Saint Charlie Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 So Ronald has said if we sign anyone in Jan then it will be a striker and after Ron said Pelle needs injections in his knee to play then it would seem like a good idea. What sort of striker would people target attribute wise? Obviously you want someone who can score goals (!) but for me we should be looking at someone who has a physical presence to help link with Tadic and Mane but who is more mobile than Pelle and can occassionally stretch defences in behind. Probably for what we will spend there isn't anyone like that though. Austin is often mentioned here but allegedly wants monster wages (and lucratively is a free agent in the summer) plus RK said he is too expensive. Does he also fit our style and link well enough with players around him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintMB Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 Ability to get a shot on target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 jSo Ronald has said if we sign anyone in Jan then it will be a striker and after Ron said Pelle needs injections in his knee to play then it would seem like a good idea. What sort of striker would people target attribute wise? Obviously you want someone who can score goals (!) but for me we should be looking at someone who has a physical presence to help link with Tadic and Mane but who is more mobile than Pelle and can occassionally stretch defences in behind. Probably for what we will spend there isn't anyone like that though. Austin is often mentioned here but allegedly wants monster wages (and lucratively is a free agent in the summer) plus RK said he is too expensive. Does he also fit our style and link well enough with players around him? i wouldn't have thought the transfer fee is too expensive for Austin but the wages would be the stumbling block. That means any striker is likely to come from abroad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 (edited) A goal scoring striker! I think it also depends on how we plan to play and if its as cover or a new main man ! Edited 12 December, 2015 by simo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 12 December, 2015 Author Share Posted 12 December, 2015 Would Afobe really do the business versus the price he would probably cost? Hasn't been great this season and recently dropped by Wolves. Depends what sort of club we view ourselves as but seeing how high profile the PL is and how big the wages are I reckon we could get someone better. Otherwise play Jay Rod up top once he is fit in Jan/Feb because he is better than Afobe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 Pacey attacking winger and a mobile centre forward would be ideal. Who those signings would be I have no idea. I worry it would be further loan signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 12 December, 2015 Author Share Posted 12 December, 2015 Pacey attacking winger and a mobile centre forward would be ideal. Who those signings would be I have no idea. I worry it would be further loan signings. Loans probably most likely in Jan unless buying someone the selling club doesn't really want. Could also depend on Juanmi and Ramirez's futures in Jan. Gaston will be hard to shift on his money which probably restricts us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 I want us to sign some English players. I liked the English core that we had before and I know we sold a load for good money, there are still out there that would be good signings. So, Austin for me please, a proven goal scorer, he'll do nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpweySaint Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 Basically a Lukaku-esque type player with direct running, some pace, decent finishing, strong physical presence and effective link-up play. If a player has all of that already and is available to us for a fair price I would eat my hat but it might be worth gambling on potential - especially if we consider this season a bit of non-starter - they could have 6 months pressure free to find their feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 13 December, 2015 Share Posted 13 December, 2015 Austin please, the boy has got goals in him and is a known quantity. We also need cover at centre back and competition at right back. For once, the Board needs to suck it up and spend some real money in a January transfer window or it will be a jarring season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 13 December, 2015 Share Posted 13 December, 2015 Jordan Rhodes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 13 December, 2015 Share Posted 13 December, 2015 Austin please, the boy has got goals in him and is a known quantity. We also need cover at centre back and competition at right back. For once, the Board needs to suck it up and spend some real money in a January transfer window or it will be a jarring season... Isn't he still out through injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebastian firefly Posted 13 December, 2015 Share Posted 13 December, 2015 MICHY BATSHUAYI from Marseille JONATHAN CALLERI from Bocai o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebastian firefly Posted 13 December, 2015 Share Posted 13 December, 2015 or just out bid everyone for ICARDI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebastian firefly Posted 13 December, 2015 Share Posted 13 December, 2015 id make this fella my no 1 target offer 20 blow the rest out the water he s the next Aguero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 13 December, 2015 Share Posted 13 December, 2015 If we are willing to pay higher wages, Sebastian Giovinco would be a good target for us. However, he would become our highest paid player since he is making at least 89K pounds a week in Toronto. Given his age the transfer fee would probably be affordable and he does score. If we are not willing to pay higher wages then it is unlikely we can find a striker in January who can actually improve the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 13 December, 2015 Share Posted 13 December, 2015 be nice to actually get some quality, not a shane long or a gamble from holland. whilst palce, stoke and west ham are able to sign quality!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 13 December, 2015 Share Posted 13 December, 2015 Isn't he still out through injury? Came on as sub yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 13 December, 2015 Share Posted 13 December, 2015 Austin is proven in this league, fee will be relatively low to free money up for wages. He's hard working and a better finisher than anyone in our team. Would be top of my list. Fed up of hearing about the wages issue. Palace are well run, probably have less income than us, certainly haven't earned as much as us in transfer windows, yet could afford Cabaye. I don't think they're going bankrupt anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 13 December, 2015 Share Posted 13 December, 2015 has to be Austin. Decent fee and would come here. of course, how could we compete with palace, stoke and west ham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 13 December, 2015 Share Posted 13 December, 2015 of course, how could we compete with palace, stoke and west ham [emoji38] What are you making up now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 13 December, 2015 Share Posted 13 December, 2015 id make this fella my no 1 target offer 20 blow the rest out the water he s the next Aguero well he does have a nice finish I'll grant you that.. but those aren't Premier League defenders he's playing against ...if you watch that clip again, you'll see there's scarcely a defender within 3 yards of him in most of those goal sequences... plus I've never seen 3 more stupid goalies in one clip....and by the way....he's already 20% towards his first suspension - for taking off his shirt in a goal celebration.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 13 December, 2015 Share Posted 13 December, 2015 Came on as sub yesterday so did Pelle, but it doesn't mean either of them is fit enough to play a whole 90 min. game.....clearly Austin isn't fully fit, or he'd have been in the start 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 13 December, 2015 Share Posted 13 December, 2015 Austin is proven in this league, fee will be relatively low to free money up for wages. He's hard working and a better finisher than anyone in our team. Would be top of my list. Fed up of hearing about the wages issue. Palace are well run, probably have less income than us, certainly haven't earned as much as us in transfer windows, yet could afford Cabaye. I don't think they're going bankrupt anytime soon. I don't entirely disagree, but Crystal Palace has a new American Investor lined up. The implication is that they are going to be spending as allowed under financial fair play which means they can lose 35 million pounds a year (not including costs of the youth program) unless they are playing in Europe. Our owner wants us to be self supporting which means break even including the youth program. Add to that the appeal of living in London and Crystal Palace can be a more attractive destination for players who want big salaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivepete Posted 13 December, 2015 Share Posted 13 December, 2015 If we are going to change our style to accommodate someone like Austin, I would rather see Ryan Seager given a go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 13 December, 2015 Share Posted 13 December, 2015 If we are going to change our style to accommodate someone like Austin, I would rather see Ryan Seager given a go why would we have to change our style to accommodate austin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 13 December, 2015 Share Posted 13 December, 2015 I'd still rather have an attacking, creative midfielder than an out and out striker if we had to choose between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 13 December, 2015 Share Posted 13 December, 2015 With the Euros round the corner some fringe players may be welcoming of a move,I know not many would be keen but Remy would be a decent signing if Chelsea signed a new striker in Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 13 December, 2015 Author Share Posted 13 December, 2015 Not in Austin's interest to move in Jan as he will be a free agent in June and can negiotate himself a monster deal. His fee might be seemingly attainable but the apparent 80k wage demands he had in the summer surely aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 13 December, 2015 Share Posted 13 December, 2015 Came on as sub yesterday Ta. There must be a transfer window coming up in a couple of weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 13 December, 2015 Share Posted 13 December, 2015 why would we have to change our style to accommodate austin? Agreed. Isn't he a replica of Pelle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Uwe Posted 13 December, 2015 Share Posted 13 December, 2015 I know many will disagree, but if Lambert becomes available from West Brom then I really think we should sign him up on a short-term deal. He loves the club, the fans love him, and although he's had a rubbish 18 months, I reckon he could help give us a boost and would be ideal competition for Pelle. He hasn't become a rubbish player overnight, it just hasn't worked out at Liverpool and West Brom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 13 December, 2015 Share Posted 13 December, 2015 (edited) With a "big man"...(a Pelle ...or Lambert - as was) you tie up two big central defenders...whereas someone like (e.g. Long) has a turn of pace that Pelle doesn't possess. Shane Long has extra pace, and can ride a tackle ....but he doesn't play down the middle, which leaves the opposing CB's " free" to defend. Mane and Long can make ground fast, but will always be outnumbered by opposition CB's. Therefore the system changes (as yesterday) in order to give them a chance. As if we couldn't have guessed... " the knock" that Pelle took a couple of games ago was worse that feared and hasn't cleared up sufficiently for him to start games. With Jay Rod out indefinitely, Shane Long is the only "established striker" we have, and we have to use him. Even if Pelle plays he won't be 100%. Mane is a law unto himself. At best, he can be unplayable........at worst.. he runs up blind alleys and can be easily knocked off the ball by the average defender. and ..whenever he is fouled ....his falls look " theatrical " (to say the least)... and we rarely win freekicks, despite all the fouls that he actually receives. If we don't play Pelle (or a "big man") then we need more attacking options, which means wingers (like Tadic) but we still need someone in the box to put away chances. Without a fully fit Pelle, and an uncertain return for JayRod, we have to find a formation that can play to an alternative pattern. Until January (that's a possible 12 points to win / lose) we have no other options. Only Koeman can decide which alternative he wants ....for the rest of the season. Edited 13 December, 2015 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 13 December, 2015 Share Posted 13 December, 2015 R.v.p worth a punt ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 13 December, 2015 Author Share Posted 13 December, 2015 R.v.p worth a punt ? Come again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 13 December, 2015 Share Posted 13 December, 2015 Charlie Austin should of signed him at the start of the season we rely way to much on Pelle, Austin proven track record of getting goals in the Prem is a good target man youngish what more do you want? get it done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 13 December, 2015 Share Posted 13 December, 2015 What we need is a player that can score goals and manufacture goals in the goal mouth then play to him. If that leaves Pelle on the bench, so be it. We also need to be more positive from midfield, anybody who can't make runs and support the strikers whilst getting some goals in the process need to go. We don't need five defenders and three holding midfielders, then when chasing the game swop a holding midfielder who scored last week for one who has never scored from play in four seasons. Charlie Austin if he can pass the medical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 13 December, 2015 Share Posted 13 December, 2015 Charlie Austin should of signed him at the start of the season we rely way to much on Pelle, Austin proven track record of getting goals in the Prem is a good target man youngish what more do you want? get it done! ....but not for £15 million .... He was " last season's Jamie Vardy" - and the only reliable goal source that QPR had in one bad season in the Prem. [/b] NOTE: If Vardy were to get a serious injury .....I'm not sure where Leicester's goals would come from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 13 December, 2015 Share Posted 13 December, 2015 A winger would help, and an actual attacking midfielder. Said in the summer I think Ramirez is the only one we actually have and doesn't play. The rest are either pretty defensive, or play wide like tadic. It's a major problem as consistently playing 3 midfielders who are hugely unlikely to score makes us predictable. It was enough of a problem when it was wanyama Davis and Morgan, but at least Morgan got forward and was capable of 5 a season. I'd be surprised if Davis, wanyama, Clasie and romeu get 5 between them this season! Bare minimum we need another attacker. If we have any ambition left we need to improve CB and right back, and replace Ramirez too. Agree, would like Wilson from Bournemouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScepticalStan Posted 13 December, 2015 Share Posted 13 December, 2015 R.v.p worth a punt ? No chance we can afford his wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portugalsaint Posted 14 December, 2015 Share Posted 14 December, 2015 Why not? Nothing to lose, especially to a "cash strapped club"!I know many will disagree, but if Lambert becomes available from West Brom then I really think we should sign him up on a short-term deal. He loves the club, the fans love him, and although he's had a rubbish 18 months, I reckon he could help give us a boost and would be ideal competition for Pelle. He hasn't become a rubbish player overnight, it just hasn't worked out at Liverpool and West Brom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 14 December, 2015 Share Posted 14 December, 2015 We need a striker who can score consistently, that is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 14 December, 2015 Share Posted 14 December, 2015 If we don't have a lot of funds for a new striker, how about Loic Remy from Chelsea. Hardly plays and would have extra motivation of tring to in the France team for the euros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 14 December, 2015 Share Posted 14 December, 2015 And now he's just scored for Chelsea. Forget what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackedoff Posted 14 December, 2015 Share Posted 14 December, 2015 Just take a punt on someone from the Dutch league on the cheap or spend big on a " Latin " type player, been really successful with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 14 December, 2015 Share Posted 14 December, 2015 (edited) It's really difficult to imagine us playing without a strong, tall striker. When's the last time we went regularly without one? At least seven or eight years, and even further back if you want to remember the last time we did it and played well. If we're going to bring in a genuine alternative to Pelle - or even a replacement - it will require either a similar type or a rethink of how we play which I don't think we can do in the middle of the season. I'm not sure what Koeman has in mind but I suppose what he might fancy is someone to plug the gap left by Rodriguez. I'd be very pleased to sign someone of that ilk but don't have any suggestions. As for the names mentioned: I'm a fan of Remy's when he plays properly but I question his commitment and his wage demands. Austin is a hugely expensive injury risk. Callum Wilson is promising but little more at this stage, and obviously isn't an option for January anyway. I don't watch any foreign leagues but suspect the best options are from outside the Premiership. I was fascinated by our interest in Javier Hernandez but that's a dead duck now. I'd still rather have an attacking, creative midfielder than an out and out striker if we had to choose between the two. I agree with this, too. I'd much rather have a Cabaye or Sigurdsson with Pelle than Davis with another striker, good as he is. I quite fancy Wijnaldum if Newcastle go down. Edited 14 December, 2015 by DuncanRG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 15 December, 2015 Share Posted 15 December, 2015 I've just watched Austin score a couple of proper goal poacher goals. All night he made clever runs into channels and dangerous areas. We need a player that can score those goals, we have nobody that can work the space in the penalty area like Austin. Pay whatever it takes. We have far too many fringe players getting great money so pay what it takes to guarantee the goals we don't score now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasper57saint Posted 15 December, 2015 Share Posted 15 December, 2015 I've just watched Austin score a couple of proper goal poacher goals. All night he made clever runs into channels and dangerous areas. We need a player that can score those goals, we have nobody that can work the space in the penalty area like Austin. Pay whatever it takes. We have far too many fringe players getting great money so pay what it takes to guarantee the goals we don't score now. This. His second goal was scored as he was being seriously wrestled yet he was still able to break free.I agree with Derry. Pay the money after all he is a Saint! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 15 December, 2015 Share Posted 15 December, 2015 Reported today that Remi Grade is prepared to sell Agbonlahor to finance bringing players in......any thoughts?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 16 December, 2015 Share Posted 16 December, 2015 Reported today that Remi Grade is prepared to sell Agbonlahor to finance bringing players in......any thoughts?? That he is fat and lazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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