Verbal Kint Posted 5 January, 2009 Posted 5 January, 2009 Quote: "I hope Jan/Lowe has at least done some homework for United although i fear he will simply tell them to go out and play their total football and all will be fine. A proper manager will have noticed that Evra is suspended so O'Shea will probably be left back. John O'Shea is not that great there. He is all right foot and can be done for pace at times. Definitely the weak spot in their team, so whatever we do we have to play a naturally wide right player with pace who will have a go at him. I guess the only option is McLaggon. If he plays Smith on the right it will prove without doubt that he is completely tactically inept (although that has already been proven to be honest?. I'd like to see Gillett start as of all our midfielders he is one of the few who can get in players' faces and make life difficult. Euell alongside him to provide some experience and for his engine. James is a disaster at right back but we all know he will play so it makes it doubly important we get back to having a shape that provides some cover for him, especially against a side like united. I'm afraid Jan/Lowe that involves ditching the stupid formation that doesn't work with the players we have." Will someone please explain why your average football fan was able to spot what i did prior to the game but yet our manager is totally incapable of it? I would really like to know what the hell Jan was doing in training all last week. Our one chance yesterday came from a John O'Shea mistake. We should have been targeting him from the start, but instead we tried to play pretty football against Man Utd. Scandalous. Jan Port Vale OUT Rupert OUT Yesterday was embarrassing. United never got into 2nd gear.
Scudamore Posted 5 January, 2009 Posted 5 January, 2009 Port Vale are another football team...so not only is that not funny...it is utterly confusing... Probably explains why everyone's ignoring the thread...
MongoNeil Posted 5 January, 2009 Posted 5 January, 2009 What's this got to do with Port Vale, I'm confused...
Scudamore Posted 5 January, 2009 Posted 5 January, 2009 MongoNeil said: What's this got to do with Port Vale, I'm confused... But did you find it funny?
stardustonmyfeet Posted 5 January, 2009 Posted 5 January, 2009 Interesting points, but what does this have to do with Port Vale?
La BoIS Saint Posted 5 January, 2009 Posted 5 January, 2009 Exeter v Port Vale was called off on Saturday, probably where confusion has arisen.
Micky Posted 5 January, 2009 Posted 5 January, 2009 Phew - thank god for posts 2 - 6, I thought I had lost my marbles for a minute there...!!!
MongoNeil Posted 5 January, 2009 Posted 5 January, 2009 Scudamore said: But did you find it funny? Was I supposed to?
Scudamore Posted 5 January, 2009 Posted 5 January, 2009 MongoNeil said: Was I supposed to? Yes. It's a delicious play on words. Delicious like offal.
wadesmith Posted 5 January, 2009 Posted 5 January, 2009 What's Port Vale got to do with a saints message board?
Fowllyd Posted 5 January, 2009 Posted 5 January, 2009 Scudamore said: Yes. It's a delicious play on words. Delicious like offal. Liver is delicious, but I do draw the line at kidney.
Alain Perrin Posted 5 January, 2009 Posted 5 January, 2009 Oh... it's a joke - he's likening Poortvliet to Portvale, just like you can liken the posters name to Verbal.... well you get the idea. It shows what a difficult job Jan has at Saints. On one hand you say James is poor at RB (I agree), but in the same breath you say play experience as playing Kane Mclaggon instead of Smith (who you lambast as poor but who incidentally was responsible for the one solid chance we had). What more cover can you have for James? Surely 4-5-1 (packing the midfield) provides more cover than 4-4-2. I fail to see what switching to 4-4-2 (sorry 4-4-1) would have done to stem the tide. People seem to forget we played one of the strongest teams in the UK (World) and did so for 2/3rds of the match with 10 men. I am not trying to pretend we were great, clearly we were poor, but hindsight is a wonderful thing and it is easy to be an armchair manager.
rasher100 Posted 5 January, 2009 Posted 5 January, 2009 any team could have performed as we did yesterday. in fact most in the leagues below would have taken their chance and put in a much more spirited performance!
Golden Balls Posted 5 January, 2009 Posted 5 January, 2009 Although I dont agree too much with the 1st post. I do wonder if JP ever does his homework on other teams as it really doesn come accross that he doesn't...
team-saint Posted 5 January, 2009 Posted 5 January, 2009 Golden Balls said: Although I dont agree too much with the 1st post. I do wonder if JP ever does his homework on other teams as it really doesn come accross that he doesn't... he has said many times that he doesn't need to because it is only about how we play. :confused:
L1Minus10 Posted 5 January, 2009 Posted 5 January, 2009 You've only got to listen to one JP interview to know that he doesn't know his arse from a hole in the ground. No chance of him accurately scouting the opposition
trousers Posted 5 January, 2009 Posted 5 January, 2009 Alain Perrin said: I am not trying to pretend we were great, clearly we were poor, but hindsight is a wonderful thing and it is easy to be an armchair manager. Dubious play-on-words aside, I believe the original poster was highlighting his foresight rather than hindsight..... He makes a good point if one scratches the surface. There was no apparent tactical changes from the manager, sorry - coach, in selection of the team to play Man Utd. It was very much "this is what we do, so we'll carry on doing it regardless". The quality of the opposition is neither here nor there. It's the principle under discussion here. One word: Worrying.
Whitey Grandad Posted 6 January, 2009 Posted 6 January, 2009 We certainly didn't start with our best, most experienced team, as usual. In fact, the whole pattern of the game was just like a normal home league game, only more so if you get my drift.
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