nta786 Posted 3 January, 2016 Share Posted 3 January, 2016 (edited) Right, time to move on from yesterday, and the cup may or may not be a welcome distraction. Stekelenburg Cedric?/Martina Fonte Yoshida Bertrand Romeu Clasie Davis Juanmi Mane Pelle?/Long Bench: Gazzaniga, VVD, Caulker?/Martina, JWP, Tadic, Reed, Pelle/Long Prediction: 1-0 I think Koeman will fire them up for this one... I hope so anyway, especially as a cup fixture. Will see any transfers this week as well... Might consider Seager for Juanmi too. Edited 3 January, 2016 by nta786 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 3 January, 2016 Share Posted 3 January, 2016 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?55757-Saints-v-Palace-FA-Cup-3rd-Round-Build-up#.Vokx9_mLTIU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 3 January, 2016 Share Posted 3 January, 2016 Right, time to move on from yesterday, and the cup may or may not be a welcome distraction. Stekelenburg Cedric?/Martina Fonte Yoshida Bertrand Romeu Clasie Davis Juanmi Mane Pelle?/Long Bench: Gazzaniga, VVD, Caulker?/Martina, JWP, Tadic, Reed, Pelle/Long Prediction: 1-0 I think Koeman will fire them up for this one... I hope so anyway, especially as a cup fixture. Will see any transfers this week as well... Might consider Seager for Juanmi too. Would be surprised if Caulker is involved in any way. Either he will be gone or will not be selected to avoid him being cup-tied. Of course he may be involved if he goes to Palace as is being touted. I really don't see why you would play Yoshida instead of VvD (not a Yoshida hater, he is good at CB, we need consistency in the back line). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 3 January, 2016 Share Posted 3 January, 2016 Looking crp,against Chelsea. Nothing without Bolasie and Cabaye. Much rather have their board and their beautiful stadium though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 3 January, 2016 Author Share Posted 3 January, 2016 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?55757-Saints-v-Palace-FA-Cup-3rd-Round-Build-up#.Vokx9_mLTIU Oh wow lol- with the number of threads created recently didn't see that- nor did the mods make the first one a sticky. Oops! Would be surprised if Caulker is involved in any way. Either he will be gone or will not be selected to avoid him being cup-tied. Of course he may be involved if he goes to Palace as is being touted. I really don't see why you would play Yoshida instead of VvD (not a Yoshida hater, he is good at CB, we need consistency in the back line). Would give one of Fonte or VVD a rest- especially with a midweek fixture in mind- and I do think there is a fairly high chance that this goes to a replay- in the away game I'd play our best pairing but for this I'd like to think Yoshida is capable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 3 January, 2016 Share Posted 3 January, 2016 Oh wow lol- with the number of threads created recently didn't see that- nor did the mods make the first one a sticky. Oops![/Quote] I know, I want my subscription refunded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 3 January, 2016 Share Posted 3 January, 2016 Give the youngsters and second teamers a chance. Keep our best payers for the EPL game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 3 January, 2016 Share Posted 3 January, 2016 Sako & Cabaye will be both available for Palace against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 3 January, 2016 Share Posted 3 January, 2016 For me the biggest loss was Toby from our team. For me he's more important than Morgan. Best defender in prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 3 January, 2016 Share Posted 3 January, 2016 (edited) Give the youngsters and second teamers a chance. Keep our best payers for the EPL game. Which ones would that be? Edited 4 January, 2016 by VectisSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 Gazza Martina Fonte VvD Targett Rom Reed Davis Tadic Long Juanmi I can see palace resting a few, they have a few injuries themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 We will lose this 0-2. Just cannot see this team putting in a performance at the moment that can beat the likes of Palace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 I'm going to be a little different here, why not 4-4-2 set up like this. Bothe the left and right sides can cover each other, and attack as well. Stekelenburg Martina Fonte VVD Target Cedric Romeu Clasie Bertrand Juanmi Mane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 We will lose this 0-2. Just cannot see this team putting in a performance at the moment that can beat the likes of Palace. Yet this team wiped the floor with the likes of Arsenal! We need to play our strongest team and I am afraid that doesn't include Yoshi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 We will lose this 0-2. Just cannot see this team putting in a performance at the moment that can beat the likes of Palace. Depends what side Palace can put out, they weren't very good yesterday afty. Cabaye was just suspended I think but Bolasie is out for a while apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 Stek Stephens Fonte VVD Bertrand Romeu Clasie Davis Mane Tadic Juanmi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 Stek Stephens Fonte VVD Bertrand Romeu Clasie Davis Mane Tadic Juanmi Why Stephens exactly ? If he plays for us in the Cup that means he can't play for anyone else this season and that may not be what's planned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 We will lose this 0-2. Just cannot see this team putting in a performance at the moment that can beat the likes of Palace. Possibly but did anyone see the Arsenal result coming, so who really knows ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 Why Stephens exactly ? If he plays for us in the Cup that means he can't play for anyone else this season and that may not be what's planned. I think people are just putting Stephens in because they see he is back with us and the OS says he is available for Palace. He is not generally a RB anyway, usually plays CB or midfield. But I don't think being cup-tied would be an issue, if he were to be loaned again it would be to a Championship or L1 club, and only a few of those would be still in after the 3rd round. Being cup-tied is really only an issue if loaning to a club at same or higher level. I don't think he'll start. I would go: Forster (seems like the ideal game to bring him back, he was clearly pretty close to being ready last week)? Cedric, Fonte, VvD, Bertrand Clasie, Romeu Ramirez, Davis, Tadic Long Subs: Stek, Targett, Martina, Stephens, JWP, Seager, Reed (assuming Juanmi is going/gone) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 I think people are just putting Stephens in because they see he is back with us and the OS says he is available for Palace. He is not generally a RB anyway, usually plays CB or midfield. But I don't think being cup-tied would be an issue, if he were to be loaned again it would be to a Championship or L1 club, and only a few of those would be still in after the 3rd round. Being cup-tied is really only an issue if loaning to a club at same or higher level. I don't think he'll start. I would go: Forster (seems like the ideal game to bring him back, he was clearly pretty close to being ready last week)? Cedric, Fonte, VvD, Bertrand Clasie, Romeu Ramirez, Davis, Tadic Long Subs: Stek, Targett, Martina, Stephens, JWP, Seager, Reed (assuming Juanmi is going/gone) I don't think you can play for more than 2 clubs in the same season though, that's what I was actually saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 Surprised there is still plenty of tickets still left, based on such cheap prices and Palace taking the extra allocation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintZamboni Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 Surprised there is still plenty of tickets still left, based on such cheap prices and Palace taking the extra allocation. Really? We're playing poorly and about to play a game which matters not a jot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 Really? We're playing poorly and about to play a game which matters not a jot. Anyway people will probably wait until the last minute. We sold out for the C1C cup game and were dire, some aren't gluttons for punishment just yet, probably just turn up on Saturday though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 Really? We're playing poorly and about to play a game which matters not a jot. Of course the game matters, why doesn't it? Two decent Premier League teams at that price is a bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallBoy Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 The game matters because it is now the only opportunity we have to get some glory this season. We need our best team out there. No experiments! It was only one game but the Arsenal result clearly showed we are capable. A good cup run will restore a much needed feel good factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 I don't think you can play for more than 2 clubs in the same season though, that's what I was actually saying. OK, see what you mean, not really cup-tied, but I think you are right that he would then be prevented from playing for another team. I would think that based on the wording of the news item on the OS the Club may have already decided that he is not going out on loan again this season, as they have said he is available for the Palace game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 Surprised there is still plenty of tickets still left, based on such cheap prices and Palace taking the extra allocation. Just had a look and there's certainly plenty left. We'll probably shift a few more by the weekend but it's looking far from a sell-out. Ongoing poor form (Arsenal apart) is taking it's toll and with 3 home games in a week, many are clearly finding it easy to give this a miss. And with 4,500 palace having a big day out, they'll be noisy and it could be an uncomfortable experience for some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 Just had a look and there's certainly plenty left. We'll probably shift a few more by the weekend but it's looking far from a sell-out. Ongoing poor form (Arsenal apart) is taking it's toll and with 3 home games in a week, many are clearly finding it easy to give this a miss. And with 4,500 palace having a big day out, they'll be noisy and it could be an uncomfortable experience for some. and, with their noisy (but dickish and cringey) support, it is in danger of becoming a reverse Dellhurst Park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 Anyway people will probably wait until the last minute. We sold out for the C1C cup game and were dire, some aren't gluttons for punishment just yet, probably just turn up on Saturday though. It matters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamthesaint Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 I'm going to be a little different here, why not 4-4-2 set up like this. Bothe the left and right sides can cover each other, and attack as well. Stekelenburg Martina Fonte VVD Target Cedric Romeu Clasie Bertrand Juanmi Mane Not sure playing wing backs would work, very defensive and do they have it in them to play such forward minded footy? Plus why go so experimental when there are like for like replacements from the U21 that haven't seen the light of day all season. We're not getting anything from Palace they're just too well adjusted as a team and we're all at sea. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 5 January, 2016 Share Posted 5 January, 2016 Agree with Allardyce about crazy scheduling. Last thing need post 3rd round is mid week PL game. Encouraging teams to rest players on back of the hectic xmas period. Much better to have a midweek game in March/April. I love the FA Cup but we need to win against Watford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 5 January, 2016 Share Posted 5 January, 2016 I think Koeman will make a few changes for this one. Our fitness levels are questionable saturday - saturday let alone with a mid week game. Watford have newcastle home on saturday. I expect Watford to play fairly strong team but no doubt newcastle will play a weakened team. I read somewhere Forster will play for the U21's this week although there next scheduled game is not until next Monday against Liverpool according to the OS so maybe a friendly has been arranged? Dont think Keepers need to much match practice so I would be tempted to play Forster on Saturday. Cant do any worse than Steklenburg the Statue. Forster Cedric (if fit) Yoshida VVD Target Romeu Reed Juanmi Ramirez Davis Long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 5 January, 2016 Share Posted 5 January, 2016 We should have given up on Ramírez a long time ago - he doesn't have the right attitude or temperament for English Football. He's been given so many chances and failed to take any of them. He's the only player I've seen walk of the pitch before being subbed - and he's done that 2 or 3 times now. Hopefully we will get him off the wage bill this month. We've also proved we are better with two upfront - so I'd start with Long and Juanmi upfront and a diamond in midifield with Romeu as the defenisve midfielder, Clasie on the left and Ward-Prowse on the right as the Central midfielders and Davis in the hole at the tip of the diamond. I'd play the current defence of Bertrand, Van Dijk, Fonte and Martina with Gazzinaga in goal. And I'd have the kids on the bench - Stephens, Seagar, Targett and Reed - to see if they can make a difference if we need it - or get some game time depending how the game goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 5 January, 2016 Share Posted 5 January, 2016 With Eastleigh being home to Bolton as well and our current form I don't think this will be well attended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pressingon Posted 5 January, 2016 Share Posted 5 January, 2016 With Eastleigh being home to Bolton as well and our current form I don't think this will be well attended. Why not, it is competitively priced, my senior ticket in Kingsland £7 and why would any Saints fan want to go and watch Bolton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 5 January, 2016 Share Posted 5 January, 2016 Any news on whether Bolasie and Cabaye will be back for Palace? Sent from my D5803 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 5 January, 2016 Share Posted 5 January, 2016 I couldn't care less about this fixture - we are not going to win the Cup (sorry I've had too many false dawns) and we need to keep our energy for two vital EPL games next week. And as half our players can't get through 90 minutes why waste vital energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 5 January, 2016 Share Posted 5 January, 2016 I am old school and think that you should go out to win every game which means playing your best team. It would be great to see a settled team out there week in week out, or as much as possible. The way to cut out these stupid defensive mistakes is to play together as much as possible. Only mess with the defence if there are suspensions or injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 5 January, 2016 Share Posted 5 January, 2016 With Eastleigh being home to Bolton as well and our current form I don't think this will be well attended. Depends what your definition of well attended is, but i think we'll have close to 30,000 there, the whole of the Northam is sold out, most of the Kingsland and Itchen are sold out so that just leaves the Chapel and corners with a few days to go plus some walk up on the day. Bolton have sold out 1100 at Eastleigh for Saturday which will help boost their attendance and no doubt non-league team in the 3rd round helps create the "magic of the cup", but i doubt this fixture will impact our attendance at St Marys much. It is £12 for Saints compared to £15 at Eastleigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 5 January, 2016 Share Posted 5 January, 2016 With Eastleigh being home to Bolton as well and our current form I don't think this will be well attended. I'm paying £40 to go and see Eastleigh v Bolton in hospitality for a different experience. It'll be an interesting match, chance of an upset, it doesn't have the travel overheads that me going to Newport v Blackburn would have and not as outright dull as Saints v Palace, which I didn't even go to in the 4th Round last year. Thanks to the wonders of the BBC having to justify the licence fee to the government and BT Sport having a similar level of risk-aversion, none of these matches are on tv and all of them kick off at the same time. Saints v Palace not being on the box I could understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 5 January, 2016 Share Posted 5 January, 2016 Personally i'm hoping for a few changes(opportunities for a couple of the academy players) , especially as we've a league game against watford the following wednesday. Targett & Reed should come in imo. Juanmi if he's staying should be given a start. Hopefully some of the likes of Stephens/Mcqueen/Seager/Hesketh make the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 5 January, 2016 Share Posted 5 January, 2016 Personally think we'll win 1-0 from a scrappy affair. Wouldn't really change too much team wise. Gazza Martina Fonte Stephens Bertrand (not Targett as he'll get ripped to shreds by Zaha) Clasie Reed Tadic Davis Mane Long They're a good side but depends what team they put out. Wouldn't necessarily throw too many youngsters in too soon, may work but have a feeling it may disrupt things a little more than some people hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 5 January, 2016 Share Posted 5 January, 2016 I'm going mainly because I have always gone to watch Saints - possibly from a misguided sense of loyalty started at a very early age However I can well understand why some Saints fans, particularly the younger generation who have enjoyed a fairly positive spell of success, feeling a bit let down by the current situation. I think anything over 25,000 at the current level of 'despair', even at attractive prices, will be fairly good. Also with important home League games coming up in close succession, I would be tempted to give fringe players a go. I do sympathise with those who believe we should always play our strongest team but staying in the Prem is the major thing these days and it is difficult to see our current team progressing too far in the Cup What a turn round though from last year where we were relatively confident of beating Palace in the 4th round. This time I would put us down as underdogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 5 January, 2016 Share Posted 5 January, 2016 It's so sad to see people dismissing this game as irrelevant after the excitement in the cups over the last two seasons. Are we really less likely to get to the latter stages than Reading or Aston Villa, who both made it to Wembley last season? Cup runs are great and liven up a midtable league campaign, which is what we're on course for at the moment. Let's hope the team don't take the same attitude as some of you lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 5 January, 2016 Share Posted 5 January, 2016 It's so sad to see people dismissing this game as irrelevant after the excitement in the cups over the last two seasons. Are we really less likely to get to the latter stages than Reading or Aston Villa, who both made it to Wembley last season? Cup runs are great and liven up a midtable league campaign, which is what we're on course for at the moment. Let's hope the team don't take the same attitude as some of you lot. like they did against liverpool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 5 January, 2016 Share Posted 5 January, 2016 Southampton FC (First Team) v Crystal Palace FC (First Team) FA Cup Referee: Mason, Lee Assistant Referee: Kirkup, Peter Assistant Referee: Eaton, Derek Fourth Official: Linington, James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 5 January, 2016 Share Posted 5 January, 2016 Has Mason ever given a pen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 5 January, 2016 Author Share Posted 5 January, 2016 like they did against liverpool? I don't think we lost that because of a lack of tryjng, more because we were genuinely shi*e. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintZamboni Posted 5 January, 2016 Share Posted 5 January, 2016 It's so sad to see people dismissing this game as irrelevant after the excitement in the cups over the last two seasons. Are we really less likely to get to the latter stages than Reading or Aston Villa, who both made it to Wembley last season? Cup runs are great and liven up a midtable league campaign, which is what we're on course for at the moment. Let's hope the team don't take the same attitude as some of you lot. The FA cup is statistically a non event though. We won't win it. 3/25 FA cups since 1990 have been won by teams which aren't Utd, City,Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs or Liverpool. Sad to say but given our bad form I'd rather we use the cup to find some form, maybe rest up a few, try a few out. Not that bothered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 5 January, 2016 Share Posted 5 January, 2016 The FA cup is statistically a non event though. We won't win it. 3/25 FA cups since 1990 have been won by teams which aren't Utd, City,Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs or Liverpool. Sad to say but given our bad form I'd rather we use the cup to find some form, maybe rest up a few, try a few out. Not that bothered. Jesus. It's the FA Cup! What's the point in supporting a team if you don't want a cup run? "I'm not that bothered" [about the FA Cup], seems to be mantra of the dull, modern fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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