Ed Rooney Posted 14 December, 2015 Share Posted 14 December, 2015 Why spend 8 million on him to get him in in January when he's on a bosman in the summer? We aren't going down, we aren't getting into Europe, so it seems unnecessary to pay big money when we don't really need to...? No idea why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 14 December, 2015 Share Posted 14 December, 2015 European Football Top Scorers 2015/2016 [TABLE=width: 100%] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD=width: 70, align: center]Goals Scored[/TD] [TD=width: 70, align: center]Penalties[/TD] [TD=width: 70, align: center]Golden Shoe Points[/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]1 [/TD] [TD=width: 100][/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #DFDFDF]Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang Borussia Dortmund[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #DFDFDF, align: center]20[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #DFDFDF, align: center]3[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #DFDFDF, align: center]40[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]2 [/TD] [TD=width: 100][/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #E1E1E1]Neymar Barcelona[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #E1E1E1, align: center]17[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #E1E1E1, align: center]3[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #E1E1E1, align: center]34[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]3 [/TD] [TD=width: 100][/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #E2E2E2]Jamie Vardy Leicester City[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #E2E2E2, align: center]17[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #E2E2E2, align: center]3[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #E2E2E2, align: center]34[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]4 [/TD] [TD=width: 100][/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #E4E4E4]Thomas Muller Bayern Munich[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #E4E4E4, align: center]17[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #E4E4E4, align: center]4[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #E4E4E4, align: center]34[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]5 [/TD] [TD=width: 100][/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #E6E6E6]Zlatan Ibrahimovic PSG[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #E6E6E6, align: center]16[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #E6E6E6, align: center]4[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #E6E6E6, align: center]32[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]6 [/TD] [TD=width: 100][/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #E8E8E8]Benjamin Moukandjo Lorient[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #E8E8E8, align: center]15[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #E8E8E8, align: center]4[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #E8E8E8, align: center]30[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]7 [/TD] [TD=width: 100][/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #EAEAEA]Luis Suarez Barcelona[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #EAEAEA, align: center]14[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #EAEAEA, align: center]1[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #EAEAEA, align: center]28[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]8 [/TD] [TD=width: 100][/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #EDEDED]Gonzalo Higuain Napoli[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #EDEDED, align: center]14[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #EDEDED, align: center]0[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #EDEDED, align: center]28[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]9 [/TD] [TD=width: 100][/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F0F0F0]Robert Lewandowski Bayern Munich[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F0F0F0, align: center]14[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F0F0F0, align: center]0[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F0F0F0, align: center]28[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]10 [/TD] [TD=width: 100][/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5]Eder Sampdoria[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: center]13[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: center]3[/TD] [TD=bgcolor: #F5F5F5, align: center]26[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] We were linked with Eder before I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 14 December, 2015 Share Posted 14 December, 2015 Why spend 8 million on him to get him in in January when he's on a bosman in the summer? We aren't going down, we aren't getting into Europe, so it seems unnecessary to pay big money when we don't really need to...? We are only 7 points away from 18th which is 3rd from bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 14 December, 2015 Share Posted 14 December, 2015 No idea why Why do it in January? So we get half a season out of a goalscoring forward, rather than relying on an apparently injured Pelle, a crocked J-Rod and $hLong. And so possibly push back into and stay in the top 10. Plus it gives him plenty of time to settle, get used to the team and so start next season firing on all cylinders. And lets get Chambers too......immediate competition for RB, and perhaps the long term replacement for Fonte. C'mon Big Kat: chequebook time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 14 December, 2015 Author Share Posted 14 December, 2015 Good idea, he would probably struggle to make an impact in our u21s like he is for Spurs reserves. He knows his time at Spurs has come to an end , hes hardly going to bust a gut for their reserves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 14 December, 2015 Share Posted 14 December, 2015 Apart from Blackman (and most on that list) just wouldn't give Pelle any serious competition which is the whole point of bringing someone in. We are an established PL side and can pay good salaries. We can attract better than a midtable Championship striker with just one decent half season to his name. We might pay "good salaries" but we don't pay the type of salary you need to attract or keep top players. You want a top guy ? It's 80K a week minimum. You want a really top top guy, you're looking at 100K and plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 14 December, 2015 Share Posted 14 December, 2015 We might pay "good salaries" but we don't pay the type of salary you need to attract or keep top players. You want a top guy ? It's 80K a week minimum. You want a really top top guy, you're looking at 100K and plus. Obviously not some world class striker. But we can surely pay enough to get someone better than the likes of Blackman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 14 December, 2015 Share Posted 14 December, 2015 Obviously not some world class striker. But we can surely pay enough to get someone better than the likes of Blackman? Why would we want someone like Blackman ? If you're looking for cheap and cheerful you might as well play academy lads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 14 December, 2015 Share Posted 14 December, 2015 He knows his time at Spurs has come to an end , hes hardly going to bust a gut for their reserves So, we should try to sign someone who doesn't give a **** Think we have more sense and hopefully we won't do business with Spurs anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 14 December, 2015 Share Posted 14 December, 2015 Why would we want someone like Blackman ? If you're looking for cheap and cheerful you might as well play academy lads. Exactly. Thats what I was getting at. We can do better than Championship strikers with one goal streak to their name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 14 December, 2015 Author Share Posted 14 December, 2015 So, we should try to sign someone who doesn't give a **** Think we have more sense and hopefully we won't do business with Spurs anyway. You dont think hes been treated badly ? I'd take him and 8m for wanyama (and use the 8m for Austin) in January! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 14 December, 2015 Share Posted 14 December, 2015 Let's just offer £50M for Vardy. I'd like to remind the group that I recommended going for Vardy, Mahrez and Ulloa when Leicester looked to be down and out and about to be relegated. You lot shot me down in flames saying they were c-rap. Still think that?????????????????? (OK, 2 of the 3 I would still take.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 15 December, 2015 Share Posted 15 December, 2015 You dont think hes been treated badly ? I'd take him and 8m for wanyama (and use the 8m for Austin) in January! Nope, just think he'not very good and unlike Hodgson his club knows it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 15 December, 2015 Share Posted 15 December, 2015 Flabby Gabby could be available in January, not that I'm advocating him. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3360070/Remi-Garde-listen-offers-Gabby-Agbonlahor-forward-s-10-year-spell-Aston-Villa-end-January.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivepete Posted 15 December, 2015 Share Posted 15 December, 2015 Saw the HCDAJFU thread and was going to be my suggestion. Still don't know why we didn't go for Butland and Redmond when Brum were on their knees. Can you point me to the story We did go for Butland but his mentor went to Stoke, that is why he joined them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 15 December, 2015 Share Posted 15 December, 2015 Austin scores for QPR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 15 December, 2015 Share Posted 15 December, 2015 Austin scores his second, now QPR 2-2 Brighton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 15 December, 2015 Share Posted 15 December, 2015 Would be on board with Gray (Brum) if that is true, loads of pace, goes past players for fun, exciting to watch. Him and Mane in the same team would worry most teams, like Zaha and Bolasie do at Palace. He has ridiculous balance: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 15 December, 2015 Share Posted 15 December, 2015 Austin just said in an interview he is not leaving in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 15 December, 2015 Share Posted 15 December, 2015 We won't spend big on a striker. He wouldn't play with pelle, and there's no way we'll be dropping pelle. Austin would be great back up but he'd want more than that. If we sign a striker it'll be a cheaper squad option. I like pelle I just think he needs more pace around him on the wings and a number 10 behind who can also score. Agreed, that pretty much be my take on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 15 December, 2015 Share Posted 15 December, 2015 Agreed, that pretty much be my take on it. Pace on wing: Demarai Gray. No.10: Hakim Ziyech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 15 December, 2015 Share Posted 15 December, 2015 Austin just said in an interview he is not leaving in January. Being a free agent gives you more choices plus a good signing on fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 16 December, 2015 Share Posted 16 December, 2015 Austin is an excellent penalty box player but, like others have said, there isn't room in the team for him and Pelle. We need a creative central player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 16 December, 2015 Share Posted 16 December, 2015 Austin is an excellent penalty box player but, like others have said, there isn't room in the team for him and Pelle. We need a creative central player. If Pelle needs injections to play, it would be worth having someone like Austin to start every other game so Pelle can be much healthier when he does start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 16 December, 2015 Share Posted 16 December, 2015 Don't know any names but we need someone who can play in midfield (in any position) who can carry the ball past someone and open things up for other players. Someone with pace or someone who is powerful. Don't care who. Doesn't need to be good at much else either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 December, 2015 Share Posted 16 December, 2015 Don't know any names but we need someone who can play in midfield (in any position) who can carry the ball past someone and open things up for other players. Someone with pace or someone who is powerful. Don't care who. Doesn't need to be good at much else either. Well that sounds like someone who'd probably cost a fair bit of money, doubt that we'll be getting one of those then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 16 December, 2015 Share Posted 16 December, 2015 If Pelle needs injections to play, it would be worth having someone like Austin to start every other game so Pelle can be much healthier when he does start. This thing about Pelle needing injections. Was this actually said somewhere? The only reference I can find to injections before the last game was about Stek who had injections for his toe injury, but they did not have the desired effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 16 December, 2015 Share Posted 16 December, 2015 Well that sounds like someone who'd probably cost a fair bit of money, doubt that we'll be getting one of those then... Maybe, I don't know what other qualities Saints would deem are important which would impact the price. But I think that is what the team really needs at the moment and it would make a big difference. There aren't many other teams in the league who have so little pace or power as us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 16 December, 2015 Share Posted 16 December, 2015 This thing about Pelle needing injections. Was this actually said somewhere? The only reference I can find to injections before the last game was about Stek who had injections for his toe injury, but they did not have the desired effect. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/14142018.Southampton_striker_Pelle_to_have_injection_in_injured_knee/?ref=mac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 16 December, 2015 Share Posted 16 December, 2015 We need a goal scorer like Remy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 16 December, 2015 Share Posted 16 December, 2015 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/14142018.Southampton_striker_Pelle_to_have_injection_in_injured_knee/?ref=mac Cheers. So he was going to have an injection after the game, not before it, to see if available for Spuds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 16 December, 2015 Share Posted 16 December, 2015 Iturbe from Roma is available apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 16 December, 2015 Share Posted 16 December, 2015 Iturbe from Roma is available apparently Looks like hes going to watford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JxgrSaint Posted 16 December, 2015 Share Posted 16 December, 2015 Twente have been banned from European football for 3 years - could try and get Ziyech from them to provide competition for Steven Davis? 20 goals in 47 appearances is just what we are missing from a midfielder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted 16 December, 2015 Share Posted 16 December, 2015 from the evening with ronald koeman: A whole stack of fan questions now… are you going to buy a striker in January? If we sign a new player, it will be a striker. Is it going to be Charlie Austin? He’s too expensive. not sure what expensive means, but he's clearly looking for something on the cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 16 December, 2015 Share Posted 16 December, 2015 It says Ronald's still interested in Vilhena. Please Lord, no more Dutch League players. There are plenty of decent players in the UK. http://www.football-oranje.com/southampton-still-interested-in-vilhena/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 16 December, 2015 Share Posted 16 December, 2015 Here is who I would get: Hakim Ziyech: Twente: Attacking Mid: will offer creativity and goals hopefully young talent! Luuk De Jong - PSV : Striker: I would lay down decent money and get him in! young good strike record competition for Pelle Andros Townsend: Attacking Mid: other option for midfield will bring him in on loan and get rid of Caulker. Kevin Diks - right back cover for Soares young 18 years old with alot of potential Considerations: Sam Byram Will hughes Demarai Gray Tom Ince Charlie Austin Break the bank to get: Breel Embolo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 16 December, 2015 Share Posted 16 December, 2015 The links with Solly March will die down now as he's been ruled out for the season with a knee injury. More of a winger than a striker so maybe not one Ronald was thinking of as a striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 16 December, 2015 Share Posted 16 December, 2015 Expect a loan or someone unwanted and available on the cheap. We are operating on a bottom 4 budget after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 16 December, 2015 Share Posted 16 December, 2015 Iturbe from Roma is available apparently not to us on our bottom 4 budget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 16 December, 2015 Share Posted 16 December, 2015 Id like a right winger/midfielder with good pace- and drop Davis down to a deeper position with Wanyama. JWP/Clasie/Romeu as reserves/allow us to mix it up a bit. We'd all like two quality players for each position but for a club like us that will never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted 16 December, 2015 Share Posted 16 December, 2015 Id like a right winger/midfielder with good pace- and drop Davis down to a deeper position with Wanyama. JWP/Clasie/Romeu as reserves/allow us to mix it up a bit. We'd all like two quality players for each position but for a club like us that will never happen. agree with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WealdSaint Posted 16 December, 2015 Share Posted 16 December, 2015 Isn't the idea of the black box to find the next Jamie Vardy or Rickie Lambert while they are still at a lower league club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 16 December, 2015 Share Posted 16 December, 2015 (edited) .....latest texts seems to suggest that the Andros Townsend rumour was only a media story...wonder how much the bookies made on that one? Tonny Vilhena's name is back. One Dutch story suggested he would have come last year but his mother was very ill and he didn't want to leave the country - that's fair enough. OK ...he may be good.... but what we really need a good old fashioned, common or garden CF. I'm OK with the Austin story..(if he comes, or not), but with Pelle still not 100% and JayRod's return unpredictable, it leaves us with Shane Long as the only fit striker.... Edited 16 December, 2015 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 17 December, 2015 Share Posted 17 December, 2015 With regards to Vilhena they reckon he may get sold by the club in Jan as he is a free in the summer. http://www.voetbalzone.nl/doc.asp?uid=264555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 17 December, 2015 Share Posted 17 December, 2015 With regards to Vilhena they reckon he may get sold by the club in Jan as he is a free in the summer. http://www.voetbalzone.nl/doc.asp?uid=264555 hopefully, not to us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 17 December, 2015 Share Posted 17 December, 2015 hopefully, not to us Why not ? what are his weaknesses - how many times have you watched him? Is he not one Koeman can help? Or are you basing him as another Martina? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 17 December, 2015 Share Posted 17 December, 2015 (edited) double post Edited 17 December, 2015 by Convict Colony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 17 December, 2015 Share Posted 17 December, 2015 If we can get him for under 1mil I'd have him here like a shot he is only 20. Played an awesome season under Koeman, left footed AM who could do Davis role with a lot of growth potential and knows where the goal is. Represented Holland in every age group and also was called into the prelim squad for the full team. "Saints boss Ronald Koeman offered €2.4 million for Vilhena last January, but Feyenoord refused to do business. "I admit that I would have liked to have played for Ronald. I like him," says the midfielder. "But if it cannot happen, what can I do?" http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/feyenoord-midfielder-tonny-vilhena-admits-southampton-transfer-frustration-4108914#sthash.eu0gWslJ.dpuf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 17 December, 2015 Share Posted 17 December, 2015 It really doesn't take much viewing or even listening to dutch league fans to know this is a very average player in a very poor league. Pelle, Tadic, Clasie and Depay stood out a lot, and yet are still inconsistent. It's a very low quality league. He will offer more than our own FEC, Dead Ball Specialist JWP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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