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On the point of the mainstream media supposedly "rigging" the election. These are corporate entities. They are allowed to have a bias just as are any other corporation. The citizens United ruling declared effectively that corporations, most of which heavily fund the GOP are "people too"

 

are these "corporate people" allowed to donate a metric ton of cash, but express no public opinion?

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Below is a surprising article from the New Yorker Magazine. This magazine has always been a left wing apologizer so this article is even more amazing.

The author. Roy Kaplan, is the political correspondent for Bloomberg and wrote extensively about Obama even before he was nominated.

 

"Who is Donald Trump?" The better question may be, "What is Donald Trump?"

The answer? A giant middle finger from average Americans to the political, academic and media establishment.

Some Trump supporters have simply had it with the Demo-socialists and the "Republicans In Name Only" class of people. They knew there wasn't

a dime's worth of difference between Hillary Rodham and Jeb Bush, and only a few cents worth between Rodham and the other GOP candidates.

Ben Carson was not an "establishment" candidate, but the Clinton machine would pulverize Carson; and the somewhat rebellious Ted Cruz (justifiably

so) would have been tied up with natural born citizen lawsuits (as might Marco Rubio). The Trump supporters figure they may as well have some fun

tossing Molotov cocktails at Wall Street and Georgetown while they watch the nation collapse. Besides - lightning might strike, Trump might get elected,

and he might actually fix a few things. Stranger things have happened (the nation elected an [islamo-]Marxist in 2008 and Bruce Jenner now wears

designer dresses.)

Millions of conservatives are justifiably furious. They gave the Republicans control of the House in 2010 and control of the Senate in 2014, and have seen

them govern no differently than Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. Yet those same voters are supposed to trust the GOP in 2016? Why?

Trump did not come from out of nowhere. His candidacy was created by the last six years of Republican failures. No reasonable person can believe that any

of the establishment candidates [dems or reps] would have slashed federal spending, rein in the Federal Reserve, cut burdensome business regulations,

reform the tax code, or eliminate useless federal departments (the Departments of Education, Housing and Urban Development, Energy, etc.). Even Ronald

Reagan was unable to eliminate the Department of Education. (Of course, getting shot at tends to make a person less of a risk-taker.) No reasonable person

can believe that any of the nation's major problems will be solved by Rodham as she is simply the third verse of Obama’s waning swan song.

Many Americans, and especially Trump supporters, have had it with:

· Anyone named Bush

· Anyone named Clinton

· Anyone who's held political office

· Political correctness

· Illegal immigration

· Massive unemployment

Our out of control federal spending

Our National Debt that exceeds our GDP (Can you say Greece?)

· Phony "official" unemployment and inflation figures

· Welfare waste and fraud

Money being spent on Illegal immigrants

· People faking disabilities to go on the dole

· VA waiting lists

· TSA airport groping

· ObamaCare

· The Federal Reserve's money-printing schemes

· Wall Street crooks like Jon Corzine

· Michelle Obama's vacations

· Michelle Obama's food police

· Barack Obama's golf

· Barack Obama's arrogant and condescending lectures

· Barack Obama's criticism/hatred of America

· Valerie Jarrett

· " Holiday trees"

. Hollywood hypocrites

· Cop killers calling themselves Black Lives Matter

· Gun confiscation

· Stagnant wages

· Boys in girls' bathrooms

. Whiny, spoiled college students who can't even place the Civil War in the correct century... and that's just the short list.

 

Trump supporters believe that no Democrat wants to address these issues, and that few Republicans have the courage to address these issues. They know

that Trump is their way of saying, "Screw you, Hillary Rodham and all the Do Nothing Republicans!" The more the talking head political pundits insult the Trump

supporters, the more supporters he gains. (The only pundits who seem to understand what is going on are Democrats Doug Schoen and Pat Caddell and Republican

John LeBoutillier.

But America does not need a tune-up at the same old garage. It needs a new engine installed by experts - and Hillary Rodham is not a mechanic; she merely manages

a garage her philandering husband abandoned. Trump is also not a mechanic, but he knows where to find the best ones to work in his garage. He won't hire his brother-in-law

or someone to whom he owes a favor; he will hire someone who lives and breathes cars.

"How dare they revolt!" the "elites" are bellowing. Well, the citizens are daring to revolt, and the RINOs had better get used to it. "But Trump will hand the election to Clinton !"

That is what the Karl Rove-types want people to believe, just as the leftist media eagerly shoved "Maverick" McCain down GOP throats in 2008 - knowing he would lose to

Obama. But even if Trump loses and Rodham wins, she would be nothing more than a caretaker, not working to restore America 's greatness but merely presiding over the

collapse of a massively in-debt nation. A nation can perhaps survive open borders; a nation can perhaps survive a generous welfare system. But no nation can survive both

- and there is little evidence that Hillary Rodham understands that. The United States cannot forever continue on the path it is on. At some point it will be destroyed

by its debt.Yes, Trump speaks like a bull wander[ing] through a china shop, but the truth is that the borders do need to be sealed; we cannot afford to feed, house, and clothe

200,000 Syrian immigrants for decades (even if we get inordinately lucky and none of them are ISIS infiltrators or Syed Farook wannabes); the world is at war with radical Islamists;

and we cannot continue trying to spend our way out of debt.

Is Trump the perfect candidate? Of course not. Neither was Ronald Reagan. But unless we close our borders and restrict immigration, all the other issues are irrelevant. One

terrorist blowing up a bridge or a tunnel could kill thousands. One jihadist poisoning a city's water supply could kill tens of thousands. One electromagnetic pulse attack from a single

Iranian nuclear device could kill tens of millions. Faced with those possibilities, most Americans probably don't care that Trump relied on eminent domain to grab up a final quarter acre

of property for a hotel, or that he boils the blood of the Muslim Brotherhood thugs running the Council on American-Islamic Relations. While Attorney General Loretta Lynch's greatest

fear is someone giving a Muslim a dirty look, most Americans are more worried about being gunned down at a shopping mall by a crazed [islamic] lunatic who treats his prayer mat

better than his three wives and who is fool enough to think that 72 virgins are waiting for him in paradise.

The establishment is frightened to death that Trump will win, but not because they believe he will harm the nation. They are afraid he will upset their taxpayer-subsidized apple carts.

While Obama threatens to veto legislation that spends too little, they worry that Trump will veto legislation that spends too much.

You can be certain that if Hillary wins in November 2016 … [her] cabinet positions will be filled with the same people we've seen before.The washed-up has-beens of the Clinton and

Obama administrations will be back in charge. The hacks from Goldman Sachs will continue to call the shots. And America will continue her continuing decline as other great democracies

in history.

 

If the establishment wins, America loses.

 

Roy Kaplan

 

 

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van Hanegem

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Unbelievable, someone educated speaking out for Trump! And it's in the Washington Post as well! This guy does have some courage to stand up against all the bullsh*t from the so called political correct madness these days, too bad many of his colleagues don't dare to as they will be ridiculed, silenced or even fired. I guess character assasination is the new stake in the "academic" world.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/10/12/what-its-like-to-be-a-college-professor-who-supports-donald-trump/?utm_term=.aafa662d5ae7

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LVSaint

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Unbelievable, someone educated speaking out for Trump! And it's in the Washington Post as well! This guy does have some courage to stand up against all the bullsh*t from the so called political correct madness these days, too bad many of his colleagues don't dare to as they will be ridiculed, silenced or even fired. I guess character assasination is the new stake in the "academic" world.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/10/12/what-its-like-to-be-a-college-professor-who-supports-donald-trump/?utm_term=.aafa662d5ae7

 

He may be educated but there's an awful lot of ******** in that article. It's at least, a bit more coherent than post 305 for example.

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Below is a surprising article from the New Yorker Magazine. This magazine has always been a left wing apologizer so this article is even more amazing.

The author. Roy Kaplan, is the political correspondent for Bloomberg and wrote extensively about Obama even before he was nominated.

 

"Who is Donald Trump?" The better question may be, "What is Donald Trump?"... Ad nauseum.

 

Another hoax, which has been doing the rounds for about a year. The absurd 'article' most certainly did not appear in the New Yorker.

 

What the hell is wrong with you? And if you have something to say, say it yourself and stop spamming this thread with completely made up conspiro-cretin garbage.

 

Also, the occasional link wouldn't go amiss.

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You're right. It's a hoax. And it's from a notorious liar and cartoon conspiro-creep who only gets away with this kind of stuff because the world is not short, sadly, of freakishly stupid people ready to post his videos.

 

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/10/06/james-okeefe-brings-his-dishonest-doctored-vide/201026

 

It's obviously such a hoax that Scott Foval and Robert Creamer have resigned from the SuperPACs they were associated with. And Robert Creamer (a convicted felon) visiting the White House over 200 times during Obama's tenure has nothing to do with the dirty tricks campaign that the Democrats have been pulling for decades?

 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-18/robert-creamer

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He may be educated but there's an awful lot of ******** in that article. It's at least, a bit more coherent than post 305 for example.��

 

This guy supports Trump so of course there has to be an awful lot of ******** in what he says. Would you care to point out which part is ******** according to you?

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It's obviously such a hoax that Scott Foval and Robert Creamer have resigned from the SuperPACs they were associated with. And Robert Creamer (a convicted felon) visiting the White House over 200 times during Obama's tenure has nothing to do with the dirty tricks campaign that the Democrats have been pulling for decades?

 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-18/robert-creamer

 

No, no, no, it's all a hoax, why don't you get it? You're quoting the wrong media! :lol:

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This guy supports Trump so of course there has to be an awful lot of ******** in what he says. Would you care to point out which part is ******** according to you?

 

A few points.

 

He mentions the post recession sluggish economy - fair enough, it is pretty crap but fails to mention sustained growth for 7 years in a row and decent job growth. (The author's champion said unemployment was at 40% at one point last year). He declares that Trump's tax cuts will let the economy prosper with trickle down economics..hmmm.

Racial tension is leading to riots...um yes. How is Trump going to handle that little nugget?

Violent crime is up sharply? No, it's actually down.

The destabilisation in the middle east and ISIS had much to do with the vacuum left in Iraq, again, did not come about due to the last administration's actions. He says how Trump will restore international relations. How? With Russia perhaps.

 

It reads as a cherry picked Trump manifesto and a lot of non-truths thrown in for good measure.

I'm not suggesting Obama has been terrific in the last 8 years and that Hillary will somehow make things wonderful but this blind assertion that Trump is the answer is ludicrous.

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A few points

 

He mentions the post recession sluggish economy - fair enough, it is pretty crap but fails to mention sustained growth for 7 years in a row and decent job growth. (The author's champion said unemployment was at 40% at one point last year). He declares that Trump's tax cuts will let the economy prosper with trickle down economics..hmmm.

Racial tension is leading to riots...um yes. How is Trump going to handle that little nugget?

Violent crime is up sharply? No, it's actually down.

The destabilisation in the middle east and ISIS had much to do with the vacuum left in Iraq, again, did not come about due to the last administration's actions. He says how Trump will restore international relations. How? With Russia perhaps.

 

It reads as a cherry picked Trump manifesto and a lot of non-truths thrown in for good measure.

I'm not suggesting Obama has been terrific in the last 8 years and that Hillary will somehow make things wonderful but this blind assertion that Trump is the answer is ludicrous.

 

Thanks LVSaint but when he doesn't say anything about job growth or how Trump will handle the racial tension, it doesn't mean that the things he does mention are ********. Of course you can doubt the way Trump wants to "revive the economy" and it won't be that difficult to find 10 economists who will state that it's the worst plan ever. It won't be that hard to find 10 more economists who'll say it's the best plan too as economists usually challenge each other. So it's hard to say if Bonevac is talking ********. According to this article Bonevac mentioned (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/05/14/we-have-a-problem-homicides-are-up-again-this-year-in-more-than-two-dozen-major-u-s-cities/?tid=a_inl&utm_term=.25e23d494d41), the FBI Director states violent crime is up in the last 18 months. Why do you say this is ********? The destabilisation in the middle east and ISIS had nothing to do with the way Obama & Clinton operated? I'm sorry but that really is ********.

 

Remarkably Bonevac didn't say anything about the Clinton Foundation. What do you think about the fact that the Clintons accepted 25 million from Saudi Arabia for this foundation while Hillary knew that the Saudi's were funding ISIS as the emails from Wikileaks showed? Shouldn't that be enough reason to say she's not the right person?

 

Just for the sake of it: I'm no fan of Trump, I regard him as a vulgar and vain creature and I expect racial tension will increase with him at the helm. I find it appaling that Trump and Clinton are the candidates for the presidency, to me it shows the deplorable state of USA politics.

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Thanks LVSaint but when he doesn't say anything about job growth or how Trump will handle the racial tension, it doesn't mean that the things he does mention are ********. Of course you can doubt the way Trump wants to "revive the economy" and it won't be that difficult to find 10 economists who will state that it's the worst plan ever. It won't be that hard to find 10 more economists who'll say it's the best plan too as economists usually challenge each other. So it's hard to say if Bonevac is talking ********.

 

Trickledown economics is ******** in my opinion, but I'm sure there are economists out there who think it still works, sure.

 

According to this article Bonevac mentioned (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/05/14/we-have-a-problem-homicides-are-up-again-this-year-in-more-than-two-dozen-major-u-s-cities/?tid=a_inl&utm_term=.25e23d494d41), the FBI Director states violent crime is up in the last 18 months. Why do you say this is ********?

 

I was aware that it had risen in several major cities as the report shows and is titled, but I'm pretty sure it is down overall, nationally, as has been the trend in previous years. That said, my city, Las Vegas, it's up, and yes, it is worrying and is a problem.

 

 

The destabilisation in the middle east and ISIS had nothing to do with the way Obama & Clinton operated? I'm sorry but that really is ********.

 

I'd say the ISIS movement started and gathered momentum amid the chaos that was Iraq after the second war. How has it been handled since?

Could it have been better? Probably. Is the answer joining Putin in bombing the **** out of the Syrians? Trump says it is.

 

Remarkably Bonevac didn't say anything about the Clinton Foundation. What do you think about the fact that the Clintons accepted 25 million from Saudi Arabia for this foundation while Hillary knew that the Saudi's were funding ISIS as the emails from Wikileaks showed? Shouldn't that be enough reason to say she's not the right person?

 

Oh, she's not the right person, give me Bernie any day.

 

Just for the sake of it: I'm no fan of Trump, I regard him as a vulgar and vain creature

 

Yep, he's a ****. We can agree on that. :)

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Yep, he's a ****. We can agree on that. :)

 

I guess we can agree also that the next POTUS won't be the vulgar dude but the crooked b*tch. What a bad appearance again from Trump. It shouldn't be that difficult to let Clinton make a fool of herself by asking her some questions she couldn't prepare for. Clinton is good in memorising her lines but can't improvise. Well, we know at least Europe will have to face more trouble in the Middle East with Clinton as the new CIC. Hopefully we will be better prepared for refugees seeking shelter...

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Not sure how closely you were following those ridiculous speeches at the charity dinner last night but Trump was booed on at least three occasions by the audience for inappropriate comments, which is (apparently) the first time that has ever happened. It is also interesting/amusing that the idiot Trump's father was involved in anti-Catholic demonstrations during his KKK days at the time the dude who this dinner is in memory of was nominated as a presidential candidate (I think in around 1928). How fabulously anti-establishment.

 

Think if the duck wins then I might refuse to accept the result and hope for someone a bit more moderate instead - like David Duke or Adolf Hitler :p

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Not sure how closely you were following those ridiculous speeches at the charity dinner last night but Trump was booed on at least three occasions by the audience for inappropriate comments, which is (apparently) the first time that has ever happened. It is also interesting/amusing that the idiot Trump's father was involved in anti-Catholic demonstrations during his KKK days at the time the dude who this dinner is in memory of was nominated as a presidential candidate (I think in around 1928). How fabulously anti-establishment.

 

Think if the duck wins then I might refuse to accept the result and hope for someone a bit more moderate instead - like David Duke or Adolf Hitler :p

 

You don't have to go back that far to ridicule Trumps attempts to demonise Clinton:

 

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To the citizens of the United States of America, from Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II

 

In light of your failure to nominate competent candidates for President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective immediately. (You should look up 'revocation' in the Oxford English Dictionary.). Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths, and territories (except North Dakota, which she does not fancy). Your new Prime Minister, Teresa May, will appoint a Governor for America without the need for further elections.

 

Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire may be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed. To aid in the transition to a British Crown dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:

 

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1. The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'colour,' 'favour,' 'labour' and 'neighbour.' Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters, and the suffix '-ize' will be replaced by the suffix '-ise.' Generally, you will be expected to raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. (look up 'vocabulary').

 

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2. Using the same twenty-seven words interspersed with filler noises such as ''like' and 'you know' is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication. There is no such thing as U.S. English. We will let Microsoft know on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take into account the reinstated letter 'u'' and the elimination of '-ize.'

 

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3. July 4th will no longer be celebrated as a holiday.

 

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4. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers, or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you're not quite ready to be independent. Guns should only be used for shooting grouse. If you can't sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist, then you're not ready to shoot grouse.

 

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5. Therefore, you will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous than a vegetable peeler. Although a permit will be required if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public.

 

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6. All intersections will be replaced with roundabouts, and you will start driving on the left side with immediate effect. At the same time, you will go metric with immediate effect and without the benefit of conversion tables. Both roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour.

 

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7. The former USA will adopt UK prices on petrol (which you have been calling gasoline) of roughly $10/US gallon. Get used to it.

 

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8. You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips, and those things you insist on calling potato chips are properly called crisps. Real chips are thick cut, fried in animal fat, and dressed not with catsup but with vinegar.

 

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9. The cold, tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually beer at all. Henceforth, only proper British Bitter will be referred to as beer, and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred to as Lager. South African beer is also acceptable, as they are pound for pound the greatest sporting nation on earth and it can only be due to the beer. They are also part of the British Commonwealth - see what it did for them. American brands will be referred to as Near-Frozen Gnat's Urine, so that all can be sold without risk of further confusion.

 

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10. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as good guys. Hollywood will also be required to cast English actors to play English characters. Watching Andie Macdowell attempt English dialect in Four Weddings and a Funeral was an experience akin to having one's ears removed with a cheese grater.

 

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11. You will cease playing American football. There is only one kind of proper football; you call it soccer. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which has some similarities to American football, but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like a bunch of nancies).

 

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12. Further, you will stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the World Series for a game which is not played outside of America. Since only 2.1% of you are aware there is a world beyond your borders, your error is understandable. You will learn cricket, and we will let you face the South Africans first to take the sting out of their deliveries.

 

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13.. You must tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us mad.

 

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14. An internal revenue agent (i.e. tax collector) from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all monies due (backdated to 1776).

 

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15. Daily Tea Time begins promptly at 4 p.m. with proper cups, with saucers, and never mugs, with high quality biscuits (cookies) and cakes; plus strawberries (with cream) when in season.

 

God Save the Queen!

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Why?

 

The full quote from Clinton is a simple statement of deterrence policy, is it not? In this case it's in response to a hypothetical question about Iran launching a nuclear attack on Israel:

 

Well the question was ‘if Iran was to launch a nuclear response, what would our response be’ and I want Iran to know that if I’m the President, we will attack Iran; and I want them to understand that because it does mean that they have to look very carefully at their society because whatever stage of development they might be in their nuclear weapons program in the next 10 years during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them. That’s a terrible thing to say but those people who run Iran need to understand that because that perhaps would deter them from doing something that would be reckless, foolish and tragic

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Fox calling North Carolina for Trump (it was the first to call Virginia for Clinton).

 

Wayne County (Detroit) shaping up to be interesting. A traditional Democrat stronghold, so Clinton needs to do well there to offset Trump's gains in rural Michigan yet is woefully underperforming Obama.

 

Whatever the result, looks like the GOP will control both the House and Senate, so even a Clinton win is likely to be a poisoned chalice.

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The US judiciary will obviously rule that the Senate should have a vote on it.

 

Attacking the judiciary for doing their job is beyond pathetic.

 

The way things are moving would seem to insinuate that this is a much broader constitutional question - why do we run our country like this?

 

There's lots of good answers - let's hope us and the US choose well.

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