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well, something needs to change a little.

need to be a great deal quicker on the ball etc

 

My team

 

-----------------Stek

 

Cedric-----Fonte----VvD---Bertand

 

---------------Romeu

 

-------Davis------------Clasie

 

Mane--------Long--------Juanmi

 

 

Davis, Yoshida, Tadic, JWP, Vic, Pelle, Gaston

 

That front 3 would be FAR more mobile, fluid than what we have had for a while and ay actually cause something to happen outside of the first 15 mins....either way, something has to change

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Managed to get tickets for this, the membership finally paid off! Selhurst Park was also my first ever away game (Dowie brace in a 2-1 win, Salako missed penalty... 1992 I think).

 

When I bought the tickets I was optimistic for 3 points, not so now...

 

I thought our best team was obvious until recently, now I'm not sure who our two best defensive midfielders are, individually or as a combination. While I don't disagree that Mane is more effective more centrally, it's easy to say "push him up next to Pelle" without suggesting how to plug the gaps elsewhere. First of all, who takes his place on the right? Secondly, how do we cover the extra ground in midfield when our midfield already look to be sorely lacking mobility?

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well, something needs to change a little.

need to be a great deal quicker on the ball etc

 

My team

 

-----------------Stek

 

Cedric-----Fonte----VvD---Bertand

 

---------------Romeu

 

-------Davis------------Clasie

 

Mane--------Long--------Juanmi

 

 

Davis, Yoshida, Tadic, JWP, Vic, Pelle, Gaston

 

That front 3 would be FAR more mobile, fluid than what we have had for a while and ay actually cause something to happen outside of the first 15 mins....either way, something has to change

I'd go with that starting 11 too. Juanmi impressed today and we need to mix things up a little

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It's an away game - Cedric won't be playing. Start getting worried about Bolasie on Yoshida.

 

Maybe we should play Cedric in front of Yoshida . Go for a very defensive 4-5-1 . Doubling up on both their wingers with either Ryan B in front of Martina or somebody disiplined to play in front of RB . Although not his greatest fan JWP is quite tactically aware and maybe could do that . Then play Big Vic and RO to stop Cabaye , with Davis playing slightly forward of those 2 and Mane up top alone to hit them on the break . Would be boring as hell , but 0-0 would do for me . Palace are better when they can break quickly , if we sit 2 banks of 4 and a worker like Davis in the 10 role , they'll struggle to break us down .

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One thing...Long isn't the answer to anything.

 

The way things have been lately, he'd be the first name on the team sheet for me. Offers pace, work rate, tenacity, and one of our best finishers. He lifts the players around him by chasing down lost causes. Our lot need all the lifts they can get. Was madness to a) not start him against Villa and b) leave it until the 80th minute to bring him on.

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The way things have been lately, he'd be the first name on the team sheet for me. Offers pace, work rate, tenacity, and one of our best finishers. He lifts the players around him by chasing down lost causes. Our lot need all the lifts they can get. Was madness to a) not start him against Villa and b) leave it until the 80th minute to bring him on.

 

Who would you leave out of the starting lineup then ?

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-----------------Stek

 

Cedric-----Fonte----VvD---Bertand

 

----------Wanyama-------Clasie

 

Davis--------Mane--------Tadic

 

------------Pelle

 

Juanmi as an attacking option in the 2nd half if we are chasing things or Romeu if we are defending.

 

Full backs will need to be very tight to Zaha and Bolasie who against Newcastle proved if you don't contain them they will wreck havoc on the flanks.

 

2-2 entertaining game. (Mane & Cedric)

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I'd go 3-5-2 for this like we did boxing day.

 

--------------Stek---------------

---Fonte-----VVD-----Yoshida---

Cedric---Vic----Romeu---Bertrand

-------------Tadic---------------

--------Pelle-----Mane---------

 

Mane, Pelle and Tadic will all benefit from playing close to each other and centrally IMO, width coming from the full backs. Victor and Romeu to keep it tight

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I'd go 3-5-2 for this like we did boxing day.

 

--------------Stek---------------

---Fonte-----VVD-----Yoshida---

Cedric---Vic----Romeu---Bertrand

-------------Tadic---------------

--------Pelle-----Mane---------

 

Mane, Pelle and Tadic will all benefit from playing close to each other and centrally IMO, width coming from the full backs. Victor and Romeu to keep it tight

 

This could work as it will pen their wingers back, where they are less effective and even a weakness, but if they do break we still have cover at CB. I think Watford did this well earlier in the season. The question mark is Tadic - he has the attributes to appear a great number 10 but he is more comfortable and does his best work wide. I'd play Davis, but probably instead of Wanyama.

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I'd go 3-5-2 for this like we did boxing day.

 

--------------Stek---------------

---Fonte-----VVD-----Yoshida---

Cedric---Vic----Romeu---Bertrand

-------------Tadic---------------

--------Pelle-----Mane---------

 

Mane, Pelle and Tadic will all benefit from playing close to each other and centrally IMO, width coming from the full backs. Victor and Romeu to keep it tight

You'd leave out Davis. Madness.

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It's an away game - Cedric won't be playing. Start getting worried about Bolasie on Yoshida.

 

Bolasie's main threat is pace, and Cedric is quicker than Yoshi, so I would stick with Cedric but limit his forward forays, and have Long on the right and Mane on left or center - Long provides more defensive cover I think.

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I'd go 3-5-2 for this like we did boxing day.

 

--------------Stek---------------

---Fonte-----VVD-----Yoshida---

Cedric---Vic----Romeu---Bertrand

-------------Tadic---------------

--------Pelle-----Mane---------

 

Mane, Pelle and Tadic will all benefit from playing close to each other and centrally IMO, width coming from the full backs. Victor and Romeu to keep it tight

 

I like 3 at the back particularly with VvD able to bring the ball out and the full backs we have . Just not sure it's the right thing against Palace especially if Tadic plays . I haven't a clue how palace play , but with only 4 in midfield surely they'll be able to overload on Vic & RO and pull Cedric & Ryan in a touch . If their wingers get a run at Yoshida & Fonte as our wide centre halves , god help us . If Davis or even Classie play in a central 3 then it maybe better .

 

Personally I'd go for a 4-5-1 doubling up on their wingers , but leaving a 3 in centre midfield . The only problem is you'll have to drop Pelle and play someone with a bit more movement as the lone striker . Long , or maybe Mane .

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Who would you leave out of the starting lineup then ?

 

Honestly, Pelle.

 

Two reasons. Firstly, and primarily, when we are on song, and Pelle is on song, he's one of the top strikers in the league, but when we are not playing well, when have you seen Pelle grab the game by the scruff of the neck and turn the tide? If we are playing poorly, you can bet Pelle is too. He goes missing when things aren't going our way.

 

Secondly, his record shows he's far more effective at home than away from home.

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For me, it would be;

 

Stek

Cedric Fonte VVD Bertrand

Romeu Wanyama

Davis Mane Tadic

Long

 

Mane at 10. Davis wide right offering more defensive cover for Cedric against Bolasie. If only keep Wanyama in because two changes in there would be too radical; he doesn't deserve his spot to be honest.

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this will be a straight forward win for palace, we are now a very ordinary side

 

Strangely though, Palace are also a very ordinary side (albeit with two tricky wingers who don't always play out wide). I think it'll be 1-1 tbh.

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