CityRanger Posted 15 January, 2016 Posted 15 January, 2016 Why would Austin sign for us now but not move till the summer. Nah, be to play at United onwards To trouser the signing on/ transfer fee himself rather than QPR? It is a possibility but personally I agree with those saying it'll be for now.
the saint in winchester Posted 15 January, 2016 Posted 15 January, 2016 According to the bookies we're faves to get Austin. Hope so! We didn't go for Blackman, Afobe, Gray.... either we have a target in mind or we are going for no-one. I would have said Austin is a lot of money wages wise, but we need to be going for someone!
shurlock Posted 15 January, 2016 Posted 15 January, 2016 (edited) I've never really got the injury prone thing with him. He's played a lot of games over the last 4 or 5 seasons Apart from supposedly failing a medical at Hull and missing QPR's promotion run-in, among many other things. We don't even have to pick apart Sullivan's comments. Concerns are well-justified. Edited 15 January, 2016 by shurlock
waylander Posted 15 January, 2016 Posted 15 January, 2016 As was mentioned in the QPR fan forum - maybe Austin wants a place in the squad for the Euros and for that he needs to be scoring in the Premiership.
the saint in winchester Posted 15 January, 2016 Posted 15 January, 2016 It also makes me wonder if there was more to the Caulker loan cancellation than meets the eye, maybe talks were happening on a few fronts. I thought that too, immediately, when the Caulker release was mooted. We are scratching QPR's back, and maybe there was payback to follow?
the saint in winchester Posted 15 January, 2016 Posted 15 January, 2016 I would agree. But when K Billy speaks. Usually comes off Yeah, but K.Billy said nothing, just an applause icon. Don't jump to conclusions. But hopefully going through.
SuperSAINT Posted 15 January, 2016 Posted 15 January, 2016 Great news if true! I assume he's fit enough to pass a medical?
Pancake Posted 15 January, 2016 Posted 15 January, 2016 Hmmmm. Pelle or Long or Mane on the way then. No way we will have those 3, Austin and at some point Jay. Austin will be a "replacement before the other player goes". My money is on Pelle, which will be gutting IMHO.
Saint Matty 76 Posted 15 January, 2016 Posted 15 January, 2016 Pelle will go to Italy in the Summer, not really got a problem with it if we have Austin, Long, Rodriguez (maybe) and hopefully a progressing Seager.
CB Fry Posted 15 January, 2016 Posted 15 January, 2016 Yeah, but K.Billy said nothing, just an applause icon. Don't jump to conclusions. But hopefully going through. It was a thumb up. Anyway, that is what K Billy does on here re incoming transfers. Actually makes more me confident that any words. KBSS is usually on the money. Let's hope we see something official tomorrow.
CityRanger Posted 15 January, 2016 Posted 15 January, 2016 I thought that too, immediately, when the Caulker release was mooted. We are scratching QPR's back, and maybe there was payback to follow? He could sign a pre contract and move here officially in the summer. Meanwhile replacing Caulker as a domestic loan on our books for the rest of the season and he can try and make the Euro's. We'll see.
Batman Posted 15 January, 2016 Posted 15 January, 2016 He could sign a pre contract and move here officially in the summer. Meanwhile replacing Caulker as a domestic loan on our books for the rest of the season and he can try and make the Euro's. We'll see. Why on earth would Austin limit himself to saints by signing now but not moving till the summer? Not as if we would do that either.
Roger Posted 15 January, 2016 Posted 15 January, 2016 K Billy also said that Clyne was staying. He's not always right.
CB Fry Posted 15 January, 2016 Posted 15 January, 2016 Why on earth would Austin limit himself to saints by signing now but not moving till the summer? Not as if we would do that either. People are thinking too much about this. If we sign him, we sign him and he will be playing for us.
Saint Charlie Posted 15 January, 2016 Posted 15 January, 2016 I'm probably in a minority, but I don't really see a lot of the hype around Austin and don't especially think he would be a brilliant signing. Certainly not for a team that views itself as chasing a European spot if thats the case. Also this season we arent going down nor getting a European spot so if he wants to join, wait til the summer and save £6-8m which seems much more a Saints type policy.
Sour Mash Posted 15 January, 2016 Posted 15 January, 2016 If we do sign him and Pelle is still with us this season, it'll be interesting to see how it all fits together, Pelle or Austin first choice. Worse problems to have.
Batman Posted 15 January, 2016 Posted 15 January, 2016 I'm probably in a minority, but I don't really see a lot of the hype around Austin and don't especially think he would be a brilliant signing. Certainly not for a team that views itself as chasing a European spot. 18 premier league goals last season? That would cost £30m in most cases Long cost £12m and he will get you 8 goals a season
CB Fry Posted 15 January, 2016 Posted 15 January, 2016 I'm probably in a minority, but I don't really see a lot of the hype around Austin and don't especially think he would be a brilliant signing. Certainly not for a team that views itself as chasing a European spot if thats the case. Also this season we arent going down nor getting a European spot so if he wants to join, wait til the summer and save £6-8m which seems much more a Saints type policy. As soon as we sign Austin we should look to sell him to reinvest.
Saint Charlie Posted 15 January, 2016 Posted 15 January, 2016 As soon as we sign Austin we should look to sell him to reinvest. Obviously no point signing him then?
Suhari Posted 15 January, 2016 Posted 15 January, 2016 Austin would be brilliant. A natural goalscorer. When did we last have one of those? SRL?
Golden Balls Posted 15 January, 2016 Posted 15 January, 2016 With the amount of chances we create he could thrive!
shurlock Posted 15 January, 2016 Posted 15 January, 2016 Austin would be brilliant. A natural goalscorer. When did we last have one of those? SRL? Would say that Connolly was a more natural goalscorer than Lambert, though obviously Lambert's contribution and all-round game were significantly bigger.
GGalpin Posted 15 January, 2016 Posted 15 January, 2016 Would say that Connolly was a more natural goalscorer than Lambert, though obviously Lambert's contribution and all-round game were significantly bigger. Billy Sharp, even just for six months?
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 15 January, 2016 Posted 15 January, 2016 So is this looking likely then? Seen the K,Billy hint, just need Guan to come and finalise it, I guess! Had seen some hints at a West Ham move for him but I wonder if he'd still fancy going there after this back in August... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-3205031/Charlie-Austin-hits-outrageous-slur-West-Ham-chairman-David-Sullivan-questioned-QPR-star-s-physical-condition.html
Sour Mash Posted 15 January, 2016 Posted 15 January, 2016 (edited) Austin would be brilliant. A natural goalscorer. When did we last have one of those? SRL? Pelle and Lambert pretty equal in my eyes. Edited 15 January, 2016 by Sour Mash
DrZuess1979 the 2nd Posted 15 January, 2016 Posted 15 January, 2016 With the amount of chances we create he could thrive! Definitely this Could be our missing link this season, that's not taking anything away from pelle Where to play Mane though, who is useless on the wings
Saints foreva Posted 15 January, 2016 Posted 15 January, 2016 Alex Crook @alex_crook 4m4 minutes ago Been asked by a couple of people about Charlie Austin to #saintsfc rumours. Do not believe they are in for him. Must be happening then.
Saint86 Posted 15 January, 2016 Posted 15 January, 2016 Pelle and Lambert pretty equal in my eyes. That is disgraceful.
Restark19 Posted 15 January, 2016 Posted 15 January, 2016 Alex Crook @alex_crook 4m4 minutes ago Been asked by a couple of people about Charlie Austin to #saintsfc rumours. Do not believe they are in for him. Must be happening then. don't be mean, Saintsweb is his main source of information. He'll read that and be very sad.
Saint Charlie Posted 15 January, 2016 Posted 15 January, 2016 More fool the people that actually think to ask Crook... That said, do find it hard to believe this one.
whelk Posted 15 January, 2016 Posted 15 January, 2016 We are 1/3 to get him at the mo. 4/1 to stay at QPR https://m.skybet.com/football/transfer-specials/event/18286879
angelman Posted 15 January, 2016 Posted 15 January, 2016 The odds only reflect the position the bookies take having had money lumped on it, rather than them being ITK. Of course some ITK might have lumped a lot on him coming here, but that's not for sure.
Heisenberg Posted 15 January, 2016 Posted 15 January, 2016 I put £900 on him signing for us. Did that 3 days ago at 7/1..... Make of that what you will
Chez Posted 15 January, 2016 Posted 15 January, 2016 (edited) So is this looking likely then? Seen the K,Billy hint, just need Guan to come and finalise it, I guess! Had seen some hints at a West Ham move for him but I wonder if he'd still fancy going there after this back in August... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-3205031/Charlie-Austin-hits-outrageous-slur-West-Ham-chairman-David-Sullivan-questioned-QPR-star-s-physical-condition.html Bilic said a few days ago that they had no interest in Austin. Pardew said the same. Austin himself burned his bridges with Newcastle by snubbing them in the summer. Perhaps there aren't as many options for him as first thought. Wait until the summer and might be able to get a bigger wage by turning a transfer fee into his signing on fee. But his wage demands will still be large, his goals return will start to fade from the memory and his reputation for injuries may have increased. Add to that, he completely wipes out any chance of an England squad place by staying at QPR, so as much as he says he will wait until the summer...I'm sure of the wage is right he won't hesitate to move in this window. But will we pay that massive wage? If he's still the sharp,and ruthless player that I saw tear us apart whilst at Swindon then I hope so. Edited 15 January, 2016 by Chez
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 15 January, 2016 Posted 15 January, 2016 The odds only reflect the position the bookies take having had money lumped on it, rather than them being ITK. Of course some ITK might have lumped a lot on him coming here, but that's not for sure. Agreed. It's the K,Billy thumbs up which intrigues me....
Saint IQ Posted 16 January, 2016 Posted 16 January, 2016 I'm excited, no doubt that he will be a great signing if he stays injury free.
Red Posted 16 January, 2016 Posted 16 January, 2016 Austin would be brilliant. A natural goalscorer. When did we last have one of those? SRL? Ted MacDougall. The finest goal poacher there ever was, and glad to say I saw him score plenty for us :-)
Matthew Le God Posted 16 January, 2016 Posted 16 January, 2016 People still bringing up Charlie Austin being "injury prone". Lets look at the last 5 seasons... 2011/12 Saints played 46 league games, Austin played 41 2012/13 Saints played 38 league games, Austin played 37 2013/14 Saints played 38 league games, Austin played 31 2014/14 Saints played 38 league games, Austin played 35 2015/16 Saints played 21 league games, Austin played 16 In total in the last 5 seasons, Saints have played 181 league games and in that time Charlie Austin has played in 160 league games = 88% of the number of league games our club has played in the time period.
shurlock Posted 16 January, 2016 Posted 16 January, 2016 (edited) People still bringing up Charlie Austin being "injury prone". Lets look at the last 5 seasons... 2011/12 Saints played 46 league games, Austin played 41 2012/13 Saints played 38 league games, Austin played 37 2013/14 Saints played 38 league games, Austin played 31 2014/14 Saints played 38 league games, Austin played 35 2015/16 Saints played 21 league games, Austin played 16 In total in the last 5 seasons, Saints have played 181 league games and in that time Charlie Austin has played in 160 league games = 88% of the number of league games our club has played in the time period. First, your numbers are woefully misleading. In 2013/14, QPR were in the championship and played 46 league games, so he missed a larger share of their games (around a third of the season). Pointing to the number of games we played in the prem with fewer fixtures is plain irrelevant. This season he's played 16 of 26 games (60% of games), so again your benchmark is way off. What ultimately matters is being available for the team at the time. You're being either willfully or unwittingly obfuscatory. Second, the past is not necessarily a guide to the future; nor does it always reveal a player's proneness to injury. That's the purpose of a medical which is as much a forward-looking assessment -and the fact is numerous red flags have been raised (see his failed medical at Hull and Sullivan's comments). With time, age and general wear and tear, those risks typically become larger. Edited 16 January, 2016 by shurlock
SaintStinger Posted 16 January, 2016 Posted 16 January, 2016 Simple fact of the matter is he's scored loads of goals every season (17 at worst) since he went to Swindon regardless of time out with injuries. His failed medical didn't stop him scoring either. Also worth noting is that Hull didn't seem to care much about George Boyd's failed medical at Forest before signing him.
georgeweahscousin Posted 16 January, 2016 Posted 16 January, 2016 Am I allowed to get my hopes up then? I genuinely think with Austin in place of Long, we would have 6 points rather than 0 from West Ham and Norwich and would still be in the cup....
SaffaSaint Posted 16 January, 2016 Posted 16 January, 2016 How old is austin Sent from my GT-S5301 using Tapatalk
Batman Posted 16 January, 2016 Posted 16 January, 2016 How old is austin Sent from my GT-S5301 using Tapatalk 26 i think
CB Fry Posted 16 January, 2016 Posted 16 January, 2016 Bilic said a few days ago that they had no interest in Austin. Pardew said the same. Austin himself burned his bridges with Newcastle by snubbing them in the summer. Perhaps there aren't as many options for him as first thought. Wait until the summer and might be able to get a bigger wage by turning a transfer fee into his signing on fee. But his wage demands will still be large, his goals return will start to fade from the memory and his reputation for injuries may have increased. Add to that, he completely wipes out any chance of an England squad place by staying at QPR, so as much as he says he will wait until the summer...I'm sure of the wage is right he won't hesitate to move in this window. But will we pay that massive wage? If he's still the sharp,and ruthless player that I saw tear us apart whilst at Swindon then I hope so. Not sure his wage expectation is so massive that we can't pay it and aren't already paying someone else similar. It's Charlie Austin from QPR, not Neymar we're signing.
georgeweahscousin Posted 16 January, 2016 Posted 16 January, 2016 Not sure his wage expectation is so massive that we can't pay it and aren't already paying someone else similar. It's Charlie Austin from QPR, not Neymar we're signing. If Gaston is off... that should cover it.
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 16 January, 2016 Posted 16 January, 2016 If Gaston is off... that should cover it. Plus there's the Caulker-related saving too. Maybe we've knocked some of the loan fee off any deal for Austin?
simo Posted 16 January, 2016 Author Posted 16 January, 2016 Reports that Liverpool are keen on signing Shane Long. According to the Irish Daily Star: "Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp [is] keen on acquiring [shane Long] before the end of the current transfer window". In a radio interview today with Newstalk, Mark McCadden - who broke the story for the Irish Daily Star - added: "Liverpool are definitely interested, and he [Long] is high on [Liverpool’s] list". In my view, Long is a very Rodgers-esque transfer target, but according to Steven Nicol, the Irish international would be a great signing for the club: “They [Liverpool] spent £16m on Balotelli but I would prefer someone like Shane Long. He might not have the same ability, but the fans will love him, [and] he'll give you everything". Reds hero Phil Thompson doesn't share Nicol's enthusiasm for Long, and when asked last season about the possibility of a move to Anfield, he told reporters: “Shane Long has had really good spells this year but I think he’s inconsistent as a goalscorer” Thommo is right - Long's goalscoring inconsistency is there for all to see: * 15 goals in 58 games for Southampton (One every 208 minutes). The last thing Liverpool need is another allegedly attacking player who fails to score/create goals on a regular basis. Says for 8m too why would we entertain selling him for 4m less than we brought him for ?
thorpie the sinner Posted 16 January, 2016 Posted 16 January, 2016 Have been banging on about Austin for ages now, to my mind, he is the poacher we are desperate for. I remember Ted Mcdougall scoring against Sheff U in my first ever game in 77, Austin would be a similar player. Think the fans will love him. Confident, brash and a goal scorer to boot! Okay, it may not happen, but for K Billy to pop up with a thumbs up, that's good enough for me! FWIW I think it would be Pelle to make way, I love the running Long puts in and 8 goals isn't a bad return, think he would relish playing alongside!
Batman Posted 16 January, 2016 Posted 16 January, 2016 Says for 8m too why would we entertain selling him for 4m less than we brought him for ? you would expect to sell long for nothing short of £12m. if he was to leave
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