supersonic Posted 31 December, 2015 Posted 31 December, 2015 Probably 2010. Fonte and Puncheon. Otherwise 2012 with Sharp and Lee. He said good signings, not ones who's Saints career was shared for half a season with each other.
shurlock Posted 31 December, 2015 Posted 31 December, 2015 (edited) He said good signings, not ones who's Saints career was shared for half a season with each other. That they didn't pan out is irrelevant, though a case can be made that Sharp helped us get over the line. Fact remains both were £1m+ signings which by our standards were relatively ambitious at the time. HTH. Edited 31 December, 2015 by shurlock
Batman Posted 31 December, 2015 Posted 31 December, 2015 have to agree. Sharp was vital in the run-in. More so as it went to the very last game
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 31 December, 2015 Posted 31 December, 2015 I think the club should send e mails out to the transfer experts on here and generate a list of players to go for. Then do a poll of the most wanted and buy from that, that would sort it.
Batman Posted 31 December, 2015 Posted 31 December, 2015 I think the club should send e mails out to the transfer experts on here and generate a list of players to go for. Then do a poll of the most wanted and buy from that, that would sort it. Martina would probably come bottom in such poll
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 31 December, 2015 Posted 31 December, 2015 Martina would probably come bottom in such poll Already signed so can't be in the list
Batman Posted 31 December, 2015 Posted 31 December, 2015 Already signed so can't be in the list exactly. your idea seems to be a good one
Saint Billy Posted 31 December, 2015 Posted 31 December, 2015 Why dont we look in the lower leagues, surely there is talent there good enough to bring on instead of wasting money on unknown foreign imports who find it difficult to settle into the Prem.
sadoldgit Posted 31 December, 2015 Posted 31 December, 2015 it is where we are just on the cusp of a relegation scrap very low budgets compared to most. WBA, Norwich and Bournemouth are now are immediate rivals. Not Liverpool and Spurs We are also on the cusp of European football.
Kenilworthy Posted 31 December, 2015 Posted 31 December, 2015 SRL apparently available. Could possibly do a short term job as an attacking midfield player as he can pass the ball better than anyone currently in the side. Would also make us more dangerous with free-kicks.
Saints foreva Posted 31 December, 2015 Posted 31 December, 2015 SRL apparently available. Could possibly do a short term job as an attacking midfield player as he can pass the ball better than anyone currently in the side. Would also make us more dangerous with free-kicks. He can't even get in WBA's side.
Winnersaint Posted 31 December, 2015 Posted 31 December, 2015 K U N T doesn't even begin to describe you, you plunger wielding dustbin. If we get relegated, so be it, not ideal but will reflect that we weren't good enough over 38 games. Disappointing yes, end of the world, no! Will I still be Saint's fan? Yes. Will we get relegated? Don't thinks so, think we are in a rebuilding/consolidating phase. It's all part of the rich tapestry of being a Saint's fan. Embrace it!
Winnersaint Posted 31 December, 2015 Posted 31 December, 2015 He is not a WUM ! Complacency will see us get relegated. The clubs immediately below us are about to strengthen and fight for their EPL status, make no mistake. If we sit on our hands we will go down. K U N T doesn't even begin to describe you, you plunger wielding dustbin. If we get relegated, so be it, not ideal but will reflect that we weren't good enough over 38 games. Disappointing yes, end of the world, no! Will I still be Saint's fan? Yes. Will we get relegated? Don't thinks so, think we are in a rebuilding/consolidating phase. It's all part of the rich tapestry of being a Saint's fan. Embrace it!
benjii Posted 31 December, 2015 Posted 31 December, 2015 You're all K U N T S. Happy New ****ing Year.
Kenilworthy Posted 31 December, 2015 Posted 31 December, 2015 He can't even get in WBA's side. Not being selected by Pulis is a very positive endorsement of a footballer
Graffito Posted 1 January, 2016 Posted 1 January, 2016 Plunger wielding dustbin. I like it. Wtf is it?
Wade Garrett Posted 1 January, 2016 Posted 1 January, 2016 What do you mean by that? It's not exactly cryptic. We tend to make profits in windows, unlike any other Premier League clubs.
JxgrSaint Posted 1 January, 2016 Posted 1 January, 2016 Plunger wielding dustbin. I like it. Wtf is it? Presumably referring to Dalek - body being the dustbin, eye bit being the plunger on a stick...
InvictaSaint Posted 1 January, 2016 Posted 1 January, 2016 Sky reporting that Sunderland want to sign Caulker from QPR and that his loan to us would, obviously, be terminated.
Give it to Ron Posted 1 January, 2016 Posted 1 January, 2016 Sky reporting that Sunderland want to sign Caulker from QPR and that his loan to us would, obviously, be terminated. Hope that happens as that would be another relegation place claimed [emoji3]. He needs a run of games to get match fit and after his Liverpool nightmare not sure he us what we need. Gardos will be back soon hopefully. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Batman Posted 1 January, 2016 Posted 1 January, 2016 Hope that happens as that would be another relegation place claimed [emoji3]. He needs a run of games to get match fit and after his Liverpool nightmare not sure he us what we need. Gardos will be back soon hopefully. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk agree, thought Caulker would have bee a decent signing. He has been horrendous to be fair. More worryingly, we have had him on 'our radar' for some time
scotty Posted 1 January, 2016 Posted 1 January, 2016 SRL apparently available. Could possibly do a short term job as an attacking midfield player as he can pass the ball better than anyone currently in the side. Would also make us more dangerous with free-kicks. Even if big ron wanted him, I doubt that he'd want to move this far back down south. Part of the reason for his dippers move was to move his family back near merseyside, wasn't it?
Sour Mash Posted 1 January, 2016 Posted 1 January, 2016 It's not exactly cryptic. We tend to make profits in windows, unlike any other Premier League clubs. It is a bit cryptic I'm afraid. How much have they stuffed in their back pockets?
Wade Garrett Posted 1 January, 2016 Posted 1 January, 2016 It is a bit cryptic I'm afraid. How much have they stuffed in their back pockets? If you think it's cryptic you must be super sh*t at crosswords! Tot up selling fees and then subtract purchases.
Sour Mash Posted 1 January, 2016 Posted 1 January, 2016 If you think it's cryptic you must be super sh*t at crosswords! Tot up selling fees and then subtract purchases. There is no way you seriously think its that simple. What a limited outlook.
Roger Posted 1 January, 2016 Posted 1 January, 2016 If the club acted like fans wanted, we'd be broke before long. We're not going to spend much money in January, we never really do - 2011 in L1 being the single exception. I'd rather keep the funds in the back pocket until the summer and we can then work out what we need with a much better view over an entire season. Clubs who splash money in January rarely succeed in the long term. No but we do need a boost after losing our 3 best players in the summer. We signed fonte and puncheon in Jan and neither of those worked out bad long term.
hypochondriac Posted 1 January, 2016 Posted 1 January, 2016 There is no way you seriously think its that simple. What a limited outlook. Clearly though we have made a lot of money and should have some left over for reinforcements.
Sour Mash Posted 1 January, 2016 Posted 1 January, 2016 Clearly though we have made a lot of money and should have some left over for reinforcements. How much ? How much historic debt have we had to pay off?
Give it to Ron Posted 1 January, 2016 Posted 1 January, 2016 How much ? How much historic debt have we had to pay off? Do you think a better right back than we have would cost a fortune? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Window Cleaner Posted 1 January, 2016 Posted 1 January, 2016 Clearly though we have made a lot of money and should have some left over for reinforcements. Not really, the problem is incoming fees tend to get overestimated and outgoing fees underestimated. We have sold players for somewhere around 120 million over the last 2 summers, with the purchases made and the loan fees paid I don't see there being a whole lot left.
Sour Mash Posted 1 January, 2016 Posted 1 January, 2016 Do you think a better right back than we have would cost a fortune? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk No. What does that have to do with my post?
SuperSAINT Posted 1 January, 2016 Posted 1 January, 2016 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/west-ham/12077288/West-Ham-target-Leeds-wonderkid-Sam-Byram-in-cut-price-deal.html
shurlock Posted 1 January, 2016 Posted 1 January, 2016 (edited) Not really, the problem is incoming fees tend to get overestimated and outgoing fees underestimated. We have sold players for somewhere around 120 million over the last 2 summers, with the purchases made and the loan fees paid I don't see there being a whole lot left. I's also suggest that the wages for our new signings (leaving aside Long) - now we've stopped signing 'names' are much lower than the players we've replaced. Either way, it's safe to say we're both in the dark, though you wouldnt think that from your usual bluster. Edited 1 January, 2016 by shurlock
hypochondriac Posted 1 January, 2016 Posted 1 January, 2016 Not really, the problem is incoming fees tend to get overestimated and outgoing fees underestimated. We have sold players for somewhere around 120 million over the last 2 summers, with the purchases made and the loan fees paid I don't see there being a whole lot left. So what about the TV money then?
Wade Garrett Posted 1 January, 2016 Posted 1 January, 2016 There is no way you seriously think its that simple. What a limited outlook. It is absolutely how I see it.
hypochondriac Posted 1 January, 2016 Posted 1 January, 2016 I's also suggest that the wages for our new signings (leaving aside Long) - now we've stopped signing 'names' are much lower than the players we've replaced. Either way, it's safe to say we're both in the dark, though you wouldnt think that from your usual bluster. Yep that too. I'm guessing Wanyama, Mane and Fonte are on a fair amount though.
Sour Mash Posted 1 January, 2016 Posted 1 January, 2016 It is absolutely how I see it. Explains how you've got it wrong I guess.
Wade Garrett Posted 1 January, 2016 Posted 1 January, 2016 Explains how you've got it wrong I guess. We have different opinions, let's leave it there.
SW5 SAINT Posted 1 January, 2016 Posted 1 January, 2016 Sky reporting that Sunderland want to sign Caulker from QPR and that his loan to us would, obviously, be terminated. Would we get our 1.5m loan fee back?
shurlock Posted 1 January, 2016 Posted 1 January, 2016 Yep that too. I'm guessing Wanyama, Mane and Fonte are on a fair amount though. Fonte clearly will be, though I'd be surprised if Mané, as a young player signed from a minor and poorer European League, is. Of course, that would change drastically if we get him to sign a new contract, that's unlikely to happen.
Sour Mash Posted 1 January, 2016 Posted 1 January, 2016 Yep that too. I'm guessing Wanyama, Mane and Fonte are on a fair amount though. And we've now got to be pay for Stekelenberg and Forster, Gardos and Caulker. Two wages for one position in affect. Plus a bit more squad depth. Plus, I'd imagine Bertrand is on more than Shaw for example, so swings and roundabouts.
Verbal Kint Posted 1 January, 2016 Posted 1 January, 2016 I's also suggest that the wages for our new signings (leaving aside Long) - now we've stopped signing 'names' are much lower than the players we've replaced. Either way, it's safe to say we're both in the dark, though you wouldnt think that from your usual bluster. You think the combined wages of the major signings we've made in the last two summer windows are less than the sum of the wages of the major players we've sold?
Dig Dig Posted 1 January, 2016 Posted 1 January, 2016 Fonte clearly will be, though I'd be surprised if Mané, as a young player signed from a minor and poorer European League, is. Of course, that would change drastically if we get him to sign a new contract, that's unlikely to happen. When Mane was linked to Utd in the summer I think it was reported that he was on 25K a week. Whilst some of our top players are on wages around this figure (if true), it's easy for other clubs to double or treble their wages overnight.
Whitey Grandad Posted 1 January, 2016 Posted 1 January, 2016 You think the combined wages of the major signings we've made in the last two summer windows are less than the sum of the wages of the major players we've sold? Why do you think they left, if it wasn't for more money?
VectisSaint Posted 1 January, 2016 Posted 1 January, 2016 Sky reporting that Sunderland want to sign Caulker from QPR and that his loan to us would, obviously, be terminated. It was also being reported that Palace are after him. Rangers want to sell him, and he wants a permanent move sorted out, unless Saints are prepared to convert him to a permanent then he is likely going to be out of here this month. Personally I would not want to sign him, if Gardos is expected back soon, we also have Jack Stephens back.
saint lard Posted 1 January, 2016 Posted 1 January, 2016 Tonny Vilhena is quite possibly on his way here. Perhaps Wanyama will get his much desired move. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
SuperSAINT Posted 1 January, 2016 Posted 1 January, 2016 Tonny Vilhena is quite possibly on his way here. Perhaps Wanyama will get his much desired move. He's nothing like Big Vic. Totally different type of midfielder.
Batman Posted 1 January, 2016 Posted 1 January, 2016 Tonny Vilhena is quite possibly on his way here. Perhaps Wanyama will get his much desired move. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk exciting stuff
Verbal Kint Posted 1 January, 2016 Posted 1 January, 2016 Why do you think they left, if it wasn't for more money? Not sure what you mean there Players out: Lambert, Lallana, Chambers, Shaw, Lovren, Cork, Morgan, Clyne, (Toby) Players in: Mane, Long, Tadic, Bertrand, Forster, Pelle, Gardos, (Toby), VVD, Stek, Clasie, Juanmi, Romeu, Cedric, (Caulker) plus a new contract for Fonte and paying up Osvaldo's contract early I would have thought it's fairly obvious our wage bill is significantly higher now than it was 2 years ago. The board have used some of the funds to invest in the wage bill clearly, whether they needed to or not due to the increase in TV money is a more important question. This summer I expect Mane, Wanyama and possibly Pelle to go (and more we will get rid of Ramirez's wages) and 6 or 7 first team squad signings made, which would require the wage bill to grow again, hopefully this is where we will start to see the new TV deal at play
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