whelk Posted 10 December, 2015 Share Posted 10 December, 2015 I know there can be some angry debate here but does anyone think this bloke has a valid claim? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35058076 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 10 December, 2015 Share Posted 10 December, 2015 Absolutely. What sort of world would we live in if people who hack other human beings heads off (or try to) in broad daylight, can't be entitled to compensation. What sort. Of country would that make us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 10 December, 2015 Share Posted 10 December, 2015 (edited) He should have been shot on the spot, it would have saved all this trouble. Only in America... Edited 10 December, 2015 by Whitey Grandad typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 10 December, 2015 Share Posted 10 December, 2015 I'd like to meet the lawyer that has taken up his case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 10 December, 2015 Share Posted 10 December, 2015 I dont know how you can stop it. I used to work in the NHS where people would sue because the food was bad and in local government where wealthy people would challenge a council decisions to not let them build a McMansion in an area of outstanding natural beauty. Do you really take tens of thousands, sometimes hundreds of thousands of taxpayers money away from frontline services in order to fund a court battle, or do you quietly pay some 'go away' money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 10 December, 2015 Share Posted 10 December, 2015 All I want for Christmas is my two front teeth...... He is entitled to claim. The system is entitled to throw his claim out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 10 December, 2015 Share Posted 10 December, 2015 I dont know how you can stop it. I used to work in the NHS where people would sue because the food was bad and in local government where wealthy people would challenge a council decisions to not let them build a McMansion in an area of outstanding natural beauty. Do you really take tens of thousands, sometimes hundreds of thousands of taxpayers money away from frontline services in order to fund a court battle, or do you quietly pay some 'go away' money? That only encourages more 'vexacious' claims. Stop the legal aid is the correct answer, i.e. throw out the claim the moment it is lodged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 10 December, 2015 Share Posted 10 December, 2015 He is entitled to claim. The system is entitled to throw his claim out. But the problems arise not so much from the ant award made by the court - but the cost of fighting vexatious cases. Claimants who have no money, such as Adebolaje have literally nothing to lose by launching actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 10 December, 2015 Share Posted 10 December, 2015 That only encourages more 'vexacious' claims. Stop the legal aid is the correct answer, i.e. throw out the claim the moment it is lodged. See my post above. Its not legal aid, its no win no fee lawyers http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/aug/18/nhs-sounds-compensation-alarm-after-120000-lawyer-bill-from-5000-claim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horley CTFC Saint Posted 10 December, 2015 Share Posted 10 December, 2015 I know there can be some angry debate here but does anyone think this bloke has a valid claim? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35058076 Given he'd have been beheaded if it had happened in Saudi he's probably a little but lucky he's only lost a couple of teeth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 10 December, 2015 Share Posted 10 December, 2015 Sadly for some time we have been going down the American route whereby nobody is responsible for their actions anymore. It is always someone else fault and there are always people encouraging you to sue. My wife had an accident several years ago and she still gets regular emails trying to tempt her to sue despite the fact that she was not injured in the slightest. Moving past his crime, I guess that you should be able to expect to serve a prison sentence without having your teeth knocked out. Am I right in thinking that there has been an enquiry and it has been found that there is no case to answer? This is the problem we have when living in a civilised society. Despite his crime he is still entitled to his "human rights." On the other hand someone should probably whisper in his ear that he is lucky that he has only lost two teeth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 10 December, 2015 Share Posted 10 December, 2015 The 5 prison officers involved were suspended on full pay for the enquiry, were cleared and are now back at work. That should have been the end of it. Its a pity that "window" didnt take his head completely off or shove its genitals up his arse as he bent over in agony... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 10 December, 2015 Share Posted 10 December, 2015 See my post above. Its not legal aid, its no win no fee lawyers http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/aug/18/nhs-sounds-compensation-alarm-after-120000-lawyer-bill-from-5000-claim They're even worse. They're the sort of people who go round battlefields stripping the bodies and ripping out gold teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 10 December, 2015 Share Posted 10 December, 2015 I suspect he staged a fight with another inmate or officer so he could sue the MoJ for the headlines/attention. Highly sociopathic individual trying to provoke further outrage. Moving past his crime, I guess that you should be able to expect to serve a prison sentence without having your teeth knocked out. Am I right in thinking that there has been an enquiry and it has been found that there is no case to answer? This is the problem we have when living in a civilised society. Despite his crime he is still entitled to his "human rights." On the other hand someone should probably whisper in his ear that he is lucky that he has only lost two teeth! Indeed there was no case to answer but psychopaths like Adebolajo wouldn't give a flying **** about having their 2 front teeth knocked out. From the information available I reckon he deliberately got someone to do it. It's fairly common for Category A prisoners to try and launch vexatious claims as a lot of them are as psychotically manipulative as they are violent. The depravity of the superority complex can be eye-opening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 10 December, 2015 Share Posted 10 December, 2015 So the man who refused to recognise the validity of the UK legal system has now done a U-turn. Whatever his crime, yes he is entitled to make a claim - a claim that can be dismissed in 30 secs on day one if it has no merit. But should he succeed then the amount he's awarded should be placed in an account and given to him on the day of his release.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 10 December, 2015 Share Posted 10 December, 2015 Actually it sounds like the UK prison system is working fine, he obviously favoured Sharia Law previously but now is all for the laws of our land. He's a reformed character already...and think about all the ££££ssss he's now saving the country in toothpaste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted 10 December, 2015 Share Posted 10 December, 2015 Surprised no-win-no-fee lawyers are taking this up. Presumably they think he has a case worth pursuing? Can't see it myself. Unless the publicity for the law firm in this infamous case is worth the effort - all publicity is good publicity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 11 December, 2015 Share Posted 11 December, 2015 I hope the Court, when awarding him damages, will take into account the money he gets from the Tooth Fairy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 11 December, 2015 Share Posted 11 December, 2015 Don't dismiss the claim. Tell him he's won and his money will be coming in the post. Send him 5 pence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 11 December, 2015 Share Posted 11 December, 2015 This country is far too soft. Lee Rigby, a father, a husband and a son was brutally murdered by this low-life piece of diarrhoea. Why are we wasting tax-payers time and money even entertaining this? He should be told to f**k off and shoved back out to 'play' with the other boys. It disgusts me. I bet that Lee Rigby's poor family wouldn't be entitled to the amount of money being thrown at this vermin; not that it'd bring him back, but it'd surely help them out as a family for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 11 December, 2015 Share Posted 11 December, 2015 The Mail says that it's not clear how his case is being funded but does name some solicitors. Legal Aid for this type of case was stopped in 2013 apparently. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3355390/Rigby-family-fury-killer-sues-broken-teeth.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 11 December, 2015 Share Posted 11 December, 2015 If he wins award it to Lee Rigby's family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 11 December, 2015 Share Posted 11 December, 2015 The Mail says that it's not clear how his case is being funded but does name some solicitors. Legal Aid for this type of case was stopped in 2013 apparently. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3355390/Rigby-family-fury-killer-sues-broken-teeth.html I know that they say all publicity is good publicity but if I ran a firm of sols I wouldn't go within a hundred miles of this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 11 December, 2015 Share Posted 11 December, 2015 If he wins award it to Lee Rigby's family.The perfect solution. The killer should be told that will be the outcome and asked whether he wishes to continue with his claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 11 December, 2015 Author Share Posted 11 December, 2015 The perfect solution. The killer should be told that will be the outcome and asked whether he wishes to continue with his claim. Some may say the perfect solution would be to drill through his Achilles' tendon so he might not be too fussed about his front teeth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 11 December, 2015 Share Posted 11 December, 2015 Genuine question, is there anything stopping Rigby's widow from sueing him for damages in a civil Court? Or is it only evil ex-husbands that get pursued to the ends of the earth for every penny they have for family maintenance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 11 December, 2015 Share Posted 11 December, 2015 Genuine question, is there anything stopping Rigby's widow from sueing him for damages in a civil Court? Or is it only evil ex-husbands that get pursued to the ends of the earth for every penny they have for family maintenance. I don't think there's anything to stop them, except that I doubt that he's got anything to give them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 11 December, 2015 Share Posted 11 December, 2015 But she could get a garnishee over any damages award he might get from his case then? And one of those twitter campaign things aimed at his lawyers demanding that they donate their fees to his family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 12 December, 2015 Share Posted 12 December, 2015 I bet that Lee Rigby's poor family wouldn't be entitled to the amount of money being thrown at this vermin; not that it'd bring him back, but it'd surely help them out as a family for the future. If you are convicted of murder would it not be a good idea for the murders entire wealth be given to the family of victim and maybe also money earned whilst serving a sentence, be that from suing the state or any other ways of accumulating wealth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 14 December, 2015 Share Posted 14 December, 2015 Genuine question, is there anything stopping Rigby's widow from sueing him for damages in a civil Court? Or is it only evil ex-husbands that get pursued to the ends of the earth for every penny they have for family maintenance. Having just received a letter from the CSA (and it wasn't a Christmas card) I have a lot of sympathy for this post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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