SNSUN Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 Poll please to see what people think. Are we in one? For me, not yet, I think we have enough quality to be OK this season, but I fear for next season without decent signings. We're looking over our shoulders though rather than up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 (edited) Four points from the last 24 available. If you replicate the last eight results over the remaining 18 games, we take nine more points and finish on 35 points. In the last five season, if a team has finished on 35 points then it has not been enough to survive. Edited 2 January, 2016 by Saint-Armstrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 Poll please to see what people think. Are we in one? For me, not yet, I think we have enough quality to be OK this season, but I fear for next season without decent signings. We're looking over our shoulders though rather than up... We are because regardless of how we are losing games, all the bad teams are getting closer to us!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 Nope.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScepticalStan Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 4 points from our last 8 games (and a reasonably well-balanced selection of fixtures at that). Carry on with that form and we'll pick up 9 points from the remaining 18 fixtures. Pick up 9 more points this season and we'll finish on 35 points, which will quite possibly see us relegated. Its a very genuine concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambsaint Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 Of course we are. However to look on the bright side we are still only a good run of results from a decent league position. I was amazed yesterday when I read in the Telegraph that we have had the second highest number of shots in the PL. We can obviously get into position, but just can't finish it off. We desperately need a striker who can actually find the net in this window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 I reckon we are and certainly the players should perform as if we are, every point now is crucial but I'm still confident that we'll finish mid-table ! COYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trout-Tickler Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 Given our current form you can't say that we're not. The attitude from some on here that we don't need to be worried as those below us are to crap to catch up smacks of arrogance and burying their head in the sand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 I reckon we are and certainly the players should perform as if we are, every point now is crucial but I'm still confident that we'll finish mid-table ! COYS Quite simply, we need to start taking our f*cking chances. If we do, we will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 Last season we replaced the departed players with ones that were generally as good as if not better. This season all of the replacements have not been anywhere near as good. We look less solid at the back and still have the problem we had last season where we fail to take our chances. IMO we are not yet in a relegation battle but if we do not get some points in the next few games then we will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 Four points from the last 24 available. If you replicate the last eight results over the remaining 18 games, we take nine more points and finish on 35 points. In the last five season, if a team has finished on 35 points then it has not been enough to survive. If you replicate the last 3 results we would take 18 points, and finish on 42. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 Quite simply, we need to start taking our f*cking chances. If we do, we will be fine. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 If you replicate the last 3 results we would take 18 points, and finish on 42. Which will still mean squeaky bum time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr00031 Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 People said before the arsenal game, losing to West Ham and Norwich will put us in a relegation battle. The Arsenal match is looking more and more like a freak result... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 If you replicate the last 3 results we would take 18 points, and finish on 42. We get your gist. You dont really think we are in a real relegation battle...many do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 Given our current form you can't say that we're not. The attitude from some on here that we don't need to be worried as those below us are to crap to catch up smacks of arrogance and burying their head in the sand. That is what I have been saying for some time now. Gradually people have come over to my way of thinking an about time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 If you replicate the last 3 results we would take 18 points, and finish on 42. Which this season will probably mean relegation. 40 points is the usual target I know, but it is so close this season that 40 will probably not be enough. Anyone who seriously still thinks that we are not heading towards possible relegation is simply kidding themselves. I still think it won't happen, but we need to start turning things around very soon an grinding out some results, a 0-0 today would have been acceptable against one of our potential rivals for the drop, losing against our rivals is a real problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 (edited) Which this season will probably mean relegation. 40 points is the usual target I know, but it is so close this season that 40 will probably not be enough. Anyone who seriously still thinks that we are not heading towards possible relegation is simply kidding themselves. I still think it won't happen, but we need to start turning things around very soon an grinding out some results, a 0-0 today would have been acceptable against one of our potential rivals for the drop, losing against our rivals is a real problem. 42 points would mean relegation? 42 points meant 14th last season and 12th and 13th the two before that, but yeah, you're probably right. Also 40 points has meant relegation once in this millennium and that was more than a decade ago. But yeah. Bang on. Edited 2 January, 2016 by CB Fry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 (edited) Which this season will probably mean relegation. 40 points is the usual target I know, but it is so close this season that 40 will probably not be enough. Anyone who seriously still thinks that we are not heading towards possible relegation is simply kidding themselves. I still think it won't happen, but we need to start turning things around very soon an grinding out some results, a 0-0 today would have been acceptable against one of our potential rivals for the drop, losing against our rivals is a real problem. How many games do you think Sunderland and Newcastle are going to win out of their last 18, considering they've each only won 4 of the 20 played so far. 40 points has been 'safe' every season since 2002-2003, ( WHU went down with 42 ). Edited 2 January, 2016 by badgerx16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 We get your gist. You dont really think we are in a real relegation battle...many do At present, I don't. If we don't get a reasonable return from the next 4 or 5 games, and the north-eaterners suddenly, magically, find some consistent form, that may change. For a non-drinker, my glass is is usually at least half full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 At present, I don't. If we don't get a reasonable return from the next 4 or 5 games, and the north-eaterners suddenly, magically, find some consistent form, that may change. For a non-drinker, my glass is is usually at least half full. Sunderland won today and by all accounts Newcastle were by far the better team at the Emirates so it would seem it might not need 'magic' for them to be breathing down our necks in the coming weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 Sunderland won today and by all accounts Newcastle were by far the better team at the Emirates so it would seem it might not need 'magic' for them to be breathing down our necks in the coming weeks. Indeed. I hate Sunderland - but they are experienced at this relegation-battle lark. I'd have been much happier had they lost today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 Don't think it is way out there that Newcastle could get 8 more points than us over the rest of the season Chelsea certainly won't go down. See how Swansea get a new manager bounce when that comes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 Everton have got just 2 more points than we have. Do you think that they are worried about relegation right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 Everton have got just 2 more points than we have. Do you think that they are worried about relegation right now? maybe. Probably have their eye on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 i am honestly not sure, but something is not right at the club. having suffered 2 relegation's from top flight i only know its results that count not opinions or performances we need to start winning and soon or we will be in a battle to survive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 Everton have got just 2 more points than we have. Do you think that they are worried about relegation right now? Just had a quick look on the grand old team forum and the first three threads I clicked on all mentioned the R word. So the answer to your question would appear to be yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 Yes we are, it's amazing how so many people get deluded after a couple of good seasons. There are loads of examples of teams getting into Europe then relegated the season after, like Hull last season. In 2003 we were a model club, thought we'd cracked it. Yet in 2005 we finished bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 Everton have got just 2 more points than we have. Do you think that they are worried about relegation right now? Might have something to do with them not having lost 7 of their last 9 games. The only reason we are not currently in the relegation zone is because we picked up some points early on. That's fine and good that we did, but we show no signs of doing so on a regular basis in the near future without making some significant changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 How many games do you think Sunderland and Newcastle are going to win out of their last 18, considering they've each only won 4 of the 20 played so far. 40 points has been 'safe' every season since 2002-2003, ( WHU went down with 42 ). I really don't have a clue how many Sunderland might win, they are not really the issue. Can Newcastle win 3 more than us in the remainder of the season? You bet your life they can. They won 4 of their first 19, so if they win 4 of their last 19 and we win 1 then they could overtake us (simplistically speaking). Will they? Don't know, but that's all its down to now. Don't assume 40 will be safe this season, it is highly likely with the results so far that this will be one of those statistically unusual seasons when more than 40 is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 Just had a quick look on the grand old team forum and the first three threads I clicked on all mentioned the R word. So the answer to your question would appear to be yes. Ha, probably trolls and bedwetters of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 Yes we are, it's amazing how so many people get deluded after a couple of good seasons. There are loads of examples of teams getting into Europe then relegated the season after, like Hull last season. In 2003 we were a model club, thought we'd cracked it. Yet in 2005 we finished bottom. Couldn't have put it better myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Kerplunk Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 If we are not in a relegation battle, we are far too bloody close for comfort, and the Arsenal result aside, we are being sucked in rapidly, and that is actually not good enough for the potential we have had over the last few years. If we hadn't had a peek at what could be possible then I doubt anyone would be as worried about relegation but you can't remove the opportunity we have had to maintain our progress as if it never happened. We are struggling, and as long as those who can help RK know this, then we can hopefully get back on track, and rebuild in the summer. Again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downthe36 Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 Think we will be okay, but far more nervy than it needed to be, the worry is that Newcastle and/or Sunderland will creak into life in the new year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 Quite simply, we need to start taking our f*cking chances. If we do, we will be fine. Yup. We're in relegation form and it needs sorting pronto, but we're not in a battle yet. Two more rounds of results not going our way and we're there, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 We are in a relegation battle. No brainier. We are appallingly run. No ambition in our Boardroom who have turned us in to a selling club. Players expect to leave when they peak and we are seeing that play out now. 'Operate within our means' philosophy is flawed if we wish to stay in the Premier League. Only way forward is going to be a new wealthier owner and new talent to run the club. Koemans will go at the end of their contract if not. I don't think we will reinforce this winter and sadly can see no chance of anything other than further asset stripping in the summer. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 I really don't have a clue how many Sunderland might win, they are not really the issue. Can Newcastle win 3 more than us in the remainder of the season? You bet your life they can. They won 4 of their first 19, so if they win 4 of their last 19 and we win 1 then they could overtake us (simplistically speaking). Will they? Don't know, but that's all its down to now. Don't assume 40 will be safe this season, it is highly likely with the results so far that this will be one of those statistically unusual seasons when more than 40 is required. You think we're going to win one game between now and the end of the season? Christ. After 20 games last year the team third from bottom had 17 which is identical to this season. There's nothing at all to suggest that 40 points will be required for survival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 We are in a relegation battle. No brainier. We are appallingly run. No ambition in our Boardroom who have turned us in to a selling club. Players expect to leave when they peak and we are seeing that play out now. 'Operate within our means' philosophy is flawed if we wish to stay in the Premier League. Only way forward is going to be a new wealthier owner and new talent to run the club. Koemans will go at the end of their contract if not. I don't think we will reinforce this winter and sadly can see no chance of anything other than further asset stripping in the summer. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Comedy gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 Comedy gold. Head in the sand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 We are in a relegation battle. No brainier. We are appallingly run. No ambition in our Boardroom who have turned us in to a selling club. Players expect to leave when they peak and we are seeing that play out now. 'Operate within our means' philosophy is flawed if we wish to stay in the Premier League. Only way forward is going to be a new wealthier owner and new talent to run the club. Koemans will go at the end of their contract if not. I don't think we will reinforce this winter and sadly can see no chance of anything other than further asset stripping in the summer. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Can you explain what you think our strategy should be? Why are we appallingly run? What would you do differently? How do you equate spending £40m on a training facility with the asset stripping you allege is happening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBizzier69 Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 Points wise we're as much in a relegation battle as we are battling for a Europa spot. Seems much more like mid-table (ish) mediocrity to me. When we're 1 or 2 points off 17th with 8-10 games left, I'll start considering it a relegation battle. Concerning? A little. For me, nothing more at this stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 Well our form is certainly relegation material and if we get caught I fear for us. Not yet but getting uncomfortably close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 Quite simply, we need to start taking our f*cking chances. If we do, we will be fine. This is the critical thing. We should have had the West Ham game sewn up at HT, but didn't. Today according the BBC stats we had possesion, and shots. A worrying stat is 9 corners, which should be a golden opportunity for us, but our corners tend to be pathetic affairs where the GK gathers the ball unchallenged. I wondered in the summer where our goals would come from, given how timid we are in front of goal. Rodriguez was never going to be the answer as - Fulham away aside - he always needed about 4 chances before he'd take one of them. Long is proven as a goal in every four games. Not sure we have the answer available to us in the squad as it is. Having scored twice against Arsenal, Long will dine out on that for weeks, and isn't due another goal for about 8 games. This problem is compounded by our mistake riddled defence.Martina, Yoshida we expect the errors from, but it appears pretty contagious this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 The curse of Caulker. Relegated with Cardiff. Then QPR. Saints next??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 Can you explain what you think our strategy should be? Why are we appallingly run? What would you do differently? How do you equate spending £40m on a training facility with the asset stripping you allege is happening? Ignore.. He pipes up with this when things are not going well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 2 January, 2016 Share Posted 2 January, 2016 Head in the sand Could you? Would do us a favour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 3 January, 2016 Share Posted 3 January, 2016 If we go down it will be 100% down to Koeman , not The Board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 3 January, 2016 Share Posted 3 January, 2016 My recommendation is to sign up with a free bet to a betting company and put that on Saints to be relegated, easiest money you'll ever make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 3 January, 2016 Share Posted 3 January, 2016 Our home form is the key for now. We need to be the 12th man and cheer the team towards 4 more home wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 3 January, 2016 Share Posted 3 January, 2016 We are still 50/1 to be relegated. ffs everyone forgot Arsenal quickly. We are all fuming over last two games but no one couldn't argue that we could've/should've won both and things look so different. It ain't rosy but the hysterical nonsense spouted by so many beggars belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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