Saint86 Posted 11 February, 2016 Share Posted 11 February, 2016 The money seems to have gone crazy lately in the prem.... Vardy signing for 80k per week, Payet getting £125k per week *****il he is 34!). One of those two clubs has already breached FFP, the other will surely breach it now and how are they able to add that much to their wage bills in one chunk? I thought FFP prevents clubs from increasing their wage bill too much in one season?!?! How do we feel as saints fans? I am actually pleased with our wage structure and not having any players on more than 50k (According to FM 2016 granted)... I don't think the money can last forever and we seem to be signing players that are young, try hard and are in it for more than just the money? But can we compete? Everton are about to announce a multi million pound takeover my Americans, West Ham are splashing silly money, as our teams like Newcastle, stoke and Leicester... Where do saints sit within this as I can never see us offering 125k within the next couple of years! And I am pleased about that as well. It is just a total detachment from the modern fan and wrong frankly. Rather than paying that kinda wage they could be dropping ticket prices to £10 for example... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 11 February, 2016 Share Posted 11 February, 2016 I suspect that Leicester have room in their ffp allowance for one or two players on 4 mil a year. Our wage cap is not 2.5 mil a year. We pay well - Austin would have waited until he was a free agent if we weren't very very competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 11 February, 2016 Share Posted 11 February, 2016 With all these extra £billions coming into the PL...and going straight into the already mega-rich players pockets...let's hope some of these new fat contracts aren't too long because if this breakaway European Super League comes off, that's where the TV money will be going. It could leave every club outside the 'Big Six' in financial meltdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 11 February, 2016 Share Posted 11 February, 2016 With all these extra £billions coming into the PL...and going straight into the already mega-rich players pockets...let's hope some of these new fat contracts aren't too long because if this breakaway European Super League comes off, that's where the TV money will be going. It could leave every club outside the 'Big Six' in financial meltdown. I think there is a huge over estimation of the public interest on a European Super League. But if the top six go off to it, fair enough. See ya. Personally, I would have a passing interest but not much, but I am someone who is only interested in the CL when there's an English team in it late on, much like Andy Murray in the US Open. Oh, the semis is it? Go on, then. EuroMegaLeague? Couldn't give a monkeys. But, Saints vs Villa vs Leeds vs Newcastle vs Forest vs Sheffield Weds vs West Ham vs Derby in the English Premier League? Yep, sign me up for twenty odd years of that and I'd happily never watch a Chelsea or Manchester City match ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 February, 2016 Share Posted 12 February, 2016 With all these extra £billions coming into the PL...and going straight into the already mega-rich players pockets...let's hope some of these new fat contracts aren't too long because if this breakaway European Super League comes off, that's where the TV money will be going. It could leave every club outside the 'Big Six' in financial meltdown. A break away super league is not going to happen. People have been predicting this for 10+ years and in that time, the premier league bubble was going to burst. Not happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 12 February, 2016 Share Posted 12 February, 2016 I think there is a huge over estimation of the public interest on a European Super League. But if the top six go off to it, fair enough. See ya. Personally, I would have a passing interest but not much, but I am someone who is only interested in the CL when there's an English team in it late on, much like Andy Murray in the US Open. Oh, the semis is it? Go on, then. EuroMegaLeague? Couldn't give a monkeys. But, Saints vs Villa vs Leeds vs Newcastle vs Forest vs Sheffield Weds vs West Ham vs Derby in the English Premier League? Yep, sign me up for twenty odd years of that and I'd happily never watch a Chelsea or Manchester City match ever again. Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 12 February, 2016 Share Posted 12 February, 2016 I've got no stomach what so ever for a Euro Super League but if it does ever come off, and this suggests it could be getting closer http://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/idUKKCN0VI1GO?irpc=932 Then there's only one place the big TV revenue is going. English football would then be a better place for an old git like me, but that's only if what's left aren't all going bankrupt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Kerplunk Posted 12 February, 2016 Share Posted 12 February, 2016 Any talk of a European super league is leverage to get more money from uefa for the champions league. A super league would likely fail as soon as Man Utd or any other realise they might go 15 years or more without winning anything if they split from their country's league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 12 February, 2016 Share Posted 12 February, 2016 Could most of the best players end up in China? Cant believe they are offering Rooney a reported £500k a week, and he's one of the **** ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 12 February, 2016 Share Posted 12 February, 2016 I think there is a huge over estimation of the public interest on a European Super League. But if the top six go off to it, fair enough. See ya. Personally, I would have a passing interest but not much, but I am someone who is only interested in the CL when there's an English team in it late on, much like Andy Murray in the US Open. Oh, the semis is it? Go on, then. EuroMegaLeague? Couldn't give a monkeys. But, Saints vs Villa vs Leeds vs Newcastle vs Forest vs Sheffield Weds vs West Ham vs Derby in the English Premier League? Yep, sign me up for twenty odd years of that and I'd happily never watch a Chelsea or Manchester City match ever again. Exactly this. Let this mega league go and make all their masses of cash playing against the Chinese champions. Most people won't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 12 February, 2016 Share Posted 12 February, 2016 Could most of the best players end up in China? Cant believe they are offering Rooney a reported £500k a week, and he's one of the **** ones. Couldn't care less if they do! I don't see a panic or worry like Wenger etc do, let all the mercenaries f**k off, we may end up with a league full of British players again, which may lead to a more competitive England team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 12 February, 2016 Share Posted 12 February, 2016 The popularity of English football within this country has nothing to do with having the best players. The popularity of English football outside this country has a bit to do with having the best players. If we lost the great players that play in England to a nation like China we'd lose income in the game but the fans wouldn't stop supporting their team so I don't really care much from a Saints perspective. Our support is not reliant on foreign fans like other clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 12 February, 2016 Share Posted 12 February, 2016 If there was a European Super League would the broadcasting money follow this leaving the English National League clubs with far less revenue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted 12 February, 2016 Share Posted 12 February, 2016 I suspect that Leicester have room in their ffp allowance for one or two players on 4 mil a year. Our wage cap is not 2.5 mil a year. We pay well - Austin would have waited until he was a free agent if we weren't very very competitive. or he just wants to get some game time / show what he can do for this years euros... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 12 February, 2016 Share Posted 12 February, 2016 If there was a European Super League would the broadcasting money follow this leaving the English National League clubs with far less revenue? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted 12 February, 2016 Share Posted 12 February, 2016 I suppose the only thing that the super league would bring is that 'the best of the rest' begins to actually mean somthing. if arsenal, city and chelsea are all playing in european league there's a realistic chance that clubs like everton and saints could finish top 3 and go up. though I'm sure the decision makers will try hard to keep clubs like ours out of their esteemed competition main problem , like with everything football these days, is it only favours those with cash to spend. everyday hardworking season ticket holders who sing their hearts out week after week won't be able to afford going off to spain and turkey every fortnight. only a select few rich folks will be able to actually attend away games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 12 February, 2016 Share Posted 12 February, 2016 If there was a European Super League would the broadcasting money follow this leaving the English National League clubs with far less revenue? Only if those clubs participating in any ESL actually left the domestic game in order to participate, of which there's no guarantee, and I'd probably actually argue the clubs wouldn't see that move as beneficial to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 12 February, 2016 Share Posted 12 February, 2016 or he just wants to get some game time / show what he can do for this years euros... Nice thought, but the reality is we waved the cash. The deal including transfer fee, wages, agents, signing on fee, caulker release is £20m+ We punch above our weight in the transfer market (Gaston, Osvaldo, Van Dijk, Forster, Austin). These players don't come here for the sea air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted 12 February, 2016 Share Posted 12 February, 2016 Nice thought, but the reality is we waved the cash. The deal including transfer fee, wages, agents, signing on fee, caulker release is £20m+ We punch above our weight in the transfer market (Gaston, Osvaldo, Van Dijk, Forster, Austin). These players don't come here for the sea air. surely you'd say they come here because they want to play in the premiership. sure, the money is a bigger-than-we'd-like-to-admit factor, but we are a solid club with aspirations to be top 8, good squad, good manager. it's not just the cash in reality. none of those players would go straight into top 3 teams, mainly because the likes of chelsea and city are going to buy bigger name players and splash the cash on lads that have already proven themselves at another club in the prem...e.g. saints. I was quite surprised arsenal went in for that eleny lad from switzerland. not a big name, not a big transfer fee, just 5m or so midfielder that goes almost straight into arsenal starting line up. that's not the norm for big clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100%Red&White Posted 12 February, 2016 Share Posted 12 February, 2016 Football's on the change again, China the US, Europe may have to develop a 'Super League' to keep up, the TV companies want a global audience, that's where the future (and big money deals) are for them. Horrible thought, but for most of us, it may see a bit of normality return to the English game, albeit with casualties along the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 12 February, 2016 Share Posted 12 February, 2016 The money seems to have gone crazy lately in the prem.... Vardy signing for 80k per week, Payet getting £125k per week *****il he is 34!). One of those two clubs has already breached FFP, the other will surely breach it now and how are they able to add that much to their wage bills in one chunk? I thought FFP prevents clubs from increasing their wage bill too much in one season?!?! How do we feel as saints fans? I am actually pleased with our wage structure and not having any players on more than 50k (According to FM 2016 granted)... I don't think the money can last forever and we seem to be signing players that are young, try hard and are in it for more than just the money? But can we compete? Everton are about to announce a multi million pound takeover my Americans, West Ham are splashing silly money, as our teams like Newcastle, stoke and Leicester... Where do saints sit within this as I can never see us offering 125k within the next couple of years! And I am pleased about that as well. It is just a total detachment from the modern fan and wrong frankly. Rather than paying that kinda wage they could be dropping ticket prices to £10 for example... I think you will find he is 28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 12 February, 2016 Share Posted 12 February, 2016 I think you will find he is 28 I think he means he will be getting that until he is 34. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 12 February, 2016 Author Share Posted 12 February, 2016 I think he means he will be getting that until he is 34. I did, than you dig dig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 12 February, 2016 Share Posted 12 February, 2016 The problem is players , Agents and foreign clubs know the premier league is about to become flush and they will want their slice ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 12 February, 2016 Share Posted 12 February, 2016 If there was a European Super League would the broadcasting money follow this leaving the English National League clubs with far less revenue? Only if it wasn't a qualifying competition, or certain clubs qualified automatically. I don't even watch Champions League games, so my interest in a Euro League would be practically non-existent without Saints in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 12 February, 2016 Share Posted 12 February, 2016 The money seems to have gone crazy lately in the prem.... Vardy signing for 80k per week, Payet getting £125k per week *****il he is 34!). One of those two clubs has already breached FFP, the other will surely breach it now and how are they able to add that much to their wage bills in one chunk? I thought FFP prevents clubs from increasing their wage bill too much in one season?!?!. They won't because the Prem tv money is an increase in revenue which also increases the amount teams are allowed to spend on player wages. Everyone is getting it, so the whole lot goes up. As for "I like our wage structure", you won't if we miss out on all of our targets for next season because Bournemouth or Middlesbrough are paying them more. This is why I've been harping on about us trying to buy early and tie players to lower wage deals before the roof blows off it, but now Vardy and Payet have got good new deals everyone will be at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey Posted 12 February, 2016 Share Posted 12 February, 2016 I think there is a huge over estimation of the public interest on a European Super League. But if the top six go off to it, fair enough. See ya. Personally, I would have a passing interest but not much, but I am someone who is only interested in the CL when there's an English team in it late on, much like Andy Murray in the US Open. Oh, the semis is it? Go on, then. EuroMegaLeague? Couldn't give a monkeys. But, Saints vs Villa vs Leeds vs Newcastle vs Forest vs Sheffield Weds vs West Ham vs Derby in the English Premier League? Yep, sign me up for twenty odd years of that and I'd happily never watch a Chelsea or Manchester City match ever again. Count me in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djharvey Posted 12 February, 2016 Share Posted 12 February, 2016 Charlie Austin is on £113k a week. Reliable source and no I won't say who. Believe it or not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 12 February, 2016 Share Posted 12 February, 2016 Charlie Austin is on £113k a week. Reliable source and no I won't say who. Believe it or not! The highlighted option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JxgrSaint Posted 12 February, 2016 Share Posted 12 February, 2016 Charlie Austin is on £113k a week. Reliable source and no I won't say who. Believe it or not! Alright David, you've had your fun. Now get back to shifting some porń and bribing your way to free stadiums... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djharvey Posted 12 February, 2016 Share Posted 12 February, 2016 The highlighted option. How about £116k then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 12 February, 2016 Share Posted 12 February, 2016 Ha, if we were paying Austin anything like that then we would have been royally mugged - he is worth nowhere near that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 12 February, 2016 Share Posted 12 February, 2016 Charlie Austin is on £113k a week. Reliable source and no I won't say who. Believe it or not! Plumber who saw the contract and told his best mate down the pub, who is a taxi driver, who told a passenger, who is your mate. Yeah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djharvey Posted 12 February, 2016 Share Posted 12 February, 2016 Plumber who saw the contract and told his best mate down the pub, who is a taxi driver, who told a passenger, who is your mate. Yeah? A £10million player at £85k a week would cost a similar amount over the period of the contract. I know it's a huge amount but I think a lot of people would say it's realistic for us to spend that on a prolific striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 12 February, 2016 Share Posted 12 February, 2016 £113k is a lot of money for someone with no ligament in his ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 13 February, 2016 Share Posted 13 February, 2016 The Champions League is as dull as ditchwater, as would a ESL be too. They were predicting a breakaway ESL since the 80s. Just like they always say we will put a man on Mars in the next decade, every decade since the 70s, and the oil was gonna run out by 2000... China? Be like Major League Soccer, a big paycheck for over the hill stars before they retire to horseracing. You can't buy history, culture and passion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 13 February, 2016 Share Posted 13 February, 2016 The lack of terrestrial coverage of CL is not helping. 400k or so for a BT free game. Compared with 5m odd watching on ITV. Not going to help Gazprom sales. Which reminds me I am running low so need to buy some more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JxgrSaint Posted 13 February, 2016 Share Posted 13 February, 2016 The Champions League is as dull as ditchwater, as would a ESL be too. They were predicting a breakaway ESL since the 80s. Just like they always say we will put a man on Mars in the next decade, every decade since the 70s, and the oil was gonna run out by 2000... China? Be like Major League Soccer, a big paycheck for over the hill stars before they retire to horseracing. You can't buy history, culture and passion. For £500k a week after tax you can buy pretty much anything you like. Wouldn't be surprised to see Ronaldo going there for something mental like £1m a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 13 February, 2016 Share Posted 13 February, 2016 I did, than you dig dig My bad, I did think you couldn't think he looked that old [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] I expect him to have 2nd season syndrome and then become crap for the remainder of his contract Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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