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norwaysaint

norwaysaint

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Why would they bother, he is no good apparently

 

I thought the quote actually said that nobody was near ready for the first team. This article isn't about buying players ready for the first team, it's about getting players for their academy. I don't think anybody said he was "no good". Are you misquoting by accident, having misunderstood, or is it your way of pointing out that you think people were wrong and that he is ready for the first team?

jasoneuelllfanclub

jasoneuelllfanclub

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The timing of this story is supicious given koeman's quotes on state of the academy last week :)

 

I am starting to doubt Koeman's judgement especially if he thinks Matt Targett is the only one close to first team football. I dont think there is a supporter that would agree Targett is good enough.

 

I would be really concerned if Matt Targett is the best propsect we have but I suspect this is not the case. Having said that both the U18s and U21's have gone backwards in terms of league results since Jason Dodd and Paul Williams departed the club. They have taken some real hammerings in games as well.

hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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The timing of this story is supicious given koeman's quotes on state of the academy last week :)

 

I am starting to doubt Koeman's judgement especially if he thinks Matt Targett is the only one close to first team football. I dont think there is a supporter that would agree Targett is good enough.

 

I would be really concerned if Matt Targett is the best propsect we have but I suspect this is not the case. Having said that both the U18s and U21's have gone backwards in terms of league results since Jason Dodd and Paul Williams departed the club. They have taken some real hammerings in games as well.

 

I'd love to know the story behind their departures. Seemed it was all hushed up.

Dig Dig

Dig Dig

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I thought the quote actually said that nobody was near ready for the first team. This article isn't about buying players ready for the first team, it's about getting players for their academy. I don't think anybody said he was "no good". Are you misquoting by accident, having misunderstood, or is it your way of pointing out that you think people were wrong and that he is ready for the first team?

 

Hesketh is 19 which is quite old if Utd were only considering him as an "academy" prospect. It would be different if he was 14, 15, 16 but he's at the stage in his career where he would really need to make a breakthrough pretty soon.

doddisalegend

doddisalegend

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United have instructed scouts to identify the best teenagers in the country to improve their ailing academy

 

So basically man U want to buy a load of promising youngsters to make their academy look good....

ribbo

ribbo

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United have instructed scouts to identify the best teenagers in the country to improve their ailing academy

 

So basically man U want to buy a load of promising youngsters to make their academy look good....

 

Everyone does it.

Window Cleaner

Window Cleaner

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Everyone does it.

 

Although Hesketh will cease to be a "teenager" in the near future. Utd may want to recruit him but for their academy? I'd think he's had enough of academies and wants to play serious football.

ribbo

ribbo

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Although Hesketh will cease to be a "teenager" in the near future. Utd may want to recruit him but for their academy? I'd think he's had enough of academies and wants to play serious football.

 

yeah, he'll be good for 2 years in the U21 League, maybe he'll be squad filler of a decent standard, or it's just the kids representative or someone else stirring the pot.

Window Cleaner

Window Cleaner

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yeah, he'll be good for 2 years in the U21 League, maybe he'll be squad filler of a decent standard, or it's just the kids representative or someone else stirring the pot.

 

Utd already have a fair old selection of 19-22 year olds, they actually play in the PL from time to time, Hesketh would need to go somewhere where he'll play real football.

dronskisaint

dronskisaint

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The fact that he's a quality prospect seems to have gone under the radar here - I've seen quite a bit of our youth games over the last couple of years and he's looked a consistently good performer. Sh*t at the Norwich game but they all were!

 

Still think the story is ****** though.....

pluto

pluto

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says it all

 

 

"Southampton have indicated they have no intention of selling him and sources deny United have made contact about the player."

Window Cleaner

Window Cleaner

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The fact that he's a quality prospect seems to have gone under the radar here - I've seen quite a bit of our youth games over the last couple of years and he's looked a consistently good performer. Sh*t at the Norwich game but they all were!

 

Still think the story is ****** though.....

 

Quality prospect he may well be but for him the clock is ticking because he turns 20 in a couple of months and he's not a first team squad regular. At Utd they have about 6 U21s who actually play in the first team on occasions so I really don't think that's a likely destination for Hesketh. He's not really an academy type signing any more, needs to be looking for first team football at his age..

Village Saint

Village Saint

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The timing of this story is supicious given koeman's quotes on state of the academy last week :)

 

I am starting to doubt Koeman's judgement especially if he thinks Matt Targett is the only one close to first team football. I dont think there is a supporter that would agree Targett is good enough.

 

I would be really concerned if Matt Targett is the best propsect we have but I suspect this is not the case. Having said that both the U18s and U21's have gone backwards in terms of league results since Jason Dodd and Paul Williams departed the club. They have taken some real hammerings in games as well.

 

As someone who has actually watched Targett play regularly - yes he is ready to be given more pitch time in the first team but no he isn't the finished product but that's what giving players a chance to develop is all about. Targett is a regular for England Under 21s which shows that others also see his promise. Yes he definitely is the one that's closest but Hesketh, Slattery and Lewis are all fine prospects, they are just younger and less experienced. People on here have weirdly unrealistic expectations of how many any academy can produce at one time. Blimey if just 1 of those 5 becomes the player we hope foe the academy will have done its job.

Saint86

Saint86

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The timing of this story is supicious given koeman's quotes on state of the academy last week :)

 

I am starting to doubt Koeman's judgement especially if he thinks Matt Targett is the only one close to first team football. I dont think there is a supporter that would agree Targett is good enough.

 

I would be really concerned if Matt Targett is the best propsect we have but I suspect this is not the case. Having said that both the U18s and U21's have gone backwards in terms of league results since Jason Dodd and Paul Williams departed the club. They have taken some real hammerings in games as well.

 

That mate, is exactly what the board want you to think. Its all one big greasy PR machine. Koeman has started giving them a hard time and they've begun the deflection and undermine strategy they have used every time it goes against them. Did you not notice the recent ITK comments casting doubt on Koeman... Same old same old. Things go wrong and all of a sudden there is loads of info coming out undermining or discrediting those involved.

norwaysaint

norwaysaint

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Hesketh is 19 which is quite old if Utd were only considering him as an "academy" prospect. It would be different if he was 14, 15, 16 but he's at the stage in his career where he would really need to make a breakthrough pretty soon.

 

 

I agree. Yet that's what the article is about.

Shropshire Saint

Shropshire Saint

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I have been impressed with what little I have seen of Hesketh, but what do I know? If we can get money for him sell him and all the other members of the Under 21 side except of course Golden Boy Targett.

 

Sarcasm apart, I feel that Koeman's comments last week, particularly in view of the way that the first team are so underperforming were totally out of order and that he may well have irretrievably damaged his reputation in the eyes of many fans, myself included. It is one thing for a manager to feel that way, it is a totally different matter to make a public comment on the subject.

Saint IQ

Saint IQ

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He went to my old school so I know a younger chap who was in his year and he said he's a saints fan I think. Maybe one that would stay for a while should he come good. :thumbup:

Wade Garrett

Wade Garrett

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That mate, is exactly what the board want you to think. Its all one big greasy PR machine. Koeman has started giving them a hard time and they've begun the deflection and undermine strategy they have used every time it goes against them. Did you not notice the recent ITK comments casting doubt on Koeman... Same old same old. Things go wrong and all of a sudden there is loads of info coming out undermining or discrediting those involved.

 

Not that hard to see through is it.

DuncanRG

DuncanRG

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How good would our shirts look without sponsors?

 

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That mate, is exactly what the board want you to think. Its all one big greasy PR machine. Koeman has started giving them a hard time and they've begun the deflection and undermine strategy they have used every time it goes against them. Did you not notice the recent ITK comments casting doubt on Koeman... Same old same old. Things go wrong and all of a sudden there is loads of info coming out undermining or discrediting those involved.

 

If you're taking that line with the club, you need to think about why Koeman said what he said.

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