likes of Milner and Carrick to the bin but you just know he'll arrive at the tournament and it'll be safety first - use the tried and failed. My money is on Stones being picked at right back. From a Saints perspective - Fraser will be 2nd choice and not get a game and Bertrand, though he should be first choice, won't even go as Baines (can't defend), Gibbs (never plays) and Rose (bang average) will be ahead of him. My predicted Hodgson team for the first game. --------------Hart Stones, Cahill, Smalling, Baines -------Carrick, Henderson Sterling, Rooney, Welbeck ------------Kane Rest of squad: Forster, Butland, Clyne, Rose, Jones, Milner, Alli, Lallana, Chamberlain, Walcott, Barkley, Sturridge Out: Jagielka, Bertrand, Shelvey, Dier, Vardy, Delph, Wilshere (injured) Do we really have the players to do well? No doubt the likes of Barkley and Dier are only one tournament campaign away from being generally regarded as a waste of space and why don't we pick XXX instead. And so it goes on. Will be happy if we make the quarters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 I just don't want to see phill Jones at right back orMilner in the side and Rooney actually replaced if he continues his horrific tournament form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1Minus10 Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 If down to me.... Starting XI (4-1-3-2) Hart, Clyne, Bertrand, Shawcross, Stones; Dier, Alli; Barkley, Sterling; Vardy, Kane Rest of Squad Forster, Butland, Rose, Cahill, Smalling, Drinkwater, Delph, Walcott, Rooney, Sturrridge (or Welbeck), Lallana, Wilshere (or Shelvey) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 I just don't want to see phill Jones at right back orMilner in the side and Rooney actually replaced if he continues his horrific tournament form Kane needs to score twice in every single warm up game to keep Rooney out of the side. Probably Vardy and Kane need to score twice each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1Minus10 Posted 17 February, 2016 Share Posted 17 February, 2016 Do we really have the players to do well? No doubt the likes of Barkley and Dier are only one tournament campaign away from being generally regarded as a waste of space and why don't we pick XXX instead. And so it goes on. Will be happy if we make the quarters. The point is that Hodgson will ensure that we don't do as well as we should do. He won't get the best out of the resources at his disposal which is a large part of a managers job after all. I reckon that with a following wind we could make the quarters but even if he doesn't in the group games, as soon as we play someone decent he'll pick all his old 'reliables' and it'll be like World Cup 2014 never happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 18 February, 2016 Share Posted 18 February, 2016 Can someone, please, tell me the point in Jordan Henderson? He's so frustratingly ****e. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 18 February, 2016 Share Posted 18 February, 2016 Can someone, please, tell me the point in Jordan Henderson? He's so frustratingly ****e. He ticks all the boxes. English and Liverpool skipper. Guaranteed to get picked. Much like sitting in the bench at United I can see lingard having a huge chance of going to the euros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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