HKsaint Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 Didn't watch MOTD, but I have no problem with them focussing on United. They really were terrible, and with a better performance we wouldn't have needed a last minute set piece goal. This wasn't like last season, where we had to scrap for every touch of the ball. We had to stay solid when they did come at us (and we were very good) but it didn't take a masterclass. We'd all rather watch a big club playing badly than a midtable club playing pretty well and getting a result. Agree with this, last season it felt we earned the victory through an incredible defensive performance. Even though our goal was later this season, and we probably didn't look as threatening going forward, defensively we seemed pretty comfortable, which you never really expect at Old Trafford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 Just found a wi-fi spot to get the results. Embarrassed myself in a wine bar with a loud shout when I read the thread title... :) I'm staying for a few more... Sue, Is this wi-Fi spot the new G Spot? ... sounds like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 Sue, Is this wi-Fi spot the new G Spot? ... sounds like it You know where the G spot is for woman? at the end of shoppinG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singapore Saint Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 Yes. Saw it described as a 'free header', and so it might have been, but Pelle would most likely have hit the post, Long headed over. And just for £4m as well. How much have Brendan and Van Gaal spent on forwards in the last two seasons ? Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 (edited) Just having a read through the post-match thread on redcafe. If you think this forum is full of bedwetting drama queens, go and have a read of United's... http://www.redcafe.net/threads/post-match-manchester-united-vs-southampton.413832/ These are a couple of the best quotes I have found so far... "Schneiderlin looks half the player he did at Southampton. " Let's buy him back for 12.5 million then. Behave Tadic's role is not to run around like a headless Chicken but to create chances which his does. Remind me, who has the headless chicken role for Southampton? Edited 24 January, 2016 by Redslo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brizzie Saints Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 Highlights https://vid.me/0RVZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 Sport is all about moments. That Austin moment will live with me forever, like Rickie's England goal. Decent display from Wanyama, let's keep that going eh Vic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Biscuits Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 The one thing I like about Wanyama most of all is that while he appears to make a clear decision to get on with things after matters don't go his way. I do wish he wouldn't throw these wobblers though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 I have been silenced. We live in hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 Great header and result! When oh when will Referees punish Smalling for persistent shirt pulling?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 https://grabyo.com/g/v/EROLIc27xKL This is a good watch! Thanks for that Charlie, (your name is going to be more popular now..eh?) Shows reality after the game rather than the 20 seconds of TV time. Players and Koeman going to salute the away fans, and even saw Man U fans clapping Saints off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 Great header and result! When oh when will Referees punish Smalling for persistent shirt pulling?? When he gets a transfer to a "little" club like Saints Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 Mane is not the answer for Man United. I really wish that he realises that Southampton is his level. He has incredible feet and speed, but at the moment his lack of confidence means we fail to capitalise on good attacking opportunities. Make no mistake this was a phenomenal performance, in that we limited Man United to one shot on goal in the entire match. It wasn't that they were so bad, but a measure of how well we pressed and fought for every ball. Wanyama was at the heart of our solidity and whilst Clasie was also excellent, Wanyama did it for 90 minutes and had to be man of the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Jude Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 Man of the match for me... The saints fans... I was 'lucky' enough to be in a box in the Alex Ferguson stand... But not allowed to celebrate given surrounded by Man U fans. OT was so quiet... I know OT was pretty quiet, but could constantly hear the Saints fans....Charlie Austin's goal was almost surpassed (it wasn't)... By being able to hear the 'Who the F*** are man Utd' all the way round the ground! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 This. Typical motd ****e. Saints merely a footnote. It's all about the glory clubs, look at Leicester they're top of the table and still getting patronised. F*** the beeb. It's not just the bbc. I bet there won't be many newspaper or online headlines this morning about how great Saints were, they'll all be about lvg and a poor utd performance. I guess a few of them might highlight charlie austins debut goal, if we're lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 It's not just the bbc. I bet there won't be many newspaper or online headlines this morning about how great Saints were, they'll all be about lvg and a poor utd performance. I guess a few of them might highlight charlie austins debut goal, if we're lucky. Because we weren't great. We were solid defensively but as Koeman rightly pointed out, our attacking play was very average. With 10 minutes to go I was irritated because I could see how awful United were but it didn't look as if we would punish them for it. thankfully Austin got us the goal and we won, but we have played much better than that this season and lost. the story of the game WAS just how appalling Man Utd are at the moment, despite spending obscene amounts of money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 Mane is not the answer for Man United. I really wish that he realises that Southampton is his level. He has incredible feet and speed, but at the moment his lack of confidence means we fail to capitalise on good attacking opportunities. Make no mistake this was a phenomenal performance, in that we limited Man United to one shot on goal in the entire match. It wasn't that they were so bad, but a measure of how well we pressed and fought for every ball. Wanyama was at the heart of our solidity and whilst Clasie was also excellent, Wanyama did it for 90 minutes and had to be man of the match. it really was not. We never had to play that well to win. very good defensively, granted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 Because we weren't great. We were solid defensively but as Koeman rightly pointed out, our attacking play was very average. With 10 minutes to go I was irritated because I could see how awful United were but it didn't look as if we would punish them for it. thankfully Austin got us the goal and we won, but we have played much better than that this season and lost. the story of the game WAS just how appalling Man Utd are at the moment, despite spending obscene amounts of money I know. I was pointing out that there's no reason to vilify the bbc for saying exactly that, it's what happened and they reported fairly on motd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 Because we weren't great. We were solid defensively but as Koeman rightly pointed out, our attacking play was very average. With 10 minutes to go I was irritated because I could see how awful United were but it didn't look as if we would punish them for it. thankfully Austin got us the goal and we won, but we have played much better than that this season and lost. the story of the game WAS just how appalling Man Utd are at the moment, despite spending obscene amounts of money dont be a ****. the story of the game was clearly austin sciring on his debut with his second touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasper57saint Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 Yeah MOTD was pathetic. At least it highlighted the shirt pulling and wrestling by Manure defenders time after time and they got away with it.As far as the actual report on Saints are you surprised? I don't care what MOTD overpaid pundits say,we beat the Mancs and they don’t like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 (edited) Where van Gaal got it wrong and Koeman won - was the willingness to change formation. We look a totally different side with the changed formation. However this came about - it works. 3-5-2 makes sense as you don't need a " permanent back four " when attacks can only come from one side of play at a time. The new wing backs simply revert to a defensive role - when the run of play requires it. On paper MU have some of the best players in Europe. Aside from Charlie's " Roy of the Rovers " contribution, we have the same squad but look a totally different outfit. If we can work this again - against Arsenal - I'll be totally convinced. This last 10 days have been a total revelation. Matt Targett is a genuine threat on the left, and JWP finally proved that he can DAJFU. Clasie begins to look real quality. Edited 24 January, 2016 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 However far MUFC fall from their peak under Ferguson, the sheer unadulterated joy at seeing our little club beat them - and by extension give all their irremediably plastic fans everywhere something to think about - will for me never fade. It won't last for ever of course because sooner or later that hugely wealthy club will throw so much money at the problem that they're almost bound to buy a level of sustained success. But it still feels ferking great this morning methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 At least it highlighted the shirt pulling and wrestling by Manure defenders time after time and they got away with it.As far as the actual report on Saints are you surprised? I don't care what MOTD overpaid pundits say,we beat the Mancs and they don’t like it. When we were last seasons leicester they were all for us, iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFKA South Woodford Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 I'm a grown man but i was close to crying when Austin scored.....i so hate United and their plastic fans who believe they have a divine right to beat everyone! You've obviously never met a Liverpool fan then. Worse than them though are the West Ham fans who were saying 'we shouldn't be losing to small carp team's like southampton' when we mashed them at Upton park last season at least United and Liverpool have pedigree & history on their side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 Where van Gaal got it wrong and Koeman won - was the willingness to change formation. We look a totally different side with the changed formation. However this came about - it works. 3-5-2 makes sense as you don't need a " permanent back four " when attacks can only come from one side of play at a time. The new wing backs simply revert to a defensive role - when the run of play requires it. On paper MU have some of the best players in Europe. Aside from Charlie's " Roy of the Rovers " contribution, we have the same squad but look a totally different outfit. If we can work this again - against Arsenal - I'll be totally convinced. This last 10 days have been a total revelation. Matt Targett is a genuine threat on the left, and JWP finally proved that he can DAJFU. Clasie begins to look real quality. Great summary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 Do you think Smalling managed to get VvD's shirt after the game, he certainly wanted it during the game. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 it really was not. We never had to play that well to win. very good defensively, granted Please read the entire sentence and then by all means give your opinion on that. AD said that it was a phenomenal performance in that we limited them to one shot on goal in the entire match. Do you disagree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamiSaint Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 Why didn't motd show the romeu shot? Given that there were only three shots on target, and it was a neat bit of play...More interesting than a mouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 Do you think Smalling managed to get VvD's shirt after the game, he certainly wanted it during the game. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk It would be nice to think that having seen post-match video evidence of this form of cheating, that the FA would grow a pair and issue an edict to referees that it isn't acceptable and that in future more stringent action will be taken to stamp it out, with punishment meted out after the match if not seen during the match. I won't hold my breath though, especially when we are talking about the serial offender being an England defender playing for the biggest glory club at Old Trafford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 Why didn't motd show the romeu shot? Given that there were only three shots on target, and it was a neat bit of play...More interesting than a mouse Because it was us who carved out the chance. Had it been United, then it would have been shown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 It would be nice to think that having seen post-match video evidence of this form of cheating, that the FA would grow a pair and issue an edict to referees that it isn't acceptable and that in future more stringent action will be taken to stamp it out, with punishment meted out after the match if not seen during the match. I won't hold my breath though, especially when we are talking about the serial offender being an England defender playing for the biggest glory club at Old Trafford. Retrospective action is needed. What shall we go for, a one match ban? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 Seriously, can someone tell me what constitutes a penalty from corners? I genuinely don't know anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 Retrospective action is needed. What shall we go for, a one match ban? No, an execution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 No, an execution. A bit extreme, surely? Just chopping a hand off should be sufficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 Retrospective action is needed. What shall we go for, a one match ban? That seems reasonable to me. It would not be as effective as a referee having the balls to award a penalty during the match, but it would otherwise be an effective retribution that would get the message across. Otherwise, make the players wear mittens and that way they won't be able to grab a handful of shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 A bit extreme, surely? Just chopping a hand off should be sufficient. I like the idea of segmented shirts, joined with velcro. When pulled like Smalling was doing, then that segment would come away in his hand, let him defend that to the ref. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick1976.4.38 Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 Great header and result! When oh when will Referees punish Smalling for persistent shirt pulling?? if it doesn't happen soon,at the euros England will get punished for it cant believe the ref never pulled him for it,it was everytime on vvd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintStinger Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 On paper MU have some of the best players in Europe. Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 The shirt-pulling by Smalling justified at least two penalties. As a tactic that is clearly being condoned, maybe even encouraged , by coaches it is long overdue time for the FA to take action. Players should not have to fall to the ground to draw attention to an act that is blatant obstruction and impeding of an opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 A bit extreme, surely? Just chopping a hand off should be sufficient. On reflection WG, you're right. It would also prevent the players from being such w*nkers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr27 Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 (edited) The shirt-pulling by Smalling justified at least two penalties. As a tactic that is clearly being condoned, maybe even encouraged , by coaches it is long overdue time for the FA to take action. Players should not have to fall to the ground to draw attention to an act that is blatant obstruction and impeding of an opponent. It was the same last season - he was constantly grabbing Pelle in the box - I should think Fonte would have had pointed it out to the ref (if Rooney can be in the referee's face every five minutes....) Edited 24 January, 2016 by markr27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devonsaint Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 Great header and result! When oh when will Referees punish Smalling for persistent shirt pulling??�� Mike Dean gave one against him a couple of weeks ago. I was hoping he'd set an example for others to follow but obviously not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 Seriously, can someone tell me what constitutes a penalty from corners? I genuinely don't know anymore. There was a moment in the match commentary when the 'tater said "That would be a foul in any other part of the pitch". When did they change the rules for play within the penalty area ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 There was a moment in the match commentary when the 'tater said "That would be a foul in any other part of the pitch". When did they change the rules for play within the penalty area ? agree. Generally, the officials have been poor AGAIN this season Just seen some bizarre decisions during the WBA/Villa game on Goals on Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 At least it highlighted the shirt pulling and wrestling by Manure defenders time after time and they got away with it.As far as the actual report on Saints are you surprised? I don't care what MOTD overpaid pundits say,we beat the Mancs and they don’t like it. Lineker is always has a good word to say about us and Shearer is always positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 Lineker always has a good word to say about us and Shearer is always positive. Very true SOG but I wonder who the fans can count on to highlight the shirt-pulling. The MotD commentator referred to Smalling's behaviour, twice I think, but the studio broadcast discussion did not. Whether Saints will include it in their report on the referee might be questionable as there may have been occasions when our own players have done the same thing. But whether or not our players do shirt-pull, the problem needs to be brought out and stamped on. As a serial offender, Smalling would be a very good place to start. Maybe the Echo should have a go, or some of us should e-mail the Echo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 Missed it at the game but Goals on Sunday showed a block on Long in the first half that was a clear penalty. Thought the referee was poor yesterday tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 If anyone can recall Rickie Lamberts shirt ripped from the V neck to half way down his chest from where Vidic was stuck to him like a magnet, the night we battered United and Fergie was very complimentary, then we should all know that shirt pulling in the box at OT is a perfectly acceptable part of the game, as long as the puller has a Red shirt on. I wish I could find the piece about a team, might be in South America, who's main strikers shirt was made out of that woven paper those cheap disposable boiler suits are made of, simply because every time they played against a certain opposition one of the defenders habitually got away with blatant shirt pulling without sanction. During the first half the strikers shirt was reduced to tatters and the ref actually booked him for not being suitably attired. Half time the manager went and had a word with the ref for being so stupid, second half striker, wearing a new paper shirt, in the box goes for the ball and the back of his shirt departs the rest of it, and the defender is caught standing there with the shirt in his hand, penalty given against him, stupidly he did it yet again and was red carded. At least yesterday when Jose had his shirt pulled as JWP whipped in the free kick, it stopped him getting up to the ball ahead of Charlie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 24 January, 2016 Share Posted 24 January, 2016 Don't know why players don't adopt the skin tight shirts. Most of them wear them underneath anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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