Ohio Saint Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 Yep. I'm very disappointed. It seems we have found our level at the moment, eternal mid-table stalwarts. It's not the fairy tale we were hoping for from the last few years. Anyone else given up already on the league and just hoping for an FA Cup run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JxgrSaint Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 Yep. I'm very disappointed. It seems we have found our level at the moment, eternal mid-table stalwarts. It's not the fairy tale we were hoping for from the last few years. Anyone else given up already on the league and just hoping for an FA Cup run? Well Gazzaniga being Man of the Match by some distance is a surer harbinger of the apocalypse than seeing 4 blokes on multicoloured horses riding down the high street.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 Trying to find positives...when I saw the team selection I thought we would get tonked. At least Gazza has shown he isn't complete pants. Erm. That is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 played alright very poor as an attacking threat. again, slow, lots of hoofs and loads of shots off target pretty average side now. be lucky to finish top half. Very lucky Romeu was alright, Gazza my MoM Long is crap, Mane is greedy but the whole attacking force seems to rely on him when we do not hoof it pretty boring side these days. two massively tough games coming up and we will have to be miles better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 Good goalkeeping from both sides, not a bad match for the neutral (or Palace fan who likes a good game). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 I seem to recall Gazza impressed on his last appearance for us too. Much improved from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 If our finishing was half decent this would be a very different season so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 Thing is, I don't mind us losing a game if we've played well. But the tactics and the ability to shoot on target across the entire team is absolutely woeful. Mane is looking like a shadow of his former self - probably because he believes his own hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 Weird tactics, weird selection and another poor display, Gazzaniga aside. Have totally lost the pressing, tempo and energy we used to have. Poor summer signings mean we aren't better than lots of teams we were superior to last year. Others have improved and we have made ourselves worse being trying to be too clever in the transfer market. Top 10 seems a bit of a way off considering upcoming fixtures. Very disappointing, and fans becoming disillusioned with the team which is never good. Only a short time ago we had academy players playing, 5 Eng Intls etc and a lot of positive feeling about the club. Even the press conferences are so negative now and negativity breeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 One draw (against bottom club) and 4 defeats from our last 5 games, is a dreadful run. People need to wake up and see that we are not progressing, we are going backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 I thought it was pretty awful to be honest. Palace didn't need to get out of second gear. We look a disinterested, tired team who are lucky they've already got 20 points. £40 to watch that live, what a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5string Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 Yet another goalie having the game of his life .... against us. Or are we just not good enough at finding the target with confidence, giving the keeper half a chance to make the save? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 I thought we were okay against a good side, especially as we were lacking key players. Romeu's "half-marking" job against Cabaye decided it. A 12 million striker should be putting the last-minute chance away. I'll stick with my pre-season view - that we'll have a weaker first half of the season but a much stronger second half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 Yep. I'm very disappointed. It seems we have found our level at the moment, eternal mid-table stalwarts. It's not the fairy tale we were hoping for from the last few years. Anyone else given up already on the league and just hoping for an FA Cup run? I've given up on both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 We were very sloppy at times today. Gave the ball away, didn't track runners, didn't tackle and with some poor defending but we did play some good stuff. We're not far away. Just need to dominate the midfield more like we used to and give ourselves a platform to build on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lickierambert Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 We are just really average nowadays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackedoff Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 Weird tactics, weird selection and another poor display, Gazzaniga aside. Have totally lost the pressing, tempo and energy we used to have. Poor summer signings mean we aren't better than lots of teams we were superior to last year. Others have improved and we have made ourselves worse being trying to be too clever in the transfer market. Top 10 seems a bit of a way off considering upcoming fixtures. Very disappointing, and fans becoming disillusioned with the team which is never good. Only a short time ago we had academy players playing, 5 Eng Intls etc and a lot of positive feeling about the club. Even the press conferences are so negative now and negativity breeds. Can't disagree with any of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 Wanyama a big reason for poor build up play. He loses the ball so often this season and those 50/50 moments where he beasts players off the ball don't seem to win us possession anymore. Any point point keeping him beyond? His performances showcase his desire to leave for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarakka Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 Thing is, I don't mind us losing a game if we've played well. But the tactics and the ability to shoot on target across the entire team is absolutely woeful. Mane is looking like a shadow of his former self - probably because he believes his own hype. Precisely, no progress and we're still woeful. I've been cautiously positive about things but it's about time we started getting some points on the board, there's only relegation candidates below us right now. I dread the day when Mané is gone, where are the goals going to come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 12 December, 2015 Author Share Posted 12 December, 2015 As an older supporter, I'm accustomed to Saints losing. It's always a disappointment. The worst thing for me is our loss of momentum. The last few years have been amazing, but now, we are apparently finding our level in the premier league, and it feels like going cold turkey from a heroin addiction. I'm not angry, I'm just huddled in a corner shouting at faces in the sky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
explorer saint Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 Don't panic but we slipping fast .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 Yet another goalie having the game of his life .... against us. Or are we just not good enough at finding the target with confidence, giving the keeper half a chance to make the save? Oh come on, without the 4 or 5 good saves from Gazza their keeper doing well wouldn't have mattered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 If your 3rd sub when your chasing a game is JWP, you know it's game over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 As an older supporter, I'm accustomed to Saints losing. It's always a disappointment. The worst thing for me is our loss of momentum. The last few years have been amazing, but now, we are apparently finding our level in the premier league, and it feels like going cold turkey from a heroin addiction. I'm not angry, I'm just huddled in a corner shouting at faces in the sky I'll have to take your word for that then, we need better creative midfielders and we'll probably be a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobes8 Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 We look so limited at the moment, pedestrian midfield, no pressing and lack of any creative spark. Board been awfully quiet recently too. Transfer window needs to be good otherwise seasons going nowhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 We haven't found our level, our level has been way, way above this for a couple of years, while playing infinitely better football, that's why people are ****ed off. In a season when real progress was possible given the top 4's erratic results, we have gone majorly downhill under a very confused manager. Basically, it was there to go for... and rather than investing, Les Reed got all Sweaty palms sold the best we had left and invested in players that need to develop into their replacements over a couple of years... Instead, we should have spent a bit of dosh on 2 players from last years team and gotten a top 4 birth. Chance gone for another 2 generations like as not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 I don't think it's fair to blame Koeman for this one. The tactics were OK, both in the first half and then when we changed shape and brought on Tadic and Pelle. The problem is that we are severely lacking quality in our attacking play. We only created two real chances today, with Davis drawing save of the season from Hennessey, and Long doing what Long does in injury time - a PL striker simply has to be doing better with chances like that. One positive to take from today is that Gazzaniga put in an excellent performance and made some crucial saves. Good to see that he is much improved from the 'rabbit in headlights' act that he used to do when called up to the first team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 If your 3rd sub when your chasing a game is JWP, you know it's game over. Yep, so what's wrong with Clasie then or has his mum sent in a note that he's not allowed to play with the big kids.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 How many of our shots have gone miles over the bar this year? So frustrating... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 (edited) No real positives to the overall performance besides Gazzaniga. Setting up defensively only works when the players chosen can actually defend. Bertrand stood out as particularly poor today, did practically nothing right. Wanyama, Fonte and Yoshida were all abysmal too. Edited 12 December, 2015 by Bewildered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanimal Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 Yet another crap Saturday evening, do the team have any idea how it screws up the weekend? Only SCD and XF to look forward to, aint going neat MOTD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killers Knee Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 As an older supporter, I'm accustomed to Saints losing. It's always a disappointment. The worst thing for me is our loss of momentum. The last few years have been amazing, but now, we are apparently finding our level in the premier league, and it feels like going cold turkey from a heroin addiction. I'm not angry, I'm just huddled in a corner shouting at faces in the sky ¨ I think we we are heading to our level, we will find it after the sales of Pelle, Tadic, Mane, Wanyama & Van Dijk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 to be fair, we have a bottom 4 budget which is incredible when players, staff and people running the club come out with champions league aspirations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 ¨ I think we we are heading to our level, we will find it after the sales of Pelle, Tadic, Mane, Wanyama & Van Dijk. We will be relegation fodder at that rate as we continue our strategy of economy replacements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 to be fair, we have a bottom 4 budget which is incredible when players, staff and people running the club come out with champions league aspirations. So you wont moan if we finish in the bottom 4 then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 Koeman saying performance was "very positive" and the wind was a big factor. Hmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 Koeman: Positive performance Wind a factor We controlled the game Second half played well but we have to score A point was deserved. One defensive mistake cost us. Gazza made good saves Overall performance positive. Physical problems with Stek and Pelle. We didn't give up. Adam: how worried are you? Worried about results but not worried about the way we played. Lads showed good energy and we deserved a point. We need too many chances to score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 Koeman saying performance was "very positive" and the wind was a big factor. Hmmm. As much as I love Ron, I wish he wouldn't talk about the weather. It is the same for both sides and he has been in the game long enough to know that you have to perform in all weather conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 to be fair, we have a bottom 4 budget which is incredible when players, staff and people running the club come out with champions league aspirations. Nail on the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 I was ridiculed pre-season for saying that the likes of Palace and Stoke and Leicester had all strengthened well and that I didn't feel that we were any better than them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 Very sound game from Gazzaniga. good kicking, very good distribution, some outstanding saves, Why did we ever play KD ahead of him this season. The team selection was original but worked reasonably well if a bit toothless. It was a pretty high tempo game and that goal was enough. Twenty five minutes to go Koeman decided to give it a go however Pelle looks ineffective and has the ball control of an elephant. Tadic ran round in ever decreasing circles and Mane looked like he was playing on ice the number of times he slipped over. Long got into two really good positions but lacked the skill to score. Having said that Palace defended as if their lives depended on it and worked hard against us. So there we were ten minutes to go and Koeman turns to Square ball and back passing expert JWP to add to the momentum. Six square and backwards passes later one forward pass into the box and it was all over. While Ramirez is here and in full training trying to save a game bringing on JWP is crass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 Gone backwards massively. The players on a whole played as well as they could have. Fair play to Gazzaniga. He made some good saves. I think a loan move will benefit him massively when Forster comes back. Shane Long is a massive pile of ****. He isn't good enough for where the board claim we want to be. A decent striker finishes that chance he has. Can't see us getting anything from our next three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 If Ron actually believes that then we have much bigger problems than I thought. Very worrying indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 Stats Palace Soton Possession 43% 57% Goal attempts 12 15 Shots on goal 5 3 Shots off goal 3 8 Blocked shots 4 4 Keeper saves 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 I was ridiculed pre-season for saying that the likes of Palace and Stoke and Leicester had all strengthened well and that I didn't feel that we were any better than them. No. You were ridiculed because you're an ITK fantasist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 We simply do not put enough of our chances away. Poor strikers and midfielders who seldom shoot on target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 I was ridiculed pre-season for saying that the likes of Palace and Stoke and Leicester had all strengthened well and that I didn't feel that we were any better than them. Would you have posted this after the Chelsea game a couple of weeks back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffnut Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 Another average performance, got nothing, deserved nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 I was ridiculed pre-season for saying that the likes of Palace and Stoke and Leicester had all strengthened well and that I didn't feel that we were any better than them. Well you must be a lot happier now then, mustn't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 How long before RK + Team lose the fans backing, if this form continues...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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