hypochondriac Posted 16 January, 2016 Share Posted 16 January, 2016 Another gem off the production line? What's he been eating the last couple of games? Absolutely brilliant bursting runs that I haven't seen from him before and 2 assists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfp1 Posted 16 January, 2016 Share Posted 16 January, 2016 Keep him on the wing. Much better with less focus on defending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 16 January, 2016 Share Posted 16 January, 2016 Targett an absolute revelation and the fact we now have a good British isles core of players again Bertrand Targett JWP Davis Foster Long and soon Austin is why we now have a committed team again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 16 January, 2016 Share Posted 16 January, 2016 Good game - 2nd in a row Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 16 January, 2016 Share Posted 16 January, 2016 Targett actually had a decent game a week ago v Palace in the FA Cup too - although few seem to have noticed then. It may be that our ''five at the back'' system suites him as it allows the full backs more freedom to get forward, safe in knowledge that the three CB's are there to provide cover. It may also be that - at the grand old age of 20 - the manager's constant shouting at him has finally sunk in as he is clearly much more aware now of what he should be doing and when. Be that as it may, it is certainly good to see two of our academy products contributing again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintAndy14 Posted 16 January, 2016 Share Posted 16 January, 2016 Certainly seems to suit playing as a wing-back with space to run into up the line as opposed to a full-back in a back 4. Back-to-back excellent performances! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 January, 2016 Share Posted 16 January, 2016 He always seemed to lack confidence in the traditional left back position, but this new role seems to suit him down to the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 16 January, 2016 Share Posted 16 January, 2016 He always seemed to lack confidence in the traditional left back position, but this new role seems to suit him down to the ground. I think this is the answer. There's still the occasional wildly inaccurate cross but he can get stuck in now with less fear of the consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 16 January, 2016 Share Posted 16 January, 2016 (edited) He has looked good the last couple of games. I think he is a bit slow pace wise which meant as a normal LB if he went up field on attack he struggled to recover if the move broke down. With the extra cover in the 5 at the back system he has more confidence to get forward. Edited 16 January, 2016 by doddisalegend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 16 January, 2016 Share Posted 16 January, 2016 He's playing with a smile on his face - always a good sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 16 January, 2016 Share Posted 16 January, 2016 Was unlucky not to score today,been very impressive of late let's hope he can keep his place and get some games under his belt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 16 January, 2016 Share Posted 16 January, 2016 Targett actually had a decent game a week ago v Palace in the FA Cup too - although few seem to have noticed then. n. You have to be kidding? Zaha took the **** out of him in the second half, or was that your point that as part of a five man defence he looks decent? I certainly can't argue that he has played well having been pushed further forward, but he has a bloody long way to go before I'm going to be happy to see him play left back in a four up against the likes of Zaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintstr1 Posted 16 January, 2016 Share Posted 16 January, 2016 Give him a run in the team in this position, we might have another Gareth Bale on our hands. I can see likeness to a young GB, seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 16 January, 2016 Share Posted 16 January, 2016 I have to admit Targett has won me over, he is now looking like the real deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 16 January, 2016 Share Posted 16 January, 2016 He has been damn impressive in these last 2 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 16 January, 2016 Share Posted 16 January, 2016 Give him a run in the team in this position, we might have another Gareth Bale on our hands. I can see likeness to a young GB, seriously. That's ridiculous. Bale was throwing in Man of the Match performances as a 17 year old at left back. Target is going to have a good career but he's never going to be near Bale's level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 16 January, 2016 Share Posted 16 January, 2016 That's ridiculous. Bale was throwing in Man of the Match performances as a 17 year old at left back. Target is going to have a good career but he's never going to be near Bale's level. This, I'd be delighted if he got to Shaw's level but he'll never win a Balon D'Or which I suspect Bale will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 16 January, 2016 Share Posted 16 January, 2016 I have a friend who blew his chance to play pro football, he was at Bristol City then Villa and played against the Wallaces Matty and Shearer at academy level. He has an uncanny eye for players, I can say whatsits a bit of a tidy player, he will come back with shrewd observations about their game and point out their flaws....... Next time you watch said player it was frightening how much of what he said was true..... We went to Old Trafford together in the relegation season and his observations during the game and post match analysis driving home was fascinating and non of it Cobblers. Some time ago around the time Luke Shaw burst onto the scene he says to me "who's that left back of yours" Luke Shaw? "No not him, he's good but not that good" "Skinny Kid, hasn't played for your first team yet" Matty Targett? "That's the one, trust me he is very good, in fact he is one of those players who can't stop learning, he will be a better player than Shaw ever will be by miles when he develops". With this in mind I have had a very open mind when watching Matt. It's interesting that Koeman has no problem sticking him into this new position with Ryan behind him, once again my friend has probably hit the nail on the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 16 January, 2016 Share Posted 16 January, 2016 Targett had his best ever game for Saints v Watford, but he was poor again today. He was our weakest player out there. His pace, his crosses, passes and defensive work were all substandard. Let's hope he can show that Watford form again. He was like a different player in that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevematthews635 Posted 16 January, 2016 Share Posted 16 January, 2016 Have you been drinking Nordic? He was excellent again today Sent from my SM-G900T using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 16 January, 2016 Share Posted 16 January, 2016 Give him a run in the team in this position, we might have another Gareth Bale on our hands. I can see likeness to a young GB, seriously. Blimey. This will certainly be a post to look back on in five years time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 16 January, 2016 Share Posted 16 January, 2016 I have a friend who blew his chance to play pro football, he was at Bristol City then Villa and played against the Wallaces Matty and Shearer at academy level. He has an uncanny eye for players, I can say whatsits a bit of a tidy player, he will come back with shrewd observations about their game and point out their flaws....... Next time you watch said player it was frightening how much of what he said was true..... We went to Old Trafford together in the relegation season and his observations during the game and post match analysis driving home was fascinating and non of it Cobblers. Some time ago around the time Luke Shaw burst onto the scene he says to me "who's that left back of yours" Luke Shaw? "No not him, he's good but not that good" "Skinny Kid, hasn't played for your first team yet" Matty Targett? "That's the one, trust me he is very good, in fact he is one of those players who can't stop learning, he will be a better player than Shaw ever will be by miles when he develops". With this in mind I have had a very open mind when watching Matt. It's interesting that Koeman has no problem sticking him into this new position with Ryan behind him, once again my friend has probably hit the nail on the head. Time will certainly tell, but right now Targett can only play against good opponents when he has Bertrand covering him. When Shaw played we didn't need anyone in front never mind behind. Targett has the first touch and composure, but I don't see him beating players. He doesn't have the pace required. He needs to bulk up and become far tougher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 16 January, 2016 Share Posted 16 January, 2016 Time will certainly tell, but right now Targett can only play against good opponents when he has Bertrand covering him. When Shaw played we didn't need anyone in front never mind behind. Targett has the first touch and composure, but I don't see him beating players. He doesn't have the pace required. He needs to bulk up and become far tougher. All these guys develop at different rates, you think of Bale went to Spurs and was a steaming pile to start with then suddenly got on his bike, there are many players down through the years who have come on in later years. Another thing is Luke Shaw had a steady run of games young Matthew has been in and out knowing Bertrand will be first choice more often than not, you would like to think that the position he has played in these last few games has come about through his overall attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangermouth Posted 17 January, 2016 Share Posted 17 January, 2016 I have a friend who blew his chance to play pro football, he was at Bristol City then Villa and played against the Wallaces Matty and Shearer at academy level. He has an uncanny eye for players, I can say whatsits a bit of a tidy player, he will come back with shrewd observations about their game and point out their flaws....... Next time you watch said player it was frightening how much of what he said was true..... We went to Old Trafford together in the relegation season and his observations during the game and post match analysis driving home was fascinating and non of it Cobblers. Some time ago around the time Luke Shaw burst onto the scene he says to me "who's that left back of yours" Luke Shaw? "No not him, he's good but not that good" "Skinny Kid, hasn't played for your first team yet" Matty Targett? "That's the one, trust me he is very good, in fact he is one of those players who can't stop learning, he will be a better player than Shaw ever will be by miles when he develops". With this in mind I have had a very open mind when watching Matt. It's interesting that Koeman has no problem sticking him into this new position with Ryan behind him, once again my friend has probably hit the nail on the head. Interesting. What does he say about Clasie, Romeu, Austin? What about our u21s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 17 January, 2016 Share Posted 17 January, 2016 You have to be kidding? Zaha took the **** out of him in the second half, or was that your point that as part of a five man defence he looks decent? I certainly can't argue that he has played well having been pushed further forward, but he has a bloody long way to go before I'm going to be happy to see him play left back in a four up against the likes of Zaha. Well I'm not one of those who dares to predict that with Matty Targett we have another Luke Shaw or even Gareth Bale on our hands. That seems rather OTT at this time. But let's face it, Wilfried Zaha is a very dangerous player who is more than capable of exposing any defender who may be lacking somewhat in sheer pace - as MT surely does. Nevertheless, those who were observing that FA Cup game closely really shouldn't be all that surprised by MT's evident improved form because the signs were all there last week that he could indeed fit into this system well. Clearly the manager must have seen that too, or else why do you think he would continue to persevere with him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 17 January, 2016 Share Posted 17 January, 2016 Have you been drinking Nordic? He was excellent again today Sent from my SM-G900T using Tapatalk I've had a look at a replay of the game, and I have to agree, I was wrong about him. It was, at worst, a reasonable performance. From my viewpoint at St Mary's, I thought he just fell over for the penalty, but I can see now from the TV replay that he was on his way to scoring when he was pushed. Also, I hadn't realized how close he was to scoring when his shot was cleared off the line. I guess he set such a high standard with his performance against Watford that I was expecting too much. I like his attitude and hope he does well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WealdSaint Posted 17 January, 2016 Share Posted 17 January, 2016 The cross for Long's first goal on Wednesday was a thing of beauty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 17 January, 2016 Share Posted 17 January, 2016 The cross for Long's first goal on Wednesday was a thing of beauty Yes it was. His one into the Chapel in the second half yesterday was not so pretty. He had a good game yesterday, well worth his place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 17 January, 2016 Share Posted 17 January, 2016 Another very good game yesterday. He has benefitted a lot from not having to cover for Tadic for most of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 17 January, 2016 Share Posted 17 January, 2016 (edited) All these guys develop at different rates, you think of Bale went to Spurs and was a steaming pile to start with then suddenly got on his bike, there are many players down through the years who have come on in later years. Another thing is Luke Shaw had a steady run of games young Matthew has been in and out knowing Bertrand will be first choice more often than not, you would like to think that the position he has played in these last few games has come about through his overall attitude. All fair points, but tell me, do you see the next Shaw to Bale in as many years as you care to choose? That's what some are suggesting on here and that is a very bold prediction. Those two are one in a generation type players. How we got both is amazing. Fair play to anyone that makes it and is proved right. For me Targett has the first touch to play at a decent level, but the lack of pace worries me and unless he compensates for that by becoming a little stronger and nastier he won't be real top player. Right now I don't want to see him at left back in a four. He is too lightweight. But right now we don't have to, so that's not a problem. Edited 17 January, 2016 by Chez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 17 January, 2016 Share Posted 17 January, 2016 Another very good game yesterday. He has benefitted a lot from not having to cover for Tadic for most of the game. Now that's an interesting point, but I'd point to the fact he is the one providing cover for Bertrand. A much easier job than going one on one with a winger like Zaha... Just shows the importance of playing the right players in the right formation with the right tactics to get the best out of them. I am not sure RK has done that for quite a while, but he has at the moment with the likes of Long and Targett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 17 January, 2016 Share Posted 17 January, 2016 The back 3 works for us and may be the answer moving forward for a few reasons. It suits Cedric and Targett who aren't the best defensively, it helps us get two up front (my only concern about Austin is I'm not sure he's at his best as a lone striker) and yet we can still control the midfield by having 3 in there. The main issue we have had with it before (v palace) was VVD and Fonte getting exposed against good wingers out in wide areas, but with Bertand playing as one of the 3 we don't need to worry about the left hand side. I would still be concerned about exposing VVD like this though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Uwe Posted 17 January, 2016 Share Posted 17 January, 2016 Delighted for the lad. Would love it if he could establish himself as a regular, nothing better than having a few players who have a local connection to the club. I wonder as well whether he's reacted positively to Koeman's comments the other week about the academy players. Could just be coincidence of course but it's great to see him take his opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted 17 January, 2016 Share Posted 17 January, 2016 The back 3 works for us and may be the answer moving forward for a few reasons. It suits Cedric and Targett who aren't the best defensively, it helps us get two up front (my only concern about Austin is I'm not sure he's at his best as a lone striker) and yet we can still control the midfield by having 3 in there. The main issue we have had with it before (v palace) was VVD and Fonte getting exposed against good wingers out in wide areas, but with Bertand playing as one of the 3 we don't need to worry about the left hand side. I would still be concerned about exposing VVD like this though Pretty sure Redknapp played Austin as a lone striker more often than not last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 17 January, 2016 Share Posted 17 January, 2016 Pretty sure Redknapp played Austin as a lone striker more often than not last season. Triffic. Top, top player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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