Southampton had the 22nd highest income in World football in the 2014/15 season

[Matthew Le God]

19th - Inter Milan - €164.8m

20th - West Ham - €160.9m

21st - Galatasaray - €159.1m

22nd - Southampton - €149.5m

http://www2.deloitte.com/content/dam...eague-2016.pdf

 

Will look even better once we benefit from the new TV deal next season.

 

 

[nta786]

could someone break down the numbers?

I.e. Matchday Income, Commerical Revenue etc

Would love to know.

[Doctoroncall]

Nine Premier League sides above us, earning more money makes it harder to get in the Euro spots though.

[shurlock]

Does that put us in the bottom 4 of the premier league or is delldays new catchphrase broken already?

 

???

 

Factually, it neither proves nor disproves it, though surely healthy revenue (and Deloitte's figures exclude transfer fees) means we can afford a bigger budget.

[VectisSaint]

Nine Premier League sides above us, earning more money makes it harder to get in the Euro spots though.

Exactly, and the next 7 places are also held by PL Clubs. Therefore this does not really gain us anything in terms of PL status. It is only meaningful if you look at it in a European perspective, where only the top 8 or 9 European Clubs (Real, Barca, Bayern, PSG, Dortmund, Roma, Juve & Inter) are above us. We should be a force in Europe, but that won't happen unless we qualify regularly - which means being top 6 or 7.

[The9]

Exactly, and the next 7 places are also held by PL Clubs. Therefore this does not really gain us anything in terms of PL status. It is only meaningful if you look at it in a European perspective, where only the top 8 or 9 European Clubs (Real, Barca, Bayern, PSG, Dortmund, Roma, Juve & Inter) are above us. We should be a force in Europe, but that won't happen unless we qualify regularly - which means being top 6 or 7.

 

We'll be able to buy players from all but the very top European clubs with the new money though, provided we can persuade them not to join the other Prem sides who can also do the same.

 

Of course as some of the revenue figure comes from League position it's important we stay above

 

23 Aston Villa 148.8

24 Leicester City 137.2

25 Sunderland 132.9

26 Swansea City 132.8

27 Stoke City 130.9

28 Crystal Palace 130.8

29 West Bromwich Albion 126.6

 

though Stoke, Palace and Leicester are going to be an ask this season. Then again, we could jump 5 places compared to the likes of Schalke, Dortmund, Milan, Inter and Atletico depending on how they do with European prize money.

Edited 21 January, 2016 by The9

[SuperSAINT]

We'll be able to buy players from all but the very top European clubs with the new money though, provided we can persuade them not to join the other Prem sides who can also do the same.

 

True.

 

Imagine a fair bit of the new TV deal needs to go back to Kat to pay-off those loans she provided us.

[The9]

True.

 

Imagine a fair bit of the new TV deal needs to go back to Kat to pay-off those loans she provided us.

 

I can't pretend to have been paying much attention but I was under the impression a pile of that was converted to equity anyway, so didn't need repaying.

[shurlock]

Nine Premier League sides above us, earning more money makes it harder to get in the Euro spots though.

 

Its more than that. Its the distribution of revenue that matters.

 

After Spurs, there's a nearly £90m drop off to the next side -Newcastle; whereas only £40m separates newcastle and the remaining prem clubs, including us.

 

Needless to say distances get even larger the further up you go -the gap between Man U and the nonelite clubs (i.e. newcastle to west brom, the lowest listed club) is close to £350m.

 

None of which is particularly surprising, though it appears MLG is none the wiser.

Edited 21 January, 2016 by shurlock

[SuperSAINT]

I can't pretend to have been paying much attention but I was under the impression a pile of that was converted to equity anyway, so didn't need repaying.

 

Possibly, I seem to recall Gareth Rogers saying that there was a plan in place to pay it off in the future (Which I assumed mean't "new tv deal!")

 

* Found the interview with Rodgers. £62.1m was the level of debt. (Owed largely to the shareholder, or to institutions backed by the shareholder")

 

"Going forward, that will seen to be reduced over time"

 

https://audioboom.com/boos/3668264-listen-southampton-chief-executive-gareth-rogers-talks-to-adam-blackmore-about-the-club-s-financial-report-for-2014-15

Edited 21 January, 2016 by SuperSAINT

[Goatboy]

And still not enough f*cking paper towels in the toilets.

[Batman]

Does that put us in the bottom 4 of the premier league or is delldays new catchphrase broken already?

 

it was Koeman who has brought it up more than once in public to the media.

[Dig Dig]

it was Koeman who has brought it up more than once in public to the media.

 

Plus Koeman was refering to transfer/wage budgets which has nothing to do with these income tables

[Griffo]

B*llocks to Europa league and getting knocked out of the cups. This is what REALLY matters in this day and age. Only won 1 major cup competition in our history, but this is something we can really celebrate.

[VectisSaint]

Plus Koeman was refering to transfer/wage budgets which has nothing to do with these income tables

Of course it doesn't, income wouldn't affect budgets at all, how silly.

[shurlock]

Of course it doesn't, income wouldn't affect budgets at all, how silly.

 

 

Did Dig Dig say 'affect'

 

As a matter of fact, these revenue tables say nothing about the size of our budget.

 

Of course, in principle, healthy revenues mean we can afford a bigger budget which makes Koeman's point all the more striking, if true,.

[Leicestersaint]

And still not enough f*cking paper towels in the toilets.

 

This needs to be underlined. The club is badly run on match days - especially on the Itchen south concourse where it is mayhem with hot-dog stalls etc in the way of queues for the toilets - and then there are no paper towels. I think the stadium is very badly run.

[Saint Mikey]

This needs to be underlined. The club is badly run on match days - especially on the Itchen south concourse where it is mayhem with hot-dog stalls etc in the way of queues for the toilets - and then there are no paper towels. I think the stadium is very badly run.

 

If it was fantastically run people would still find things to moan about. The club could set up a set-up a service where each customer was noshed off by a beauty before each match and people would still moan that some other matey's bird could deep-throat better...

[doddisalegend]

Great season tickets for a quid next season then

[SaintBobby]

At the range from Saints to West Brom (149m euros to 127m euros), would it be fair to say it's so "much of a muchness" that none of these 8 teams really have a measurable advantage over any other. The elements of luck, desirability of location, quality of local housing stock, having an international team mate who recommends the club etc might outweigh a financial advantage/disadvantage of £12mpa or so.

 

Competing with the very top teams over the long run is damned near impossible though. Man City could burn £100m a year as a laugh and still have much more money than Southampton.

[70's Mike]

List cannot be right "biggest community club in the world" are not on it

[Miltonaggro]

List cannot be right "biggest community club in the world" are not on it

 

They are on it, page 12234, sandwiched between AFC Chernobyl and the Jimmy Savile fan club first XI...

[cambsaint]

The disappointing fact is that we are £100 million behind Spurs and Liverpool. It is hard to see how we can make this up. We aren't going to be on Sky every week, and even more disappointing when we are our pitchside advertising doesn't look as if it brings much in.

I certainly don't want Saints to sell their soul to usurers and bookies who are only interested in money grabbing and causing hardship, so I can't see us picking up a really juicy sponsorship deal.

It is pretty certain that clubs in London will find it easier to get good sponsorship and the kit manufacturers are only ever going to give megabucks to clubs with a worldwide fanbase.

West Ham could massively increase their income when they move to sponsor friendly surroundings. Newcastle have an enormous local fanbase and high matchday income.

So the status quo looks pretty set, which means that our youth strategy is the way we have to go.

It is a shame though that Liebherr cranes won't give us a generous sponsorship.

Man City can be sponsored to the hilt by the national airline of the country of the owners and get away with it.

So the rich get richer and the top six remains very difficult to break into on a long-term basis.

Hopefully Spurs may suffer a setback in income when they move to Wembley for three years, but West Ham could easily jump up.